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Psychology: Dislike for Long Term PvP Goals?

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They never listened to anything…infact i’m not really surprised for the actual sotg, this is gonna be the last blow to make the few old and loyal pvp players quit. Go on, bring more casuals in and give them free ranks, so they’ll get their dragon in no time and leave pvp forever while the ones who worked for it since first day are just going to quit because you pretty much threw more than one year of constant efforts straight into the trash, you’ll lose your actual high tier players and the new ones will leave in a couple of months too after getting their meaningless emote. Smart move indeed, you’re gonna have usual 3 teams vs each other forever in esl and noone else around except for a bunch of dummy-dragon-ranks-wannabe casuals getting their cookie in a couple of months and leaving. Is gonna be serious fun watching the rusty boat sinking from outside pow after quitting, probably more fun than actual pvp.

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Psychology: Dislike for Long Term PvP Goals?

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Long term goals aren’t a bad thing. Even after the re-balance, it will take the average player a very long time to reach 80 and will still be the long term goal for most people.

It’s important to have goals for different time commitments. Short term goal could be reward tracks or some skins. Medium term goals could be season rewards and a ladder. Long terms goals could be a legendary, rank 80 (for most people) or possibly multi-season rewards and yearly tournaments.

What kind of long-term rewards would people like to see? Maybe a rank 80 ‘prestige’ system is something to explore.

Very long time? With 1.5k/win? Are you kidding me? …some of us managed to get 65+ and even r70 (68 almost 69 in my case, and i pretty much left pvp after your rank reworking system went off on ready up…like many others high ranked old players) with way less rewards in 1 year and half (Not considering those who finished their last ranks on sh), it will take WAY less than 6 months to go from 1 to 80 with decent (Not esl level, just decent..) tpvp playing with this crap, seriously i could take this second account that is currently r10 or something and go straight to 80 in some months after this patch…again, are you serious? Compared to gw1 ranks this is a dam joke, this is not a long time goal…a long time goal should take YEARS to get it, in gw1 took me YEARS to get phoenix..let alone dragon that i never got (And never wanted since it was intended for more dedicated players than me), and i was totally fine with that since i’m not a kid “Buuuuh he’s higher rank than me, i want that too but i don’t want to work for it!! Plz nerf!” Or do you actually fear your game is going to be dead already in 2015?

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Suggestion with rankings and titles

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nice one finally

Remove Settler's Amulet from PvP

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engineers will die no matter the amulet if they face a condition spec.

Yeah sure… ever heard about http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Automated_Response?

I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes

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AGAIN since noone still answered my question:

Just put legendaries for 100 gems and cap max gold (Or achievement points) to 2k deleting everything above that cap (Many probably farmed gold too just like sh so where’s the point of having gold if someone farmed for it anyway…right?)…see if all those pve scrubs high rank-cheap cool emotes wannabes who’re saying “This is for game’s health, don’t care about those few getting chated” and stuff would agree with this too…cheap ranks for everyone and cheap legendaries too and most of your gold deleted cause who cares bout your time spent on it…sounds good to me

You know even new pve players are scared about high prices, everyone with tons of legendaries and so on…this would bring more players for sure making them confortable (Even if it WASN’T so confortable before, but who cares? This would be for game’s health…so enjoy the sacrifice)

Would you like it or countless pve heroes would istant-quit?

So? ANYONE? Come on don’t be shy…it’s an easy question for all you “free high rank wannabes”, you write so much on this forum with no clue…just answer this..

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I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes

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I’m a bit disturbed at how full of yourself you are , Ostrich Eggs….

And considering he’s one of the best gw2 pvp players in the world well…he can…

I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes

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Rank was farmed in custom arenas, making it pointless.

Yes, thanks to a few guys doing something to get it much easier than you, yours is worthless.

So be happy they at least listened to us and kept it in any form at all.

It’ll be nice if there was bonus chests per day or level over time, but I would not expect much. Remember you could have gotten all those skins unlocks and dyes new players won’t be getting.

Without statistics, you can’t say that “rank was farmed” to any significant level. I’m willing to bet that no skyhammer farmer is r70 right now. Not one.

They probably went back to wvsw with their bear stomp and never went pvp again..most likely..and they’re gonna be dragons now, gg

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Just put legendaries for 100 gems or cap max gold to 2k deleting everything above that cap (Many probably farmed gold too just like sh so where’s the point of having gold if someone farmed for it anyway…right?)…see if all those pve scrubs high rank-cheap cool emotes wannabes who’re saying “This is for game’s health, don’t care about those few getting chated” and stuff would agree with this too…cheap ranks for everyone and cheap legendaries too…sounds good to me

You know even new pve players are scared about high prices, everyone with tons of legendaries and so on…this would bring more players for sure making them confortable (Even if it WASN’T so confortable before, but who cares? This would be for game’s health…so enjoy the sacrifice)

Would you like it? Answer me or gtfo

+1. We’ll only kitten off a minority of players and that’s good for the game. Besides, those with lots of gold probably just farmed it.

And even exploited dungeons maybe, who knows… If anet can ask high rank pvp players to sacrifice for game’s sake let’s sacrifice all together then, supporting something that is not gonna hurt you is too easy…would really like them supporting anet’s crap in this case lol

Anyway 1 day left to 1st account unban..

I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes

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Just put legendaries for 100 gems or cap max gold to 2k deleting everything above that cap (Many probably farmed gold too just like sh so where’s the point of having gold if someone farmed for it anyway…right?)…see if all those pve scrubs high rank-cheap cool emotes wannabes who’re saying “This is for game’s health, don’t care about those few getting chated” and stuff would agree with this too…cheap ranks for everyone and cheap legendaries too…sounds good to me

You know even new pve players are scared about high prices, everyone with tons of legendaries and so on…this would bring more players for sure making them confortable (Even if it WASN’T so confortable before, but who cares? This would be for game’s health…so enjoy the sacrifice)

Would you like it or countless pve heroes would istant-quit this crap game? Answer me or gtfo

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What is the main objective of playing sPvP ?

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The point of pvp? Since tpvp ladder and matchmaking is broken and soloq is even worse i guess it’s rank progression…oh wait…

It’s funny how before the announcement, no one cared about your rank. Suddenly when casual like myself get dragon it becomes an issue.

I’ll keep stating this so it can be drilled into your heads

If I played the game knowing I would never reach rank 80 in the lifetime of gw2 simply because I can’t play more than 2 hours a day… how is it any different for me when I reach rank 80, I will still play PvP even though I am capped out.

High ranked players always had care of their rank, let alone 90% stupid sh farmers who just stopped at r50 for bear (Since 60 was still pretty unreachable even with farming alone) so more rewards for them too …they are simply going to get cheated while everyone with half their time spent in pvp are going to get their same rewards. It like getting a legendary in pve and right after you got it anet puts it in the gem shop for 100 gems aviable for everyone just because random scrubs don’t want to spend time to get it the legit way, wouldn’t you be a bit kittened? (Considering r60+ takes an immense amount of time more than crafting a crap legendary in pve) I just hope them to do the same in pve with something you worked really hard for it…so you’ll get how it feels eventually. Or just dunno…cap max gold to 2k and everything you have over those 2k just goes into trash. Would you like it? You know capping max gold would bring more casuals to pve cause prices are so high for new players right now, it would be a good sacrifice, you should think about game’s health not your gold you worked for…right? I would like too see all those turds defending this crap in this situation…

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What is the main objective of playing sPvP ?

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The point of pvp? Since tpvp ladder and matchmaking are broken and soloq is even worse i guess it’s rank progression…oh wait…

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I'm a bit disturbed over the rank changes

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But:

1. You’re obviously a skyhammer farmer since there’s no other way you would have gotten so high.

2. You already got your rank chests as you ranked up to 70! All that loot…

/s

Um b4 accusing you might want too check our matches played. on solo q and team q.

/s stands for “sarcasm”. It’s tragic that the situation is so toxic that we can’t even recognize when someone is joking.

Probably this guy is the only one who didn’t get it xD

When to leave close?

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simple, if your team is decent they should win even temfights, you just need to leave when they are outnumbered, usually the most risky time to leave close is when you dunno where their thief is, a good thief will always decap your point as soon as you leave it for more than 20 secs. That’s why back when pvp still had a minimum sense mesmer with portal was best choice for close, you could basically cover 2 points being able to move 2-3 player there istantly if needed…but braindead wars, decap engis and whatever pushed mesmers outside…you just see random wars/rangers afking there 24/7 now

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dragon finisher should be rank 65 or 70..

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Rank =/= skill , personally i was aiming for the shark finisher since the beta , but after the crappy meta and skyhammer i lost all the interest in ranks , since the finisher’s from the gemstore are cooler then some rank’s i don’t rly care .The ppl who are r60+ have lod’s of skin’s unlocked and with the new patch u will have them unlocked also for pve .To me that’s a good enuff as a reward .

Noone who’s rank 60+ gives a single kitten to pve…even less to pve skins

Recognition of hardcore, difficult PVPers

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Isn’t it sad that so many players like the ones above are going to be robbed of their hard work. Some people just don’t have a heart…

i think play-reward expectations have been twisted a long way now that we talk about “hard work” and “robbing”. even if competitive and “serious”, still, this is a video game, not an employment or social security.

Since ppl paid for the game and spent time on it yes that is a plain robbery…time can be considered money, let’s suppose 1500 hours (Total 3k hours for 2 millions rank points, so 1.2kk over 800k for nothing 55+% of total time..but let’s guess 1500 hours) completely lost at 6-7euros/h (Very low salary) do the math…don’t trust anet and get a part time job instead next time, they’re going to throw you efforts in the trash anyway

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rank 80 and beyond

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This should work, well dragon for 55+ (Considering most sh farmers stopped at r50 starting from r10 or so…and i know many of them out there, while i was 56 before skyhammer and they were like 20+ and after skyhammer period i was 60 and they were 55+ asking me why i didn’t farm sh 24/7 like a mad kitten rofl) would still be an insult but at least we won’t lose our MILLIONS rank points just because we’re scaring the kitten out of casuals (Dat guy is so high rank, i want high rank tooo but i don’t want to spend 1 year and half in pvp….buuuh anet plz nerf!) even with no finishers it would be a decent solution, not a good solution (Good one would be shifting dragon to 70) but something at least, but there would still be the problem of casual pve heroes free high rank wannabes i guess “I don’t want to go pvp much but i still want same stuff ppl with 3k hours in pvp have” sounds legit right? fo

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demonstrate skill through titles

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Make it retroactive and it’s fine

Dragon Finisher for rank 54+

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lulz, there are 4-5 threads about wasted time in skyhammer…
i like the fact, anet is going to give dragon rank to r55 ppl because r70 is cheated anyway, you don’t need to reward those people beeing dragon rank only…

Translation: I didn’t reach r70, therefore everyone who reached r70 cheated. GG.

A good amount did, I dont see that many top spvp players with that rank tbh…

Real old top players already left the game time ago, the ones who kept playing are all way over 60 like phd just to give an example…and someone already over 70 like ostich

Dragon Finisher for rank 54+

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lulz, there are 4-5 threads about wasted time in skyhammer…
i like the fact, anet is going to give dragon rank to r55 ppl because r70 is cheated anyway, you don’t need to reward those people beeing dragon rank only…

Actually r50 bear finisher was the real goal for most sh farmers, just saying…but you obviously don’t have a clue on what are you talking about so..yeah..

A Plea from the Heart

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skyhammer farmers not being delat with coming back to bite us in the butt.

Skyhammer farming it’s just an excuse for those who couldn’t reach higher ranks in time, most of r70s now were way above 55+ and even 60 BEFORE skyhammer (If you want there are videos from 1st italian tpvp tournament long before skyhammer and i was 52-53 already), i’m actually r68 without farming, just around 3k+ HOURS IN PVP since first day of gw2 with more than 4k tournaments (2k pre ladder and 2k after) and around 10k overall matches…the majority of sh farmers were unranked pve heroes who farmed their cool finisher to show off in wvsw or some other pve crap. And you know what? Someone being rewarded with dragon at r55 is gonna be even worse than those idiots who farmed all day at skyhammer cause at least they put time in it. Oh and just for you to know 90% of skyhammer farmers stopped at bear so rewarding 55+s is gonna reward farmers even more as i already whispered to grouch. I’d like to see all those pve guys if one day anet states legendaries are too hard to get for poor little new players giving everyone free legend weapons while you actually worked for it (And keep in mind that getting a legend in pve is a joke compared to r60+ in pvp) Anyway i’m waiting for my first account to get out from ban in 2 days (Anet feedback censorship ofc) and then i’ll come back to forums with a question for all of you, for the whole gw2 pvp players. Wait for it

Ark

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Dragon finisher should be for Rank 70's only

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For those who know me i’m Ark with second account cause my first one got banned (Yeah saying bad things bout op wars…) i’d just like to say that with this “dragon to everyone” crap i’m probably quitting cause going for phoenix (Like i had in gw1) was my first goal in pvp (Going for it the legit way and not farming hj/sh like a mad kitten, i was also asking for sh farmers rollback eventually loosing my 2 ranks i did there from 58 to 60 cause i couldn’t wait for my shark, not a big deal anyway)…now i’m halfway to 69…and every 55+ is getting dragons (I never aimed to dragon cause like in gw1, for me, was too far away…and i was totally fine with that, ppl with more time and dedication than me would get it and gg to them, like star, oh my, chamalee and so on in gw1) everyone is going to skip something that, for me, was an endgame goal since the first day i knew there was a phoenix emote up there…and at that time seemed so far away, almost unreachable….i’m one rank and half from it now…and you’re giving it to every single 55+ (Including sh farming scrubs)…gg anet…gg,
gtfo, i kept playing your worthless crap, i kept playing your kitten metas, i kept playing while every single decent player was leaving, i kept playing after we all saw our qpnts thrown into trash, i kept playing after you removed paids, i kept fighting op bunker eles and bm rangers at close with my mesmer, i kept playing without a stable team, going pug in tpvp, losing, getting trolled by nonsense decappers on skyhammer, getting owned by braindead wars while on mesmer and forced to roll war if i wanted to go somewhere…all of this for that emote, for getting something i worked hard in gw1…totally worth it despite crap rewards, nonsense ladders and kitten fotm metas.
So thank you anet, i trusted you after all….here’s your reward for me.

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