Guild Wars 2

Aveigel.2601:

NeXeD.3042:

Aveigel.2601:

wow you guys are angry…

OP makes a wrong assumption, and that’s it.

OP you made a wrong assumption and that’s it.

OP makes countless posts about how matchmaking is unfair and how he/she loses games and it’s not his/her fault. You understand as frustrating as it must be to lose all the time it is equally frustrating to constantly see posts like this. Rather than learn this persons first reaction is to demand nerfs to a mechanic that they don’t even understand. It’s quite ridiculous and at this point is no longer annoying just comical. OP has become sort of a joke mascot for the pvp community.

You know, replies like this could bring OP to maybe stop and see things a little from other’s perspective…There is often something to gain to listening to what others say.

And for sure, I can see that the OP can feel the way he does, especially if some elements of the game slipped passed him and he failed to see what they were…it was certainly a little like that for me when I started, but I did stop and dig up a little when I got frustrated about it.

Lastly, I don’t think we have a great matchmaking system, it certainly has shown me it’s ups and downs. The matchmaker is not transparent and you don’t know your place or how the end result was determined vs what was available…

@ OP, there are a lot of tips throughout the forum that you can find…try a couple out and see if any give you a positive result, and put on the shelf the other ones…Vids you can watch, and practice.

I didn’t follow OP, and won’t, I just happened to stop by today and look @ stuff…This post seemed both Weird in the OP’s comment and filled with responses that seem a little excessive.

Good day.

In all truthfulness what you said is nice and true, however it will fall on deaf ears with the OP.

They had two threads in the last week locked where they blamed Anet for their shortcomings in PvP.

Despite numerous people willing to offer help and advice they came back with their own warped view of things to all but refuse said advice.

If you haven’t been here long I can certainly see where you think people are piling on out to get her, but the reality of it is this is one more item on the list of things thst show what little they actually know about PvP and looking for another thing to blame for their gameplay instead of self-reflection.

Honestly it’s gone from funny to borderline sad at this point.

Varezenem.2813:

Ithilwen.1529:

I might be mistaking the source of the interrupt. It is at least concurrent with [“Rise”] a lot of the time.

Sources of interrupt within that duo.
Necro:
Warhorn 4 (daze)
Reaper Shroud 3 (fear)
Reaper Shroud 5 (Stun)
Reaper Shroud 2 over lightning field (daze)
Staff 5 (Fear)
Nightmare runes (fear)
Scrapper:
Gyro self destruction x4 (daze)
Hammer 5 (stun)
Hammer 3 over lightning field (daze x3)
Blast gyro (launch)

Lightning fields are provided by the scrapper by destroying gyros and hammer 5.

Anything that I missed?

Chilled to the Bone and (if for some reason they were running it) flesh golem charge

Jim Hunter.6821:

Starbreaker.6507:

LughLongArm.5460:

A/T-S/D – condi build, most of the time it will be A/D-S/T but some ppl use the other setup. Most damage coming from condi nukes with torch.

Probably a noob question, but why would you go A/D-S/T?

I play a lot of the meta Staff-S/D bunker in sPvP so I know the benefits of that pairing, but I can’t seem to wrap my head around on that setup over A/T-S/D.

Thanks!

so you have evades on both weapon sets.
I always ran the opposite when roaming in WvW since you aren’t trying to contest a small point and you can do hit and run attacks.

Doh…should have realized that.

Thanks for clearing that up.

LughLongArm.5460:

A/T-S/D – condi build, most of the time it will be A/D-S/T but some ppl use the other setup. Most damage coming from condi nukes with torch.

Probably a noob question, but why would you go A/D-S/T?

I play a lot of the meta Staff-S/D bunker in sPvP so I know the benefits of that pairing, but I can’t seem to wrap my head around on that setup over A/T-S/D.

Thanks!

I don’t even know what to say…

Are these threads and posts for real?

Agemnon.4608:

I’m not “stuck” in Ruby yet as I just got here but I’ll try playing at different times and it’d make sense. Teaming is always good in random there’s always a risk of getting people who feed mid single file. On ele everything feels more despaired in bad matches since you know where it’d be great to rotate but can’t get there or even shouldn’t go there so mid could go from unfavorable to equal. I also don’t care for Cleric’s amulet.

I’ve played a bit of druid myself this season, which worked out well many times. I’ll usually switch to druid if we have two or more thieves on the team.

Sorry, I should have worded my sentences better.

I wasn’t implying that you were similar to me in being ‘stuck’ , but hitting ruby with an eye on higher up with a short time frame remaining.

I definitely agree with you on the mid feeders. I can’t tell you how many games I’ve seen teammates go yolo on mid.

It’s like the cheesy martial arts movies where the bad guys attack the hero one at a time instead of just swarming and he kicks the crap out of them.

You’re in a situation similar to myself where I’ve been hovering around Ruby 2 for the last few weeks.

After being silly and stressing out over the potential at not hitting diamond I decided it wasn’t worth getting upset over and now I queue up for my minimum 3 games a day to knock out that achievement so there’s only a few thing left for me to do when the new season hits.

Ironically this has helped a little and I have been going 2-1 most nights, so at least I get the psychological effect of feeling like I’m doing well.

If you want to make a mad push you can certainly hit me up in game. I run a few different variations of bunker druid so I’m always happy to lend a hand in my about average way :P

Things that need to be fixed before next season:

Algorithm needs to be changed to put bad players on the other team

Algorithm needs to be changed to put high legendary and pro players on my team

Algorithm needs to be changed to give me at least an 80% win rate

Coding change to prevent teammates from doing stupid things and direct them to the proper plays.

Anything less than this is going to be an abject failure and if Anet refuses to make these much needed changes I’m going to come back to the forums and make thread after thread on how awful the system is, how incompetent Anet is and how it’s completely unfair that I’m not being handed wins and the subsequent rewards associated with said wins.

This has gone way beyond beating a dead horse at this point.

It’s been beat, shot, dissected, thrown in a pit and lit on fire.

It doesn’t matter what the rest of us say, the OP will only be satisfied when everyone comes in an agrees that Anet is conspiring against them by giving them bad teammates and it’s every other reason in the world why they’re not winning.

Just for kicks I decided to start working on a second ranger and deciding to take things a little slower than I did on my first ranger and experiment a little along the way, especially with weapons I’ve barely ever used.

Having said that I can’t seem to find any practical use for warhorns. The skills seem nice, but the cooldowns feel awkward and maybe a tad too long?

I just wanted to hear from the folks that have played longer than I have. Is it pretty much a dead weapon that nobody bothers using, or is there some novelty build where it could feasibility work?

I wasn’t sure so I went to thesaurus.com and put in’ opportunity’.

Interestingly I wasn’t able to find ‘guarantee’ as a synonym.

As much as I hate to say it, this really feels like a troll fishing for some bites because I can’t believe a person can purposely be this obstinate.

As far as the rest of the silly remarks – it’s not meant for elites only. I’m 100% average and I should be earning mine during the next season unless some weird programming throws me up to Legendary x2 this season.

If anything I would be the epitome of why they’re not prestigious and why most feel they’re a joke you just grind out.

Nabbo.2845:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Try another game. We never updated and many people left PvP altogether.

fix’d

I got a pretty good laugh out of that

Ithilwen.1529:

@Chaith Again, thank you. Your blessing is more significant than the screenshot.

@Starbreaker The point of this thread is twofold; First, the wings were advertised as available to everyone. They should therefore be available to everyone. My case illustrates that they are not.

Second, the matchmaker is stacking sides with one side expected to win. That is not logical and it’s producing rather extreme results. It should therefore be fixed.

Where did Anet say that everyone that showed up to ranked PvP are going to get the wings? I didn’t see that, so if I missed it please let me know.

The only case you presented is you have an awful win percentage in one of the four ranked seasons where you’re eligible to get the achievements to get the pieces.

What happened in seasons 1 and 2? Was you win percentage that bad in those too? Was Anet giving you bad teams then too where you weren’t able to advance?

I’ve noticed in PvP maps (namely Foefire if you start on the blue side) and theres a drop in terrain my character will do this weird rush forward, drop down to the next level of ground stand still for almost a full second and then do the leap part of the animation.

That (amongst other reasons) is why I decided to switch off of GS for sPvP right now.

StickerHappy.8052:

You forgot to boost the AA coefficients man. All of the skills require atleast 30% more damage.

3 Stacks on Confusion on 5 if not flanking.

You should try playing SB and check your dmg stats in pvp. It is absolutely horrid.

For kittens and giggles I made a SB build for PvP and tried it out.

I can certainly agree with you on the damage aspect being pretty low.

The only contribution I felt like I brought to the team was poisoning people to knock down the healing.

Otherwise I was better off trying to pick up rocks and throw them at people.

Ehecatl.9172:

I often feel like I’m handicapping myself if I am soloing open world content on anything but my druid. The pet is a life saver and the amount of healing you have on top of decent damage output makes you very hard to kill. You also have perma swiftness from a druid trait so you don’t need to waste utilities building for mobility.

I echo that sentiment.

I also like all the tools to help break the bazillion break bars that every mob in HoT has when you’re out in the open world.

I never truly appreciated that until I hit Auric Basin!

mituin.3408:

From amber to legend

What’s the matter, you weren’t getting enough attention in a the thread you made specifically to show that picture?

Yasi.9065:

Starbreaker.6507:

Since just before the halfway point of last season I switched over to Ranger as my defacto ‘main’ (previously was guard) and I’ve been running it ever since, so I’m well versed in the meta setup. Sometimes to switch things up I’ll switch off my bunker druid spec to a more offensive (Marks/WS/Druid) one if I see we have another bunker (i.e. ele or someone that wants to stick with bunker druid) on the team.

I know it’s been knocked down a peg this season compared to last, but it’s the one I’ve logged the most time with (besides Guardian), so I still plan to stick with it.

I have been trying to play other professions too, but I can see where switching up professions too much may be a problem and I’m probably doing a disservice to my team since I don’t know the others as well as I do ranger.

I feel competent most of the time, but there are just some games I’m left scratching my head wondering what else I could have done. That may be another part of my issue – recognizing what I didn’t do as much as what I did do.

Maybe it’s back to the salt mines, I mean unranked for me!

Thanks for all the positive responses guys! I’m glad to see not everyone in the PvP community is jaded :P

Here’s one thing that will improve your gameplay by a lot:
Record yourself and re-watch each match directly afterwards. Oftentimes, especially in the beginning, you wont recognize or remember your own mistakes because you only reacted all the time. Recording yourself will help you analyze and find your mistakes.
Stay objective, watch what enemy did, how you reacted, look for wasted skills or dodges, look at minimap to see what enemy team did while you were fighting, look at the time it took you to fight.

Are there any particular programs you’d recommend for recording?

On a side not I stumbled across someone that was looking for advice on recently played matches and found it was someone I’ve played against a handful of time and I got to see myself.

Boy did I cringe after…

I realised two things off the bat -

1.) I blow dodges at the wrong time too much – although sometimes I accidentally do it from double-tapping my movement key on accident

2. I have bad use of my Glyph of Equality and either I don’t have it when I need a stun break or I manage to daze without any purpose (like not team follow-up or not interrupting an important skill)

I find Crabgrabber the most ridiculously OP title and urge Anet to nerf it down a notch

Since just before the halfway point of last season I switched over to Ranger as my defacto ‘main’ (previously was guard) and I’ve been running it ever since, so I’m well versed in the meta setup. Sometimes to switch things up I’ll switch off my bunker druid spec to a more offensive (Marks/WS/Druid) one if I see we have another bunker (i.e. ele or someone that wants to stick with bunker druid) on the team.

I know it’s been knocked down a peg this season compared to last, but it’s the one I’ve logged the most time with (besides Guardian), so I still plan to stick with it.

I have been trying to play other professions too, but I can see where switching up professions too much may be a problem and I’m probably doing a disservice to my team since I don’t know the others as well as I do ranger.

I feel competent most of the time, but there are just some games I’m left scratching my head wondering what else I could have done. That may be another part of my issue – recognizing what I didn’t do as much as what I did do.

Maybe it’s back to the salt mines, I mean unranked for me!

Thanks for all the positive responses guys! I’m glad to see not everyone in the PvP community is jaded :P

I’ve only been playing this game since late November and I got it with the intent to play PvP in hope it would be like my time when I used to play the original Guild Wars.

I am by no means great, I’ve started to come to accept that I might not even be average and I’m honestly not sure what to do next.

After playing seasons 1 & 2, I thought I was really prepared to come into this season and do well. I knew Legendary was probably out of the question, but was hopeful I could get close.

Now – I’m in Ruby with zero pips after going through yet another loosing streak over the last two days. I’m currently below 50% win rate and if it keeps trending the way it has I imagine I’ll hit winning 1 out of every 3 games by the time everything is said and done.

This has been really frustrating and I’m really at a loss on what to do. Do I continue to ride out the season? Do I just pack it in and what for next season? Or is it time to just admit I’m really not that good and maybe this game isn’t for me?

I think the sad part is I can’t even really see for myself if there’s been much improvement. I tend to lose a lot of 1v1s no matter what profession I play and I always seem to be hitting the wrong skills at the wrong time it seems, and it’s hard to objectively say how well I did or helped the team when a vast majority (easily 75%+) of my losses have been complete blowouts and my few wins lately coming against teams that are reaaally bad.

So yeah…thanks for reading this. Any thoughts, tips or ideas is certainly appreciated.

I’m a big boy so I can handle the truth.

Thanks all!

kirima san.3760:

Main reason I quit playing pvp is because it is too stressful and annoying.

Not because of the builds but because of the matchmaking/players.

Every game is about praying to god you don’t get 4 monkeys in your team that try to cap far after they get mid every time or run around fighting off points chasing the PU mesmer/thief. It’s all about trying your best to watch their rotations and see what you can do to try and carry.

It is simply not fun, only stressful and quite annoying after a few sessions.

That was a majority of my games yesterday.

I feel like I should make a highlight reel of those with the Benny Hill theme playing.

Also in that montage would be games on Forest where you’re on the verge of being 3-capped and your team is more interested in the NPCs.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Stacked DH teams can be vicious.

This is however, not a DH issue. It is an issue with match making stacking too many of the same class on the same team. Class stacking needs to be disabled within the algorithm’s match making.

Ive also found stacked Necros to be really annoying too, but at the end of the day what’s really annoying is getting stupid teammates that refuse to rotate and insist on running in one at a time to the enemy team sitting on point

Maybe they did. For all we know you could be Karl’s personal assistant.

Maybe that’s why the profession is in such good shape!

Keep up the good work and stay the course! Don’t let these people tell you things need to be changed.

Obtena.7952:

I got your back … You can thank me later for one less useless thing Anet doesn’t put in the game that everyone will QQ about.

How have they not snatched you up to work for them, or at least hire you as a consultant?

I hate to see that kind of smarts go to waste.

I just realized that every forum has that one poster that feels they know everything and it’s their job to let others know just how much more they know.

Thanks for bearing that cross Obtena.

I don’t know how the rest of us could find our way through the darkness without your shining beacon of correctness guiding our way.

Darknicrofia.2604:

because to a majority of people, air is the most dangerous thing and needs to be dodged at constantly while red circles and 10k attacks with obvious animations are meant to be face-tanked.

/thread

In all seriousness, I still can’t believe after 7 months and 3 ranked seasons all the people I STILL see facechecking nodes with a DH on them.

Personally I love either sending my smokescale in or do a drive-by with staff 3 and then laugh as I can take them out with my bunker druid.

Guard is in such a sad state now it’s the main reason I stopped playing it after season 1.

Spartacus.3192:

Starbreaker.6507:

I think despite me being at the highest rank I’ve ever been in three season that the safety nets are a bad thing and should probably be looked at.

Thoughts?

People have been asking for division/Tier safety nets to be removed for some time.

Problem is i doubt ANET will change that till after S4 otherwise people will complain that they can’t get the division crossing achievements (unless ANET removes that requirement)

I agree that it’s highly unlikely they’ll get rid of it anytime soon.

Speaking as someone who probably benefited from it, this is by far the least fun season I’ve played despite my “gains” .

As someone that has gotten higher in this season than I have in the previous two, I actually find myself wondering after a lot of games how much have I improved (if at all).

I came to this realization the other night when I got thinking of how much I lost during my “rise” through sapphire because of the safety nets of not dropping tiers and how a 7 game win streak was what finally catapulted me into ruby.

Now that I can lose tiers I’m hovering at upper ruby 1/lower ruby 2. Do I actually deserve to be here, or should I actually be lower than where I’m playing? Again, it’s hard to tell because I see a lot of other ruby player doing things that I would expect amber (even emerald) players would do.

I think despite me being at the highest rank I’ve ever been in three season that the safety nets are a bad thing and should probably be looked at.

Thoughts?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

4 seasons for the first year.

not sure if we’ll have a second year or not.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t get a second year.

It seems (at least on the forums) that the entire year so far has been a comedy of errors and doesn’t feel like it was successful

Agemnon.4608:

Ranked hasn’t been fun in days. I accepted the dishonor and am just watching some Cartoon Network.

I can relate.

Normally I’m prety good, but the last few night I know I’ve been a salty kitten because my games have been so bad. I actually bowed out and logged off for the night the other night just so I didn’t blow a gasket and say something I really regretted.

My only solace is I’m a few days away from getting the last achievement for my wings and then I’m probably going to stop playing PvP.

From there I’m not quite sure what to do because PvE isn’t really challenging, don’t have much interest in raiding again (gave it up when I quit WoW) and something about zerg vs zerg, I mean WvW doesn’t strike me as looking fun.

Biklen.5490:

LughLongArm.5460:

Hi @Biklen.5490

I enjoyed your video so much that i after watched big chunk of your last stream.

1)I think you broke the “meta” as I mysteriously encounter lots of zerk LB rangers/druids for the first time this season.

2)You inspierd me to play un-meta build that I enjouy in PVP leagues. I enjoy pvp now much more and it hasn’t change my overall stats, so thank you.

3) Watching alot of your stream made me think that vampirism rune or scrapper rune would have helped you in alot of situations and wont effect your dps that much. Just a thought.

Comments like these really give me more energy to keep making and streaming . Thank you bro

I’m not ashamed to say I tried it out after watching your stuff and I was suprised on how well I did with it.

Right now I’m on a kick to try out as many different builds as I can, but this one ranks up there as one of my favorites.

It also made me realize that I was using my typical setup (menders, dolyak meta setup) with CAF as a sorta “crutch” too much. I’m learning through trial by fire how to get better positioning and agree 100% with what you said that position and CDs can overcome quite a bit.

Keep up the good work man!!!

That was some kitten fine play and great synergy.

Definitely going to watch some more of your stuff!

MadVisions.4529:

Starbreaker.6507:

Was there some other post you floated your ideas to save sPvP?

Because I’m not seeing any in that post.

?
read through post history if you are that intrested
ty 4 constructive and on point comment tho

Anytime!

I’m always happy to be of service

MadVisions.4529:

Less and Less people are playing PvP at this point. 80% of people who i regularly talk’d to are planning to quit or already did so.
Pop problems where noticable since ever. You knew 20% of the players by name on your level and qued into them over and over.
Why are you at a lowpoint right now?

1. the gameplay changed dramatically in a bad way. I know noone who wouldn’t prefer before juni or even preHoT game experience. This is the numerouno reason why people leave, the pvp lacks fun.

what keeps people still in?

1. pvp’ers —> reach legend && quit season
2. others -> get backpack achivement && quit season

and belive me achieving these isn’t even that fun it could be due to #1above. Nor are these some long term goals or something.

People got no goals to reach. Getting legend got zero prestige nor getting the wings.

Competitive minded people got ZERO reason to play this game. Even the Team-Leaderboard is 100% pugfarm casual kitten. Pro league is poorly organized, teams got zero motivation to play after losing 1-2 matchups. ~50% of pro league players officially admitted that they would leave the game in case of no monney.

This leads to low population, which leads to the ones who still like to play this mess have 10minutes que in ruby, which leads to less players-> repeate.
I’d be surprised if more than 1k people where playing at the same time.
At this point you spend more time waiting for a match to start than you actually play. That’s kitten up. You can have the best MM-system in the universe, even that wont solve low-population q time.

The changes ANet is going to do matters little now. Who is going to buy gemstore outfits if people are about to quit? You dont pay for something that you posibly wont see after 2more weeks. Less poeple->smaller community->less fun->more quit->repeate.

I’m done with giving you ideas, fixing these problems with whatever method is up to you.

Was there some other post you floated your ideas to save sPvP?

Because I’m not seeing any in that post.

Crowley.8761:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

google translate is your friend

I think it’s actually his enemy

Sounds like a transmission picked up by SETI

Shylock.4653:

This is the 3rd bad implementation of a League-System. Because of this League-System we get long que-times for bad matches. So get rid of Leagues and give us the skill based leaderboard back.

I’ve seen a few others say this and was curious how that works (didn’t start playing until after it went away)

This is my third ranked season, and while I’m farther along than I was the previous two seasons, I just can’t help but wonder how much I’ve improved.

I find it hard to quantify since both my wins and losses seem to be by landslides (for the most part) and I think I can reasonably count the number of close matches I’ve had on one hand.

Would going back to the old system solve that?

First world problems, am I right? :P

I do like that glass variant you posted. I might have to try it out.

Yeah the axe/torch isn’t bad per se, but I found you really need to have a group to fling the ricochet into and 1v1 it isn’t super great…

Plus the 900 range on axe makes me feel like I’m a little closer to the action than I want to be.

On stronghold though I do enjoy running it since it burns through the PvE mobs pretty well.

I had some internet issues a few minutes ago and I dropped out of a game before the start of a match.

I go to try and log back into game and I keep getting an error message saying there was something wrong with my password even though I have not changed it, nor have I received any emails or SMS messages saying something was wrong with my account or something was changed.

I did get a message pop-up earlier (about an hour or so ago) that said there was an issue connecting to the login server while I was queuing up for a match, but I didn’t think much of it.

So I had to go through the whole recovery process and create a new password and what not just to get back into the game.

Of course coming back in my team was down because 4v5 and it only took a few minutes for the match to be over. If I had gotten back in after the match had ended, would I still have gotten the

I’ll suck up the dishonor penalty because it’s only 10 minutes, but I think it’s a little weird that happened.

Has anyone else had something like this?

Fluffball.8307:

I use skirmishing instead of NM, but that’s not really “off meta” just because no one uses it. QD is one of — if not our best trait since it can double up on either offense or defense, depending on what you need.

I’m surprised you found condi damage lacking, since it’s easier to crank out than power (p/p/f). I would think you’d be doing more damage, especially since sage also has power? I was tempted to try condi perhaps with SB, but I’m too lazy since it’s hot.

It may very well be either the build I put together or the way I was playing it.

I’m not a master in either, but I do love theory-crafting and coming up with things.

For reference, this was the initial build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRAnf8YnEqAVsitsAOsAUtgFDBDOrGWTrMBg1VDo5dFsaBlMtzA-TpRAQB1Y/hJWGIDPAAAcCAAxBB4DHBAA

Should we continue the discussion in this thread, or should I make another?

I don’t want to feel like I’m stepping on someone’s toes and hijacking their thread

Has anyone found success running something off-meta so far this season?

I experimented with an A/T Sw/D with Sages similar to above, and while I liked it to a certain extent I found it…lacking I guess?

The condi clear was great, but I really felt my damage wasn’t up to par. That could have been since I was more condi based and that has more drawn out damage.

In the end I’m back to the standard meta build even if our condi clear was hurt a bit.

If pipes are off the table how about cigars?

Rebound.3409:

I like how everyone jumps on the blame train on just 1 person, when this is a game of 5 v 5. Says everything.

The “git gud” cult of ANet.

This has nothing to do with some mystical evil “get gud” cult.

The OP has been making a wave of garbage posts (at best) the last few days, so I can see why people are saying this to him.

I present to you one of his shining posts in the form of Exhibit A

Spartacus.3192:

Rebound.3409:

If that item wasn’t in…you wouldn’t have had a season to begin with. Just a handfull of people playing eachother over and over again. At least those wings gave diversity. It’s not the players fault anet can’t fix their system and creates unfair situations in every season now.

Don’t worry, soon everyone will have their wings and will not care or go to pvp anymore. You will have the empty and stale dreamworld you are asking for.

Tempting PvE players to come to PvP with an legendary item is not the way to do it. I would rather fight the same people over and over again since at least they know basic strategy vs PVE’rs who think they are fighting a dungeon NPC and can’t undertand why their PVE rotations don’t work on players.

Or their PvE specs.

I can’t tell you how many kittenty GS reapers I’ve had on my team so far this season…

Haha, your team was garbage and couldn’t 2v1 so the conclusion you draw is all Rangers should jump in melee range on point?

That was good for a laugh, so thanks for that!

Is the hard-sell on e-sports a new thing?

I used to play Heroes of the Storm and Blizzard is desperately trying to get the e-sport scene going there too, up to including in-game portraits to try and entice people to watch stuff on Twitch.

I can echo your sentiment, and it does suck the fun out of it.

I finally clawed my way out of emerald into sapphire, but it’s really tried my patience.

I know I make more than my fair share of mistakes, I can freely admit that.

But when I get games where I draw 4 teammates playing the same class and nobody decides to switch, people fighting over bosses on Forest while I’m trying to desperately hold off a three-cap or just people absolutely loving to fight off points all the time, I’m just left stunned and wondering what more I can do…

I didn’t at first, but it’s growing on me.

I’m using it as a place to switch up my ‘normal’ build that I run on my Druid

I sat down to watch and it was @ 1700 viewers.

Hope it doesn’t doesn’t overload the servers with that many people watching!