Forum Mastery
1. You gain the ability to start polls to proof complaints/feedback are not the minority
2. You gain the ability to alert a GM realtime on hacking players
3. You gain a forum timer app to record time taken before issues are resolved
4. You gain a BlackLion gem option to send WvW dev presents in real life via Fedex.
well done ! now you are same tier as BG and TC in PvE
Friday and page 8 only … amateurs
- /pokes the shaggygoat
Wassup with all the bear thiefs with perplexity – showing superb skills !
Where’s the quality control .. who let out all these forum amateurs ?
At least pradahotwind is as sharp as ever.
You need to read back and get on topic. Nobody is asking anyone to come KN.
Self praise is no praise.
Fact is no major WvW guilds have transferred to Magumma in months. People are being kind when they say we did considered Magumma BUT NO GO.
PS : my views are hypothetical and said in jest.
We are playing a game remember ?
Game of Thrones … Game of Forums … Game of Debate
Entrance Fee is anyone with Anet GW2 account.
We can’t let this week’s matchup thread be shorter than your last week rite ? We’ll be blamed as poor hosts.
You keep missing the point. Refer back one page to see the source of the thread.
You can’t post that pinko, gonna get infracted. Zergball’s uber icon clicking skills.
You cannot compare Mag to T1 servers. It has stagnated at T3 . Population, forum activity, recruitment efforts should be compared to other T3 servers as benchmark.
Kaineng posters active on Anet forums have always their own viewpoints and are not afraid to post their thoughts if different from mine. They are individuals that can think. Compare this to some forum zergball that charge in blindly to win at all costs.
WvW players can roughly be separated into 4 categories :
(1) Hardcore : will play to win at whatever cost for little / no reward
(2) Roaming : looks for less geared/less abled/upleveled noobies to gank
(3) GvG : dissatisfied sPvP looking for alternative team play options
(4) Casual : plays a mixture PvE / achievement hunters maximising rewards
The casual player base is large and probably called " fairweather ". This is important group as they form the bulk of the zerg balls / walking meat shields. A nicer term would be new entrants to WvW playerbase. Rewards / maximising gains is very important to this group. Without an incentive to attack harder targets , they will always make a beeline to the least guarded, easiest to capture objective (which usually is the weakest server with lowest score). This is bad habit as it conflicts with the overall strategy of fighting to win on score by end of the week. By making it very worthwhile to attack harder targets, we can entice casuals to contribute to the grand strategy by dropping the points of the score-leader.
This can be done by calculating the score differences between the lead server and the opposing servers.
If difference = 5000 , multiplier = 1.5
If difference = 10000, multiplier = 2
If difference = 20000, multiplier = 3
If difference = 50000, multiplier = 4
This system will result in less Pvdoor and more interaction as players will attack guarded objectives of the stronger server and the time spent is justified. It will also condition the casual players to always seek out the leading server to pull it down and there will be closer scores for 1st,2nd and 3rd positions. As score is updated every 15mins, this system should be updated in that time frame as well.
Ack … even the bear forum warriors are not as unified as before. They used to launch zerg rebuttals with same points … now it’s all scattered like bearpox. Come on, step up to the challenge.
pokes bears with long stick
I would go along the lines of : " It’s not as good as the other server choices at the moment " Look at the leaderboards and analyse the upcoming league system.
I disabled cookies tracking ; they are bad.
Idk, I think Mag is a good choice. We’ve performed extremely consistently in WvW over the past 6 months and our community is very solid. The only thing we lack is SEA/Oceanic.
In other words : STAGNATED / CONSTIPATED / STANDSTILL / STUCK
Any notable WvW guilds that transferred over to Maguuma so far ? Unfortunately, you will unlikely to be able to plug that big failing with league system coming. The SEA / Oceanic guilds are too smart to be stuck there. None of ours chose Magumma when they transfer out from Kaineng.
Golems pretty powerful in assaulting objectives atm. Mastery line for them has to be for extra utility rather than strengthening their assault capabilities.
Suggestions :
Tier 1 – Able to haul 35 supply from camps to deposit into towers / keeps / castles. This means golems get extra utility as player dolyaks. Also suffers a vulnerability penalty when hauling supplies. Think SCV of starcraft.
Tier 2 – Transform into Trebuchet mode. Permanent one way change. This allows for tactical change of assault plans from melee at door to bombard from a distance. Think siege tanks in starcraft.
Tier 3 – 45sec CD rush. Ability to rush 900 yards
I would go along the lines of : " It’s not as good as the other server choices at the moment " Look at the leaderboards and analyse the upcoming league system.
I disabled cookies tracking ; they are bad.
In a 3 server matchup, it is usual for the 2 stronger servers to gang up on the weakest as the WXP earned from capturing objectives is the same. It would make sense to take objectives in a shorter time from an weaker opponent.
The WvW dev has shown to be obstinate about giving real buffs to outmanned servers but acts like santa claus on steroids in dishing out WXP. So lets go along these lines and put in a multiplier on WXP earned by taking out objectives of the world leading the ingame wvw scoreboard. This should be easy to program and rewards players for taking out the harder opponent. This can lead to the 2 weaker servers ganging up on the strongest and keep the scores more competitive. When the scoreboard leader changes, players will redirect their efforts to current leading server.
Such is the life of a bandwagon server! Also, your FA comment is incredibly wrong. Don’t know what kind of crap you were smoking. TC is also known as “zombie coast.” This is because all TC does is throw bodies at doors over and over again.
What fantasy world are you living in?
https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvw
Cold Hard Facts. Once upon a time, FA-KN-MG were in Tier 3. KN fallen down, MG stagnated while FA rose. GvG at windmill is byebye due to bloodlust. GvG is now open field in BLs, EB.
I’m starting to accept that Kaineng is the common denominator in slow matchup threads.
It’s because there’s nobody left on Kaineng. Pls come to Maguuma
Why would anyone wanna go Maguuma at this time ? It’s not as famous as FA for GvG skilled groups and is languishing at 8th spot for months. You get more action in WvW and socializing on BG, TC which has extraordinary coordination among guilds (e.g. Teq kills) . Maguuma is at a terrible spot for the upcoming league system. It will probably be in the gold/premier league as the weakest link : meaning get prepared to be schooled hard by the Tier 1 and 2 servers.
Kaineng has fallen ranks due to transfers out but new commanders has stepped up to lead the casual players , more often in karma trains ( very profitable easy stuff choo choo ). There are also some veterans and small guild groups that enjoy doing heavy lifting work and craving out reputations for their guilds. There is no pressure to perform and we get hard, we get easy matches which will continue in the silver league as we are not the lowest server.
Sol 8341 > Sol 4310 .
I have more achievement points ! almost 9000.
^^ you are right about stealth not capping. Maybe I should explain further how a script can work here.
After capping a ruin, run a script looping perma stealth for thief while having a red name (enemy) detection in it. When red name appears, sound alarm on computer and the botter mans that account to harass players to prevent recap.
This means that you use 5 accounts but only one real person to manage the ruins. If any particular ruin is swamped by zerg, thief can stealth and run away and recap when zerg leaves. This is really very easy to code and kindergarten stuff for botters.
If they have yet to fix the teleport and underground hacks, we are in deep kitten .
The ruins will most likely be abused by hackers and botters and soon people will not bother to cap them and just use brute force and zerg numbers as per before patch. Apart from the top 3 to 5 servers, the majority will not have the numbers or players willingly to sacrifice WXP, karma and loot bags to manually station at ruins.
I recommend Anet hire a psychologist to study players wvw play patterns.
I agree. After seeing the ruins, it’s fertile ground and incentive to bot. Using perma stealth thief or regen warrior. With 3 borderlands per server, the GMs / Dev will not be able to monitor. Who would want to stand in ruins and miss all the fights and action.
I’m not sure you wanna put your name on one of the ruins. Your ascent may be your plunge into WvW mediocrity.
Your server’s ranking / population is a factor too
https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvw
High Tier / rank servers means busy maps and lottas people around / guarding objectives. Low rank servers = PvE encounter vs the NPC guards.
Reminder of the current server status.
https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvw
Kain is probably the most ZEN server atm considering that half the active WvWers do not participate on English based forums. In terms of ranking using old system, Kain is in Tier 5. Think Casual.
If you think your group is too good to fight us, the only way u can influence matchups is to transfer to a higher Tier. The more serious minded ex-Kain WvW guilds have already done so. Some of us buy another GW2 account and play on Tier 1 and 2 servers. There is no subscription after-all for this game. Have fun and take action to get the best out of your time spent in WvW.
The dev in charge of WvW does care, but the problem lies with him not knowing how to get sufficient resources ( programmers, coders, GMs) to be allocated to fixing these problems in WvW.
It’s great fun to build new stuff but a chore to fix stuff. The most important component in GW2 is the gem store and anything that threatens it. Gold spammers are usually banned within 24 hours but WvW hackers / griefers go scoot free for 4 months plus.
Realize that there is nothing players can do except treat GW2 like a disposable game. New accounts are very cheap and there is no subscription. Leveling new chars to lvl 80 is very fast and you do not need good gear / weapons when you are superman. Only when WvW reaches the stage it becomes unplayable then new staff will be employed specifically to deal with WvW problems.
Every player will be happier when they start thinking this way instead of placing hopes to get WvW hacks/cheats/griefers fixed. If you are into fair play pvp, go for spvp tournaments / duels. WvW is the least important component in GW2 atm.
Do have some sympathy for the WvW dev that is tasked with this impossible job. The stainmark will follow his career / resume .
3 reasons :
(1) Clockwork Chaos Achievement
(2) Possible Daily "Kill Scarlet " achievement that counts towards meta for watch knight tonic
(3) Scarlet is like world boss – gives an extra chest with minimum 2 rares inside. Not sure if precusors possible but I think she’s like Claw of Jormag x 2 chances.
If your server is being nasty with people not aiming to complete the event, just guest to another mid – low population server.
Long-winded post.
Flowchart :
Arrow carts – > Do you have a sugardaddy / sugarmummy ?
Yes → Eye infinity – http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0nHKqbNX4fs/hqdefault.jpg
No → GW2ZoomUnlocker
Don’t care → rant on forums for 4 months ++++
Fair enough, according to Wikipedia, 8% of males with Northern European ancestry suffer from color vision deficiency genes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blind
There’s a nice picture ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Braeburn_GrannySmith_dichromat_sim.jpg ) on Wikipedia showing the simulation of red and green seen by a colorblind person (appears to be yellow). It would be nice to do a change to benefit 8% of the playerbase BUT do not do a shoddy job and mess up the other 92% of your playerbase.
My complaint is with BLUE color. Blue Team and commander tag color exactly same. When a commander is defending a tower/keep, his tag can get hidden by the fortress icon.
Hopefully, the person on the WvW team that made the changes can man up and not hide behind " colour-blind " benefits to justify his/her mistake on BLUE tone selection.
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“If it aint broken, don’t fix it "
Did a member from the SAB Team move to the WvW Team with his 256 crayon box ?
The commander’s tag is same color now as the blue team. If you play blue team, you have to look really hard to find the commander. That’s a big disadvantage when you have multiple commanders on map coordinating their targets / positions.
WvW dev Team really needs to look at their quality control. It gives us players very little confidence when you guys mess up such a simple thing.
Aside from a little chest thumping and trolling this matchup (and this thread) are basically unremarkable. No one from any of these three servers will remember any of the details of this match a week from now.
Young Padakitten
karma’s a biotch and I’m not talking about that purple jugs. People remember and it’s clear it affects their gameplay decisions. Both TC and DB got some transfers from Kaineng and when a matchup like this happens DB/Mag/TC … this is what you get :
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/96250/gw063.jpg
Hardly any guilds went to Mag and they are generally disliked for their forum trolling. It’s natural that they spend this week getting trapped in their invulnerable borderlands citadel. Pretty shameful for that number of players to be reduced to such state. all that magswag " poof " and disillusioned guild leaders rushing to appease their members with GvG arranged matches. Mags will never move up ranks due to their forum attitudes.
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After the patches to this current event, the diminishing code has certainly been added to the Crown Pavilion Area / Zone.
But there are still many clueless folks still advertising to farm Destroyer Area for T6 mats / lodestones . Either that or they are misleading the rest to help level up their new characters. Many of my guildies have lvl 50 alt characters now after starting them 2 days ago and zerging the trash in Crown Pavilion like it is WvW.
The diminishing Returns Code penalty you for farming in the same area and causing your loot to be trash. The time before it kicks in is about 30mins to 1 hour.
Note that the loot that you get from the champion boss bags have code to give u masterwork loot minimum usually but the diminishing code may be causing you not to have chance to upgrade to rare / exotic or mats. Hence farming mobs in between champion bosses spawning may have a bad effect of causing the loot you receive from loot bags to be worst.
I wonder how long this post has to grow and how many more views before the WvW developer gets the message that the majority does not like new matchups.
I am sure Anet can track statistically how many WvW players are moving to Tier 1 and 2 servers compared to the other way.
Mid and low tier servers are losing commanders and wvw guilds that are foundations of their respective WvW scenes. On the other side of the coin, Tier 1 and 2 servers are laggy and long queues.
This is a lose-lose situation that the WvW developer has created. I am most certain Santa has red hot coals for your stockings this Christmas.
KPI : Key Performance Indices.
We use this to measure how effective employees / workers are at their jobs and bonuses are tied to it.
The success of the living story content has got PvE players logging in more and gem spending has gone up. The new flute costs 500 gems for reference.
On the WvW side, entire guilds move servers pay 1800 gems per person ( equivalent to 3 to 4 players spending in pve ). This tells the company that the WvW developers are done a great job : by not doing unnecessary fixes that will reduce the gem spending.
Unbalanced matchups is good for business : you create resentment, envy and motivate players to switch servers to be in the A Team.
Yes, we complain a lot about matchups, zergs, camping in WvW but our actions are actually endorsing the developers NOT to change the current situation. To show your dissatisfaction with WvW, these are the steps that will have a clear message that we want change :
(a) Not entering WvWvW maps – Affects WvW participation / attendance reports
(b) Not spending gems for transfers – Affects WvW gem spending reports
© Not posting in WvW forums – Affects forum activity reports
When all these reports show numbers that motivates changes to be done, then things will happen.
Frequent forum posting / activity with massive gem spending tells the boss that you have a superstar WvW developer doing great stuff !
Evertime commander tells us to stack, someone touches my butt.
This is what happens when you shout " stack on me " irl
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We have been recruiting, we have a recruitment post up and everything. The problem is there aren’t enough players/guilds to go around. The way it stands the top 4 servers are becoming super stacked, and the answer that is given by you is to stack yet a 5th server to balance it all out? I say that isn’t the right solution.
This is an interesting thought. Some of us suspected that with GW2 being an old game now, revenues for Anet from box sales must be headed down. The back to back gemstore promotions / offers/ new items, " new " PvE content paced back to back with no breaks had to be the strategy to generate revenue from existing playerbase.
Server transfers, being a gem service could be an unintended cashcow / superstar for them. Any player can transfer server, you do not need an invite / blessings from the existing server players.
Server costs affect revenue for Anet and it would make sense to concentrate / squeeze more players into less servers. PvE , dungeon content has guesting options so it provides little incentive for transfers. By keeping WvW unbalanced and unfairly biased on whoever has the most forces will win, players will pay to transfer to a stacked servers and gradually the low ranked servers will die off to a number where it becomes justified to close them.
Another thought of server transfer transfer service can be market segmentation to identify who are the best gem-spending customer of the existing playerbase and keep them happy. Say you are willing to spend 1800 gems to transfer to a High Population Server, that means you are worth more than a sturborn Kaineng " never say die " player staying put. It makes sense to reward the player that spends more gems by giving them advantages in WvW by rewarding population = win advantage.
When their number 1 customers : players in Tier 1 servers complain stagnant matchups, they gave them the possibility to feed off / bash up buffet vs weaker servers. Tier 1 servers do not like to play against each other. The guilds in them are not looking for a challenge, or else they would move to low population servers to have a challenging time and be matched against higher population servers and enjoy the unmanned bluff.
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Why would you transfer to a server just for easy wins? You won’t get any good fights if you coast to a server that is dominating all the other servers. Your rationale for our bandwagoners makes no sense. I thought everyone wanted “good fights”
Google / search for " Sports Doping ". That’s the reality of how important it is to win. The main draw of WvW vs Spvp is that it is easier to get advantages in numbers, gear and skill.
Let me just turn your question around and ask : In the past month, how many WvW guilds in Tier 1 /2 transfer to a server to get hard wins ?
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In the current matchup system, matchups between servers of 2 tiers difference is possible and happens. Server score / ranking take weeks to reflect the exodus of WvW guilds as the glicko system does not take into account : defectors from Team A to Team B.
It is unfortunate that you are gonna be a victim/punching-bag server for the next few weeks, battling the loss of your forces, trying to rebuild while constantly losing in matchups. It is a downward spiral momentum as you will bleed more WvW guilds defecting to stacked servers as it is the easier and faster solution than trying to rebuild.
Of course, Anet can do the " Hand of God " cheat on the RNG and put u with lower ranked servers for the next few weeks matchup. May the lucky stars shine on you and send lottas stuff to Anet people you know.
Taken from matchup forum thread, I found it to be so enlightening, I thought I share it with all :
Even so, Kaineng is still considered to be the worst WvW server because we kinda lack effective strategy dealing with zergs that greatly outnumber us, the lack of people participating in Kaineng WvW, the inability to control our own borderland (heck our kittening garrison got captured numerous times), commanders who have no kittening idea what they are doing or the priorities of controlling important locations (if the garrison or the main EB keep is captured, retaking it is the highest priority no matter what); and of course, Ajax Blue.
I’m planning to transfer away from Kaineng because Kaineng makes it really difficult to do WvW map exploration which I really need for 100% map completion for one character. And considering that Kaineng is stuck on the color red like three to four times in a row, it kinda shows how much fail Kaineng is in WvW.
We all know WvW map completion is very important and a measure of your knowledge of WvW tactics, skill and commander’s expertise. Thank goodness we have the transfer service for such highly valued individuals to join a Tier 1 server so that their brilliance is not wasted.
Jokes aside, commanders are players too looking for fun and have no obligations to convince, educated , shape up PUGs into an average fighting force. It is much easier for experienced players to give up on their own servers and transfer to high ranking servers. Score means nothing and having success this week means you get more chance of getting vastly outnumbered next week matched with highly ranked server.
There is no incentive for experienced players to build a WvW community and teach / encourage true new players to take part in WvW . All it takes is gems ( farm more pve) for a one time transfer fee and you will be with the winning servers.
Perhaps Anet has some figures and transfers to the Tier 1 and Tier 2 server is important in maintaining server costs.
Relax and remember that it is a game. Being placed as the victim server in this matchup can be fun for some but not so fun for others. Remember, real life comes first and there are lots of things to do besides GW2.
Only a small percentage of players are truly looking for a challenge, the vast majority are just like gangsters looking for smaller prey to bash up.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/BlueDanube/Guildwars%202/gw067.jpg
As you can see the picture of KN borderlands, Kaineng is fighting 2 servers at once. Having a smaller population, it is very easy to earn WXP from here. If it is not fun, just sit out. Kaineng WvWers does not own any one to turn up to fight, especially not to defectors that need to prove that they suddenly became wvw- pros after leaving the server 2 weeks ago.
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we just beat cd by what 200k and cd beat you so id have to say the random factor put you here….as for praise no one asked for it but the rude comments where not needed…is saying good luck and have fun that hard to say…
My style is blunt and I call a stick a stick. Whatever I say is the tip of the iceberg. For your reference.
you sound just as butt hert about them leaving as you did when you and the server asked them not to wvw so that you could drop tiers…
I’m sure Kaineng did drop rankings but the new matchup system obviously screwed up. If it’s working as intended, it would show perhaps after transfers, our elite core still holding the fort well ? Did you seriously expect praise for people that abandon the server ?
I need carebear !
bears got neutered into pretty pony princesses after prior weeks matchups
Ahhh rainbows………
I tell you all this stacking is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
" who touched my butt ? "
Rest and relax week for Kaineng I guess. Compared to our last meetup a month ago, we lost at least half of WvW population from transfers and NA/EU presence barely noticeable. Even thou the transfers were not highly skilled players, they still played an important role as meatshields and distraction force.
I would like to thank all commanders remaining on Kaineng and encourage them to take a well-deserved break this week to prevent burn-out, especially the Oceanic / SEA commanders that have been doing extra time on other timezones. Ignore the score and just logout if you feel like shouting at other players. It’s is not any player’s fault that Anet has decided to put us back with T2 servers time week even though we have been losing constantly in score for past month.
This is a good week also to farm gold in pve for those with plans. Remember, this is a game. If it is not fun, just logout and play another game or do something else in real life.
As per the saying " walk a mile in the other man’s shoes "
Every week, players nominate the underdog servers that get the short stick on matchup day.
Anet developers spread minimum of 1 hour playing on those servers everyday for next 6 days.
This week’s underdog winners : Magumma , SoS.
The main reason is simply that at the point that outmanned does that, it encourages servers to have fewer players on to take advantage of the stat boost. That, in turn, will cause people to yell at other players for logging on and taking away the buff.
Really odd to say this because us players cannot control who decides to logon to play WvW. Ever yelled in mapchat at another player ? It does not work ever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system
The Glicko rating system and Glicko-2 rating system are methods for assessing a player’s strength in games of skill, such as chess and go. It was invented by Mark Glickman as an improvement of the Elo rating system, and initially intended for the primary use as a chess rating system.
Using a 1vs1 system for GW2 WvW . Enlighten us how glicko works here.
(a) Imagine the chess competition is split into 4 rooms and runs for 24/7 for a week. Team MIT sends 4 players to chess competition and Team Harvard only sends 2.
(b) One of Team Harvard’s chess players is so sick of sleep deprivation and running from room to room that he switches university to MIT after the 2nd day.
© Team MIT wins with 5 players vs Harvard but loses rating. Next match, they face Team Hawaii that has only 1 player in the chess club.
Another analogy : Dodgeball competition played on 4 seperate indoor courts.
Each Team has access to a big basket of balls placed at end of each side’s playing area. Eastside High school fielded 5 players each on 4 courts (20players total) vs Westside High School ’s 3 (12 players total). 20mins into play, 5 of Westside High school players feel that they were elite players being let down by their other 7 pug noobs and transfer school to Eastside.
Now on each court, Eastcourt has 6 players and 1 substitute on bench (queue full) vs Westside’s 2 players.
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I think Anet got a solution for the victim servers being beaten up. They intend to come up with more rewards for WvW participation so more clueless PvErs will turn up for WvW to get creamed and at the end of the day : get a fancy title and some cosmetic potions / gear .
The primary aim for Anet to reward stacked / big servers is to encourage players to get their friends to buy GW2 and join their servers to increase population. However, the loophole of being able to abandon a losing server and transfer to a Tier 1 or 2 server means more players choose the easier option.
Alas, they forget that there is also a size-able casual WvW population that do not care for either of the above options and would just abandon GW2 and play other games. After-all, this is an 1 year old game. The relentless limited time items / offers in the gem store seems to hint of a massive exodus from GW2 and attempts to patch up revenue.
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