Guild Wars 2

Ayras.1543:

ricochett.5761:

Let me explain why removing flamekissed is a bad thing. I payed for 4000 gems(€).. 800 for the set, 350 total makeover and the rest exchanged for gold to craft a firebringer to match the set, that i bought on tp a new set to keep the old one, bought another 6. Superior Rune of traveler. If i dont like the new set my account stays all messed up. am i the only one with this problem?

I have 2 elementalist, i have your problem. I used 800 for set, 350×2 total makeoverkit, crafted 2 incinerator skin based, bought 6 traveler, new set, and new sigils

OUCH!!!!! guess you wont spend real money any more YIKES! i thought i had it bad.. Im only gonna lose about 120g on my t3 i feel SUPER bad for you m8!

BazeDragon.3927:

hchadw.1097:

Planetside 2 has made lots of changes if you want a break from all this drama check it out.. its like an FPS MMORPG i think thats what im gonna do. Anet mods are going nuts right now.. must be orders from the top…. (Delete posts that make us look bad) careful Anet trolls are out! :-)

Uh, take out the RPG part. I doubt PSide2 will appeal to a fair portion of the community. Defiance or Firefall may be more to their tastes. But lets not go to advertising other games here yet. Might get us in trouble.

nope not advertising at all.. just would love to see some of my gw2 mates in ps2.. god knows i have brought over a bunch of PS2 players to this game.. yet Sony has yet to get mad about that.. anet so sensitive these days.. must be all the hate :-)

Manda D Ulin.2367:

Morinmeth.9823:

This. Unfortunately, Arenanet is just following what the community asks for. It’s not the company’s problem, trying to please the customers, the problem is that the customers are… well, don’t get me started.

The real problem is a minor section of the community cried and now another section of the community is starting to find out about it but only after Anet sided with the prior.

Yes and if you say anything that even targets that said group in anyway anet will delete your post and give you warning so becareful what you say mods are watching this thread like crazy! things like QQers/Whiners may not be ok… someone may QQ or Whine about it! :-)

Planetside 2 has made lots of changes if you want a break from all this drama check it out.. its like an FPS MMORPG i think thats what im gonna do. Anet mods are going nuts right now.. must be orders from the top…. (Delete posts that make us look bad) careful Anet trolls are out! :-)

Dreamtrip.6093:

ANet has their job cut out for them.

1 Get a new skin that satisfies everyone that bought the skin.

2 If people don’t like it they have even more work:
– Give people their gems back, if it was gifted, they will have to find out who the person was who gifted the set to give them their gems back.
– Give the people that dont want the new skin their old skins back.

Seems a lot of work just to satisfy a group of complainers.

So very True… this keeps up the only people left that play the game are gonna be the ones that are always afk in LA with all their prestigious and legendary equipment with no one to play with .. they they will have to try to do a late save for the game with Hero/mercenary NPC’s to add to your party just to keep the game alive just like in gw1….. this does not bode well for the future hehe. oh well! GL HF!

Well i guess im going to bed now.. I got a silly infraction point for saying unpopular things about Anet. I think they have finally sealed the deal in the No More Money from Me coffin after that little P.M. Pffft to many people are so super sensitive these days.
And to think i bought 2 copies of this game …. the horror!
Well anet muscle has been flexed in my direction im off to bed before they give me another infraction point for telling the truth.. i know it hurts… but hey… little pain never hurt anyone

Berelious.3290:

hchadw.1097:

Berelious.3290:

hchadw.1097:

Berelious.3290:

So now one portion of the community has essentially walked off with another portions spent assets… Thanks for nothing guys. I’m sure there will be lots of people who will appreciate you immensely for that.

all they did was hurt themselves…..i know i wont be spending cash in this game anymore, and i imagine im not the only one now….. the incentive to drop any cash on this game for me now has we Swoosh… Gone.. They keep it up theres gonna be even More ghost towns in this game … to many new things coming out and players are migrating to other MMORPGS… thats what the REAL GW2 migration thing is starting to look like

I’m afraid I can’t agree with you. ANet isn’t the one that raised the roof when the armor skins came out, a good portion of the community is to blame for that.

yes and it was their choice to side with that portion of the community… so if you agree with me/us or not still doesnt change the fact … Anet got bullied by one portion of the community and burned another… thats a fact even YOU cant deny!

Oh I’m not denying it. I’m simply picking a far better target to be angry at. ANet is only guilty of trying to please their customers. I’m angry at the customers who raised the roof.

True True…the community QQers didnt help either but this makes one wander whos game this is.. Anets or a bunch of babies that feel like the Leet-E-thugness is under direct threat! Nice to know that Anet doesnt make the important decisions,, they let the real pros… the gamers decide :-)

Berelious.3290:

hchadw.1097:

Berelious.3290:

So now one portion of the community has essentially walked off with another portions spent assets… Thanks for nothing guys. I’m sure there will be lots of people who will appreciate you immensely for that.

all they did was hurt themselves…..i know i wont be spending cash in this game anymore, and i imagine im not the only one now….. the incentive to drop any cash on this game for me now has we Swoosh… Gone.. They keep it up theres gonna be even More ghost towns in this game … to many new things coming out and players are migrating to other MMORPGS… thats what the REAL GW2 migration thing is starting to look like

I’m afraid I can’t agree with you. ANet isn’t the one that raised the roof when the armor skins came out, a good portion of the community is to blame for that.

yes and it was their choice to side with that portion of the community… so if you agree with me/us or not still doesnt change the fact … Anet got bullied by one portion of the community and burned another… thats a fact even YOU cant deny!

Berelious.3290:

So now one portion of the community has essentially walked off with another portions spent assets… Thanks for nothing guys. I’m sure there will be lots of people who will appreciate you immensely for that.

all they did was hurt themselves…..i know i wont be spending cash in this game anymore, and i imagine im not the only one now….. the incentive to drop any cash on this game for me now has we Swoosh… Gone.. They keep it up theres gonna be even More ghost towns in this game … to many new things coming out and players are migrating to other MMORPGS… thats what the REAL GW2 migration thing is starting to look like

Leo Paul.1659:

Nanoko.1850:

customer support got back to me, they will not be offering a way to get back an old T3 skin, if you want it back after the change, you will have to rebuy the skin. the only thing that will be offered is the refund of 800 gems and an automatic reskin when the new one is put in.

Thank you crusaders and anet, you just screwed people out of even more gold.

Oh, that is just unfortunate… The only time I tried to support Anet and they respond with this. LOL I will never have your back again Anet.

Wow in that case i guess im gonna get 800 gems back…. guess no cash spent in this game anymore since they clearly dont have control over their own content and are now the cause me to loose both my Old and New T3…. .. Pffft

Gonna play and get the free stuff for now on… we cant win in SkinWars2

Berelious.3290:

hchadw.1097:

Khallis.5708:

Nanoko.1850:

its not selfish expecting that ganathar, it was anets fault they decided to release the skins they did, BUT, the crusade worked, the skin is gone and they will probably never release another t3 skin. However, people did spend the money, anet should not be taking the skin for the people that did get it within the short time it was up.

this, my wife is actually quite kitten ed because she loves the look of this gear she bought it as soon as soon as she saw it. now that they are talking about taking away she is upset.

maybe those that bought the skin should go on a crusade like the brats did to get this removed to give those that BOUGHT a skin a voice.

yeah i think most are prolly about ready to tell anet to play the Skin-Flute!

ANet isn’t completely at fault in this. Don’t forget this would never have happened if certain members of the community hadn’t had a bunch of cows, kittens, puppies, and a conniption for good measure.

True not Completely at fault, but now they just look incompetent which IMO is worse.
which is why they need to try their best to make everyone happy and not just do exactly what one group is requesting.

Should look for a way to make everyone happy, Those that want it keep it, those that want to change it can, those that want to keep the exclusivity of the classic vintage one. Mabe give those that bought the t3 human armor gold equal to the value in transmutation stones, i dunno im just spitting out ideas?

Khallis.5708:

Nanoko.1850:

its not selfish expecting that ganathar, it was anets fault they decided to release the skins they did, BUT, the crusade worked, the skin is gone and they will probably never release another t3 skin. However, people did spend the money, anet should not be taking the skin for the people that did get it within the short time it was up.

this, my wife is actually quite kitten ed because she loves the look of this gear she bought it as soon as soon as she saw it. now that they are talking about taking away she is upset.

maybe those that bought the skin should go on a crusade like the brats did to get this removed to give those that BOUGHT a skin a voice.

yeah i think most are prolly about ready to tell anet to play the Skin-Flute!

RedSpectrum.1975:

Keeping this on topic with the OP’s thread title about this armor not being exclusive, I sorry but I have to say that the "exclusive: factor is far from a valid excuse to not like the armor that -used- to be there. What was so exclusive about an armor you literally saw every three seconds? Everyone practically already had it, so I didn’t see why anyone else shouldn’t have it. Same with the HCT3 Medium. I saw a sylvari today in the falekissed armor and it was honestly one of the most gorgeous things I have ever seen. But now that’s finished. Value? I can see that argument, but uniqueness? That went out the window as soon as you picked a human female light armor class to begin with. Because most generally go toward the same armor sets whether it be whole or mix and match.

So true… basically Light armor choices was 16th century prostitute, to 20th century prostitute, to 21st Century Prostitute on fire. LoLz

Mnemon.6205:

hchadw.1097:

Im not saying that im anymore correct than anyone, or feel that i am. Just stating the facts..

Facts are some of us used this on expensive armor WE spent time and money on, But according to your logic our time and money shouldnt matter, Only the Code of Honorable Elitist Attitudes are right in all this.. when a good majority are people that are gonna get shafted if a group gets done right. Value is really only in the eye of the beholder. If i can make 50 Gold faster than you … i dont value gold as much as you so therefore, I should be shafted? your argument still dosnt make all that much sense…………….. a little but not much.

Once again, not elitist. My issues with this are a matter of access, which wasn’t equal (and the price diff). It’s not about e-thug points, it’s about fairness. ANet made it unfair to people who wanted that skin and got it, though some of them can write it off a lot more easily than others. ANet’s solution now isn’t very fair either, but short of them giving everyone open access to cultural armor now, this is not going to be resolved neatly in any way, and this way honors their longstanding previous attitude (“grind for it nugget”) the best.

It still looks like a hasty takeback on something they may have thought we’d let slip entirely though!

I get what ur saying… so hard to open a can of worms and then put the top back on :-)
I guess i just feel a little less offended at it than most.. I already had T3, sure.. I felt a little Argh really t3 on gemstore when i first seen it after what i went through to get mine and trans it over.. but i guess i got over it quicker than most and said.. Hey thats pretty i want that..

I always had a beef with the human T3 cause you could dye the Pants Jewels Different from the Main portion of the legs so i was more than happy to apply that skin and spend my gems on it .

I get the reasons for the outcrying and such but cant understand how and why people act like someone just ran there favorite dog when they see people get things nice.

I Mean really if this community is so concerned about looking prestigious and unique… how come everybody is running around with the same legendary Greatsword..
I see so many i myself am sick of em and dont even want one just so i can look different.

Just feels like they are listening to a bunch of people that all have the same weps and armor screaming about being unique when they all look the same anyways. Its like cutting your nose off to spite your face..

Just dont make no sense at all!

Soulmyr.8094:

I’m glad they listened to majority of the community and I’m sure they will find a solution for people who put the skin on their existing t3.

I hope your right. … I would much rather play this game and enjoy it than to play Support Ticket Tag with support and try to get this fixed…After the Mine Pick issue i want a break from support tag and play my game in PEACE!!!

I do think i understand why i spend most of my time playing this game alone… Community seems like it has a Bipolar complex at times!

Mnemon.6205:

hchadw.1097:

Oh great now we have people saying because Im not mad i cant do math. About it being a T3 human <—-T3 owner myself …. …..yet i wasnt upset, those of us that dont care about the MMORPG elite-E-Thugness dont really care about cost/Rareness. I spent the gold on the T3…
I spent the gold on the transtones to convert it to Exotic….

Yet i was not mad about the release of the flamekiss T3 Clone… I bought it and upgraded my T3 Human look as soon as it was released.

It’s your money/time – if you don’t feel cheated about the price shift that’s your prerogative, but it doesn’t make your stance on it any more correct. Some of us do feel cheated about that, and people attacking those who feel ripped off look just as selfish being dismissive of that as they accuse us of being.

Also I don’t know about other people, but when I say ‘exclusive’ what I mean isn’t ‘look how much cooler I am than you’, it’s ‘do you have to go through the trouble of making another character to use this’. I originally wanted to make a norn character first off, but once I saw HT3 I had to have it, so it was human for me. Basically my character choice and gameplay since I got the game was guided by eventually getting my pulp fantasy ish armor…which then I find is devalued. I totally have a right to be angry because of that. I will note though, that it doesn’t mean I want to screw over the other players. It’s pretty unfortunate that the current solution is the one ANet is going with, but at the same time they have their integrity to maintain with their own policy.

I honestly do sympathize with the people who like the look and also feel cheated, not to mention the ones who are going to be potentially screwed out of other nice gear they reskinned over…but it’s really hard to keep ahold of that sympathy with the bratty spoiled-princess doesn’t-matter-what-the-others-lose-I-want-mine show I’m seeing in this thread and others. Those people are just mirroring the very attitude they claim to despise. Lol hypocrisy?

Im not saying that im anymore correct than anyone, or feel that i am. Just stating the facts..

Facts are some of us used this on expensive armor WE spent time and money on, But according to your logic our time and money shouldnt matter, Only the Code of Honorable Elitist Attitudes are right in all this.. when a good majority are people that are gonna get shafted if a group gets done right. Value is really only in the eye of the beholder. If i can make 50 Gold faster than you … i dont value gold as much as you so therefore, I should be shafted? your argument still dosnt make all that much sense…………….. a little but not much.

I just don’t understand this Value people keep mentioning…. From what i understand once you equip something you can no longer sell it so ……………. the armor really doesnt have a said value once used…… so…… hmmmm ……. cant see valid point…. I chose myself to take my own T3 human and copy over it with this new Lovely Re-skin of my Vintage T3………

I must say i will be VERY VERY speculative about anymore Gemstore purchases… and a very likely low rate of me spending ANY real money in this game in the future if i end losing both my T3 and my new Flame T3.

mabe anet should call some of the old devs back from gw1… it was moving in a good direction… this one seems to move backwards alot.

Substance E.4852:

Morinmeth.9823:

I had tier 3 human cultural on my human elementalist, female. As soon as I saw the gem armor, I was really happy. I thought hey, my favourite armor in the game, now available to EVERYONE, with some cool-looking effects on it, too! Instead of being a kitten about “how exclusive and human-only this armor should be”, I said “thank you arenanet for making my elementalist look even more awesome, have my ten bucks”.

I am not as selfish as the majority of the community here. I prefer saying thank you, instead of “this skin is wrong”. In fact, if more t3 cultural armors would be remade, with extra animations (icy ones for the norn t3 heavy, electricity for asuras, etc), it would be freaking awesome. I don’t care if I have to pay gems or gold for it. I don’t care about who wears what. They’re skins. SKINS. Come on. You’re not gonna be paying attention to the skin while killing people in WvW or PvP, you just want the skin to look cool in Lion’s Arch!

But no, just because this community is selfish as hell, Arenanet are following what pleases their customers. And unfortunately, for them it’s the right decision. But I just want to add, that I just officially dislike this community a lot.

I really hope the new Flamekissed armor is awesome, because if it ain’t, I want my previous armor back.

Lol it’s like you people just can’t do basic math and comprehend the fact that it cost 1/3 the price of T3 armor.

Go through every post here and tally up the posts that complain about “exclusivity” and the ones pointing out how its the same armor for a fraction for the cost and I bet you you won’t find more folks complaining that other races can have the humans’ armor and a lot more people complaining about how their armor just droped in value by a whole lot because anet thought it should only be worth 60g after all.

Telling people they just have to deal with the items they earned dropping in value because you want something for cheap is also pretty kitten selfish and really eroding the sympathy I have for people who are having to deal with losing an armor they like.

Oh great now we have people saying because Im not mad i cant do math. About it being a T3 human <—-T3 owner myself …. …..yet i wasnt upset, those of us that dont care about the MMORPG elite-E-Thugness dont really care about cost/Rareness. I spent the gold on the T3…
I spent the gold on the transtones to convert it to Exotic….

Yet i was not mad about the release of the flamekiss T3 Clone… I bought it and upgraded my T3 Human look as soon as it was released.

Cathgar.7581:

Spawne.3128:

Cathgar.7581:

Spawne.3128:

Cathgar.7581:

angelpaladin.7921:

Cathgar.7581:

Spawne.3128:

angelpaladin.7921:

what I am reading people would prefer to get what they want now at the cost of the entire game tomorrow. Thats what this boils down to upset a few thousand people who bought the armor now or end up losing credibility with the majority of the community.

I feel like a broken record but you guys sound like broken records also. Think about this on a much larger skill not just me and you. They let this slide why would people have any incentive to do anything? People’s trust in arena.net is already shaky because of the fractals update where people lost progression. People are fuming over the living story and scarlet. Adding this to the mix could easily destroy the game over the next few months.

trust me, a few thousand people did not buy this armor, maybe a couple hundred, and maybe less then 100 of them are actually complaining about getting a refund.

Lol @ a couple of hundred.

Most likely it will be around a few 100 I was being generous with my figure. How many people do you really think play the game? How many people do you think logged in on the one day it was available? The armor was not even on the store for 24hr’s. Assuming there where (I am being crazy generous) 15-20k people who logged in over the course of the armor being available. How many people do you think really bought that armor? Where hearing the very vocal minority who are upset the armor is being removed.

Without any figures, no one will know except ANET as to how many sold and it is also a minority of T3 owners that are complaining as well.

The only thing I can see for certain is that for the entire day today, ive only seen ONE person wearing this armor in all of lions arch.

Seen a lot on Tarnished Coast and a lot of people complaining that it has been removed from store in game chat.

Well my server (northern shiverpeaks) is probably significantly smaller, only complaints i saw about armor were in regards to someone who linked the asceneded armor, in particular the “wupwup” sets.

At one point on TC, there was even a lineup of players with flameseeker in front of TP as people wanted to see what was taken out of store.

<—-Existing Human T3 owner speaking here (Because it looks good)

I bought it myself to copy over my old T3 armor ….. so what answer is there for me ? im in a Lose/Lose situation.

Spawne.3128:

Sabyne.6329:

If so few people bought it and that it has now been removed. I don’t quite see what would be the problem of letting the people who bought it keep it. Chances are, there are so few of them you won’t even see it in game most of the time.

That would be far too logical lol

Exactly +1 this! Let us keep what we got and happily put out another WvW/Karma Flameclone.

Otherwise i fear im gonna be in a Lost Original T3 human armor and Lost New Flame T3 armor cause thats what i used it on… Existing Human T3!

Cathgar.7581:

angelpaladin.7921:

Cathgar.7581:

Spawne.3128:

angelpaladin.7921:

what I am reading people would prefer to get what they want now at the cost of the entire game tomorrow. Thats what this boils down to upset a few thousand people who bought the armor now or end up losing credibility with the majority of the community.

I feel like a broken record but you guys sound like broken records also. Think about this on a much larger skill not just me and you. They let this slide why would people have any incentive to do anything? People’s trust in arena.net is already shaky because of the fractals update where people lost progression. People are fuming over the living story and scarlet. Adding this to the mix could easily destroy the game over the next few months.

trust me, a few thousand people did not buy this armor, maybe a couple hundred, and maybe less then 100 of them are actually complaining about getting a refund.

Lol @ a couple of hundred.

Most likely it will be around a few 100 I was being generous with my figure. How many people do you really think play the game? How many people do you think logged in on the one day it was available? The armor was not even on the store for 24hr’s. Assuming there where (I am being crazy generous) 15-20k people who logged in over the course of the armor being available. How many people do you think really bought that armor? Where hearing the very vocal minority who are upset the armor is being removed.

Without any figures, no one will know except ANET as to how many sold and it is also a minority of T3 owners that are complaining as well.

That is what i was hoping .. I think im in that minority .. it didnt bother me one bit and i went through the trouble myself to get T3 then trans it over to Exotic. I was like Cool ill upgrade my look…… now because of some QQing…. i cant… im gonna lose both my old T3 and my new. I was excited i was like mabe next they will redo the norn Cultural. i would buy that for my human.. cause the norn outfits look more rangerish.

Guess that dream will die now.. oh well!

Caffynated.5713:

One more time for those who are a little slow.

When you created your character, there were 3 major aspects for why you chose the race that you did:

1. Overall appearance of the race
2. Racial abilities
3. Racial armor

Many humans (myself included) chose human over other races because we like the racial armor and being human was the only way to acquire that appearance. I would have rather made a norn with their more attractive faces, superior hairstyles and OP racial abilities if I could have had the same overall appearance with the same armor.

Fast forward 15 months.

ANet: We’re releasing human armor for everybody!
Humans: … Erm… what do we get?
ANet: You get to buy it too!
Humans: … I already have it… as my exclusive racial armor… for more than twice as much…
ANet: But now it has FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Humans: So now everyone can use our cultural armor, but we can’t use their’s?
ANet: DUDE!!! IT HAS FIRE ON IT!!! IT’S LITERALLY ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!
Humans: Yeah… about tha
ANet: FIRE!!! Did you get your burn on? Bros know when they get their burn on.
Humans: I guess…
ANet: No, bro. Bros know. BBBBBUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNN!!!
Humans: kitten you

One more time for those of us that are Slower than us Regular Slow people.

We dont care.. I have a human as well.. I spent all that gold on getting my Human T3.. I bought this and was happy to copy this over my current T3. I was not offended or mad in anyway that it was able to be purchased on the Gemstore…

I was actually hoping this would lead to other Cultural crossovers. Im happy i have this new Flame T3 to replace my old Boring T3. Im one of the few i think that was not at all mad that Human T3 Exclusive armor was on the Gemstore.

I want to myself keep what i bought. I already owned T3 human and used this to update it. Im happy and now im gonna lose my Old T3 and My new T3. GRRRRRRR

What we REALLY should be asking is Why isnt T3 Exotic… Now that i think about it … seems like no long term thought goes into anything anymore in this game.

<quote>Rialen.1524:

This entire situation is an outrage. Both the creation and release, and the proposed solution are extremely unprofessional.

-snip for space-

For those who purchased the T3 Human skin, their armor will remain slightly devalued, an unfortunate outcome of a poor decision made by Arena Net. No solution will completely rectify this wrong, but the current proposed solution only harms the entirety of another party. Arena Net needs to take responsibility concerning this substandard decision and their devaluation of one party, and not in-turn devalue another.</quote>

I prefer your idea. Let us keep it if we Bought it and mabe put another (Ooops We messed up Exchange NPC in the black lion building just like the (Ooops we Messed up Gather Tools Guy.. or heck use him .. make him the Anet OOOPS support NPC to exchange Messups! LoLz

angelpaladin.7921:

I am not trying to be rude but a little common since would have gone a really long way. Common since says that them releasing a tier 3 remake on the ah would not fly. It’s kinda hard to feel bad for people when they really have no one to blame but them selfs for not using some common since.

This reminds me of a few years back when Dell (I think it was dell) listed a monitor for 15.99 instead of the real price of 159.99. There where people who had to wait over a week to get a refund. Common since told them the company made a mistake. I don’t really see how this is any different it was a poor mistake at that but common since we need more of it I think.

Im not trying to be rude but .. now my common sense tells me not to purchase anything from anet anymore. And according to your.. what i like to refer to as kitten-Logic (by no means calling anyone that) just a reference to how someone comes to an incorrect conclusion based on faulty logic.(like i should use common sense when purchase something) Expect to keep it and enjoy it. Yet this is not the case, How was i supposed to know that people where to run with pitch forks at anet about the human T3 fiasco.. ..

I myself AM a proud Human T3 owner yet i was not upset at the fact my armor was on the Gemstore.. I was actually thinking WOW this would be nice to replace my current T3 with and would be happy to have access to a few others that i cant get on each other race. Again i worked hard for my Human T3 yet i was not upset that anyone else could get it.. its darn nice looking armor.

I tried not to be rude

Your argument is a bird.

It was on the gemstore … i purchased it. using common sense that so far all the armor i have bought has not magically changed on me into something else

Sylv.5324:

TheDaiBish.9735:

How is ‘being allowed to keep it or have a refund if you’re not happy’ not fair compensation?

Giving folks transmutation splitters on a case by case basis would be a start; there are folks who reskinned over parts of their tier armor or other expensive skins, and if the new version is not to their liking, they are borked. (I know several people who are stuck this way.) And if it’s a third-generation reskin (one set reskinned over with another and then with the flame set) a splitter will revert it back to the first version and the other will be lost for good.

From what i understand thats the boat im in.. I bought human T3 about 8-9 months ago…. Transmuted it to Exotic armor… then when this came out yesterday i bought it and copied it over my Current Human T3 armor….. im really borked!!!!!

Im about ready for skins to be account bound.. Anet account bounds crap that makes no sense and then does not account bound things that CLEARLY need to be!

Or mabe do like legendaries..(the Dble click change stats could mabe be dble click on skinned weps the change skin) if you have applied a skin to a weapon.. let us Double click it and change the skin to any that have been used on the weapon/armor? or is this not possible?

Or put the skins in the account pane so they can be reused or taken off at will. something has to change/give!

angryangel.8541:

I find it pretty sad that you’re going to put something into the gem store that clearly wasn’t very well thought through, let people purchase it and then take it from them because of a generalized uproar. I agree that it was a good idea to pull the skin from the gem store, because obviously a lot of people were unhappy with it, but changing the skin of those people that have already purchased it is a poor decision. Refunding the gems does not make it any better, either. People have spent money on armor, runes and dye to make those skins work for them – are you going to refund that, too? I doubt it. The skin was a bad decision, accept it, and be done with it. Don’t make it any worse than it already is. Let the people that have purchased the skin keep it, and let that be the end of it. Give them the option to change it to the new, re-vamped skin if they so choose, but don’t force it upon them. After all, this was your mistake, Anet – not your customers’. They spent their money/gold on gems to purchase the skin. Let them have it. I know I, for my part, will otherwise be very careful about spending money on any other skins in the future, because who knows if I will get to hold on to them.

Wow you just said word for word exactly what i feel right now.. I think im gonna log out and go play some Americas Army Proving Grounds or some Planetside 2… I for some reason just dont feel like any more SkinWars 2 tonight!

Oh Dear.. thats messed up.. thats exactly what i did
I transmuted my T3 to exotics a while back when i made it was rather expensive.. now i feel like im gonna get doubly kittened!

I am sad now.. but not for me.. if this goes south and I end up in a lose/lose (as in new armor looks bad and stuck with crappy looking reskin and no way to get my t3 back) i just might not make any gemstore purchases for a while… till it comes out of beta!

heres my dilemma…. I already owned Human T3 armor on my necro…. I bought this Human T3 Skin from the Gemstore and copied over my current human T3 because i thought it was cooler. I didnt see anything about this out cry on cultural armor… me frankly i dont care about it myself…

My question is i understand from what the dev says you can get a refund for the armor if you dislike the look… but how do i get my old T3 armor look back if i dont like the new Flamekissed Light ?

I personally bought this to make my old T3 Look cooler with effects. so now im gonna lose my T3 human armor look and the New T3 armor i reskined my old T3 with.

Are they going to provide me with a transmute splitters so i can remove the flamekissed T3 skin off my current T3 Human armor so atleast dont lose that, or can i keep the current T3 Skin.

Basically i wanna keep my T3 Flameskin.. I put on my own T3 i didnt mind paying the 68g to upgrade my t3 look! Gold is easy to make in this game.

Im a Human T3 Owner thats not mad about this but yet now I feel like im going to now lose my Old T3 Armor Look and my New T3 Armor look.

This is starting to feel like SkinWars 2

Mabe now would be a good time to have (Everybody skins) that anyone can use and (cultural skins) that fit only the culture.

Redenaz.8631:

Something worth noting about overflows: If you’re in a party with someone on an overflow and you’re both in the same zone, you (or they) can click on a character portrait in the party lineup and choose to join them to be warped to their overflow. If their overflow is full and you can’t get in, you can just reverse the process and have them pile into your overflow.

That’s how guilds can stack all their members in the same overflow: They just have volunteers take party members temporarily to form a sort of shuttle service.

I agree that it’s a lot clunkier than the GW1 district system, although it’s a bit of a hazy comparison, since GW1 didn’t have Worlds like GW2 does. Since GW1 instanced all zones for parties, there wasn’t a need for a traditional Server/World system, which GW2 definitely does need, both for WvW and for persistent, player-independent zones.

Thanks for the tip, i already new this but again ty for attempting to help. Again still i dont understand why we cant have districts we can choose. Feel very random if i can get friends into same instance, guildmembers, etc.

Last night did a teq and within 2 mins the overflow i was in filled up and i had a few of my friends Exit the zone on the same server and manually enter the zone just to get in because they COULDNT join on my name. Why are we having to resort to glitches just to get together in an event?…

I forgot.. game relies on glitches… mabe change it to Glitch Wars ?

I would like to see this Random Overflow nonsense to stop. How come gw1 had districts and the second one doesn’t? So people can organize, Right now its very hard to get even my own friends into an instance to fight him together. How about Overflow 1 Overflow2 Overflow3.. sort of like gw1 districts are

So people have an actual place to go meet to do this Team event! Right now its random chance you can even get with all your friends with how this overflow system is setup.

Redenaz.8631:

Like I said, people complain about it being abandoned during primetime, and that’s a valid complaint. I’m specifically talking about how it being abandoned during off-hours for a server’s timezone is exactly what I’d expect from timed events with any serious amount of difficult.

It might seem weird for an event to trigger every couple of hours when there aren’t players around for it, but that’s how the dynamic event system works, for better or worse. Some events, like the Megadestroyer, have pre-events that keep them from starting if players aren’t around, but, frankly, I’d rather have Tequatl ravage the coastline on off-hours than to make organizing a Tequatl run even more complicated by adding in a pre-event.

I get that, what im talking about is the difficulty or the amount of people required to defeat it is to high. It dosnt scale for lower groups, ya know that system Anet brags about that the game can be fun for any number of players… Apply that logic to the current teq fight and its an out right Lie!

Most times even in prime time seems no one is doing it on my sever. The 5 times i have killed teq have been on someone else’s server instead of my OWN home server. That in itself shows just how broke it is, i shouldnt have to guest to another server to hit an event, guesting should be optional, NOT a prerequisite just to complete an event!

Redenaz.8631:

3:30PM EST (or as early as 12:30PM server time) on a business/school day is hardly gaming primetime in North America.

I’ve heard complaints about servers that are empty during primetime, and those are totally fair, but I’d be absolutely shocked if there was a sufficient group doing it at noon/afternoon on Friday. That’s just something that’s bound to happen with events on constant timers, and it doesn’t say anything meaningful about the popularity of the event.

I have attempted it at all times just to let you know. 4pm 5pm 6pm 7pm people start showing up cause reset is around the corner. still bad I find 8pm till midnight then forget till next day until reset… Horrible odds i have had the last 2 weeks :-)

4 hours roughly in a 24 hour period leaves 20 hours for an event to run/fail/run/fail/run fail… get the picture ?

I have to say this event needs a rework. I have been in guested servers to beat this dragon and get all the achievements for it, so really i have no desire to ever attempt this again. Its not that its boring, i love the changes they made to the fight. But this event now requires a zerg to kill and seems to not scale for off peak times. Seems to me you have to kill teq within a couple of hours of reset and then he is pretty much ignored till the next reset.

This is a world event and not a dungeon event. Anet needs to look at this and change this event up. I have spent the last 2 weeks trying Teq out on many different servers. JQ/BG/SoR/SoS just to name a few. Seems the Teq Defeats have occured for me mostly on Overflows. So people seem to having to us a gimmic to get in an overflow with a couple of large organized guilds in order to have a chance to kill Teq. This is not the way a world event should be intended to function. Reminds me of the days of Syncing in GW1 for an unfair advantage. (if you dont know look it up)

I love the fight, it feels epic, and less like a loot pinata but the fact is the event seems almost impossible on low pop servers and to me and many in my guild not worth even trying again till around reset. Is this the path all world events/dragons are headed? If so i fear my favorite MMO maybe headed down a dark and dangerous path of ending up like gw1 did.

Ghost towns in 90% of the game and the other 10% stayed in the most profitable zones, dont make the same mistake you made in your first game!

Again, Love the direction of Teq and can see it making all the events fun, but if the event is this hard to complete maybe it should have been an instanced or guild mission type thing. A Dynamic event that happens every 1-1.5 hours failing over and over, surly Anet has logs of this and this should be a sign the event needs some sort of tweaking.

The event seems like it does not scale anymore, is this true?
So this event takes no less than 80 or so players to beat it?

Also another thing that bugs me and im fully expecting a flame fest for this and i think the Dev was wrong to do this when she streamed, felt to me like it was promotion of players not to work together in an event designed for players to work together!

Why for in a team based game does it seem everyone including Anet wants people to work together to complete a goal but Rezing a fellow Teammate seems to not be common practice. You put the ability to res people when downed in this game. If its not effective to rez people and tell them to simply way point, Why on earth did you put it in the game?

If its not effective, do your job and make it effective instead of throw it off on a way point so you can make the community burn up gold on wp fees.

yeah not to mention you have to camp and wait on teq for an hour just to get in to have a chance to beat him. If all the events end up with changes like this, mine as well call the game Guild Waits 2 instead of Guild Wars 2

Feel the same way would love it on my necro but i have 5 moltens on 5 of my 6 characters. I would love to buy this one and put it on my necro and move my molten to my newly created toon. Then i would buy this one. This soul bound on things like Mining Tools is kinda a pain. would be nice to use tools amongst my toons. when i use my hammer or shovel at home it isnt soulbound to me i can still loan it out to my neighbors.. let me loan my tools GEEZE!

Ravious.4269:

I would totally pick up the bone pick for my necro but for the soulbound molten pick that is attached to her.

I would love to drop money on this but my necro the character i want it for has already gotten the molten alliance pick. Cant see myself Destroying 30 gold to spend 30 gold on something i already bought for 5 other characters. Would be nice to have an option to update the skin i already own or a way to move this Molten pick to another toon and by this bone one for my necro. Can we Unsoulbound the Pics/Axes/Harvesters if you are gonna be releasing a new skin/animation for it every 6 months. Would be so nice to use this on my necro as i said but already purchased 5 moltens the last time round!

I would love to drop money on this but my necro the character i want it for has already gotten the molten alliance pick. Cant see myself Destroying 30 gold to spend 30 gold on something i already bought for 5 other characters. Would be nice to have an option to update the skin i already own or a way to move this Molten pick to another toon and by this bone one for my necro. Can we Unsoulbound the Pics/Axes/Harvesters if you are gonna be releasing a new skin/animation for it every 6 months. Would be so nice to use this on my necro as i said but already purchased 5 moltens the last time round!

I would love to drop money on this but my necro the character i want it for has already gotten the molten alliance pick. Cant see myself Destroying 30 gold to spend 30 gold on something i already bought for 5 other characters. Would be nice to have an option to update the skin i already own or a way to move this Molten pick to another toon and by this bone one for my necro. Can we Unsoulbound the Pics/Axes/Harvesters if you are gonna be releasing a new skin/animation for it every 6 months. Would be so nice to use this on my necro as i said but already purchased 5 moltens the last time round!

Have a way to deal with Turret Trolls, Afkers, and make condition builds and the ability to crit a world boss viable and then we can talk tactics until them teq for me and many of my friends and guild mates will be set on /ignore. Anet didnt think this through all the way. I love the direction they are Trying to head in (note i said TRYING) but this just feels like no after thought has gone into the other things in this game that are broke. People with condi builds are MORE useless now, people with crit build with effects the happen when they crit like remove conditions etc, are useless , from what im looking at seems i have to purchase new gear on 6 characters to participate in an event once a day that has a 98% chance of failing… no thank you anet fails again. Fix or it gets ignored i promise you that! (Escpecially once the newness wears off no one will do it for weapon skins with modes anet deems useless so they have no problem giving them as rewards.) I can craft Ascended weps, why would i want a poor chance at a teq skinned ascended wep with crap stats anet ignores like conditions. Just plain sillyness!

Condition builds still broke, Anet promotes Zerker/Power builds, they want events to fail and people to not make so much gold so they will be forced to pay cash for gems to convert to gold so they can make more money. GW1 had style, had more common sense, and more dedication. GW2 is starting to feel like a cheap grab for as much gem money as they can get and careless about the player base. This attitude and model keeps up they will have to set all the events to easy mode in a few years cause no one will be playing this game. I played GW1 scince beta and still do today. GW2 im starting to fall out of love with cause of the devs ignoring core issues in the game that still havnt been fixed. I myself like many people and guildmembers are just going to skip teq for more rewarding, less buggy, less troll worthy content and teq in a few weeks or months will become an empty event, till they go back and fix it. I love the direction they are trying to head in, but simply put.. BAD implementation and no consideration on what else is broke in this game that needs fixing. Just look at the priorities.. they Release Teq a new Hard World Content updated world boss that needs an organized team… before a fully working LFG tool for people to team up. Starting to feel anet devs are brain dead!

I just hope all the boss events they update and make more Fail-able get revamped rewards. I myself have avg hitting up to 30 boss event chests and 12 jumping puzzles a day for almost 6 months straight and have not had a precursor weapon drop. (very Rarely get anything else other than the daily Rare. And a chest full of Greens and Blues that are Salvage Fodder) If the Loot from these events are not spot on with the difficulty of the said events people will just ignore them. You would not believe the complaints i see in southsun about the karka queen event. Seems they put that event there to attract players to the zone but no one even does it cause the event seems to be difficult to complete. I love the changes i think they are awsome! But my 2 cents are “Careful how Team Oriented you try to make these events. One thing i have seen this game lack is Team work. I have seen many people run right past people that need to be resurrected” Teamwork has not been one of Guildwars 2 Strong points in PVE other than dungeons.. Open world means most have the right to Openly Not care!

And a Tip on the Mini Teq. Please dont make this reward Accountbound or soulbound. Would be nice to have some minis that could be sold, I sometimes feel Anet goes Way to far with the Accountbound/Soulbound Mindset. Makes the rewards worth even Less if someone already had 50 Balthazar Minis that we cant do anything with ~!!!!! if ya know what i mean!

Defiant Needs a rework or needs to go. Anet wants us to use more skills yet the bosses dont allow the use of these skills we are supposed to use. I have to aggree on the Defiant issue. Its broke, cheap and lazy way to deal with a design flaw. Give us a chance to use some of our Controls skills or just take them out the game all together! can anyone say God Mode… its practically what they gave the bosses.

Or better yet. Let me have the skill. lets see how fair that skill is when all the player base is using it!

Same happened to me twice last night. The first part with the room with he laser is a real pain. It stinks really badly to get a group together twice last night to do this dungeon and its still bugged. Do you guys actually play through your content before you release it? The last 3 months of content has been release Riddled with bugs. And oh Yeah Lyssa Event Union Point Way Point is still Broken, it spawns you half stuck in ground during lyssa event and you cant move. (I have reported this bug i know atleast 20 times with in game bug tool, does the bug report tool work ?) Instead of fixing the ape in the corner you add a champ one at the boss. Are you guys hiring testers. Do you have a beta server you test on. Please fix the dungeon and post when you have it fix. Otherwise me or my guild prolly will just simply ignore that dungeon till it gets fixed!

Tip: Quit using NPC’s as Core Items to open doors in dungeons seems they always seem to be what halts the dungeon when NPC gets bugged. I think we can handle door opening without a badly scripted path NPC!

And yes Kiel Stops walking up to the door halfway up. After you do the jump pad to go up top to open the door for her she develops A.D.D. and suddenly cant move anyomore.

Silentsins.3726:

Nike.2631:

Too many players participating on a daily basis is the kind of problem MMOs dream of having. I’m not so sure that shooting rewards in the head is a solution that’s really going to benefit ANet as much as maybe improving the stability of the events would have been.

It takes several hours just to work through the 12 bosses on the timer anyway. The people number of people who are capable of doing this with more than one character consistently are pretty much outliers. Honestly? A guaranteed 12 rares a day is still an enormous number. I don’t see how anyone could deride this change as a bad thing, or argue that abusing the Maw’s short timer on the current system is a good thing.

I have to say though i hope now they can work on the stability of some of these events that Lag, Skip, and random disconnect now. I was hoping they where not going to make any changes to guesting myself. Seems the 3-5 times i attempt large events like Jormag/Shatter/Teq i get disconnected before end of event with all my skills casting over and over.. mabe now these guys will work on this. Game needs more refinement now instead of nerfs.
So for me i love the guesting, keeps me from getting to mad at Anet when the events crash or are bugged for days on end and dont spawn. Nice to go to another server to do the events instead of waiting a week for a fix.

Thank you martin your help was appreciated! Thats what i wanted to know a final answer from a dev. Thanks again!

So i can use my 5 characters and kill jormag 5 different times and still have a chance at an exotic. But my next 4 characters that kill Jormag will only get greens with No chance of rare at all….

mabe that would be easier… let me know if i didnt ask this clear enough.

Sorry the clarification post wasnt clear enough for me.

Necro does jormag gets daily alloted rare.
Warrior does jormag = Does he only get greens?
Ranger does Jormag = She only get Greens?
Thief does Jormag = She only gets Greens?

thats what im asking. More clarification please

one more question too.. this statement here in your post

(You still have the chance to get pre-cursors/exotics/rares from the regular dragon chests every time you play an event)

Does this mean we can do the dragon chests more than once a day???

Sorry if these questions are a bit direct but a couple months ago you guys released soem patches and well… lets just say i moved to planetside2 for a while. Carefull with your rush to fix the overflow issues you dont work your game into a title that slowly loses its player base. I just started doing Events myself less than a week ago, FINALLY some good stuff i can use.

I wont knock the change till i play it, but tread carefully that you dont patch this into a Dead Ghost town MMO

Just wondering if i am reading this right. So For Example: I do Jormag on my home server. If i guest to a friends server to help i will have no chance at a rare on that character?
I think maybe some Clarification on what your trying to explain. cause it sounds like you Created the drops to be better for people and passively inspire us players to use our other characters. Your correction of the drop system has made me as a player use my other characters more. Your going to possibly Kill people’s Want to use ALT characters and basically Break what you just unbroke—->Deadzones where no players are playing. Because it seems better in this game to Rush a character to 80 and only do the things that give good loot. Your gonna Reduce the Community to only using 1 Character Per Account Per Day with this attitude. I have been playing Guildwars from Day 1… GW1 and GW2. I Remember hearing one of your Devs in one of your ABOUT guildwars type videos explain that if players want to run around and kill things and Farm you didnt want to get in the way of that….. Well guess what your going back on your word from the sound of this statement.

Or am i Wrong. This sounds like your going to limit the drops yet AGAIN! and cause more events to turn into ghost towns… your player base is going to do 1 Event 1 Time on 1 character. Yet again this game is being Nerfed into the ground just like the First Guildwars was. Trust me It got REALLY old in the first guildwars to spend time Hunting for Weapons, Skills, Bosses. Spend all that in game currency on items that are going to be DRASTICALLY changed in months to make them worthless… Almost feels like your Headed down the same path in this game.

If im wrong Please Explain More Clearly. But According to this it sounds to me like there is no need for me to play my other 5 lvl 80 characters anymore. Get the chest on all events with one character and let the others collect dust. Cause after lvl 80 there is no need for me as a player to do events just to get Green Crap for drops.

I believe you guys are making the wrong move!

I was wandering if it would be to difficult to put a tracking system in for bosses like Jormag or Frost maw. Sort of like the Daily Tracking System. It Really Stinks to use my Necro and kill Jormag, and a few hours later jormag pops again but i have done Many things with my other characters and cant tell which one did which boss. Then i participate in an event that i already have with a previous character and dont get chest.

You gather materials for daily
Can we not have a Jormag 100%
Frost Maw Killed 100%
Shatter Killed 100%

So we can keep track of what events we have done on each character. VERY VERY difficult when your jumping around different areas in the world, getting ready to get in a list of events that all kick off at different times, and cant remember which character killed which boss.

Anyone understand or relate ?

Thanks
Not complaining just think it would be a nice feature. So Very frustrating getting empty chests and doing DoH! Already killed this boss with this toon. Great now i gotta wait 3 more hours to do it again…………………………………. or guest… Which apparently is a bad word, people are so offended by it. Mabe this would help people track their OWN events on their OWN Servers better. We dont need timers. Just need a way to track it per character. since the chests are 1 Character Per Day, Sounds like its already being tracked, but how about some GUI love for us so we can see what we have done. :-)

Thanks! Sorry if this has been mentioned before.

RainbowSyrup.4130:

Does there really need to be 20+ threads like this everytime a major patch hits?

Do you really have to post in it ?

Feb 26th. It is 4:46 Pm Eastern Time USA. Seems the login portion of the Guildwars 2 Launcher just opens and says Connection Error. Every now and then it starts to download then stops and gives the same error. Did the update today end up breaking the game? Login Servers down, or to busy? Anyone else having this issue ????

I cant seem to get support to work. The page wont load in any browser. SO i spent some money with you guys to purchase a copy of the game for a friend. I get on today and see Guildwars 2 is on sale for $39.00. Was the billing not updated with the site. I swear when i submitted the purchase the text on the GW site said $39.99 and of course advertised for me to buy all kinds of other garbage i said NO too. When it was purchased it told me it was going to be $39.00 and it charged my CC $59.00. You companies make it hard to get in touch with someone when there is a problem, but yet very easy to take money. I want a PHONE number to contact you just like any other BUSINESS has!!!! can someone point me to a phone number to contact Anet. Cant seem to find it anywhere and many people are upset cause there seems to be NO direct way to get in touch with you guys. I feel like $20 was taken from me and i want everyone to know it. Someone Contact me ASAP. I have heard support through the Digital process with you guys takes weeks. WHO DO I CONTACT! it was purchased Directly through the Guildwars 2 Site. I own guildwars 2 myself and was purchasing it for a friend while it was on sale. Yet you guys STILL charged Me Full Price???