Guild Wars 2

SFR has been taken over by a load of useless pugs. We are sorting this out internally. We hope we can sort this out sooner rather than later.

We are still a strong server, and won’t fold over a little problem, We will work this problem out. Watch out VZ

(We are not afraid to take drastic measures to sort this problem out,If any guild or player, joins our server, we will treat them like hostiles unless they make a decent effort to join our community)

I started late last night in WvW. Was getting my Warrior to 80 and getting his exotics so i got in around 12pm CET.

I heard about the massive blobbing so i tryed to stay with a small group of people. It was atually quite fun being able to see enemy’s. And made facing big blobs easier to wipe.

And because everyone is linking SS of blobs. Enjoy…

http://i.imgur.com/vZ84mbf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ULApvT9.jpg

Interesting match up.

We had some good fights this week, even though VcY been slacking all this week. Some fights were ruined a lot by lag.

Fair play to VZ they seem to be coming out of there keeps more, and fighting us. And they improved as a result. I’d say you’re more stronger now than you were last time we faced you in t1.

As for Desolation, They have been fun to play against, Always fun facing the likes of Iron/GH/VoTF ect. I wish you guys would push a bit though, You have the players sadly it seems most our PvE.

As for VZ Last stand, They did well. I think the objective was to win the match up really, But they gave it a big push. As for your operation last night/this morning, Doesn’t seem it worked out

Wow, A non-troll post by me. Enjoy.

All i see is a bunch of band wagoner servers, Calling a server that started with Low Population and built up a strong wvw server band wagoners.

Unlike VZ and Deso, SFR was in t8 at launch we didn’t have all the cool kids jump to the big population servers. We built our community from the bottom up. We built on what we needed, and got some great guilds.

I can’t help but laugh when i see comments about SFR being the band wagoners.

Troma Been playing for over 17 hours, I wouldn’t be surpised if that applys for most VZ.

http://www.gagznlolz.com/uploadedpics/7078759Are_you_burnt.jpg

I see the Vizunah Square PR Machine is out in full force today.

You guys are getting desperate aren’t you.

You guys should be more Serious and turn into a corporation, Like VcY.

Shay.7534:

ethier.3417:

Please don’t comment on something you don’t know, SFR didn’t suggest or ask Deso anything of the sort, We only said we would focus on VZ.

Either some members of SFR did ask or Desolation players misinterpreted. Either way it should be cleared up to avoid any more angry forum posts on this part ( see last pages ), shouldn’t it – or maybe some posts got deleted?

There was nothing on our side, I know some people wanted to asked Iron. And we said no. No-one of any real influence on SFR asked Deso for a “pact”.

Shay.7534:

1) SFR suggested ganking up on VS to take them out T1. What’s the problem? You refused, game moves on. Why are you so insulted about it and take it personally? If one of SFR commanders keeps insisting on it bash him don’t start spiting all over every SFR and calling them names and telling them “omg l2p”. That’s just low.

Please don’t comment on something you don’t know, SFR didn’t suggest or ask Deso anything of the sort, We only said we would focus on VZ.

http://imgur.com/2FqAQOG

Dat VZ spirit, There are 3 arrow carts below the stairs as well out of the shot, Not mentioning Inner defenses.

Genev regrets sending me a message on GW2 Forums about my seriousness, untill she realized i’m a complete and utter “kitten”

No, But it’s all lies. We are very serous.

Wolfheart.1938:

I don’t really understand why SFR gets a lot of flack as a “bandwagon” server. We have a really strong backbone of guilds/commanders that have been with us if not since start, for at least 3+ months. OSC, Riot,kitten VcY, Rise and others are responsible for our long climb from t6-7 to where we are currently.

SFR wouldn’t be dominating as we’ve been doing in the last two weeks without all the new guilds that joined us, but we would certainly be able to hold our own in t1 or win most of the time in t2.

It’s quite funny really, Reading all these comments.

Let’s not forget SFR was last in the ranking in BWE3, And had a low population. When most of the backbone guilds who are still here today are, and most commanders.
Desolation and VZ were the original “Go to” server when the game launched, Instead SFR was brought up the rankings by the same people who are here today. Unlike Deso and VZ we atually had to work on our server and not just throw numbers at it.

Yes, SFR has had a few guilds join us it’s common knowledge, We were happy staying in tier 2 and fighting (Imo) the best servers that were available at the time, I know Piken had alot of drama and guilds have different goals. I’m sure RG and some of the other guilds may move on down the line, But we’ll focus on getting VZ out of t1, and making T1 a more interesting matchup.

P.S
I noticed in the other page an Jade Sea guy claiming they were catching us up on points, What’s true but we didn’t really focus on getting a big margin, we wanted to stay in t2 and fight Piken/Kodash/JS.

VcY said hello to VZ Lions Arch.

We will stop countering morning cap, Once we have achieved our goal, It wasn’t really something we wanted to do. But it has to be done to drop VZ.

I know it can be annoying to see this, I hate it personally.

I really hate that we have to night cap, Honestly.

It’s something we have to do, If we want to achieve our goal and knock VZ out of t1 (What we made clear from the start) We toke an amay-zing break from t1, With Piken, JS and Kodash as enemies, And honestly the type of opposition we saw surpasses that VZ offer.

I respect VZ are setup as a server to win at any cost, There good at the meta game, Playing the points game, and they do alot within there server to encourage communication between Guilds.

However, SFR is pretty much the same. Except we want to fight and have those epic open field fights. And when needed to defend objectives. I feel VZ have been in T1 to long. And have been stuck on the fact Points mean everything, and will avoid fights just to do this. There pugs are weak as they encourage this type of behavior and have no idea how to fight as a unit.

SFR were bottom at the start of BWE3, And even on launch. It was taken over by Fubar Alliance in the hopes of been one of the top servers, Not just to win but play against the best. I’m glad to say most of the guilds and players are still here when we started that. And many other guilds who have been here for quite a-while as well.

Thanks for the match up, And don’t worry. We are not getting burntout any time soon

Well done GH, I always suspected you’d give RG a good GvG.

VcY have often grown careless of wiping VZ Zergs, Playing Music on our TS and then mistake you guys for VZ blob and get destroyed ^^

About GvG between VcY and Bull
I’ll admit, I was wrong. There were 2 Volt guys i saw after watching Bulls stream who did Gank two players. I only saw them start the Spider Queen Trait point. I won’t make excuses but that battle was pretty much already won, with most Bull down as it was when those guys came along though.

VcY apologize about this, We are very “serious” and do not condone this type of action. But again, Were sorry for a very few of SFR getting involved in the GvG.

VcY Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jU6w7fue0s&list=UUHRug0FJJ8-ah99iom2TBxA&index=1

Teel.9036:

Yaro.3251:

ethier.3417:

Thanks for the gvg BuLl friday evening.
I know you felt as though the pugs were joining in, But they weren’t and even desolation guilds who were watching agree’d with us, It was however very messy, With pugs from both servers attacking the Spider Queen Trait point. And a certain SFR player being a pain.

I felt though our gvg fights were even and we deserved to win 3-0, Respect to ex Kaz guild though, You guys are still impressive and well organised even with the guild drama that happened.

I hope we can do it again sometime in a more quiet place with no pugs about.

Thanks for the fights.

I wasn’t there but this GvG produced quite a buzz in the community. I was suggesting BULL guys to publish their video and would recommend you (or any spectators who were recording) to do the same so there’s no misunderstanding and no room for rumors. As it stands atm, I believe many Deso guilds will be reluctant in arranging more GvGs with you.

P.S. This post is personal opinion and doesn’t necessary reflect any of Deso guilds official stance. Including GH, since I’m not an officer.

In the video on SFR side you can clearly see 2 VOLT members even finishing Bull members in downed state in the middle of the battle, and Riot had a member there as well harassing us spectators and from what I heard from Bull attacking them in their fight with VcY as well.

Deso had 3+ individuals as well involved in the fighting. One person from a guild with the abbreviation [KG], another from a guild called Moonlight Shadow and yet another from [LoP] (Lions of Persia?) All these 3 people were either downed or finished in the battle(s) by Bull.

^ Very Messy indeed.

Like i said, I only can say what i saw. I spoke with a few VoTF guys who were watching and they said this didn’t happen i didn’t see this as i was too busy focusing on killing bull.

In the end it’s pugs who are getting in the way from a good GvG.

P.S It wasn’t a Riot guy it was RIP guild.

Yaro.3251:

ethier.3417:

Thanks for the gvg BuLl friday evening.
I know you felt as though the pugs were joining in, But they weren’t and even desolation guilds who were watching agree’d with us, It was however very messy, With pugs from both servers attacking the Spider Queen Trait point. And a certain SFR player being a pain.

I felt though our gvg fights were even and we deserved to win 3-0, Respect to ex Kaz guild though, You guys are still impressive and well organised even with the guild drama that happened.

I hope we can do it again sometime in a more quiet place with no pugs about.

Thanks for the fights.

I wasn’t there but this GvG produced quite a buzz in the community. I was suggesting BULL guys to publish their video and would recommend you (or any spectators who were recording) to do the same so there’s no misunderstanding and no room for rumors. As it stands atm, I believe many Deso guilds will be reluctant in arranging more GvGs with you.

P.S. This post is personal opinion and doesn’t necessary reflect any of Deso guilds official stance. EIncluding mine, since I’m not an officer.

You can ask VoTF who were there. They saw what happened and they backed us up.

We will have a video out in a few days. There is no denying Pugs were messing about, We told ours to keep away and there was one guy who didn’t. We can’t control the actions of one person sadly.

However we beat them fair and square imo, When we had our fights, I didn’t notice any SFR pug attack and even the Deso people watching said the same. I’ve spoke to one of the Bull guys today. And we hope to arrange a more quiet GvG with them.

I won’t say it wasn’t messy, It was. There was a few people from our server popping the Spider Queen Trait point, before our fights and one guy who will go unnamed who popped a flame ram buildsite before we were about to start.

It’s sad to see, But there was Desolation pugs who attacked our guys when some of our guys had to die to get rid of the blood lust buff. In the end people can make there minds up with the video. VoTF guild from deso was watching and we told them to keep an eye on our pugs to see if they were attacking, And they said they weren’t.

If Bull want to organise a more quiet event, We a more than welcome. I didn’t see any other SFR pugs attack when we were fighting nor did RG/VoTF and many other /w i got from some other random Deso guys.

Thanks for the gvg BuLl friday evening.

I know you felt as though the pugs were joining in, But they weren’t and even desolation guilds who were watching agree’d with us, It was however very messy, With pugs from both servers attacking the Spider Queen Trait point. And a certain SFR player being a pain.

I felt though our gvg fights were even and we deserved to win 3-0, Respect to ex Kaz guild though, You guys are still impressive and well organised even with the guild drama that happened.

I hope we can do it again sometime in a more quiet place with no pugs about.

Thanks for the fights.

P.S I hope VZ enjoyed our invasion on VZ Lions Arch <3

I apologize for that overkill golem rush on Deso Borderland….

Teel.9036:

Toubzsky.6087:

So it seems that nightcapping/morningcapping is not a probleme anymore for sfr now that they win because of it.

Oh and you can also thanks your lapdogs Desolation.

Kinda fun that you start complaining that SFR people go up early just one day in the entire matchup, when it’s Viz who do it every other day of the week. Hypocrisy!

Funny that isn’t it.

;)

Genev.2450:

ladyfabulous.1403:

Jue.6493:

Desolation needs to go to T2 until some things get sorted. Mainly the cooperation of certain guilds.

Try to use 1 TS for SFR/BT/FSP/DS/PS conglomerate the coordination will instantly be better!

I did hear Vcy is incredibly hilarious when drunk, something about a karaoke bot and bad singing… /ponder
I’d sure want to witness that, 1 TS might be the solution there :o

That isn’t me, I swear it. Honest. I’m an Amay-zing singer.

Sacrx.6721:

Seems SFR is in transition from what i heard in there last meeting tho becoming community driven lets zerg all over.

Clearly JS want to be viz part 2 or 3 legged rats as i call them to there viz brothers.

SFR/Piken/t1 drop – t3 upper make it happen.

Well, I hate to tell you but whoever gave you that information is wrong, we have been trying to increase are activity at night in a more community driven way, But simple fact is we don’t have the numbers to do that.

Credit where credit is due, Jade Sea do less of that "running into tower and grabbing an arrow cart. BL is the only real guild i’ve seen that has done this.

And on Kodash Borderland this week, We’ve had some epic 3 way open field fights around Bay with KoA/RDT/BL ect.

Just a preview of the fights we’ve had with them, Has been great fun. Much more fun than fighting VZ, Running into a keep at any sign of a fight and playing a boring meta game.

http://i.imgur.com/p2x5Do2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VQUXe0a.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DRHfkVZ.jpg

Some Footage of the fights on Kodash Borderland Last night.

Good fights in EB tonight.

I think VZ are getting the wrong idea.

We don’t hate you, You play the points game well, You know how to get to first in a match up. We don’t like how you play, my personal opinion is when i face you guys in open combat you run, even if you outnumber us, This is boring and SFR are getting fed up of this tatic.

You play for point, and not epic fights, you hide behind walls while we fight. It’s boring for us, I’ll honestly say we’ve had better fights in t3/4 than agaisnt VZ, Not because you have bad players, but your server has a mentality of win or lose, You avoid fights, play the meta game and hope to get as many points before a tick.

It’s clever play, but it’s not something me or the rest of SFR community respect, We prefer open fights, epic battles and a willingness to face your enemy head on and learn from the last battle so you can better yourself as a guild and a server.

VZ are great at playing the points game, They have some decent players, decent guilds, great commanders, Great Time coverage, But there style of playing is so anti PvP i’ll focus you while i’m a commander, I’ll still fight deso and push them when, but my main focus is VZ.

As i see it, I’d much prefer a Server like Blacktide/Gandara or Piken Square, Than VZ in t1 who i’d say there style of WvW is not anti PvP and is using less of themeta game. What’s sad really is VZ have some decent players and guilds.

double post.

We know exactly how Vizunah play, If involves a wall between you and the enemy and arrow carts. And lots.

Don’t pretend you havn’t teamed up, Blacktide and Desolation have felt exactly how it has felt, even SFR agaisnt 2 german servers.

The great thing is we’re not even teaming up. The difference from this week and last week is you’re atually agaisnt 2 servers not 1 as Elona were just poor and hardly had guys on the map.

There is no teaming up, or “pact” we let Iron take hills after we got the tick because it would have been a pain to hold it and Iron deserved it more than Viz.

Kayato.9178:

only press forward and key 1, not our case on Vizunah sorry

You really do have no clue do you?

It’s soo nice having atleast one server come and fight us.
Props to Desolation, esp Iron and Kaz who atually fight us and not run away.

Looking forward too meeting [KAZ] and [Iron] good enemy’s last time we met.

The most boring server.

I’ll give to to Viz, They know how to win and they’ll win anyway even stooping so low to lame tatics.

They’re set up nicely in terms of defending, They’ll build god knows how many arrow carts, and hold a keep. They have a very strong night force in numbers, even PRX get outnumbered and have to focus on one BL.

I don’t get how you’ve managed to stay in t1 so long, You’re members must be bored, You do everything you can to avoid fighting, You’re tatics on defending are second to none but when it comes to fighting you fall hard.

Apart from War Legend, I hardly see any other guild, just a massive blob of randoms, who fall easily once they come out and play

But credit where credits due, You’ve won your 10th t1 bracket.

Victory.2879:

VoTF’s tactic of running back and forth and waypointing to lose ‘randoms’ is not really helping newer players or those from smaller guilds as from their point of view they think ‘ah sod it I’ll go off and run around solo/go do the JP/join some other headless chickens, no point in trying to follow commanders’. If you really want to run around in a guild only group then turn your commander icon OFF and use TS to position your team. It’s becoming counter productive as I have heard several comments from newer players that they won’t bother to listen to a commander as the last one they followed (VoTF) didn’t want them so what’s the point? People see what you are doing as ‘elitism’ and it’s backfiring on the general wvw population. If you don’t want randoms following your guild around , TURN OFF THE BADGE. Don’t get me wrong, you guys are well organised and do make an impact and I have a lot of respect for you guys, but remember how your actions are viewed from outside as well.

We didn’t have a commander Icon on, We told randoms to join the commander as he needed help. They were also making us wipe when they died they would rally up a 40-50 Elona Zerg. They were more of a problem than a solution.

Anyway, here are some fights from last night in EB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rjidD-RP7Nk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RRVpMNR-VEM

Insane fights in BB borderland today.

Kaz were very impressive today. Seemed like BB server rallyed in that Borderland and really gave it a go. Sadly we couldn’t hold on to hills and bay as our events have stopped and lost the manpower to defend them.

We’ve had alot of fun this week.

Some of the action in BB Borderland tuesday night.

Insane fights in SFR Borderland today.

We were pushed back alot today in there, We struggled to hold out agaisnt IRON and Elona. If only IRON left attacking Dawns Eiyre for like 10 mins, We were about to get outer of Bay walls down and had wiped most of [WvW] Guild defending it.

Once we lost Dawns we lost the fight, it was back and forth for a while and we had some epic fights in it but soon as you were able to get siege weps in it, we lost.

Then it was holding Garrision from you both.

Offski.4897:

Shame Seafarers dont seem to come on this thread much. You guys seem to prefer the self congratulation and flaming on your community page.

I think in general you guys are great but before you flame deso remember we have no queue’s other than on one border for maybe two hours in the evening due to so many of our players joining ruin and then leaving with them.

You have had many guilds join you recently and have huge numbers so rather than flaming us, show some respect to the guilds who have stuck with desolation and not taken the easy path of a server transfer when times are hard.

The community page will always big up SFR, We have most of the Server on there so it’s bound to be biased. That aside i’d say most people from SFR respect are enemy’s, We’ve had some great fights just over the weekend.

I havn’t seen much flaming tbh mate, It’s great to see fights and guilds not giving up straight away after they’ve been wiped.

Please remember, Many of the core guilds you see in WvW today have contributed alot to SFR since launch, We toke this server on as bottom in the WvW rankings and we’ve turned it into a t2 server (When it was medium) we’ve now had a few guilds join us and i welcome them, Maybe we will get to t1 one day, And we can see how we do against them.

We respect are enemy, There had to be ALOT of rebuilding of SFR after we dropped out of T2, and we fought hard to get guilds to cover our weak points. If anything SFR success in WvW has to do with a community as a whole, we have alot of Skilled WvW guilds, who are always willing to help each other out.

If one Borderland is losing, That’s communicated though the PevePe.net Website and they get backup. That’s why you see us move in and out of borderlands alot.

Looks like i’m missing out on all the fun…. Split Shifts suck.

Got to say the scores look very close atm, SFR have a 6k lead over Deso, but that could very well change over the course of the week.

Special Thanks to IRON from Desolation, You guys seem to be bloody everywhere like Xoac, It’s nice to see fighting again after last week matchup.

wtf, Piken Square are in t4, Grats.

Even with RG moving to Blacktide you managed to get there.

Really nice fights with IRON guild on SFR Borderland on reset… Had some pretty nice fights @ Cragtop/Hills

Some great fights with Riverside in the last two hours in Riverside Borderland, When i got back from work we’d just lost bay, We got people into Riverside and held them back at hils.

We pushed them back and they regrouped and tryed to treb hills from Stargrove… Our TS channel burst out in laughter after they fell from the top of the supply camp and died from death, we pushed them away from the supply camp and got OSC to clear the treb and regroup at the supply camp to take the rest of you guys.

Was hella fun.

As for Xanthian comment, All i have to say is i hardly see FSP and when i do no matter if we are even numbers or zerging you, you don’t put much of a fight up.

Great fight tonight/this morning Riverside though, had some great fun.

I apologize for bad spelling, That’s what Tequilla and Beer does to you

Reztek.7805:

Yes, SFR is pretty hilarious on the forums. Maybe 10% are “normal” posts. You’ll come to that conclusion in almost any of their battle threads. No matter who they play against, it’s either them being whining because of numbers or double teaming or them bragging about ‘pure’ skill. chuckles

In the end it’s just an almost 24/7 crew, mediocre though.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Seafarer-s-Rest-EU-Server-Medium-Pop-in-T3

I’ve only ever seen whining once from us, That was agaisnt 2 DE servers who openly worked together after we toke 50k point lead during the weekend.
I didn’t mind it so much as there was alot of action in WvW but couldn’t hold our points very well.
Granted we have a few that complained about Night Time PvD servers at the start as well.

“In the end it’s just an almost 24/7 crew”

Haha, That’s funny. I can tell you we’ve had one small american guild join our server recently and some of them are Eu players. That’s the only night cover we have + randoms.

Also, We have and never will accept alliances from other servers, the simple matter of a FS are just poor, They lack numbers, have no real wvw guild on there server now and are easy pickings for points.

I have enjoyed fights with Riverside, Although on Sunday i thought it was lame they had a zerg of 70-80 player for there “community tatics meeting” in the corner of the riverside borderland map while we controled the whole map with less than 20 people. It was alot of fun after they finished and nearly got garrision of us.

It’s not other till the fat lady sings.

Riverside are still in it imo.

yiishing.9057:

Sunday afternoon is training day on Riverside. We develop new tactics, we answer questions from new players, we work on teamplay and communication.

I can assure you, we were not training turtle tactics. We are thinking offensively. Enjoy your keeps and towers, when training is over we usually go out and paint the map in our colors.

While we waited for everyone to show up, we fought OSC for a good one and a half hours with in epics fights.

You were there for over two hours, I don’t know if you’ve decided to move your carebear zerg and atually do something now, as i got too bored of waiting for you lot to make a move.

Maybe that’s your new tatic. Bore the opposition into leaving, paint the map your color and when we come back you go back into your corner

Btw, When was this push going be, I still see we have most the map? /yawn

Sad honestly. Riverside would rather have 40-50 players working on there turtles and portal tatics in there own corner of the map than fight. Only 10 FU guys in Riverside BL and 3 VOTF guys aswell have all 3 keeps in there and most objectives on the map.

Nergrom.7592:

Also, I don’t know if our own people are just dumb, or there are really spies out there wasting our supply on useless sieges in useless locations (we don’t need 4 trebs at godsword…). Just in case though, could you try and stop it on your ends if it is one of your guys? We’ll be willing to do the same to any SFR that are doing this to you.

A happy SFR hammer warrior

Was that the supply camp near hills, If so you can treb the hills from there, It’s a good spot to take down the north outer hills without the enemy noticing if they don’t check the keep, also can be defended if you have a decent group of people with the organisation.

Just had some epic fights between SFR and Riverside @ SFR Borderland, We were fighting at Greenvale Refuge near there spawn, where they were trebbing our inner. Pushed them back now to there spawn.

Very Tight with Kodash atm. Good fights in Angury Rock Borderland.

Cora, Looks like you need a restraining order.

We have 105 Members attending the meeting, From most Guilds in SFR.

TEAM SPEAK 3
IP: 195.95.158.120:9987
PASSWORD: qqmore

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