Guild Wars 2

Vewen.8016:

Please bring back Desolation, at least they were good competitors.

They weren’t, they were just a different type of kitten opponent.

Dont mistake unwillingness to lower ourselves to your level as inability

Moon.6371:

Just yesterday I was visiting SFR forum and accidentially stumbled upon your recruitment thread – how many times did you use the word “hardcore” to describe your guilds agenda? Was it five or six times? I had a good laugh…

It was 3 times, I just counted all it means is the Belgium guy who wrote it needs a few more adjectives.

Moon.6371:

Please don`t feel offended, Sevenn, actually I really like how you try to explain your view of the situation.

However, to me personally all the beautiful stuff that makes small scale (and gw2) appealing to me gets lost in groups of more then…say… 10 mans.

No clutch moves possible rolling with such numbers (25 man), no focus target, no heal or channeling interrupts, no split second decision making to gain slight advantages infight, no real individual impact on the outcome of the fight, no real flow of information infight (25 people giving information about their skillusage etc. would end in utter chaos) – it is all aoe fest and feels more like PvE raiding in other games than actual PvP.

Watching top level GvG`s of zerging guilds just confirms that to me, never ever focus target, mark the leader; walk, where he walks and spam ae dps and ae cc. I just cannot pull any enjoyment out of it and I guess many small scalers feel the same way. Why would I give up on what I love most in this game and do something that is just not fun for me?

Best regards

There can be no argument that individual skill has a greater impact as squad sizes decreases but I dont think that it has decreased to such a degree that the fight is unfulfilling.

There certainly is a high flow of information. Through using different channels in comms with different broadcast settings and whisper lists skill usage and cool downs are called without polluting the comms.

Twitch play is less important and there is more room for individual error to not have a negative outcome overall.

You say you have seen gvgs and they look like simple follow the leader trains. I would imagine your impression would change if you were on their comms, there is a reason why certain guilds are considered top gvg guilds and skill must be the reason.

I’m not sure on composition for other guilds on SFR but option seems to run with up to 8 guardian in a 25 man squad.

For sure steam rolling isn’t fun but I think 25 ish people should be the amount a wvw guild is looking to field. Individual skill is still important with that amount whilst being enough to beat the larger but less organised groups.

Its a tough place for the 10-15 man squads, I usually see smaller groups of 5 or the full 25+ groups. So you opportunity for skilled equal number encounters is much lower than other size groups, maybe even less opportunity than the solo roamer.

Ultimately I think these 10-15 man groups should look to recruit/merge and come fight the 25+ guilds

Thyophelis.8035:

Sevenn.3085:

Thyophelis.8035:

I have to admit that something really great is forming on sfr. all this big dedicated wvw guilds coming to one server. I just wonder, won t you miss the GvG ?

This is a genuine concern. My first words to KoA on community site were “why u transfer 3 days before our gvg was due”
We have had discussions about changing tier to provide more choice when it comes to gvg cause 1 every 2 weeks isn’t fulfilling.
Guilds move for a variety of reasons however but I am with you in the thought that I would prefer to be on the opposite server to the strongest guilds in order to have challenging gvg’s

I m sorry, I didn t say strongest… 18 guards spamming 1 and 7,8,9 isn t much about skill but the easyest with the current Meta. I ve played 3 weeks against sfr guild grps and their movement is good but skillwise…I haven t been pulled once by a greatsword skill and maybe ran into 2 hammer bubbles. I ve got no stability the whole fight.
bashing random zergs might look good on video, but as long as you re not looking for a challenge you ll not improve as players.
but props to you, your paintrains certainly got discipline and some good commanders.
I ve had plenty of 1vs 1 against Con, Iddq, Rise, ECL, OSC Thiefs, Mesmers, ele s and engi s. They are certainly better then a normal random. But 8/10 of the fights end up with me smiling.

We were talking gvg, 18 guards spamming 1 isn’t a gvg meta.

And you seem to have infered that I was saying SFR has the strongest guilds, you misread. I spoke of a desire to fight the strongest, that would require changing tier.

Now you move onto 1v1 discussion, fail to see what that has to do with anything but I am happy to come lower that 8/10 ratio for you.

Keep on smiling

Deniara Devious.3948:

Repuran.1859:

Deso is best in PvP rankings because of TP and I’ve seen 4 of them in the last week on SFR Borderlands. They really do pack a punch and have killed me numerous times, would be really great if more Paragon members came to WvW for Desolation. I do think you’d target SFR more than Kodash if you had the numbers though :P.

Team Paradigm is no doubt very good, but we got several other good pvp oriented guilds.

Speaking of individual skills: my kudos to that SFR mesmer who was defending Redwater supply camp against me and a thief (I think that thief player from our side was very good). You held up nice in 2 vs 1 (but got of course some help from those NPCs). We finally decided to disengage based on my command. Very nicely fought.

My hats are also off to that SFR bronze invader who has the guts to play solo roaming as a warrior. I have seen you several times but killed only once, since you always run away. I usually play an engineer in WvWvW and I know warrior vs engi is not fair 1-vs-1 (despite my build is not made for 1-vs-1).

How about organizing a meeting of solo roamers from all 3 servers? I mean on a friendly basis. No rude actions, no hate talk, we can even join party and chat.

I could organize that on Deso BL and communicate with the other commanders so that we won’t be interfered. The North beach side of the ruins North of Hero’s Lodge or behind the mill South of Hero’s Lodge would be a good meeting place or that are near Tamili tribe North of the Foghaven supply camp. If you want to have duels it would be good to have at least 1 alive player from each server, so we can revive the downed ones.

Please no flaming, I know there is a game mode called tpvp, but I am talking about a once in a life time opportunity to meet lots of solo WvWvW roamers from all 3 servers and have a friendly meeting.

Somewhere that is friendly to clone pathing please

Thyophelis.8035:

I have to admit that something really great is forming on sfr. all this big dedicated wvw guilds coming to one server. I just wonder, won t you miss the GvG ?

This is a genuine concern. My first words to KoA on community site were “why u transfer 3 days before our gvg was due”
We have had discussions about changing tier to provide more choice when it comes to gvg cause 1 every 2 weeks isn’t fulfilling.
Guilds move for a variety of reasons however but I am with you in the thought that I would prefer to be on the opposite server to the strongest guilds in order to have challenging gvg’s

MagnusLL.8473:

Sevenn.3085:

If u want more balanced fights then you want to bDeso have ghting the no tag guild raids. Best place to find them is outside of EB.

Unfortunately that’s not true anymore for Deso, we simply don’t have guilds able to routinely field 30-40 players at the same time so even going in borderlands would still result in being outnumbered.

I don’t know many guilds that routinely field 30+
Certainly for us in Option 20-30 is standard.

I am sure Deso can field 20+, if not then guilds need to run together, it’s rly not that hard.

QQ is easier than organisation though.

So much QQ about actions in EB. Try going elsewhere.

EB is pug heaven with pug commanders like wemil that are happy to blob. That’s good cause if keeps them and their pug army away from other BL’s.

If u want more balanced fights then you want to be fighting the no tag guild raids. Best place to find them is outside of EB.

If, however, you are just a pug that is complaining about getting ‘out pugged’ then it’s tough kitten, join a better guild.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

Axle.5182:

SFR send ZD’s, CON, ECL 3 of their best and largest guild raids all to Deso bl to farm pugs GG lol

Honestly we spread on all maps and initial plan was them to be on sfr I think but once we jumped the maps we got transfered randomly after the restart joinn kodash bl moved my raid to SFR bl . But yeah strange reset nice fun and random js ect before the restart didnt stay after the second restart:D but on sfr we had 4 commanders on 1 point and Deso and Kodash only faceless blobs gg and you blame us blobing we had 4 different independent groups of 20-30

:D too many

English plx

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scorpion.8210:

GoD is Realy love to farming Both servers. Pls dont stop blobing and keep fighting with us we like to wipe u 20 times every night both servers.
Btw we running in blobs of 20-30(+5-10 pugs) in guild and u need at least 3 guilds to wipe us(30 ppls each) 15 ac some balistas and few check points, and then u calling yourselfs good guilds Big LoL.
GoD power
GoD fighets
We love all of sfr/kodash Guilds, keep the good work guys!!!

Poor troll.

Lets get a gvg organised.

Couple of nice engages with CLAW so far, nice to see guild running as guild.
Hopefully GoD learn to do the same.

Couple of nice engages with CLAW so far, nice to see guild running as guild. Option would like gvg with u guys.
Hopefully GoD learn to do the same.

Wothan.4673:

Imacop.6409:

Nice to see Js blob leave T2, have fun with Vizuna. Welcome to Desolation. Ihope for some good guilds fights this week.

Kodash and particularly Sfr are not really the best placed for taunt JS about blob.
Anyway it’s always more easy to see enemy blob rather than its own.

Whilst both SFR and jade may end up in a blob, the difference lies in that it is the default play style for jade whilst being a reluctant play style adopted by SFR.
Its ok though, we don’t begrudge your training for T1. Enjoy it and close the door on your way out.

yes 5 crash for me in jade sea bl, and same for others in guild.

vanensang.1389:

We got a wiedly accepted eventcalendar where commanders announce their public raids.

So as with most things it an issue of ego…. “Im not giving up my BL spaces without it being on planner” “lets kitten those KoA guys gvg cause they havent completed the required administration”

pretty sad response in a match up where the point game is already irrelevant.

when talking about the arrow cart changes ANET said no more nerf to AC until they can implement a 1 time refund of traits to go with it.

So you will get one reset ….soon

do we rly need a new thread…..

We will be gvging tonight.

I don’t care if you are in a queue. Please report us for gvging lol.

Keep up with the quality posts though.

Poor quality stream doesn’t really show anything worth watching.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Dayra.7405:

Hi Deso’s, what’s your expectation/wishes for next week?
For example:
[ ] Leave T1 as fast as posssible?
[ ] Play a normal match?
[ ] Revenge on Viz?
[ ] Show the newcomer that you are still stronger?
[ ] ….

Thanks for info (and if it has no other sense, every answer helps to fill the 100 pages)

I think all we can do is play as normally as possible cause I doubt we’ll drop with the current Glicko system but right now the community is rebuilding and reorganizing, we have many new players and few guilds to actually ‘compete’ that I think we over compensate by blobbing on EB at least for the moment. Now we have a new opponent who will try to compete it’s gonna be a nice change.

Maybe the upcoming glicko changes will help you.

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Angelyne.2936:

We are all aware that the zerg fashion rised up to reach a point of stupidity and nobraining never seen in a PvP game from ALL side.

We are actually discussing, on french forum, about how it is possible to manage forces and make a “common and admited” rule for all servers in or who will access to T1EU that should be something like :

CBE as a free bus fight map were ppl that like big fight should play freely and BL as more smaller scaled map for guild groups, GvG and duels.

I’m not sure that everybody will follow that idea, but i hope that will be possible. So everybody will join whatever kind of game he like and everybody will be very happy.

lol, literally lol.

Now u want to do something??? Why has is taken so long to see the light….

This had been the exact format on SFR for a long long time (pre mass exodus), pugs to EB, guilds to BL, and as you say “everyone happy”.

KonstantinDK.1704:

Is it a secret to ask how do you keep your pugs so organized and motivated, and I assume in TS, too – VZ? Does a common language help a lot?

No its that they share a mutual lack of ambition which enables them to rally and chest beat over the most hollow of “victories”.

SFR has had green 8 times, most recently 4 weeks ago. Seems like its your own fault.

Dyno.9467:

Masori.3528:

Argument.1265:

SFR borderlands. Few deso guys were able to get inside Sunnyhill tower to destroy our def sieges, while their blob was hitting the gate. Kinda unsportsmanlike behavior.

This was one guy – and an ele – he didn’t kill any siege though.

We told him to jump out.

Obviously they’re gonna try and blame someone else for their cheating, its always somebody else’s fault, never SFR.

Fixed it for you!

JP should be removed from wvw population count and accessible from lions arch.

JP should be open pvp zone that allows you to queue for wvw from inside.

IRON pls push more at Arahs, 5 waves of bags on legs and counting.

no one cares about ur JP QQ

T2, T4, T6, and T8 are all even tiers.

Hope this helps

Is it so hard just to change server……………

DanH.5879:

Hi all. I want to complain that the portal allows too many to pass trough.
Out of nowhere we get rolled by 20+ ppl. AND on top of it the mass quickness without penalty to all is even more OP

all aoe (including portal and mass quickness should effect maximum 5 people ! not 9999 !!!) the stealth curtain is the same story… as other skills
and shadow refuge is only for 5 !

where is the balance in this game ?

and the range should be less than 9000km between the portals !!!!

lol at the thief QQ

You wrote the below in the thief forums recently:

“the only thing i care about is PvE, when this will be taken from me, i will move on to the next game. Grinding Wars 2 (roll a 2nd class) is just not my thing …”

So, why do you give a kitten about portals?