Good move. I have no hope since they haven’t done anything for more than a year. And the elite spec is a joke. I am glad I got my refund.
Thief class should be immune to reveal.
Wonder why tempest community was disappointed
Yay!!!! I got my money back. I will wait for them to fix the class and I will pay for hot. No more free money for these guys.
Those who paid for HOT and not happy with the thief class and looking for refund, log a ticket and you will get your money back.
I am not talking about DD. I am talking about normal thief class. It was getting bad a year ago and I quit the game. Now it’s worst.
So dev’s – " keep up the good work"
Thanks for your input! I’ll send this information to a few of the developers personally so I can make sure it gets the proper review it deserves. I’d say if they use your constructive feedback as a guideline for fixing thief, we’d see thief emerge from the darkness and find themselves in a great spot!
Keep up the good work!
Wow !!! Really???
How about we stop giving anymore constructive feedbacks? We are done giving constructive feedbacks. Let them read all the constructive feedbacks we have been giving for past years.
I have not seen any results yet. How much more time do they need to fix the class?
Thief should be the only class with stealth.
It’s a scam lol. I logged a ticket for hot refund.
To all thieves that still have to buy HoT. DON’T BUY IT
To the others, let’s ask all for a refund.
Let’s see if Devs understand our frustation.
I feel like I have blindly paid for something only for discovering later I had just paid for my Death.
I am seriously quitting this game. I am going to log a ticket for refund.
Thief description is a lie.
Devs, are you not seeing what’s happening here?
How many more threads and complaints do you guys need to fix this class?
This is ridiculous, we seriously need a new dev. We need someone who actually understand our issues and communicate promptly with the thief community.
Every day I see a new thread about thief.
No, we need the old trait back. Fight for it
I am not sure if our dev is actually reading all our threads.
They have to fix our class. Please take sometime to read our issues and fix it.
I have to get out of thief class before I go ballistic.
Give us ricochet and opportunist back and I will be back in action.
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Yes, roll a Mesmer.
They did not give us any information about this change. We had to fight three months and a couple of infractions to know why this was removed? Really?
I really don’t understand why we have to fight to get an answer.
Welcome to the club. I took a break for a year due to all the nerfs we had to take. The current state of thief is worst than before. I am very disappointed and frustrated. I paid for HOT thinking thief is going to be great but I feel like I got scammed.
When was this trait removed? I quit the game a year ago because of all the nerfs thief had. I would like read the game update for this change.
I am jealous now lol. I think they did a good job on this elite class.
And when we ask them if they are going to fix it you get infractions.
Karl made his point, there is no point arguing about it. They are not going to bring back ricochet.
I enjoyed playing p/p with ricochet, I am not sure if I should re-roll or deal with it lol.
I was very happy with thief class until they nerfed critical damage, opportunist,ricochet etc..
Just to reiterate, could you clarify the cooldown of well of eternity? In BWE2, it was 20 seconds. Is it being moved to 25 or to 30?
Sorry that was a bit of confusion on my part. The correct recharge is 30 seconds. I’ve edited the original post to reflect this.
One thing though, any clarification on the wells finally being distinguished as ally or enemy? For the last two weekends they have had ally rings on them regardless is if it is an enemy’s. Needs the red line for distinguishing.
Thanks for mentioning this, I hadn’t seen any reports on this yet so I’ll look into it.
Not sure if I like this change at all, very sceptical about this one. Sure, I want to test it first – but placing phantasms in melee range, and only hitting one target with slow at the time is a big nerf overall to this one.
Slow is also applied AoE.
One off topic question for you.
Please consider working on thief class too. We need a better dev like you
Very disappointed with the changes. I am not going to give any feed back here because we have been giving feed back since years and nothing has changed. So don’t delete my post saying that I am not giving any feed back. If you kittening read all the threads created by us then you will know what needs to be done.
I am sorry Karl, you are not doing a good job in making thief class better.
Can we please have another dev to work on thief class or someone who actually play a thief?
Robert Gee please consider working on thief class
Time to take another break from gw2…
I will be back when they make some good progress on thief class!!
Bring back ricochet trait!
It’s sad that we are losing a fun class. I have no plans on playing any other class. I will wait for them to rework the thief class.
They should at least tell us if they are working on it or not going to do any changes for P/P.
I am still annoyed that they removed this trait without any discussions with the thief community.
P/P is useless without Ricochet. I will start playing thief again if they bring back Ricochet.
Hopefully they will bring it back on Oct 23rd.
I think staff needs a lot of work!! going back to CS until they fix thief class.
Is it possible to get refund?
This is crazy… Why are they not listening to the community?
Is there any other way to communicate to dev’s? We had a thread for this issue and we had more than 10k views!!! I really don’t think giving feed back for DD is going to change anything other than nerfing the thief class again.
After watching that video, it actually inspired me to play that game. I wish I had the same feeling with DD.
No offence Karl!! You guys really need to work on the animation skill.
+1 for Monk staff animation video.
Thank you for posting that video.
I am going to try that game. But I would love to see similar animation for thief.
I was distracted, did they mention if Bound breaks stealth on hit when comboing? Or it will work like heartseeker? It looks great and the damage is solid, so I hope I can synergize it with my build.
It works the same as Heartseeker.
Could you please give us Ricochet back?
Best solution is to stop playing thief until they fix it. I quit playing gw2, I will come back if they fix the thief class.
I had enough !!
lol, you just wasted your time. They dont give a rat’s kitten about thief class.
We, thief community would like to have ricochet back. Are you guys going to do anything about it?
going inactive again!!. I will be back when they make any progress with the thief class.
Can I get my money back, which I spent on my Thief?
Any chance we get this skill back?
For those of you upset – do NOT post once and let it go. Anet actually does respond to player requests if we make our voices heard long enough.
It worked with the daily achievements – people complained about having too many and they changed it. Then enough people complained about not having enough daily achivements – and they changed it again.
KEEP THIS THREAD ON PAGE 1, EVERY DAY. We’ll get Ricochet back.
This is why I’m making my very first reply ever. I’m constantly reading post in the forums to get info and stuff, but never reply until now. I bought the ultimate expansion shortly before the patch that removed the ricochet, and now I’m wishing I didn’t. I’ve been playing the game since it came out, hardly taking breaks from it for no more than 3 wks at a time. This is the first mmo that I’ve played that I didn’t end up quitting after 7 months from its first release. So, it’s obvious I really like this game and the game play, especially the game play of the pistol thief, which eventually became my main toon once I discovered how fun the game play was with p/d. I also venom share with the shadow arts trait line and boon share on steal, to be a good team player. I love the ricochet because of getting the aoe in wvw zergs or small skirmish fights. It makes me feel I’m really helping with group fights, more so than with only the venom and boon sharing. I really hate the shortbow and only see #5 being useful for escaping a group that’s trying to yank me because they outnumbered me. To keep me playing the game, I’d really like to see ricochet return. When I discovered it was removed, along with the range on pistols, that’s the first time, I was so upset with this game. And I usually don’t get bothered with games like this because of preferring to keep games from effecting my life like that. It upset me so much, here I am, writing a reply, for the first time ever.
I feel the same way. I am already disappointed about my return to this game.
I just did a mistake buying the ultimate expansion pack. Can I get a refund please!!
I took a break from this game because they have been nerfing thief class every single update. I just started again and nothing is motivating me to play this game again!!!
I will stick around for sometime and see if they make any good changes to p/p build