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man….ytf do people who play video games have to be so kittenn weird and ask for stuff like this?
like seriously….it’s a video game stop being a weird pervert.
You couldn’t have posted this in one of the many other duelling threads out there? Really?
probably. seems like he wanted to post in this one though.
so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?
I wouldn’t, because there’s actually a purpose to fighting a skritt other than bragging rights/trash talking/“look at me!”.
theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you
And there’s no reason that it should be implemented because of players like you. That’s what we call an impasse. All that’s left is for each of us to pray the developers come down on our side of the argument.
your group of is the only group thinking that every single person that duels is going to be this way….
i can think of a reason it should at least be considered. you on the other hand don’t have any reasons other than you dont want to see it or you dont want to be spammed with requests.
we’ve already proposed solutions to both of those problems…we are not at an impasse
so…….the fact that these people have to band together in the first place doesn’t indicate that they may have some issues with each other? they may fight about those issues.
i fight against separatists and flame legion all the time. this is not a good argument
like seriously…..nobody ever in the world would ever have a conflict that they would want to fight about but they go around killing perceived enemies all the time?
this is actually stupid
They “had” their differences (issues) in the past according to the lore, they have had to work them out and join forces for the good of Tyria according to the story.
Flame legion and separatists are just that, separate, as in working for the elder dragons be it directly or indirectly does not matter.
If conflict between player’s were to erupt it would be taken up by the player’s faction (remember those) from the personal story and the player would have to face judgement from them for “breaking” the truce. Even fights within the same faction would be severely judged as it would be seen as infighting and thus making that faction weaker (something no faction wants).
As to your final comment on the stupidity of my post I will just say that you are just ill-informed as to the facts presented within the personal story so I will just let it slide.
lol….im ill informed…ok
so you’re saying that theres no way individuals in these order would disagree with each other and have fights?
or better yet they wouldn’t spar against each other? because in essence the dueling we’ve proposed wouldn’t be anything more than sparring since the player wouldn’t lose anything and the losing player would be able to just get right back up and continue on with what he/she was doing previously….
you mean to tell me that these characters go around killing people left and right all day long but somehow there would be a lore breaking uproar over people sparring….
thats stupid
you shouldn’t let it slide. you should tell me how I’m ill informed
you’re assuming that what people want to do. it’s a really stupid assumption btw.
You have to admit, there are a lot of “dool meh, brah!” people out there. The Goldshire meme didn’t just appear for no reason.
yes there are i wouldn’t even have to concede that because i’ve been of that mindset the entire time.
but not everybody. idon’t see why those guys have to take away from having an option to duel if there is an auto decline feature
This thread gets posted at least once a month (usually more often) and my reply to it will be the same as always. It doesn’t fit the lore in pve. In which we are all suppose to be banding together to fight the menace that is/are the elder dragons.
You may say but we have open world skill challenges that require “dueling” but these are placed within the world to test you for the upcoming war and not as a means of defeating the npc thus they always surrender.
I personally have no problem with an arena because this could just be another test to see if your character is ready for the war to come. Having open world dueling however makes a mockery of the lore and instead becomes much more reminiscent of a bar brawl.
Honestly if the mods refuse to merge these threads how bout learning to use the search function.
edit: also ShiningSquirrel.3751’s suggestion would be acceptable as a means of dueling.
so…….the fact that these people have to band together in the first place doesn’t indicate that they may have some issues with each other? they may fight about those issues.
i fight against separatists and flame legion all the time. this is not a good argument
like seriously…..nobody ever in the world would ever have a conflict that they would want to fight about but they go around killing perceived enemies all the time?
this is actually stupid
It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.
Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.
you’re assuming that what people want to do. it’s a really stupid assumption btw.
I think there is a miscommunication between both sides here.
For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.
Pretty much duel anywhere, anytime. If that is not what the posters here are asking for, they need to be a bit more clear.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if players went to go duel in an arena, more power to them. Out of sight, out of mind. In GW1 we used to do it all the time in our guild hall. Dueling anywhere? NO!
In a ga,e I played years ago, can’t even remember the name, if you wanted to duel, you turned on the option. It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.Ya, I agree with this. I didn’t think people were actually talking about open world dueling – I thought we were discussing 1v1 in arenas.
For people that want open world dueling, go roam solo in WvW.
yea….roam solo into a zerg
best duel ever
It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.
Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.
so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?
you absolutely don’t have to deal with it. if it bothers you that much….step away from it
theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you
So you’re going to take out a major part of a game that many players would absolutely love to have, simply so you don’t have to go into your options a single time and check a single box?
Yeah….selfish
So, you’re going to implement a minor part of a game that many players would absolutely hate to have, simply so you don’t have to go into the Mists and and enter an empty PvP server?
Yeah…selfish.
so……wanting to be able to play test my pve equipment against other people who don’t even actually have to participate is selfish?
you say it’s simple to go in to pvp and find an empty server and duel somebody…lets just assume that is actually the case…lets assume that people won’t just interrupt your duel.
even assuming those things you still don’t have a good point.
we have to use our completely separate pvp characters in order to go into the mists and duel. that undermines the entire point of having an option to duel….simply so you don’t have to see it?
yeah….selfish
what?
why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?
i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…
This sort of implies that.
you don’t want to see them???? good…look away.
Wp to the place you’re trying to go.
just run past the people dueling and pay them no mind at all.
you have so many optionsif people only want duels so other people can watch them…then fine. don’t watch them duel, destroy all their hopes of having people watch them by simply not watching them.
i just solved every single problem you have with dueling besides the fact that you’re probably a selfish kitten
But if we’re of the same opinion, then thread over, I guess.
No. Im not against an arena at all. if thats the way Anet would implement dueling then im all for it.
i would however prefer the option to duel wherever i want out in the world if possible. if people wanted to take LA or any other city in the game from the list of places to duel i’d be completely fine with that
I’m aganst it Because as soon as you get it you will start calling for mass nerfs to classes you do not understand.
this is literally the only good argument i’ve seen against dueling.
i agree but i personally still would like to be able to duel.
You most likely won’t be playing GW2 much longer than. It is a known fact that custom arenas will be added to the game and one of those reasons is specifically to add dueling, which the developers think is a good and necessary part of an MMO.
So, is it REALLY worth quitting over dueling if you like the rest of the game?
I doubt many people have an objection to an arena where where players can go and duel, because you have to opt in to something like that. Anyone objecting to that is selfish, IMO. You going off somewhere else to duel doesn’t affect me in the slightest. There is enough desire in the player base to justify developer time in creating an arena for people to duel in, and a way for people to watch those duels.
However, wanting to wave your weenie around Lion’s Arch while labeling those of us that don’t want to be forced watch as selfish is hypocritical in the extreme.
Understand the difference, Clay, or should I go back to ignoring your opinion on the matter? Either way is fine, but I’d just as soon not be uncivil.
i don’t want to wave my weanie around lions arch tho.
i wouldn’t call people who don’t want dueling in lions arch selfish.
i don’t understand what you point is here
I don’t get why you are against an arena for dueling? Can you give me a logical reason why you should be able to duel anywhere instead of an arena other than I want what I want now?
Im not against an arena for dueling.
If i remeber correctly, you’re the guy saying that “dueling is easy just cooridinate a place in wvw to duel”
that i am against because it completely forgoes the point of a dueling option in the first place.
essentially you’re saying “Hey go do all this stuff in order to do this one thing that you would be able to do easily if there was simply an option for it”
i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling
I doubt many people have any objection to you going to an arena to duel. Why do you feel the need to do it elsewhere? Because you want to? An arena gives everyone what they want, except for the weenie wavers who want to do it in the middle of Lion’s Arch and don’t give a rat’s kitten who objects.
what?
why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?
i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…
You most likely won’t be playing GW2 much longer than. It is a known fact that custom arenas will be added to the game and one of those reasons is specifically to add dueling, which the developers think is a good and necessary part of an MMO.
So, is it REALLY worth quitting over dueling if you like the rest of the game?
I doubt many people have an objection to an arena where where players can go and duel, because you have to opt in to something like that. Anyone objecting to that is selfish, IMO. You going off somewhere else to duel doesn’t affect me in the slightest. There is enough desire in the player base to justify developer time in creating an arena for people to duel in, and a way for people to watch those duels.
However, wanting to wave your weenie around Lion’s Arch while labeling those of us that don’t want to be forced watch as selfish is hypocritical in the extreme.
Understand the difference, Clay, or should I go back to ignoring your opinion on the matter? Either way is fine, but I’d just as soon not be uncivil.
i don’t want to wave my weanie around lions arch tho.
i wouldn’t call people who don’t want dueling in lions arch selfish.
i don’t understand what you point is here
Look at the majority of the posts from people who are for dueling. That’s the mindset I was talking about. I hate that.
" Shut up! You irritate me!!! You’re selfish!!!" All because those of us against dueling are expressing our opinions and concerns.
lol the irony.
there are extremely annoying people who are in favor of dueling but that doesn’t even begin to take away from our stance
im completely open to hearing any concerns with dueling that don’t fall into the “i don’t want to see it” or the “i don’t want to be spammed with requests” categories.
i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling
The same reason why people don’t want dps meters and mods like that. It caters to a certain type a player that festers in the community like a slow cancer.
but you wouldn’t have to deal with anything other than the occasional kitten who gets angry because you didn’t accept his duel request.
Having dueling arenas would be fine with me. Put them in the major cities other than LA, maybe the population would spread out a bit. Oh, and don’t put a PoI, vista or skill challenge in these arenas. I do not want dueling everywhere because people will duel in some places just to annoy others.
As to people whispering you to duel, that’s what block is for.
It gets old blocking numerous ppl everyday. Especially when I rarely have to block anyone now. The first idioot to ask me to duel for all my stuff would cause me to ragequit the game.
this here is the prime example of why we should have dueling.
this guy gets it right.
Look at the majority of the posts from people who are for dueling. That’s the mindset I was talking about. I hate that.
" Shut up! You irritate me!!! You’re selfish!!!" All because those of us against dueling are expressing our opinions and concerns.
lol the irony.
there are extremely annoying people who are in favor of dueling but that doesn’t even begin to take away from our stance
im completely open to hearing any concerns with dueling that don’t fall into the “i don’t want to see it” or the “i don’t want to be spammed with requests” categories.
i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling
it seems to me like the Anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things to be their way
I would much rather have them fix the bugs and work on expansions that ALL players can enjoy then wasting resources on trying to make a small group of players happy.
like i said…..
The anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things their way.
So stating my preference is “only wanting it my way?” LOL!
Well, I guess the rest of your comments can be skipped over now as anything else you have to say is pretty much meaningless to me.yeah…
when your “preference” is to completely skip an option that alot of player want simply because you don’t want to see it, or you don’t want to be spammed with duel requests when we’ve already proposed a filter for duel requests then yeah…. you obviously only want it your way“a lot of players want” is your opinion. The results of past threads speak differently.
I never said “I don’t want to see it”.
I never said anything about being spammed with requests.
I never said anything about a filter.
Please don’t attempt to make your point by putting words in other posters mouths. It’s rude and simply shows a weakness in your arguments.
BTW, have you ever heard of the term “the pot calling the kettle black”?
You have made it very clear you want things your way. It’s so easy to project your own failings on others.
I have to stop responding to your posts, as I am getting very close to getting an infraction. ;-)
ok genius. you caught me red handed.
obviously i want it my way
my way doesn’t infringe on your way, your way does happen to infringe on mine way though so we’re not on equal footing here
if you didn’t say these things then i apologize i must’ve confused you with the other people in this thread arguing against the motion.
What exactly is your stance against dueling then?
it seems to me like the Anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things to be their way
I would much rather have them fix the bugs and work on expansions that ALL players can enjoy then wasting resources on trying to make a small group of players happy.
like i said…..
The anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things their way.
So stating my preference is “only wanting it my way?” LOL!
Well, I guess the rest of your comments can be skipped over now as anything else you have to say is pretty much meaningless to me.
yeah…
when your “preference” is to completely skip an option that alot of player want simply because you don’t want to see it, or you don’t want to be spammed with duel requests when we’ve already proposed a filter for duel requests then yeah…. you obviously only want it your way
So you’re going to take out a major part of a game that many players would absolutely love to have, simply so you don’t have to go into your options a single time and check a single box?
Yeah….selfish
Seriously? Selfish? A major part of the game? What are you? Five? You sound like a kid who’s dad told him to stop bouncing the ball up against the house.
First of all, it’s not a major part of this game. It’s not in this game at all. Therefore there is nothing to take out.
Second, it’s my opinion, not fact. I have no control over what goes or does not go into the game. I don’t care one way or the other if you can duel or not. Not one little bit. It’s less trouble for me if they don’t put it in, but, and let me be perfectly clear to you: I don’t care one bit either way.
yeah…selfish
The title of this topic is offensive. I certainly don’t want duels, and I don’t want to see certain areas (probably Queensdale) becoming overpopulated with testosterone fueled egotists picking a fight with any and everyone who passes by. I don’t want to see them in public, preening like peakittens over some infantile victory they and no-one else perceives as being important.
Sure, introduce duels. Just put them somewhere the general public don’t have to be exposed to their obnoxiousness.
I’m sure a lot of these people crying for duels wouldn’t want them if they realised no-one was watching them.
yeah…pretty baseless argument here….just like every other one against dueling
it’s a video game. most of us aren’t getting any brownie points with girls because we win duels.
you don’t want to see them???? good…look away.
Wp to the place you’re trying to go.
just run past the people dueling and pay them no mind at all.
you have so many options
if people only want duels so other people can watch them…then fine. don’t watch them duel, destroy all their hopes of having people watch them by simply not watching them.
i just solved every single problem you have with dueling besides the fact that you’re probably a selfish kitten
it seems to me like the Anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things to be their way
I would much rather have them fix the bugs and work on expansions that ALL players can enjoy then wasting resources on trying to make a small group of players happy.
like i said…..
The anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things their way.
Nevermind, I retract my earlier statements. Just seeing a couple of the pro duel replies reminded me of the types of players who want them.
im interested in knowing what “types” of players those are.
I do know for sure that people who don’t want dueling implemented only have their own selfish reasons for not wanting it, reasons that i don’t even particularly believe are true in the first place because it seems to me like the Anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things to be their way
You people are being ridiculous. ANet already confirmed that duels are possible with custom arenas when those come out. Furthermore, players duel every night in WvW south of the Windmill in the BLs. If you want duels, get in WvW and coordinate on the forums; it’s easy.
or just implement a dueling option so we don’t have to go through all this….
Title should read “Some Players Want Duels”, dueling is just a horrible addition to any MMO, it serves no purpose AT ALL. Don’t start reciting how you are “testing” builds and kitten. People are looking for more ways to grief others.
Even if there is an option to auto decline duels you will still have the kittenbags who run around hoping to find someone who is unaware of the option and will try to get them to “accidentally” hit accept just to grief people.
People really don’t have the patience to actually just wait for the bounty/dungeon/event for which they have chosen to wait?
Does something that would be a really awesome feature to some people really have to be completely ignored because you might accidentally accept a duel request?
your argument against dueling is really stupid.
Costume Brawls (something that nobody does outside of when they have to for dailies) was added before duels…..
What was anet thinking exactly?
I hate duels. I hate the duel system in most MMOs. I have blocked so many annoying “duelists” in other MMOs just for this.
Costume brawls are voluntary. You “suit” up and go. It’s a blast to me because it’s not a bunch of little morons running around asking for duals to ppl that just don’t care to. Almost irritates me as much as the old gold moochers did.
you irritate me
I love how every single argument against dueling comes down to “I don’t want to be spammed by duel requests” or “I don’t want to see people dueling all the time”
like shut up…..
we’ve already proposed 10000000 times that Anet should allow people to block duel requests completely so that the annoying group of people that want everything in the game to be their way can still have their way while we get to have fun.
I’d like to suggest a new mechanic that comes in to play automatically in a very specific situation: A warrior has stunned me and is about to use Hundred Blades
Right now when I’m jumped by a Warrior with my escapes on cooldown, I’m done for without absolutely no chance of fighting back.
They can do this several times depending on how long the fight goes on, which is completely ridiculous.
It’s a fight of one choice: “okay I’ll stand still while you rapidly eat my health away.”So I’m suggesting that all of my escapes lose their cooldowns and can be spammed as often as I want when encountering a warrior.
This way I can’t be killed by the combo and can proceed to fight the warrior on my terms and win 95% of the time.Also, if it’s not much to ask I’m also suggesting that I can turn off mesmer clones whenever I feel like it, because sometimes destroying one class just isn’t enough.
Thank you and I hope you guys take my suggestion into consideration.
lmfao
go to sPvP
/15chars
thts not WvW…….like why even say it….it literally has 0 things to do with WvW
Simply a spot in WvW where you can go to talk to your enemies, brag, see commanders, possibly set up duels with players on other servers outside of safe zone. Basically just to make enemies feel a bit more human so that you face them on the actual battlefield it can be more fun a feel a bit more like you’re actually facing people rather than “invaders”.
Idk how it would work or if it’s even a feasible idea, I just think it would be cool.
Glad to see so many level headed people posting…gives me hope
Same…jesus this is annoying.
everything was working fine until yesterday and now i can’t do anything with lagging to the point where it’s basically impossible for me to play
People who say they don’t want duels added because they are “annoying” are annoying themselves…all that needs to be done to appease both sides is add an option to automatically ignore duels and everything will be fine.
Saying that dueling should be confined to specific areas is also annoying because why does it need to confined? The pve world is absolutely beautiful why wouldn’t i want to duel on top of a krait tower or down in the sea somewhere?
the only place where dueling shouldn’t be an option is in dungeons it’s hard enough to find groups of people to go into one much less stay in if things aren’t going their way
The entire point of an MMO is to be able to interact with other players i would never play spend money on a MMO otherwise, it’s not like it’s super fun fast paced action with helicopters and extremely complex sword fighting or some kitten…I’m pressing buttons and my character is doing the same animation every time…this would not be fun if it wasn’t for the facts that my character is my own extremely customizable character and there are other people in the world that i can interact with that have they’re own extremely customizable characters…the idea that you’re in this large world with other people that you can interact with is the only reason i would chose a game where i would have to deal with lagging, disconnects, graphics that aren’t as good as single player games, less interactive combat that single player games…THE MAIN DRAW OF AN MMO IS INTERACTION…dueling is one of the top reasons i choose to play an MMO..my character that i worked hard on vs. your character that you worked hard on
I understand and acknowledge the fact that there will be that small minority of completely dickish players who chose to try to duel you instead of help on an event thats happening at the time but theres no way that it would be a significant enough amount to affect the game in any big way since there is incentive to finish events and actually help other players because of dailies, loot, and xp
If a disable duel request option doesn’t work for you then you’re just a dick tbh
I understand that you guys want to be different and present your game differently than other developers but I would love to see a regular video game trailer for this game displaying all the races and classes in some kind of fight like in most mmorpg trailers.
The thing is mmo’s cant really provide the immersion that you get in regular video games and it’s nice to have something to refer back to when you want to get excited about the game again and for me personally thats where trailers and concept art come in. You guys did an amazing job adding pictures to loading screens, it really does do wonders for the level of immersion when you can see how the world was imagined without limitations I just wish I could have a trailer to watch that would do the same. I would love to see some charr fighting ghosts in Ascalon or a Norn fighting a Kodan or something like that.
I don’t mean to be critical because I absolutely love the game and your dedication to your fan base but the “Our Time is Now” trailer would have honestly made me avoid picking up Guild Wars if I saw it before I bought the game.
There are some things that just work…and trailers where you get to see a fully realized world with fully realized characters fighting fully realized battles is one of them.
Please make a regular trailer whenever an expansion comes out
would hate to run with you..
it’s already takes to long to find a group to go into a dungeon with
on a limited schedule some of these dungeons would take way to long to complete if parts couldn’t be skipped especially now with the new WP situation
It doesn’t take any skill to skip enemies. Simple as that.
I agree with that it should be made impossible to skip , I mean if they think “WP-rushing” is bad how can skipping be allowed?
On a side note, I make sure I let people know at the beginning of a dungeon that there will be no skipping: some might leave, but most agree and stay.
Please continue to do the exact opposite of what OP says.
i really wish i could just duel somebody tbh
Same here, i was playing it earlier and it was working just fine…now i keep getting a black screen with just a hand or a pointer…it was grey before but then i went to window and tried to open in fullscreen
Same here, I’ve had this game for a few days and it’s basically been working perfectly up until today… it still says that im getting 30, 40, and 50 fps but everything my character does looks extremely choppy even turning to the side while running is terrible….i hopw this is fixed soon
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