Guild Wars 2

Lews.8146:

Hey, if u want help with a build/armour set send me a tell in game and I can link u mine, final stats are 3,050 attack, 2410 armour, 50% crit chance, 122% crit dmg and 16665 hp. So much fun lol, specially in some 3 vs 1 situations, I kitten ed alot of people off yesterday lol I’m assuming when I kept winning those as I roamed

O_O whaaaaaa?? What’s your toughness at?

Well, I changed back to 0/30/30/10/0 and I swapped my valkyrie chest for a knight’s chest and I already noticed a difference with the added toughness, and my DPS is still pretty much the same. I still find myself having issues with initiative though without the 2 initiative every 10 seconds trait, but I’m sure I probably just need to work on my timing.

Thanks for the input everyone.

Well kitten lol… I did actually read that power is not the primary stat of cavaliers so that kind of sucks… So if anything, soldiers is what I want to toss in the mix?

I actually just looked at Cavalier for the first time and wow.. now that I know what it is it seems like a no-brainer to mix some in! Can’t believe I didn’t see that before!

naphack.9346:

ABout the 5 sec stealth, if you were a thief then:
steal-cnd against a thief can be prolonged by using the stolen feathers

Hm, I should have thought of that lol.. Thanks for pointing that out! This is exactly the kind of stuff that will help me. Little things that I forget/don’t think of in battle.

naphack.9346:

And about backstab damage, you run valkyrie, what do you expect? Of course, physical damage will put a huge dent in your health bar, if you got like zero toughness.
Try mixing in some soldiers or cavalier’s pieces.

This I will probably try soon. I am trying to gain funds to mix armor pieces. I’m just trying to figure out how to gain toughness without severely lowering DPS. My DPS already feels a bit low (even though it probably isn’t) like I said which is why I try to stack so much power via bloodlust and food because I know crit dmg relies on your total power too.

Loving the feedback people! Thanks!

Oh and also @ infantrydiv.. The reason I take Roll for Initiative is for the immobilize break. Since shadowstep doesn’t actually break the immobilize I seem to just get ganked as soon as I shadowstep to location. I prefer to not use the heal skill because I tend to forget about the roll effect and if I need a heal but not a roll I hit it not thinking and roll out of a tower/cliff/etc lol. I’m open to better suggestions though if there are any.

@ Azraelle I KNOW that lol but if you saw the thief I saw last night.. Me and another thief were 2v1 him and he was stealthed for what seemed to be 5 seconds off CnD then he would steal/backstab and CnD stealth again and repeat. I had no idea how the fk he was doing what he was doing which is why i came here for advice. Combat log wouldve shown his dmg vs mine was much better. On squishy classes I hit more than 5k but that’s all I got on this thief.. Maybe it was a “frontal” backstab.. I have no idea..

But hey.. There’s gotta be one guy in every thread that says “teh solution is play another class lulz”.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Sifting through all the good info.

FYI: The reason I traited the way I did actually was because I seem to have trouble without the “regenerate 2 initiative every 10 seconds” trait. Not really sure why. Maybe a pacing thing.. But I keep finding myself looking for another pistol 5 + dagger 2 stealth combo and being out of initiative. Since initiative regen with the 0/30/30/10/0 is all in-stealth I just can’t seem to make it work which is odd because I don’t spam other skills other than autoattack /stealth combo unless I’m trying to catch someone which feels impossible without the initiative regen. I guess this could be my major weakness. Maybe I need more practice pacing my skill usage.

Hi all.. I have been running a thief in WvW for a while now and I find it very enjoyable running in small group havoc play. I do however run into many problems when in 1v1 and 2v2. I am running a D/P stealth build traited 0/30/15/25/0. I am running Valkyrie armor with ruby orb and zerk weapons. I use 100 pwr food and a superior bloodlust sigil till maxed stacks to raise power higher. Once maxed I switch it to a pistol with sigil of strength. For utils I use blinding powder/refuge/roll for initiative. My HP is around 15k.

One common problem I have is 1v1 other thieves.. I seem to meet a lot of the same build (not mine but same as eachother) mostly D/D that seem to stealth faster/longer, do higher DPS and also take less DMG than I do… I have searched and not found such a build so I am left wondering what on earth I am getting killed by. I get anywhere from 5k to 7k backstabs on things sometimes 8k but on these thieves it feels like I get hit for 10k and only do about 5k to them.. (Backstab)

I also got absolutely nuked by a necro tonight that I couldn’t even touch. Dropped chill on me.. Then every other condition imaginable and boom.. I was dead..

Building more glassy cannot be the answer here but there is a gap somewhere I cannot identify myself. I time my dodges/stealth/heals/utilities.. I really don’t panic and button mash and I have tried learning techniques off other players videos.. But I just can’t seem to take anyone down without help.

I know a lot of people hate thieves and are scared because they are so lethal but I just don’t feel very scary lol. It’s getting frustrating and a bit discouraging to feel like if I end up alone or as a straggler I cannot fend for myself.

So does anyone know of the build I keep encountering or can anyone give me tips on technique? How to be feared rather than fearful?

That is the first I have heard of ‘major changes’ but I will say that if so, I expect first and foremost, for Rush to either be replaced with a new skill or retooled completely to make it actually work.

It’s pretty discouraging to see that warriors running greatsword STILL technically only have 4 weapon skills instead of 5, and that numerous patches have gone out for other classes fixing what I consider trivial things, leaving warrior’s rush skill useless. When NPC’s can’t even use a skill properly, something is severely wrong.. Just go check out the Flame Legion Charr mobs in Fireheart Rise. Find one with a greatsword. It will use Rush, and it will most likely run in place and not execute the final hit. Exactly what happens when a player uses the skill.

But yes… basically everything you mentioned is still a thing.

Bring on these changes.. (but please God make them good…)