Guild Wars 2

Guardians can definitely be built to destroy people in pvp. You may not burst someone down in 2 seconds, but you also don’t have to rely on some gimmicky haste+100b sequence to kill people. The great thing is there are so many builds that you can successfully use also.

It’s easy to make perma-retaliation builds that absolutely punish anyone that uses fast attacks and will melt them quickly. You can also keep burning up on people in many different ways. Add those two types of damage to your other active weapon attacks and the damage really adds up quickly. I personally either roll with a greatsword + scepter/focus setup (focusing on retaliation) or sword/focus + scepter/shield focusing on 1h-strength and crit damage.

I personally think guardians are way more dangerous than warriors in pvp.

The token system has been proven to work just fine in some other MMOs (such as The Secret World), but only if the dungeons are designed in a manner that makes the token farming grind actually fun and challenging. I’m not going to go into an entire explanation of the Nightmare-mode dungeon progression in TSW or the way that “Black Bullion” drops are awarded and converted to epic gear progression pieces in TSW; that’s for you to research if interested.

But I can definitively say that the system itself was never a bone of contention or player griping in TSW. It actually works very well and is a great incentive. GW2’s general system and length of grinding required is actually very comparable to TSW’s.

What’s different between the two games is that grinding these GW2 dungeons over and over is simply not fun because the encounter mechanics are totally, completely, utterly senseless.

Actually the very problem that the OP mentioned has happened in TSW. People only want experienced players with full clears under their belts and certain gear in their nightmare groups. Everyone just tries to clear dungeons as quickly as possible to get their black bullions.