Good luck to all I am looking forward to another great week :-D Lets make sure we keep this thread civil and post updates often for those of us that have to work or can’t get in :-D
Try and be a bit more humble. Proclaiming yourself “Beastgate” definitely didn’t win you any fans.
Come on admit it Steelballs Island isn’t much better lol. Although to be fair I think it was HoD that gave us that nickname
I had no problems with Blackgate personally but yeah the majority of it stemmed from the trash talk, insults, and accusations of 2v1 just so we could win. I realize there will always be the vocal minority for few trolls but the do pretty bad damage. One thing that can help is when you see someone doing that qoute and post back saying that is not the feeling of the general server and explain. When you just reply and add to it then it only goes downhill.
For instance the matchup thread for this week on Guru was locked originally for this and another had to be started. the current one is 46+ pages I think and 90% of it is arguing, name calling, and insults and very little score updates. So basically you have to have the majority of your folks flat out denounce the trolls and work to counteract them. It is a sad realization and problem for all servers SBI included.
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While it does suck having to refresh them or let them decay it is simply not possible to let them stay up forever. The sheer amount of lag and instability this would cause would make WvW unplayable as the server has to track every single piece of siege that is up at any given time.
have you ever noticed that when JQ is losing it turns into an argument of 2v1 and accusations of lap dogs? Same thing happened the first matchup with HOD, SBI, and JQ which is what earned them the JQQ monnikar from many around.
To those that are on JQ playing the game for what it is and fighting hard I salute you and I won’t take the few QQ’ers making excuses as the whole server. It has been a fun matchup so far so keep up the good fight.
Hey IOJ , I know you think you are clever and stuff teaming with SBI and thinking ill help you bump us to third. Its not feasibly possible unless SBI gives you a 200+ point lead which isn’t going to happen.
You just got used like a dirty condom, way to give into the mooch and free labor.
I thought we were over the double teaming accusations.
Who’s warmachine, they some new guild? Lol.
Number one guild in GW1 for a while. If you played GW1 you would know them
Possible solution to population imbalances durring different timezones
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I kind of wanted to throw this out there since it has been a hot issue lately. Perhaps a scaling system for points based on population. At any given time bracket take a look at population and if two servers are dominate leave it as it. However if one server has a signifigant pop advantage consider tweaking the PPT. With this system prime time can still recover and it doesn’t cheapen the off hours crews. The main thing this would help is waking up to find out one server has a 600 PPT during 8 hours.
Granted people won’t like this idea but there has to be some kind of solution. Perhaps the answer is to allow guilds to transfer and not lose their research. Right now it is kind of pointless to transfer servers if you are established since you lose everything.
I realize there are a few topics about this already but I don’t think any of them have this kind of approach.
Thanks :-D
welcome to PvP
The reason Anet keeps deleting the threads is because this is not the place to post them, especialy when you posts screenshots and name and shame. That is a violation of the TOS and can get you banned. However if you report it as an issue ingame they do review those and prioritize those reports.
Posting on the forums does nothing to get them to look at is faster.
you can talk to the other team using a certain / command. i’ll let you guys figure it out.
I saw a guy from HoD do this last night as we were mercilessly chasing him and he got slaughtered. He was at the back of stargrove after we cleared it out of about 20 HoD and we spotted him and swarmed. All the sudden I see a speach bubble pop up that said I give up :-D Really wasn’t expecting that.
you won’t get long queues at nighttime as that is when we have a lower pop hence the score swap overnight :-P However if your a NA primetime guild your screwed lol.
@Mydublin.8924 your smoking crack really 90% of the guys I have seen have been calling awesome strat and don’t stink. unless your trying to feed false info to HoD. And transfer off if you don’t like it lol. Free transfers every 24 hours so go ride another servers coattails.
Give it some time for the ranking system to work. It will eventually balance out by timezones. you can’t arbitrarily limit a servers pop that want’s to play WvW simply because the other server doesn’t give a crap. If you do then everyone will transfer to the top servers and we will have 6 hour queues.
If the matches are very close in score guess what the timezones are balanced and one server doesn’t have an advantage therefore the rankings won’t swing as much one way or the other.
why would flame rams inside the keep be bannable? they have defensive move on them to put flames out to specifically hit players trying to take them out and can be built anywhere. Yeah its kind of a cheap tactic but I don’t see really anything wrong with it if you just range the rams and take them out or aoe them. Rams drop prettykittenfast.
unless people are building it in stupid places like walls and in usual inaccebile places in an obvious attemp to waste supply. choke points are fine though.
It sucks but it is intended :-( otherwise it would bekittennear impossible to take anything back by your citadell if you lose everything.
If so that should be reported with the ingame reporting tool and it will be fixed. Posting it here only gets people to exploit it more if so. You basically just told every person that visits the forum how to cheat.
Contrary to popular belief posting exlpoits on the forums only gets more people to use them instead of getting ANET to fix them faster.
they will figure out how to fix it but it takes time. I just hope they can fix it soon enough. There were hacks like this in Shadowbane and it pretty much ruined the game. I have faith though they will get it nailed down quickly
Posting more about it here pretty much gets people to see oh hey there is a hack let me see if I can dig and find out how to do it so I can join in the fun.
I believe if you look there is a support system to report exploits with screenshots and they look at them very quickly. The problem here is trying to 1. Finding out how they are doing it and 2. Plugging the vulnerability.
@drwookie.6391 I am not QQ’ing in the least. I am just sick of all the baseless accusations by JQQ about some sort of quasi alliance HOD and SBI have. I really should stop responding though because the people making the argument are never going to be convinced either way so its pointless as evidenced by the last thread about it that got to 7 pages before getting locked and the original poster getting an infraction.
I simply gave JQQ the reason they are getting attacked and what they can do to change it or at least make it where it isn’t so easy. They seem to want an alliance to take down HOD yet they themselves focus SBI every time they see us. Its like ooh team up with us to take down HOD so make sure you only attack them. Us here at JQQ on the other hand are going to attack everyone so just make sure you let us have anything we attack and instead focus on HOD
The problem with SBI in my opinion, and they are a good WvW server make no doubt about it with good guilds and players, are they are too content being number two whereas ET and JQ aim for number 1.
People still don’t get it. Lets see do I attack a keep that is fully upgraded, has defensive seige and people defending it or do I attack the keep that no one bothered to upgrade, put defensive siege in or upgrade? If you want to keep your stuff defend it. The zerg from point to point capping and not defending days are gone now that it is a weeklong match.
I know last night on SBI borderlands threw themselves at Ascension bay relentlessly rather than pushing east. You were going up against a keep that was fully upgraded, had defensive trebs, mortars, cannons, arrow carts, balistae you name it. you didn’t even bother to try to set up siege when you did cap the supply camp and instead just tried to throw shere numbers at it.
The only reason you took AB last night was because HOD was seiging garrison and we went to defend it instead of staying at AB. You would have never taken AB if we didn’t get hit by HOD at garrison and I can garuntee you that.
I can’t speak for other maps since I only play on SBI borderlands but this is the mentality I have seen from JQQ all week. Ignore HOD completely and push SBI till we are pushed out. The reason we fortified the hell out of AB last night was because franky I am tired of giving you guys any room to brethe whatsoever and you just focusing us. Learn to tak oportunities you are given. Figure out when your not going to take something and either improve your tactics or assault a softer target.
Every night it was the same story on SBI borderlands we would get pushed to garrison by both sides right when we had people start logging for the night. Did JQQ take anything from HOD? newp they blined it for us every time with a vengeance.
Ah well mad props to HOD and less QQ from JQQ
Exploitable Bug Caught in Action: Abusing the Character on screen limit.
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Posted by: Syphen.1980
sounds like the old addage.
Warlocks ride in single file to hide their numbers :-D
@Slayer Lord
Or you guys just suck and need a server alliance with us to win against HoD. But I am just guessing so who knows.
If common, the second server and the third server struggle jointly and push down the first server .
but Stormbluff takes sides with the first server .this game is end.
Stormbluff has a grudge against having been defeated by JQ.
Stormbluff is incompetent.
Stormbluff is incompetent.
So you want us to ally with you so we can carry you against HoD and help you push them out of the top three? I will consult with our guild leaders and discuss this but your protection money must be paid immediately and on time.
We were pretty much kicking henge around on SBI borderlands last night untill JQQ got onto the map. You took the tower by AB (because we helped kill the HoD and didn’t ninja in behind you and take it). I sugested taking it for lulz and to see the QQ on this thread but the commander said to let you guys have it so you could get a foothold. And then do you guys attack HoD with us? No you join in and attack us while we are defending against HoD. You could have had the lower half of the map and pushed HoD all the way back to Askalon keep while they were busy trying to take Garrison from us and repel our siege on Askelon but instead you tunnel visioned on SBI and pushed us while HoD was pushing back from us Ninjaing AB from them.
So your alliance with HoD is totally unacceptable and I demand you attack HoD from now on in SBI borderlands instead of us. This alliance will not be tollerated between you and HoD.
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, HoD isn’t good. The guilds on HoD are good. See what happens when they log off? SBI and JQ lack that same coordination. Although when given the opportunity of not being attacked by both sides, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who comes out on top.
So let me see if I translate this wrong and please correct me if I do since I really want to make sure I understand right. Your saying send in your scrubs instead of decent players and we can win?
I cannot speak to EB because I don’t play on that map at any time during the day. I soley work on the blue SBI borderlands and that is it. Every time I have seen the EB during my US prime time it is always 3 way with everyone holding equal amounts. I have never seen a sweep of EB during this match during prime time.
Because you are on now I am assuming you play this time zone and not prime time?
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, HoD isn’t good. The guilds on HoD are good. See what happens when they log off? SBI and JQ lack that same coordination. Although when given the opportunity of not being attacked by both sides, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who comes out on top.
Whew, for all that complaining about JQ’s issues, you SBI people sure do talk alot of empty garbage. Fact is… SBI, you alone, aren’t that good considering the bracket we’re in. The points themselves don’t mean anything, it’s always going to be a toss up between first and third and who’s pushing who.
If some of the guilds on HOD are good and those are the guilds that are in WvW all the time guess what???? HOD is good. I fail to see why you guys can’t suck it up and quit QQing. Again I haven’t ever seen a server cry so much and boast how good they are, and they would be top server but poor them is getting picked on by everyone.
And you know for sucking completely SBI isn’t doing to bad with a 20k point lead on you. But thats obviously only because henge is helping us and only attacking you. Some time slots suck others are great. So you are top in points during the day, great pat yourself on the back as we have very little people in WvW during that time. However during prime time when we are ahead of you 85% of the time we have 45 minute queues.
Here is what you guys need to do seriously. Coordinate it if you have to but make sure you come in third next matchup in a few days. Hell take a week off of WvW if that is what it takes. Drop down to the 7,8,9th bracket and you can happily steamroll again for two weeks and strut around about how awesome you are for facerolling the map.
Either that or start one of these threads every time we are matched against you so we can at least get entertainment during the match because fighting you guys sure doesn’t provide any.
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I have to give props to HOD on SBI isle tonight on 09/19 you guys gave us a serious run for our money up north and it was a lot of fun fighting you guys. I have to say the highlight of my night though was while we were attacking Askelion Keep we had some of our guys go over and ninja AB right out from under you :-D
Of course thatkitten you off and you pushed out out of garrison and dawns while JQQ took AB and pushed on Woodhaven. But it was oh so worth it :-D
/toast to HOD for actually being a challenge at least in primetime for me on SBI borderlands
:-( at JQQ
@Tarinis.6054 It seems to me your the uneducated person or you play a completely different time than I do or a different map. I am always on SBI Borderlands at prime time US. Not sure when you play or what map you play on but you sir are incorect in your assumptions in every matter.
@Strange.9607 has it right a few threads above yours in that your keeps are much softer targets than HOD’s simply because you don’t build up defenses. We attacked Askelion the other night on Sunday simply to keep HOD from wiping you off the map so we wouldn’t be focussed by the full zerg (your welcome btw). As soon as we attacked Askelion we had the outer door to half with two rams going and then the entirety of the HOD force showed up and pushed us out. Meanwhile you guys had a chance to regain your foothold on the map. (again your welcome btw).
So really claim superiority all you want but when your mindless zerg runs headlong into seige choke points and wonders why they get wiped out over and over figure it out. The reason we kept Daws all night on SBI borderlands is because we upgraded the hell out of it when it was our only tower on the map then made our push on everything else. By the time I logged off we had reclaimed our whole northern half of the map.
HOD borderlands?
No as I stated I am always on SBI borderlands as is most of my guild.
@Tarinis.6054 It seems to me your the uneducated person or you play a completely different time than I do or a different map. I am always on SBI Borderlands at prime time US. Not sure when you play or what map you play on but you sir are incorect in your assumptions in every matter.
@Strange.9607 has it right a few threads above yours in that your keeps are much softer targets than HOD’s simply because you don’t build up defenses. We attacked Askelion the other night on Sunday simply to keep HOD from wiping you off the map so we wouldn’t be focussed by the full zerg (your welcome btw). As soon as we attacked Askelion we had the outer door to half with two rams going and then the entirety of the HOD force showed up and pushed us out. Meanwhile you guys had a chance to regain your foothold on the map. (again your welcome btw).
So really claim superiority all you want but when your mindless zerg runs headlong into seige choke points and wonders why they get wiped out over and over figure it out. The reason we kept Daws all night on SBI borderlands is because we upgraded the hell out of it when it was our only tower on the map then made our push on everything else. By the time I logged off we had reclaimed our whole northern half of the map.
There may be no allaince, but SBI and henge are just poor players and heres why. In DAOC the Albs were the biggest and largest. As such because of their relic and numberical advantage, the mids and hibs would team up on them. HoD and SBI are to stupid for that. HoD has some Titan alliance(lol kitten), so that makes them a unified zerg. What JQ and SBI need to be doing is hitting them from both sides. Instead you have them just waving at each other like in those screenshots above
Full of yourself much? So in a couple of weeks when it is you and ET against HOD and your in last place will we see this same thread? Assuming you ever make it into the top bracket again (god I hope not). I think the only server we have ever been matched against that has QQ’d this much has been you guys.
Please next weeks match make sure you don’t come in first in the lower bracket so you don’t have to face henge again and all will be right with the world. You can steamroll the 5th and 6th ranked servers and brag how good you are then.
I just call it like I see it. I see no coordination from JQ and only zerging. I see strategy and cunning from Henge. SBI has quite a few very large organized guilds so we have better coordination. I know my guild alone could field 80 or 90 on one map if we could all get in at the same time and it is only that low because all 200 don’t want to do WvW at the same time.
Zerging would be you guys pushing us out of garrison, rushing up the hill to dawns following the people drawing you in, then getting slaughtered by seige, rinse repeat while you ignore the tower on the other side and don’t even bother to build your own trebs to take out ours on the walls of dawns. I mean seriously we had 3 trebs up there. How could you not see them. /boggle
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over the same way and expecting a different result.
We are just now getting our server to use our voice coms. It is like pulling teeth but it is happening slowly but surely.
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we never denied focusing JQ we denied the stupid allegations of an alliance to do it on purpose. JQ is fun to attack because points taken from them last longer as they tend to either 1. try to zerg it back leaving other stuff undefended or 2. go cry to mommy and take their toys and go home.
I was on SBI borderlands last night at Dawns and it was oh so funny watching you guys throw yourselves at the seige at dawns while henge tried to ninja garrison through the water entrance. and we took the tower on the other side of garrison from you and laughed while we hit garrison from both sides :-D
Henge thinks smart and playes good. JQ just zergs the hell out of everything and thinks they are the bestest thing ever.
BTW I just want to thank everyone for the tears tonight. They were oh so delicious.
anyone want to take bets on how many pages of tears this will get to before the end of the match?
I am going to say 7 pages at least.
There’s no question that HoD is colluding with Stormbluff. They’re both currently working together to take out shad in green borderlands.
Not cheating. Just weaksauce. A serious game flaw imo. (Yes I’m aware this was intentional. That’s what separates a design flaw from a defect.)
So let me get this straight Shad is your only keep on the map and you don’t expect to be pushed off. Now that is funny. You are right we should just leave you poor souls alone and leave the map so you can have all our stuff. Would that make the pain go away for you? Tell me where the bad invader touched you.
I think its hilareous that JQ is the only server that QQ’s when they lose and obviously noone is better than them unless they double team.
Here is my advice to JQ, give up throw the match for a month then you will be the bottom bracket and you can win with your oh so uber elite skills.
Grow up and learn to play and stop whining when you lose.
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We dominate SBI on almost all aspects, so yeah totally, you guys are pro at only attacking while we’re pre occupied with HoD. Good job.
I don’t think I have ever seen a server QQ so much over losing than JQ. I mean you guys are super awesome and deserve the top spot because no one can ever beat you. Get over yourselves stop your kittening and either try to win or throw matches so you drop a few tiers so you can actualy win against servers that stand no chance against you.
I mean really next week it will be ET and whatever other server are tag teaming us so we don’t stand a chance. Get over yourselves it is a 3 server battle for a reason so stop your tiers and get better. /tears
If JQ were better than us then SBI would never be in the top 3 because we would always lose in the second bracket.
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/popcorn
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WvW is supposed to go to two week cycles.
Something needs to be done about the transfer system first to get the servers evened out, but as of now I think 3 day cycles would be prime. Because 2 weeks of this would just be really boring.
Can’t really do anything about the pop imbalance except force guilds to move and that is not really fair to the guilds. Free transfers aren’t the problem
Did A-net really think all the hardcore guilds wouldn’t join all the same servers? The fundamental flaw was allowing free transfers for so long.
all the hardcore guilds planned on rolling on the same servers long before the game launched. Free transfers had nothing to do with it.
I would have been totally against this until a few days ago – I think a 3-4 day format would almost have the intensity of the 24 hours, with a lot of the strategy of the longer matches. Is there one current week long match where the outcome has not already been more or less decided ? It seems almost pointless (and to some cruel http://i.imgur.com/uOesd.jpg ) to continue with this for the rest of the week.
holy crap that much seige at a spawn point is ridiculous
bout the only thing I would change is the undermanned buff. +toughness, +health, +anything to make it semi fair.
I am on SBI one of the top servers so I never really see the undermanned buff but in its current state it is all but useless when you do have it and I feel sorry for the servers that have to put up with it right now.
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if they use invis they don’t appear untill they attack. IE start AOE’ing. it is intended.
Get mesmers yourself and do it how I said and you to can portal bomb. For the low low price of invis potions, mesmer elites, shadow refuge and more.
I accept any and all donations ingame for giving away the secret to how it is done.
If you think it is culling and not invis how do you know this for a fact? can you prove without a shadow of a doubt that it is not invis? If you can how did you find this out? Is there a combat log that lets you see what was cast by mesmers and others? Did you ask them on their voice coms?
I can garuntee it is invisibility skill and not an exploit and I am not even on that server. Again I have told you how it is done if you read. Try it for yourself and see how easy it is.
It is a well known mesmer tactic for any mesmer worth their salt.
Again its a news flash but has been said numerous times. mass invisibility exists for a reason as do portals. If it was an exploit then mass invisibility wouldn’t be in the game.
Only way to counter it would be to take invisibility out of the game completely for every class. And again I will state that if they did that then portal bombs would be useless. It is called tactics and it is intended. If you don’t like it report it as an exploit it will be investigated and Anet will laugh and say it is intended mechanics.
Of course now I have everyone how to do it and screwed up the strat. kitten
only way to limit it would be only allow 10 people to use the portal then it would be useless. Culling has to exist otherwise WvW would be unplayable. I don’t really like it either but nothing you can do about it. Also if a mesmer lays down a invisibility veil or the aoe invis elite skill then it is def intended. mesmer pops in drops exit fires off aoe invis elite and viola or you can achieve the same effect with shadow refuge from theif.
It is intended and not an abuse of mechanics otherwise the skills would not be in the game and would be useless.
Fixes and bannings!
so ban people for using a skill as it was intended? That is kind of Kitten.
again the mesmer isn’t attacking trust me I have done it. their sole mission is to drop the exit portal for the portal bomb. once they drop it they become visible but by that time its to late.
considering there are invisibility potions, invisiblity skills and more then yes. if there wasn’t invisibility they couldn’t do it and thats why the get skills that make them invisible.
Roll a mesmer and see whats available. There are numerous skills and potions that grant invisibility.
use the tactic yourself to bomb them outside, watch for mesmers. any mesmer worth theirs salt is going to do it. I personally do it myself as sometimes it is the only way to get past choke points of seige (IE gates and wall breaches)
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its called a portal bomb and it is intended to get past choke points.
Place seige further back to aoe that area constantly
If you get rid of portal bombs then mesmer loses a lot of functionality and utility in WvW. That is pretty much the reason portal exists in the first place. that and EZ mode the jumping puzzles