I’m more worried about their plans to increase enemy toughness and precision. Former may mean that we have to get condition specced gear to deal any reasonable damage. Latter means that already high damaging enemies will randomly deal 50% more damage, even more if they touch ferocity.
Assuming they fully copied my idea of a daily fractal quest, the paths which you must do are randomized.
No idea how leveling up will work. Might be connected to the daily quest.
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I don’t think we need another one. I was just trying to find the vote on it since didn’t remember what people put on it. Ferocious Winds was bugged at the time providing less than it was supposed to anyways so probably balanced it out.
Ye, I shouldn’t have removed it but didn’t think too much about it back then.
Would it help if I fired Spoj? He is clearly behind this.
If my memory serves me right, everyone was ok with the bugged Fire trait line so it will be allowed. If that wasn’t the case I can make a poll which may move it from restricted to unrestricted.
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Yesterday I was doing an open PvE event against a veteran enemy with a high reflect upkeep. I was constantly getting knocked back and was taking a heavy damage. I wondered what’s going when I struggle on a level 17 area.
Then I look back and see 2 longbow rangers.
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Trying to find the weekly vote that had the discussion on the extra power from the fire trait also. Umm can anyone find week 29s discussion page now?
It was on week 28, there is no week 29 discussion. But I removed it since it got fixed and there were no records. I can make a poll for it if needed.
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IIRC, the same bug was in second the beta weekend.
I would say the key issue here is how to get people to participate. Rewards have been suggested but making it “worth of it” would require enormous amount of gold or unique rewards, both requiring heavy interaction from Anet. It also raises the question what the people organizing it should get, definitely not a lots of work and a huge bill.
I think the only way to get this work is that people forget about the rewards, and think what’s fun. If that doesn’t sound realistic then we might as well just drop this whole thing. Obviously rewards work as an extra incentive, but with our resources it won’t ever replace the fun.
Another issue is the organization. People who organize these rarely get anything out of it (which seems to be quite often forgotten). A heavy organization is always a risk for people burning out, especially if the result is not good (=people don’t participate).
The truth is that people don’t enjoy pure speedrunning. If they did, we would see a lot more record runs being done, even quite sloppy ones. This means any format with pure speedrunning has a high risk of failure because you will likely have only the few top teams participating.
Personally I feel we shouldn’t be doing a pure speedrunning tournament because of the poor expected return (success/work). That’s why I suggested “Monthly paths” which would be very lightweight to organize.
- Deciding which paths to run: Trivial.
- Checking the winners: Approvers just doing their job (work gets split).
- Prizes: Split any donations / entry fees.
Prizes would probably be low because it’s not that fun to watch so there wouldn’t be many donations. But the entry barrier is low because the schedule is free and you aren’t really losing against anyone.
For a big success I think we need something casual. There are some nice suggestions already and I will get back to them once I have been thinking a bit more.
As most of you probably know by now, the trio tourney by DnT got cancelled because of not enough participation. I know some people were looking forward to it so I was thinking that perhaps we could try to think of an alternative. Something to spice up the stale game.
Here are some options (feel free to suggest more):
Tournament
Big event, big effort, big prizes.
- Either dungeons or fractals.
- Solo, trio or full party.
I don’t personally have any ideas. I think DnT have done a very good job with their tournaments. Fractals are plagued by RNG so I don’t see any better method than KING used. It would be very hard to match either of these in quality. I think to have any chance with a successful tournament we would need some really good and fresh ideas.
Weekly mini tournaments
Kind of similar to tournaments. I’m not very familiar with how it exactly worked so any information is welcome.
DnT used to run these too. As far as I know, there was also a lack of participation.
Monthly paths
This is actually the reason why I made this topic. The idea is to promote record running, casually. Every month few paths (or perhaps just one dungeon) is selected. At the end of month, players who have the best time would get rewarded.
- 2-4 paths.
- Trio, full party or both.
- Fractals?
- 20-40 g for each winning player?
Prize pool can be a problem. 250g-1000g would be required monthly and I definitely don’t have that kind of a gold.
Any ideas, opinions or suggestions?
If you know people have been confused about the rules then why are we having this discussion?
FWIW, I, and presumably you, could have easily answered all the questions for them based on the rules as they existed as a permissive ruleset but I didn’t feel it was appropriate since I wasn’t a rules admin or record approver. So I just sent them along.
Yes, I could have easily answered all the questions. Making decisions isn’t hard. But sooner or later, you or someone would have started a kittenstorm of me either interpreting rules wrong or making decisions on my own.
Based on current situation, which is basically about me wasting 10-15 minutes of your time 2 months ago, I doubt we would have survived that storm.
About the meeting, unfortunately something came up and it’s highly unlikely that I will manage to get on the meeting.
I would still like to voice my concerns about the meeting agenda. People seem to have different opinions about what to discuss on the meeting and just going there to discuss “something” or “whatever people want” won’t get anything done. The meeting has a very limited time which gets easily wasted on off-topic discussions or issues dragging out, unless there is a clear agenda/timetable.
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To speak poorly, rousing resilence wich gives 1k togness when break out of a stun, is not even remotely close to the damage reduction protection gives, and not even close to the adept mesmer trait 3% less damage for each illusion you have. To be fair, even if rousing resilence would give 2k togness, protection would still be better^^
With 2k armor, 1k toughness gives 33% damage reduction.
The damage formulas of this game are awfully bad designed. Anyone who has studied even elementary calculus can spot the scaling problems right away. I suppose they don’t make game designers study math, so perhaps they should let their programmers tinker with damage formulas instead.
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The only reason toughness scales bad is because your starting armor is much more than your starting power. If they were equal, it wouldn’t matter which attribute you stacked. A player with 2000 power deals same damage to a 2000 armor target than a player with 1000 power to a 1000 armor target. However, a player with 1500 power and 1500 armor would be optimal and win in both cases.
1500 / 2000 = 0.75 > 1000/1500 = 0.67
1500 / 1000 = 1.5 > 2000/1500 = 1.33
The formula works fine which should be pretty obvious, for some reason it isn’t.
What matters is how many hits you can take. For example with 10k health, you can take 10 hits of 1k damage.
Add 10% more health and you can take 11 hits.
Add 10% more armor and that 1k hit becomes 1k/1.1 = 909 damage. 10k/909 = 10k/(1k/1.1) = 11 hits.
An example with power. 1k hit against 10k target needs 10 hits.
To kill that target in 9 hits, you would need 10/9 -1 = 11% more power.
To kill that target in 8 hits, you would need 10/8 – 1 = 25% more power.
To kill that target in 7 hits, you would need 10/7 – 1 = 43% more power.
Doesn’t that look like diminishing returns? To actually kill the target faster, you need more and more power.
If you want them balanced, I suggest suggesting halving all skill coefficients and remove defense from gear.
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There better be a reveal this week or my pitchfork will be ready!
Approved.
That TA UP Duo is added to unrestricted.
Thanks for the list though!
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Could you explain how do you know better than I how often I was contacted about the rules?
I have a pretty good idea. Since they asked me the same questions before each tournament and when DnT was hosting the records. Each time my answer was “Ask Cookie” or “Ask Ravi” or “Ask Weth.” So yeah, I have a pretty good idea of how many questions you got.
If you know people have been confused about the rules then why are we having this discussion?
Also I would like to hear why would I create pointless polls on purpose when it just wastes my time?
What’s pointless or meaningful to different people is different. For all I know you enjoy the work and having something to tinker with entertains you.
Just FYI, I got lots of free time projects, and each one of them is more fun than this.
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Should we discuss whether to host records on DnT site or mine at the meeting? :O
Anyways I doubt anyone has a screenshot of that mysterious webpage. But here is my reddit post about it, it should give some idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2silnb/dnt_basic_pve_dps_rotation_guides_for_all_classes/cnq6k8u?context=3
But perhaps some key members of DnT can reveal more about it so everyone knows what this all is about.
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Oh, didnt even know that option was available :p When did they implement it?
I agree it should be allowed, but lately more and more things get unconsistently banned. I like these tactics btw
Like a total of one or two things have been banned? I would really like to know where you guys are pulling all this info.
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Discussion 1: TA Up bugging the champion at gate
No exception or poll will be made for this. It will stay banned for now (I will approve that duo record to unrestricted). This may come up later when someone starts to seriously doing TA Up records.
Discussion 2: Unrestricted rule set
The meeting may address this some way so I will wait until it’s done. So far the options seem to be:
- Just leave it as it is.
- Remove it because it’s pointless.
- Remove everything and start from a scratch with everyone being on the same line.
Interesting question is whether option 3 would really end up with a different rule set than at the moment.
Discussion 3: Integrity of all time records
The meeting may also address or affect this some way. My current stance is to resolve any shady tactics before approving. If people want to use one they can always ask me about it so we can vote if needed.
I will approve this even though there will be a faster run once you have the mesmer PoV.
I only kick people who start afking at middle of the dungeon while having the NPC aggro.
But I have waited weeks for someone to explain me what is so horrible with the current situation. The voting pace has already slowed since the backlog was dealt with. Current rules are mostly the same as before. What exactly is so different than before?
That’s just it: there was no backlog. All the stupid pointless votes to end up at the same place we could have been without the stupid votes. And you would have avoided all the trap votes that had trick question type results, which really kittened people off. I’m sure you are probably not great aware of how upset basically everyone was when an innocuous vote on a typical non-issue had the result of unbanning of lupi wall. People were extremely angry, I’m sorry I have to be the one voicing it to you and explaining it when I have people from every guild whispering me every day about the situation. I know English isn’t everyone’s first language so they dont post here but don’t think it’s just me.
Could you explain how do you know better than I how often I was contacted about the rules? Also I would like to hear why would I create pointless polls on purpose when it just wastes my time?
Yes, I did some mistakes with the polls, and so did people who voted on them. Those things often happen with new systems. Yes, I knew people would get upset about the wall on wall. My choices were either influence the result or let it go and fix it next week. No permanent harm was done. Could you get over it so we can move on?
Your results don’t really match with mine. You think I don’t talk with people at all? Most people I have talked with are interested in record running, and not that much with voting. They don’t seem to care that much. Why would they whisper you everyday about the situation? What did they exactly tell you?
Lots of people seem to be mostly confused about what this all complaining is all about. Obviously lots of people also find some problems with the system but it’s something we can work on, without filling the forum with emotion based crap.
Secondly, I was not the least bit involved with the records when they were on our site. I didn’t touch the rules, I didn’t approve records, I didn’t create the subforum and I didn’t create the leaderboard. It wasn’t my idea to host it, it wasn’t anything I concerned myself with. The only thing I did was post about it on reddit, because a post I make is more likely to be seen and not buried immediately. I hope that clarifies it for you #dntspiracies
Lastly, we aren’t trying to take over anything. We don’t want to. This ingrate community, as you now know first hand Weth, isn’t super thankful of the hardwork people put in to organize things. I’ve said from the start of your administration that you’ve done an awesome job with the site and the functionality of it. Better than anyone could have hoped. The criticism I have, and very many others share, is how you took it upon yourself to revamp/revise/clarify the rules, which I don’t think people were too interested in. I’ll be extra clear; there are two jobs here. One is hosting the records and leaderboard. The other is making sure the rules are posted and the records adhere to them. You did a perfect job with the former. You took the latter job as a chance to innovate and revise when that is NOT what most people expected of your or wanted you to do. FWIW, I still think the voting mechanism could work but only if it isn’t abused with trick questions and useless clarifications and is reserved for matters of serious importance.
I would rather not get involved with this conspiracy stuff. It’a discussion which won’t end up anywhere.
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Obviously it would be the easiest and fastest for everyone if I made the decisions by myself but so far people have wanted to do them by themselves.
It would be easiest and fastest for everyone if ANYONE was allowed to make decisions by fiat. Benevolent dictatorship is the most efficient form of government, but has a lot of potential pitfalls around the interpretation of benevolence.
Exactly. Different decisions methods have different pros and cons. But there is no decision method which would be fast, easy and give everyone what they wants.
If people want faster and easier decisions, that means giving more decision power to me or someone else (like a council of few players). If people want to affect the result they have to get involved some way. For example I could make all decisions by myself and then we could have a poll if enough people disagree with any decision.
While Enko’s idea of a quick voice comm meeting where everything is settled sounds good on a paper, it’s not very realistic.
Also just doing nothing rarely helps if there is an issue. I’m not sure if the issue is just a few people causing drama when they don’t get what they want, but having a meeting should calm things down.
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nobody wants spoj to resign. but its quite obvious what he is trying to do and when weth took over everyone knew this was going to happen..
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What exactly is “this”? I would prefer more fact based discussion instead of using subjective terms. People may agree with you even when they interpret it differently.
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you dont need weekly votings or even meetings to decide stuff that was decided in meetings a long time ago.
just allow whatever is not breaking the rules and if a major problem shows up and the majority of the community thinks its not ok, then you can still vote.
As explained above, I got people asking about those things since they didn’t know whether they are truly allowed or some sort of a grey area. I felt it was more safe to make a quick poll instead of adding stuff to rules on my own.
“What is not breaking the rules” is not 100% clear since lots of terms are subjective. If people want, I can interpret them as I want. Then we can vote if enough people disagree with something.
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nobody wanted weths initiative to fail. but people knew it will probably end up like this.
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Yes, it’s unfortunate when the system is made more open, people abuse it by stirring up drama.
it is already blowing up itself.
also i heard there is an EU guild that is just as obsessed with nike as you are. maybe you should join them.
It only blows up when people stir up drama on purpose. It won’t magically self detonate.
Anyways, perhaps I’m really dumb. But I have waited weeks for someone to explain me what is so horrible with the current situation. The voting pace has already slowed since the backlog was dealt with. Current rules are mostly the same as before. What exactly is so different than before?
I’m not saying the system couldn’t or shouldn’t be improved. I have just seen so much emotion based bashing and hating against the current situation.
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I consider things which several people have asked about important. I have also done my best to not filter issues based on my opinion so I wouldn’t influence the result (which ironically, I have also been accused of). For example stuff like arah p3 door, dialogue skipping, etc. might have been decided on some previous meetings and the result is quite predictable. But since there are no documentation, not everyone knows are those allowed or some sort of a grey area.
Yes, I could have just added those by myself but I thought it would be better to do a poll about them to ensure there would be no confusion or further issues. Especially when the effort of answering a trivial poll is like 1 minute. Much less than the time used to complain about it.
Every poll easily takes me 30 minutes to set up (including planning, writing and so on). Do you think I would add stuff just for my amusement?
Obviously it would be the easiest and fastest for everyone if I made the decisions by myself but so far people have wanted to do them by themselves.
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After all these discussions and people’s opinions going from left to right, would it be too much to ask that you guys could consider that perhaps things you find pointless are important for someone else? Sure, there have been pointless votes but comments like “most polls were pointless” just shows how out of touch you are.
About efficiency of “all on voice comms together”. This has already lasted almost a week. Is even the date decided yet?
I think we should first figure out whether anyone would vote differently if rules were named something else. Removing unrestricted should be trivial since no one really cares about it. Starting from a scratch is an option but I think voting would still be better for that. I can just reopen all votes.
You should have the courage to give names, even if everyone know who you’re talking about, it’s a completly childish attitude you have here.
Btw, the simple fact than people vote for different things, show that there is a divergence of opinions in the community. Rules aren’t that clear (there would be NO discussions if that was the case), and i can understand that weekly voting is annoying, so a final meeting would be a good compromise to fix it once and for all. But no voting AND no meeting, even when some divergences arises ? Seriously ?
It’s already finalized if we exclude all future issues. So a meeting to verify that would be quite pointless.
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The “issue” is that I can decide whether I approve a record before rule changes/clarifications or not. This could be formalized some way to be fair for everyone. Otherwise I just make decisions by myself.
Quick question since i am not playing for so long. Where can i vote for the Players/Guilds voting for thoose rulesets?
Guilds that participate in records (set a record) are invited to vote. So basically get involved and have your voice heard.
And there is only 1 record needed? Also if the record , lets say, 1 year old is? That diesnt sound very good if guilds are still voting for rules who arent good in pve anymore.
The requirement wasn’t very high but all had a quite recent record and interest towards more. The idea was to encourage more players doing records by including minor speedrunning guilds like DnT and rT.
So I have someone from DnT, vC, SC, and rT has expressed interest except the time proposed won’t work. We can always find a different time to include rT if we need to.
Anyone else want to participate at all? Invited Wethospu but don’t know if he wants to go or not.
Yes, I will come, unless I have something more important during the chosen time.
Anyways, here are some my observations:
First of all, the agenda should be decided carefully. The current agenda is a rule proposition which is practically same as currently, apart from few things. For meeting there are two outcomes.
1) People vote about same as they did before and the rules remain about same as currently.
2) People vote differently which raises a question about reliability of both previous polls and the meeting.
This means a different more reliable decision mechanism is needed. If that fails, which I see likely, I will probably just say “kitten this” and decide rules by myself. Then either people accept them and everything goes fine (unlikely), people just quit or DnT starts their own record hosting which causes even more chaos and probably everyone just quits.
I know some people think that there is a third option:
3) People decide about rules and everyone lives happily ever after.
I can say that’s not going to happen. People are very creative and they will always find new ways to stretch the rules. New issues will come up and the whole point of current poll system was to deal with those issues efficiently. The only reason poll system came up was that “just deciding rules on meetings” didn’t work.
Also based on last meetings, in about a 2-3 hour meeting you can decide 1-2 weeks worth of polls. For example creating a completely new rule set during one meeting won’t happen unless you spend there like 10 hours.
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So my humble suggestion is that we go directly to the question of a better decision mechanism.
- How to decide bigger changes?
- How to decide smaller changes?
- What issues are small and what are big?
- Who has decision power?
- Etc.
If that fails we still have the current system which in my opinion works fine.
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Eras would mean that the dropdown with “Only valid” and “All time” just had more values on it. The benefit would be that people could more easily see records just before big resets. While also providing more freedom with approving records with shady tactics.
It’s not always 100% clear how rules should be interpreted. So a poll doesn’t necessarily lead to a rule change. The current all time definition means that I have do the decision “does this get to all time or not?” by myself. The point of voting was to move this kind of decisions to the community and that always takes a week or two.
It wasn’t 100% clear whether “fight back” could be applied to this case. Technically the boss is fighting back by trying to reach his activation location, but at the same time he isn’t really fighting.
So a poll was made to clarify the rule so that everyone would be on the same page.
From what Cookie has said, in GW1 all-time records remained all-time records even after metas shifted, skills were nerfed and exploits patched. The idea was to preserve them for posterity even if the times aren’t achievable anymore. If something is Approved and goes on the board, even if a tactic is banned two weeks later it should stay as the all-time record.
The issue with that is what to do with records with shady tactics. Should we first verify validity of tactics before approving? The order of approving and verifying affects whether a record becomes a restricted all time record, or something else.
Which kind of leads to the question whether restricted all time records make any sense. Especially if a record which should be unrestricted gets there because of a loophole in the rules.
Another option would be “eras”. Instead of valid/all time, there would be current, after might nerf but before specialization, before might nerf, etc. Basically autoselect for before and after dates. When an era changes (basically a big reset), records wouldn’t get moderated any more.
In that case it would have been “If anyone is interested..” instead of “If you’re interested..”
Last time I checked, I wasn’t invited. I assumed you guys wanted to do it yourself considering all the talk how I shouldn’t be able to influence the rules, etc.
I reworded it to "Using an immobilize to prevent a boss from activating is banned. ", hopefully it’s more clear.
Well, I didn’t.
I have approved this as unrestricted.
Description
Guild leaders can apply for a vote by sending me your preferred login name and reason why you should have a vote (was in previous rule meetings, have records, etc.) via in-game, forums or email. Optionally you can also give me your email so I can send a reminder about new polls if there hasn’t been any for a while.
Current vote holders:
- Daemoniic [HeX]
- Enko [LOD]
- Deathly [qT]
- Skywalker [TDN]
- Der/p/y Moa [vC]
- Ashlee [geek]
- Jerem [SC]
- Nikephoros [DnT]
- Sanderinoa [rT]
- Senior Magic [iG]
- Juliverine [Yoga]
Keep in mind that anyone is free to give their opinion and ideas on this topic!
Results of week 28 voting
67% agreed to ban using an immobilize on bosses before they have activated. Rules have been updated. There were some concerns whether people understood what they are voting for so I asked some voteholders and the reasoning was “vC went too far with their record”.
Additionally I have updated the voting page. On top, it now tells if there are any polls without your vote. Also the poll description has been added so you aren’t required to check these discussion topics anymore. Hopefully this fixes any problems with “careless voting”.
There have also been criticism about too much and too pointless voting. That’s understandable, even I agree with that. The biggest issue has simply been my inexperience with the system. Additionally the “burst of votes” was done on purpose before the specialization patch.
Anyways, to improve stability, the decisions now include 1 week discussion time. So if there are any issues, we will first discuss about them, their options and whether to vote at all.
Lots of people have asked me about the meeting hosted by [LOD]. I have nothing to do with that so no idea about it. But I will keep this official way up until we get some results from it.
Discussion 1: TA Up bugging the champion at gate
There is a champion and a elite at front of the gate before Nightmare Tree. These enemies bug out very easily and just stand still. This is banned according the rules but perhaps there should be an exception?
In the recent duo record (https://youtu.be/u7L-p8pGAa8?t=7m56s), the enemies are pulled behind a tree where they bug out. In earlier record (https://youtu.be/l-NOwbvYbV0?t=4m15s), the enemies are fight on spot but they still bug out (might be because they were pushed back).
I would like to get more information about this encounter. If those enemies bug out more or less randomly, it makes the path frustrating to run. Either you have to restart because they bugged or get bad time because they didn’t.
If there is a simple way to prevent them from bugging, then no change is needed. If not, then I think it would the best to vote about it.
Discussion 2: Unrestricted rule set
I would like to get ideas what to do with the unrestricted rule set. Currently it’s more like a place for records which get rejected. The unfortunate fact is that we don’t really have a big playerbase, so I’m not sure if we can realistically even have two rule sets.
Discussion 3: Integrity of all time records
Currently the rules are not enforced for all time records. The question is, do people want that? This would keep all time records more competitive since they would follow the current rule set. Obviously we don’t have enough manpower to enforce this for all previous records, so the whole thing would rely on the community pointing out any wrong records.
Consider these cases:
An all time record gets done. It uses a shady tactic, and some people don’t really like it. I make a poll about it and the tactic is banned. The record doesn’t get approved.
An all time record gets done. It uses a shady tactic, and some people don’t really like it. The record gets approved. A meeting is held 6 months after and the tactic is banned. The record remains restricted.
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IIRC, AR gets sometimes bugged and you have to re-equip all your gear to recalculate it.
There is one vote about each thing. How is that endless? If you want an example of “endless nitpicking and QQ” then look no further than your own post.
This may come as a shocker, but things just don’t happen magically. All things in the previous “good” rules are result of someone’s decision. If you think some guilds are more important than others and should have higher influence, you can just state that.
Previously the rule set was more restricted than now. So how can you miss the old “out-of-box” game play? You think your posts make this situation any better or fun? Also DnT handled records for like a week or two. Must have been a time of your life.
There are about 28 polls, not threads. Do you really thing this has been going over half a year? But sure, I can admit that some of them are pointless, partly because of my inexperience, partly because people wanted to reverse their decisions.
If you look at any other game their content probably isn’t full of holes.
So what is your suggestion? You want me to just delete my site and let DnT handle it?
Just because you find a new way to stretch rules doesn’t mean it should be automatically allowed.
Technically, if it doesn’t violate existing rules it should be allowed first pass. It can be settled later (votes, meetings, magic 8 ball etc) whether that tactic is something people want allowable.
Yes, that’s technically correct.
If people want, we can approve records and then move them to unrestricted 1-2 weeks later.
Tbh all these necros are bit lame. I see a new topic, click on it and it loads the last post.
Can you necro something I haven’t read before?
If you don’t want people crying about rules perhaps you should do unrestricted records.
Just because you find a new way to stretch rules doesn’t mean it should be automatically allowed.
Edit: Anyways, approved.
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If your tactic involves something “shady” you can always ask about it before attempting the record. That was kind the point of voting.
Otherwise you obviously risk getting rejected, even without voting.
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Rejecting this since no game build provided.
Yes, I realize that" all time" records aren’t fair. In my opinion “all time” records are pretty worthless since they most likely just show that builds were stronger.
But the point is, does anyone really care? I don’t recall anyone talking about “all time record integrity” before. That’s why I will make a discussion about this next week.
Luckily our rules can allow unintended stuff.
Not exactly sure why you are quoting that part.
Perhaps they did it on purpose, perhaps not. That’s why I removed “deliberately” from rules.
The main issue is if they randomly bug out even on the spot. In other words, if it’s hard to prevent them from bugging. If it’s banned, then you may have to restart the record randomly. If it’s allowed, then the same applies if you want a good time. So if it’s allowed and there is a guaranteed way to bug them, it’s better for everyone.
Regards touching old records. For example [qT] used immobilize trick on their TA UP Trio record in 14th May. That trick very likely gets banned after this week. I guess we can discuss about “All time record integrity” next week.
Sorry, almost forgot about this.
They get bugged on the root by the door or the tree. Its always terrain related. Theres no reason for an exception. We can just enforce the rule in future. Or say “screw it, it doesnt matter” because these 2 enemies are no threat anyway.
So is there way to ensure that they don’t get bugged?
If yes, then I will add a note about how to not bug them and reject this record.
If no, then I will add an exception to allow bugging them and approve this record.
Voting is also an option, if people feel like doing that.
Then how the kitten is this approved?
https://youtu.be/l-NOwbvYbV0?t=256
The mobs at the door just bug, nothing you can do about it.
Enforcing that older records fit the current rule set would definitely be fair. But it would be bit pointless, lots of extra work and I’m pretty sure people would just get kittened.
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I have enough challenge with opening my daily login rewards.
Then don’t open them. You can only hold 4 unopened chests at the same time, after that, content of your old chests is automatically put into your inventory.
^Truth.
The struggle is real. Every day, log in, log out. Don’t even bother clicking them anymore. There’d be more but I got bored and cleared them out a while back.
#HardcorePvAFK
Wow, that’s awful.
You just skip all the content in this game.
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