Guild Wars 2

WvW is part of the world so, you need to do this for the little star next to your name. It’s the one achievement that is immediately noticeable wherever you go so, it should be a little more of a pain in the butt to get.

As for monthly stuff – each aspect of the game should have it’s own requirements
PvE (Gives general rewards/crafting/recipe for your highest job skill)
Dungeon (dungeon coins or dungeon type stuff)
PvP (PvP points/rewards/tourney tickets)
WvW (Badges/karma/siege)

Did you just lose the castle really quickly?

sachiel.8051:

Jumping puzzle or running siege seems to be the best way to get badges.

This is true.
It’s also a load of crap that in a PvP area, you can get more for doing less via PvE.

Worst grind in the game.

For me, all I really want to see happen is:
(I play GW2 for the WvW. No dungeons and no SPvP)

1) Fix the dam culling already
2) Badges automatically go into your inventory
3) Little more frequency on the badges (killed 50 this morning and got no badges, even spiked about 15 of them)
4) Better rewards – right now they suck because of the horrible badge RNG and the “oh look, bags of loot all around my dead body” factor

I could care less about the rest. WvW is the worst grind in the game when you are going for WvW gear via badges.

WvW people are third class citizens in this game. We are a PvP zone, but considered PvE. So when stuff is ‘fixed’ for PvP, that don’t include us and when stuff is done for PvE, it don’t include us either.

We are the red-headed stepchildren of GW2. Accept it.

shagworth.5017:

Because it’s a PvP area.

This and because it probably annoys the hell out of them.

Yea it definitely needs to be automatic. Especially since it shares the same key as Revive and Finish. Can’t tell you how often I have hit F thinking I was picking up loot when I start to rez someone or spike another player and die only to see 5 bags of loot around me. I’m too busy dodging and fighting to look for that little brown, barely visible bag on the ground.

That and I just added 50 to my kill count and not one freaking badge.

NOT.ONE.BADGE.

WTH Anet?

TheLordQ.1857:

I’d like to see the PvP stuff removed from the first Monthly. We have Monthly and Monthly PvP, but both take PvP to complete.

One for PvE and one for PvP would be much better in my opinion.

Thanks for reading!

I would like to see dungeons/fractals removed from the monthly. Best bet is to have one for Dungeons/Fractals, one for PvP and one for WvW, whilst leaving the daily as a PvE thing (collecting stuff, variety of mobs, events and the like).

In order not to screw up WvW they would have merge 3 servers into 3 other servers or 4 servers into 1 server. They can’t do one at a time.

I see it in LA and I think “Why the hell aren’t you in WvW instead of being in LA with your icon up?” I think that because I have see commander icons on people who I have never seen in WvW.

Raincrow.1840:

moirweyn.9872:

Don’t WvW to earn gold. PvE to earn gold and WvW to smash faces.

This type of thinking is what keeps PvP / WvW from being a popular and rewarding focus of the MMO genre, while raiders gets things like ascended gear.

No, no Raincrow, you got it all wrong.

That IS how it works. It should be more rewarding than it is right now. I was not commenting on how it should be, I was commenting on how it actually is.

It is better for people to know how it is than expect a filet mignon when all they will get is a happy meal without the toy.

There once was Norn, owned a bar,
His fare the the worst, near and far.
And he said with frown, “I can’t keep this down”
Then he threw up all over a Charr.

Rhyis.7058:

Maybe you should see the sunlight.

I hear the resolution, the FSAA and the shadows in this place called “outside” will blow your mind!

That
was
AWESOME!

Seriously, next time – take the siege out before you send the golems in.

I am a guardian so, I jump into the middle of zergs (yea I know, not the smartest thing to do but it can serve a purpose at times) and I die a fair bit but, I have never lost money playing WvW. I always seem to break even or come out a little ahead.

Don’t WvW to earn gold. PvE to earn gold and WvW to smash faces.

Peetee.9406:

I think you may have the wrong mindset approaching the game if you’re treating WvW like a daily chore.

Yea, what he said. That was the exact reason I stopped working, I mean playing Eve. You should never feel as if you HAVE to log in. If you do, something is wrong.

Where are you going where that is such a problem? I go to lower level areas all the time and never have the problem you are talking about. Maybe you should just pay a bit more attention to your surroundings.

You can’t say it’s Orr because that is high level.

phys.7689:

lot of misinformation in the replies in this thread.

legendaries still have the same stats as exotics.

Umm…Martin Kerstein said :

Our goal is to ensure we have a proper progression for players from exotic up to legendary without a massive jump in reward between the two.

Exotic UP TO Legendary.

You don’t take a flight of steps up to the same floor you are currently on. Legendary will always be on par with “Best in game” gear. They just haven’t finished the Nov update yet.

Personally, I hate the term ‘endgame’ when it comes to a game that never actually ends. There is no “Congratulations! You have beaten Guild Wars 2!” message in this game is there?

Braxxus.2904:

Vyrance.1723:

get rid of the jumping puzzle. nothing worse than losing a tower, asking for more help, then hearing people ask if the jumping puzzle is camped. get real.

I second this motion.

Get rid of that blasted thing.

I third that motion.

Kill all them puzzle jumpers.

That is not a zerg, that is a raiding/harassment party.

If it were a real zerg, you would have been dead long before they rendered on your screen.

Raine.1394:

moirweyn.9872:

Reaver.9256:

I can go buy the best gear in the game for about 1.5 gold on the market if I want with no grind whatsoever.

2 Problems there:

1) Legendary is better then Exotic now. I have yet to see Legendary on the TP.
2) Ascended is account bound until used then it’s soul bound. No sell, no trade.

You want best in game? You are going have to craft it, grind it, grind gold and/or open your wallet for gems to get gold to buy it from someone. And it ain’t gonna be 1.5gold either.

I see a third problem. I’ve geared 3 level 80’s with the best gear in the game. The armor on the TP alone cost ~20 gold each, so I don’t know where you can obtain the best gear for 1.5. You can’t even get one boot for 1.5 gold. This appears to be a post that’s not distracted by the facts.

I see a fourth problem, I don’t think you can buy WvW gear on the TP.

Kinda like the Spanish Inquisition now…

MorceluLebeau.5109:

At least in WoW if I run something over and over to get better gear, I can then go into the world and my effort isn’t turned completely around. To me, this game makes no sense at all anymore..

Welcome back.

You want fries with that crow?

Ok, let me see if I got this:

1) Your favorite part is dungeons but you don’t like doing them over and over.

That is how dungeons work, period, end of story.
So, what you are saying is that you really don’t like dungeons.

2) You want Exotics for WvW.

You want Dungeon gear – you run dungeons.
You want PvP gear – play SPvP.
You want WvW gear – go play WvW.
Actually – you want Legendary gear for WvW (it’s the best in class now)

3) You don’t like doing events

OK, whatever…

The simple answer to all your problems is this:

GO PLAY WvW!
EARN KARMA AND COINS and use them to
GET WvW GEAR!

Have fun, I guess.

Reaver.9256:

I can go buy the best gear in the game for about 1.5 gold on the market if I want with no grind whatsoever.

2 Problems there:

1) Legendary is better then Exotic now. I have yet to see Legendary on the TP.
2) Ascended is account bound until used then it’s soul bound. No sell, no trade.

You want best in game? You are going have to craft it, grind it, grind gold and/or open your wallet for gems to get gold to buy it from someone. And it ain’t gonna be 1.5gold either.

Mackdose.6504:

arcaneclarity.5283:

Colin Johanson

Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game. We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.

http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success

Anyone notice that Colin Johanson and Eric Flannum are mysteriously missing since the whole Lost Shores fiasco started?

Did you notice that nothing in that quote from Colin has been contradicted?

Yes, it has been contradicted. The rarest items in the game are now Ascended for one aspect of the game and Legendary for the rest (not including SpVp – it has it’s own armor). Now, Ascended armor has the Infusion slot while Legendary Armor, like all other armors, has a Rune slot. Since the infusions are only useful in the Fractal Dungeons and the other new land area, Ascended armor is the new ‘best in class’ for that area. Legendary, which was the same as Exotic is now a better form of standard PvE/WvW gear.

So, Legendary gear is no longer a horizontal accomplishment that is purely optional. If you want the best in class you HAVE to have Legendary gear now.

What was that line:

The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best.

SO, now Ascended armor is new best End Game armor for Fractal Dungeons and PvE and Legendary Armor is now the definitive Best In Class standard PvE and WvW armor. (because Legendary is BETTER than Exotic now)

And yes, Legendary armor is the rarest armor in the game.

He also said this:

If our model was subscription based, we might be spending all this time racing to add as much filler content as possible to keep players chasing the carrot. Instead, as content designers with the goal of creating fun, we get to spend this time refining our content and making it amazing. As designers, this is both liberating and refreshing in an industry in which developers rarely get time from publishers to actually polish their games.

Thankfully it is not subscription based. To all you people running Fractal Dungeons over and over and over to get that nice ring… What’s up Doc? And, as was evident from the disaster the one time event was and the horrible implementation of the new gear progression, this was definitely not “polished” at all and the content from before is not “refined” yet.

Have your entire server fight naked, with level 10 characters see who wins. Heck, put blue armor on them all and see what happens…

tkalamba.2541:

Individual player stats will not affect the outcome of WvW. Overall server cohesion, tactics and leadership will.

Tactics are important, yes they are, but so are individual stats.

You made me lol

Thinking that I was done with the gear acquisition and could just enjoy the game for the sake of the game itself. I did not care about legendary items, that would have been something I acquired over time without really trying and it would not put me at a disadvantage at all if I did not have them.

Not true anymore…

Corvindi.5734:

moirweyn.9872:

Two things:
2) PvP is not affected by this (WvW does not use PvP rules, it follows PvE rules)

Doesn’t mean it’s not player versus player. It is. Which means player stats affect the outcome.

Oh I agree completely, WvW should be considered PvP.

ANet, for some reason, disagrees and thinks WvW is PvE. So, as far as the actual rules are concerned, PvP is not affected.

So now you suggest three rule sets?

PvE (WvW falls into this category – why I have no frakking clue) – Exotics MAX & Legendaries Optional (aesthetic only)
PvP – PvP Only Gear
Dungeon – Dungeon Gear Treadmill forever!

Actually…That would make everyone happy – add a Dungeon lobby and then add a locker to the Dungeon lobby for Dungeon gear otherwise you always have on your PvE/WvW gear since they follow the same rule set.

Totally down with that idea since I hate Dungeons.

Two things:

1) Snazzy: There is no grind for anything? Seriously? I stopped reading your post at that point because Ascended gear is a definitely a grind. (Because you are forced into a single mode of play over and over and over again to get it).

2) PvP is not affected by this (WvW does not use PvP rules, it follows PvE rules)

As far as I am concerned, all you just said was “I need something shiny to reach for all the time. Without a vertical grind there is nothing to do.”

It was like this:
Legendary was the same as Exotic
Legendary just looked different – PERIOD

Now
Legendary is NOT the same as Exotic
Legendary is better than Exotic
Legendary is the same as Ascended

Now, how was Legendary supposed to be difficult to get and still not a grind? Because it was purely aesthetic and purely optional. You did not NEED to have Legendary armor. It did not increase any stats at all. It was something you acquired while just playing the game they way you wanted to play the game.

Now with the addition of a new and stronger class of armor, Legendary has become the template armor you HAVE to get if you don’t want to be forced into a constant gear treadmill when stats are raised to please the “Grinding is life” crowd. Ascended can only be obtained through “grinding” through a specific, single part of the game. Sure they will add other ways to get it, but when? How long will that take? Weeks? Months?

I have my exotics and was in no rush to get legendary items. NOW I have to actually work towards that specific goal on purpose because Legendary items will no longer be what I already have, they are better and will always be the best. A grind has been forced on me, just to remain competitive, until I get a full set of Legendary gear.

Legendary armor was not a grind because it was only aesthetic and therefore optional.
Legendary armor is now a grind because of the precedent set forth with Ascended armor.

For those who are brainwashed by the gear grind from other MMOs, you will never see a problem with this and there is nothing we can say to make you understand it. For those of us to are not of your ilk, we are seriously disheartened by this change.

Vain.7643:

and what is this ’ super deluxe happy pack.’ you speak of?
the only other pack is the collectable….

Yea, that one. Super deluxe happy pack.

Yes, it is a mini – collectible thingy.
You don’t have to use the bank immediately – save it.
Guild thing is for guild points when if you form a guild.

Should read before you buy.

The big exclusive items are in the super deluxe happy pack.

SO basically what you they are saying is that, with every update where new armor or weapons are added, they will simply automatically upgrade the legendary items already in existence to match that new gear, correct?

Will they do the same with Rares or will a massive divide between Legendary gear everything just grow and grow until anything but legendary gear is useless in WvW?

At the time of my vote, 60% is Ruins Game, which was also my vote.

Let’s see, how about we take the one thing (no vertical progression) in a game that separates it from other MMOs out there and get rid of it with the first content update. Yea, that sounds like a great idea.

Jerks.

Veltoss.9135:

moirweyn.9872:

Veltoss.9135:

moirweyn.9872:

I hate the new gear because we weren’t supposed to have a vertical gear grind in this game. I hate the new dungeons because it has destroyed the dynamic events in the higher level areas completely. I am very disgusted with ANet for putting that crap in the game.

Good job ANexxSoft

Once again, the “grind” (which really isn’t much of a true grind at all) will disappear once they’ve added more ascended gear. The new dungeons will not be taking people away after a while once there are other ways to get ascended gear. People freaking out over a temporary problem for the sake of having something to kitten about.

You don’t get it and it won’t go back to normal.

The whole reason people are doing these new dungeons in lieu of the dynamic events in Orr is the new gear. We were never supposed to have a ‘gear grind’ in this game at all because it does exactly the things it is doing to the game now.

What don’t I “get”? They’re going to add more ascended gear and more ways to get it, they have said this. Temporarily, Fractals is the only way to get the current ascended gear. Temporarily, many people are doing Fractals rather than dynamic events. This is something that will be smoothed out with future patches as dynamic events are rebalanced and more ascended gear is added to the game.

But rather than be patient, people would rather freak the kitten out and act like the game is going to completely change forever. Let’s just make a huge jump to assumptions for the sake of having something to freak out about.

You still don’t get it.

They never should have added ascended gear to the game.

The only kind of gear they said they would add was cosmetic only.

I don’t care about the stupid dungeons. These games have dungeons in them.

ANet lied and have gone silent on us. Combined, those are bad signs.

Beyonce.3207:

It’s currently prime time Oceanic and we have zero queue time and the outmanned buff. Whole of this weekend, we were outnumbered significantly – with our BIGGEST zergs averaging 10-20 people.

After hitting the top, the thrill of progress is gone. Good luck SBI, you have taken the lead and a well deserved ones. We are just flighty and impulsive kittens looking for the next big cheap thrill. And WvW, is now off the list.

Let’s see, if Daish was right to bandwagon to SBI.

SBI takes over from SOS:

SBI is putting up a great fight and yes we do have people like Bouncy here but, not all of us feel the same way it does. Those of us who enjoy a good fight and a challenge will be there every day, win or lose. You don’t get better by fighting people you know you can easily beat.

Keep it up everyone, this is what WvW is all about.

I say more camping the puzzles – make it have traps and surprise monsters than knock you off it. Spring doors, trap doors, poop flinging monkeys and players killing you constantly!

I hate those puzzles…

Kymaera Stormweaver.1069:

Sadly I don’t think it’s anything players can get their hands on. May float it over at the suggestions section and see if you can get it added if you’re serious about wanting it.

moirweyn.9872:

Yea, that’s NPC armor.

lol…

What? Did I make a funny?

You can still do all the things you used to do. As for the stuff you do now:

1) Stop doing those dungeons
2) Switch servers
3) Typical MMO thing – low level areas clear out quickly after launch

Yea, that’s NPC armor.

The only sigil that will work is on the main hand weapon. Any sigil on the off hand will be ignored completely.

Memnoch.2589

Oh yeah! I mean..it’s more fun to complete hearts and do long boring drawn out old dungeons that barely give any upgrades at all and are hardly worth the effort, oh oh and yeah! it’s fun breaking down walls and getting zerged in WvW, yes please please keep this kind of content and make sure all the players are doing it! MOAR HEARTS PLEASE!!!

Actually, yes it is. I can’t speak for the dungeons because I don’t like doing dungeons at all so, I don’t. And the nice thing was, emphasis on was, it didn’t matter to my experience of the game. I was able to get all the gear I needed for WvW by playing WvW. Once I got that gear, all I had to concern myself with was getting better at my class and having fun with my guild mates while we attack that wall for the umpteenth time. I don’t feel like that is something I have to do (like a gear grind), rather, it’s something I enjoy doing. That is my endgame – having fun with my friends.

You should really leave this game and go play a traditional MMO where you can always be one step away from the glowing carrot that is the never ending grind for gear. Lineage 2, Aion, WoW are all excellent nightmare gear grinds, I’m sure you’d be quite happy there.

The problem is that corporations do use metrics to determine this stuff. It’s the easiest way to do it. Just like when the police profile people based on race or clothing or whatever. Is it the right way to do it? No. Is it the easiest way to do it? Yes.

Can it turn around a bite you in the butt – hell yes.

That was a load of corporate babble speak crap.

The only way to get the new gear is in the new dungeon. Period. So they see that a lot of people are doing the new dungeons right now and not the dynamic content so the players must want new dungeons all the time! Let’s give them new dungeons all the time and make it the only way to get better gear in the game forever!

If the only way you could collect your paycheck every week was to pee down your leg into your shoe and you did it, your company would decide that is something their employees enjoy doing and, well, actually like to do. Now you have to do that every day at work since you must like it so much.

Yea – it’s like that.

Why did you lie to us about gear progression?

That is what we need to know.

I hate the gear because it is a vertical gear progression and Anet said they would not put that into the game. Also, the only way to get the gear is RNG in a dungeon.

Veltoss.9135:

moirweyn.9872:

I hate the new gear because we weren’t supposed to have a vertical gear grind in this game. I hate the new dungeons because it has destroyed the dynamic events in the higher level areas completely. I am very disgusted with ANet for putting that crap in the game.

Good job ANexxSoft

Once again, the “grind” (which really isn’t much of a true grind at all) will disappear once they’ve added more ascended gear. The new dungeons will not be taking people away after a while once there are other ways to get ascended gear. People freaking out over a temporary problem for the sake of having something to kitten about.

You don’t get it and it won’t go back to normal.

The whole reason people are doing these new dungeons in lieu of the dynamic events in Orr is the new gear. We were never supposed to have a ‘gear grind’ in this game at all because it does exactly the things it is doing to the game now.

0 for all of them.

This game was not supposed to have us chasing the newer better gear carrot over and over again. Now it does and it sucks.