Guild Wars 2

I usually farm with non MF wearing people and as far as mats I find we pull in roughly the same amount of similarly tiered items.

What I DO find is in my 70% MF kit on I get better equipment drops than they do. That’s not to say that I don’t get a whole ton of blues and greens and even whites, I do. But now and then I get a yellow or even sometimes an orange when they’re still getting greens.

This, coupled with the updates effects on randomizing nodes so sometimes they give a heck of a lot more than they used to, seems to have made farming a lot easier rather then harder lately. At least for me.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24732

It looks like runes of divinity are on a down turn but the lowest they’ve been in a month is 4 gold and change I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond that.

I have a ton of these from BL Chests that I got for free.

I think most of all of your questions can be answered by: http://www.gw2spidy.com/

You can’t change race or class it impacts your story chain as well as several other constants in the game (what if you have race specific skills, are you gonna want a refund for points spent in those too?)

Stop being a kitten, make a level 1 of the character you really want now and grind your way back up to high level.

Ps. Your dungeon tokens are account not soul bound, you can actually use your high level char to farm goods and supplies for your lower one and speed the whole thing up by a lot.

The only way to lower the prices of items is to not pay for them. The BLTP is a capitalist market with only 1 rule – you can’t sell cheaper than it costs. Beyond that the only limit to the price is what people are willing to pay for it.

So if a precurser is selling for 400g that’s not anything that Anet has established or even anything to complain to them about. Complain to the players who pay it.

Alternately, buy a bunch of cheap exotics and throw those in the forge…. then make a thread when you don’t get what you want like everyone else does, or cheer as you make 390 on the market yourself.

@weredragon > I think your statement depends on what you consider to be ‘insane amounts of gold’.

3 months ago the idea of having 1 gold was OMG IT’LL NEVER HAPPEN! Now the prospect of making less than 1 gold in a day hurts my heart a little bit. $20 for 40 gold is not worth it for me personally now (if you’d asked me 3 months ago I would have said OH HECK YES!), so I would never buy gems to turn into gold.

Beneficial to folks with some cash and low level characters I think, but not so much to people who are tapped out at 80 on one or more.

Oh yes. And frankly I personally would rather just pay the $10 for 800 gems or what ever the static real money cost is in the store (which is the point I imagine), but the option is still there for those who want or need it.

That said there is nothing at all that is mandatory for play in the store either. It’s just vanity and convenience. There is no barrier to play by opting out of the store entirely. (though I consider being forced to limit ones self to 1 bank slot to be cruel and unusual torture personally).

So who was the reason eggs made me a nice pile of coin last week? Was that you too Logun?

The only control in the market is that you can’t sell things below their established value and what people are willing to buy and sell for (also influenced by the drop rate of the item and/or it’s precursors).

There is absolutely no control beyond that.

Maybe. As a numbers person I would love to see some hard numbers from ANet though I expect those are unlikely to be available for a while yet. IF though you go to http://www.gw2spidy.com/ you can get a lot of data on gold and gems and sales patterns and you’ll see that there wasn’t a huge spike on Nov 22 like you might expect if suddenly people were like ‘OMG I have money now I can get gems!!!’.

I would suggest a lot of those previously poor people with cash probably dumped it into the NPC and PC outlets in the game economy and bought things like t3 armor and good runes and such but probably not a lot dumped them into gems, at least if they did they didn’t immediately. The incline is pretty steady around the event and spikes quite a bit before it (around the 14th) and in the last few days (around the 28-29).

And still, we’re talking about 14 – 16 gold to buy 800 gems (enough for a holiday outfit, or another character slot, or some bank slots for example). That’s not unreasonable for vanity and convenience items with the maturity of the game where it is now. If you have tapped out at level 80 most players can save that up in 1 – 2 weeks playing their main (it takes a lot longer when you’re levelling lower level characters though).

I expect another spike just before the Winter’s Day event starts so… if you think you’ll need gems then that you’re going to buy with gold, buy them now.

They will continue to be out of control as long as people are willing to pay those prices.

BUT you don’t have to. You can put an ‘offer’ in at what ever price you’re willing to pay and wait to see if it gets filled.

Too short? OMG no. (Though new content is always good).

I am 790+ hours into the game, have one 80 char and a huge spread of others and I’m still finding new things and places all the time.

I think it’s only too short for those who are really fixed on linear progression and don’t deviate from that, but if you’re willing to try new things and explore a lot there is always, always, always something to do.

I think that’s a false premise and assuming the Karka event made a lot more millionaires than it did.

The precurser drops were very low (remember our population size is very large here, though I don’t know how many participated in the event exactly or what the drop rate was) and when they were purchased it was a redistribution of wealth because other PCs bought them from other PCs. It didn’t change the amount of coin in the in game economy at all and even if you assume the ONLY people who got good things were ones who had less than 10G (which is a weak premise, since I would actually say the majority of people involved in the event had well kitted, high level chars), then all it did was take gold that the people with +200G (which by your premise would likely have been spent in the gem store) and moved it to others (who you assume will spend it in the gem store). Thus nulling out any effect.

Actually the event in Lost Shores itself I don’t think had a huge impact on the economy, if anything, by flooding the market with high value items it lowered the value of them and thus removed profits that would other wise be gained from selling them at a lower price.

Southern Coast does have a higher drop rate of certain t6 mats though than other areas and that might cause a slight bump in the gold out there for farmers but the rate of drop is not so insane that I think it would upset the economy, in fact at about 1 – 2 g an hour of concentrated farming, it makes for a pretty reasonable and reliable place for people to earn coin with out earning insane and disturbing amounts of coin.

Yes dear god and kittens, yes.

Someone listed copper mining tools for 600G this morning too. Someone is trolling the market place I’m sure.

Players input their asking prices, not ANet.

melodyca.8921:

Jabberwock.9014:

Worst thing is the WvW requirement that is there EVERY month. Now don’t get me wrong, I love spvp, but WvW is like pulling teeth trying to find people to kill.

The WvW is a EASY. I get it done in one day. For novices you can get easily get it done in 4 days.

Easy for you. Some people don’t do WvW though.

But THIS is the point of the monthly challenges – to get you to try parts of the game you wouldn’t normally interact with.

Lets say this all together: Guild Wars 1 was not an MMO. Guild Wars 2 is an MMO.

These things are intrinsically different.

I think you can do everything but the final mission solo, though some are more challenging than others. I’ve leveled chars into the 50s easily completely solo (claw island at level 50 though solo can be a pita).

I think 1 gold an hour is pretty kitten reasonable. That’s generally my target when I’m farming then I’m pleasantly surprised when I get more.

The monthly challenges are supposed to spur you to do something you might not other wise, that’s why there’s always at least one per month that encourages people to explore Dungeons or WvW or in this case Fractals.

You don’t HAVE to get it. It is a nice reward and frankly while I don’t <3 Fractals, it’s worth it for me to do 7 (which is two levels + 1 fractal) to get the jugs of karma + all the loot and XP from the trip. If it’s not for you then just skip it this month. If you get your dailies almost every day you’ll more than make up for it.

Nunna> Btw, lots of people care about other dungeons.

Wow jaded and cynical much?

I understand Wintersday was a big deal in GW1 and I expect it will be a big deal in GW2. I’m hoping for snow ball fights and jumping puzzles and it looks like the ‘festivities’ will move from city to city so Lion’s Arch won’t be the only one getting the love this go around.

On the trading post, well AcidicVision is about right. I’m sure there will be a scavanger hunt and/or jumping puzzle for additional rewards and at the end Tix will give out something (a hat or scarf) that everyone can get for free.

Or a toy accessory that goes in our town clothes weapon slot… cause come on, asura running around swinging teddy bears at eachother? Even the biggest grinch has to see the adorable in that.

I find bank slots (I’m up to 7) and character slots are mandatory (I’m up to 7 too).

The rest? Not at all (though I look forwards to a christmas outfit for my christmas character like the halloween ones).

Ayrilana.1396:

Where your server spawns on the maps is randomized every week. It’s possible to get everything with time. Time that you have since you’ll still need all of the other components.

This is not true at all.

The colors and places correspond to your ranking at the beginning of the WvW week. Green being the team highest ranked.

I appreciate your pain. My tier has been locked out of the green for almost a month and a half BUT I just check in every week and when we change places do a quick run, get everything I can and blam. Done.

It’s not a big deal and for a player experienced enough to get world completion in the rest of the world it shouldn’t be too tricky or terrible.

Bruno Sardine.2907:

TabMorte.5297:

Now Dungeon are kitten slow to build up enough tokens to buy anything. I wish there was a scaled diffecult system almost like the fractals with a higher drop rate as you get to higher levels cause it’s hard enough to get a group together to run 1 dungeon run rather then 3 (that’s like 3 – 4 hours for 120 – 150 tokens).

Maybe 3-4 hours for Arah, but not other dungeons (depending on group’s ability, but most PUGs I’ve run with are fairly good at running now). A full non-Arah explore dungeon run can take around 1 – 2 hours of your time (or less), give you 78s and 180 tokens (which can buy 1 of the exotic pieces in a set priced at 180 tokens… and there are 3 pieces in an armor set that are priced at 180 tokens) just from finishing the paths. By the time you factor in vendoring and selling certain things to the TP that you found in drops, you’ve easily walked away with close to 2g.

::EDIT:: The flipside being, the more people doing this and not getting mats, the higher priced the mats go as supply is low yet we’ve only pumped more gold into the system.

Clearly I need to find some more dungeon going veterans. Most groups I’ve tried with take about 45 to an hour per path.

On the flip side, personally I’m earning way more money now than I was a month ago.

Currently my tactic is not to farm the same area two days in a row. Frostgorge one day, Fireheart the next, Southern Coast the next then down into the Orr areas. Never do the same thing twice in a week, don’t farm for more than an hour at a time. So far reliably I’ve picked up 1 – 3 gold a day this way. Not the insane 25 g a day that some people want but I think this is a fairly reasonable rate of return.

Between that and my other adventuring and dungeons I pull in more I’m sure but I actively don’t keep track of profits for anything but farming.

Now Dungeon are kitten slow to build up enough tokens to buy anything. I wish there was a scaled diffecult system almost like the fractals with a higher drop rate as you get to higher levels cause it’s hard enough to get a group together to run 1 dungeon run rather then 3 (that’s like 3 – 4 hours for 120 – 150 tokens).

Actually Cesmode, that’s exactly what my guild is. And it works amazing. You’d be surprised how much easier it is when there’s only a handful of you (also this is better for WvW too as there’s more guilds to contribute to buffs, but that’s a side note).

Just check: http://www.gw2spidy.com/

I’m sure there will be some christmas town clothes like there were for halloween.

Town clothes are vanity items if they were sold in games I would want them to be at a VERY high cost (and really you can turn game coin into gems and buy them that way already). Currently you can buy an 800 Gem whole set of clothes for about 14 gold game currency.

I think Omnomberry Bars are only worth buying for high density drop areas (Cursed Shore, Southern Coast, Frostgorge Sound).

Personally the BEST thing to do is level up a character to also be a 400 level crafter. Then make your own with things you pick up and bank.

I make the tarts not the omnomberry bars cause the omnomberries sell for more and I would rather turn them into $$ than magic finds.

Sleepy> I share loot with my guildies (we all do) and anyone else I party up with, and also come loaded up with foods and potions which which I’m always happy to share and more than make up for any buffs and add more for everyone and as I already said, I run two sets of gear at this point, one with one without, but I’ll be the one who decides which I wear at any given time, not anyone else.

Shall we start a rant next about how people who use their solo skills in dungeons are selfish too because they’re only buffing themselves and not the whole party? Oh maybe people who are playing Elementalists are not suitable party mates either cause they’re squishy?

You’re idea that there’s ONLY ONE WAY to support the party is frankly wrong. As I said there are only two things that are important in a dungeon – that everyone helps and that everyone has fun.

So maybe next time you’ll miss out on a player that knows the dungeon you’re doing super well and could guide your group through it with out needing to be buffed to the eyeballs and everyone could have gotten more loot? You’ll never know.

Oh yes. Though I actually find a smaller guild is better for PvE. We share loot constantly, we use our guild bank very well for this, we play together. The bonus from the guild like magic find and such can be handy too and that’s who I draw my dungeoning partners from.

But we’re also really mellow and never ever ever has anyone in this group ever told me ‘no you can’t play your character this way’ or ‘you need to play X character for this’ or ‘you need to make this’.

Sleepy.2647:

shambo.3842:

lol how do I contradict myself by saying I don’t care if people run magicfind? and to play the game how they want to?

and oh yes please add a inspect feature so u can waste your time looking for that perfect team. ..NOT

hey I found a 5th member to run fractals level 34…..inspects gear nope im not taking him, his ring has magic find on it…..spends another hour looking for someone at level 34

You contradict yourself simply because that defeats completely the argument of “you can’t tell anyone how they should play”. So why should you tell people they have to spend 30 mins more doing a dungeon because they refuse to wear normal gear?

Yeah, how hard it must be to find the “perfect team”. /Inspect, no MF gear…welcome to the group. Even green gear is better than exotic MF. I’d like to see how many of you actually have exotic MF gear and not just green jewerly/rare armor which is quite common to see.
People is only afraid of inspect feature because they can’t lie anymore, as i said i’ve yet to see many people who asks for exotic gear.

I’d like an Inspect trait for ignorant players. That way I can make sure no one with this mind set ends up in my group.

I think it depends. I probably play 50% of the time alone, 50% of the time with people (usually guildies but sometimes with folks I grab at random on the map).

When I play alone it’s usually cause I’m either farming, or working on my world completion or just in a mood where I’m going to start and stop a lot. I was a single player game player for years and decades until I found GW2 and sometimes I just wanna do my own thing.

What I love about this game is the ability to opt in and out of multiplayer content when I want. Beyond dungeons and WvW if I don’t want to deal with other people I don’t have to and both those things are easily avoidable if I’m not in the mood.

You know for my level 80 character I have two sets of armor, one for WvW & Dungeons and one for PvE which is stated to the hilt for farming. If I want to take my farming gear into a dungeon to help YOU get the tokens you desperately need but I don’t really care about and make my time worth while, what do you care?

The ONLY things that matter for dungeon groups is 1. everyone carries their weight and 2. everyone is pleasant or better yet, entertaining.

What ornaments are you using at 7% a pop?

Because of it’s impact on your story quest, race and class changes can’t happen.

You’re better off just starting a new character from scratch.

Spend an hourish every few days running through a 70+ level.

Also if you’re not crafting, empty out your collectables bank and sell everything in it (try the auction house first, and vender the rest). I bet you have 3 -10 gold worth of stuff in there.

With my norn elementalist I use the Lightning Hammer to GREAT effect a lot. As soon as I’m backed into Melee I drop it. When it wears out (I have the +10 charges) I shape shift. When that wears out I can make the hammer again. It’s awesome.

Elementalists already HAVE weapons swapping and between 4 weapons at a time via attunments. Arguably you have the most versatile range of options available to you of any class at any given time given how many traits and skills ALSO change with your attunements.

Holy holy holy kitten. No character is going to get to be the best at everything. Chill.

Rochendil.3768:

TabMorte.5297:

I don’t think you can have any idea what a class is about at 2nd level. Many of them don’t really kick into gear until you have skills and traits.

I do agree, but at the same time I really haven’t got time so play all the classes just to pick one to stick with… What I mean is, I can guess the kind of playstyle I would be using if I chose that class, for example if I were the elementalist I will probably find myself following people around for protection (I hate that) and the guardian I will probably find myself running in to fights where I probably shouldn’t (I do that anyway, but it’s nice to have a class that can back it up with their melee skill) I get that this’ll change later on (I didn’t REALLY start liking ranger until about level 10), but I can’t play all the professions at once, so I’m asking for people’s opinion/experience…

You should take a few classes then and go to PVP where you’ll have access to all the skills and be up leveled to 80. Then you’ll have an opportunity to see what the future of the character is.

Garenthal.1480:

Here’s hoping that the Elder Scrolls: Online isn’t infested with half-hearted events that plague most recent MMO’s to appease the sort of players who cannot live without their pop culture.

Oh come on Grinch, even your heart might grow 3 sizes on Winter’s Day.

Shadowlancer.7102:

@ TabMorte.5297

Since the gods are missing, “The Great Snowball Fight of the Gods (PvP)”, cannot be hosted since lorewise, it would make no sense on GW2.

Edit: Was looking forward to that too.

In the spirit of the costume brawls at Halloween I’m sure they’ll find a way for snowball fights to return, though maybe not in the exact same form they were in before.

I personally <3 the events. They keep the game from getting stale and give us fresh and interesting things to do. This particular event is long (almost 3 weeks!) which will give everyone ample time to participate and have festive fun.

I don’t think you can have any idea what a class is about at 2nd level. Many of them don’t really kick into gear until you have skills and traits.

Personally, I love it and I can’t wait to see Lion’s Arch all wintery.

ajm.2931:

Tier 1 Human Cultural:

http://imgur.com/P0oDg

Wow, I generally hate the human armors but you made this one look sweet, nice coloring.

Dear Toymaker Tix,

I would like a new pet for my ranger
Reindeer
New high things to jump off of
New things to burn down
Mistletoe
A Candy Cane staff for my Christmas Character
A jumping puzzle that will make me curse and cry and scream… until I complete it at which time I’ll be elated.

- Lucretia

PS. A santa hat would be nice too

Avatar.1923:

if you did all the content (all dungeons explo and map complete), obviously you will play less.

but thats like 400h ?

i mean.. that would have been playing minimum 30hours a week since release.
do you think a lot of people have done that??

I’m well over 400 hours and I have on my highest level character only 70% map completion and I have maybe done 1 path in a handful of dungeons and a few fractals. Mind you I do spend a good deal of time in WvW and I do have many character so I’ve run through the low level stuff multiple times but still!

Exploring all the content in the game does not just take hundreds of hours, but I would suspect a thousand or more.