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I don’t see how anything you just said would not still apply if smart, team-focused play didn’t offer the same rewards as zerging?
Doing a ‘great job’ should be reflected on the scoreboard, imo.
it is reflected on the score board as a win. Stop the carrot on the stick pvp gear grind mindset. They should just get rid of individual score, make it a team score and base the glory you recieve on the win or loss.
at least then they’ll concentrate on reviving downed teammates and trying to win then their stupid kitten and ZOMGWTFPWNAGE
What some of you fail to realize is that people will not PvP when there is no hope of winning their match without personal gain incentives. I think gear progression is a horrible idea, but there needs to be something to keep people interested, no matter what the odds are.
then have something set up like DAoC did with the Darkness falls dungeon. Who ever controlled the relics had access to the dungeon. I really don’t want to see a PvE disguised as PvP carrot on a stick gear tier set grinds.
This topic continues to surface, and I continue to be baffled by it.
The things in life which give tangible “rewards” are the things which are fairly unimportant. Fun is it’s own reward, and if that doesn’t feel like enough then it probably isn’t really fun.
I have 2 suggestions for people missing the rewards in GW2, and these are not meant to be insulting at all, just honest advice:
1) Play one (or more) of the hundreds of other games out there which use the exponential power increase carrot-stick-treadmill model instead. GW2 is one of the very few games of this genre not using that model, and there are many gamers who prefer horizontal to vertical progression. Everyone is entitled to their preferences, and there is room in the world for games to accommodate them all.
2) Do a bit of research before purchasing games in the future if you have specific expectations. GW2 has been very openly marketed as a game without power based endgame progression which is based around the ideas of maximizing fun and level playing fields.
what this guy said 100X
Why is this anyone else’s fault but your own? Responsibility, learn to take it.
And to answer your question, they are probably still purchasable because some people may still want to be able to buy them or they under estimated their player base and the ability to pay attention.
whelp, I guess you can now account me among the servers hoppers, though I’m doing it at the tail end and have no delusions that I’m a winner
Now before you crucify me, this is why. FA is dead at night, unfortunately I’ve been working an awful shift at work that doesn’t get me home until after 12am PST. Once we hit our milestone I’ll go back to a normal shift but still won’t get me in until 9pm.
I need to go where there’s an active night community. I came to FA because it was decided on by a group of us that came here, we’ll everyone I started with went back to WoW, I joined up with one of the larger active guilds but they’re mostly active during the daytime.. I came home tonight to find myself removed.. I’m assuming because they think I’m inactive because I’m mostly on late night. So I have no ties here and basically our night shift is just.. lets harass supply and towers.
I play this game for it to be enjoyable and right now, on FA it isn’t. The dudes who have stuck it out, like Gnash and a couple others I see out there every night have heart and I wish em luck.
I definitely like the idea of a consolidation thread to hold the more standard builds out there for all the classes. No excuse not to try them yourself to learn what you’re up against.
agreed but the downside of this too is you just get the terribads that want to be carried, just want to roflstomp grab one of these builds.. like Pistol Whip thief and then proceed to get smoked and start whinning X beat me and i’m in this EZMOAD spec so clearly X is OP!! NEEEEEERF!!!!
lol fair fights. This isn’t a roflstomp, it’s team based objectives. 1v1 is rarely going to happen. Stop worrying about your kitten and learn to help your team win. I don’t know how many times I’ve stayed in a downed state while 3 of my teammates continued to fight right next to me. I very rarly see call outs or ask for help or anyone even using /team except to QQ about losing or about how everyone else sucks.
how about because PvP is fun, helping your team win and you’re win\loss ration being good enough. Why do you need the carrot on a stick. I really hope this doesn’t turn into a crappy kitten gear grind like WoW where all you do is grind for that seasons latest and greatest and it basically comes down to who has the most time to farm gear. If you think all the QQing in this forum is bad just about class abilities and builds, it would be 10 fold if you started introducing tier sets.
WoWs handling of pvp is dismal, all it is gear = roflstomp. sPVP and tPVP is about being balanced.. so that’s why it’s the same gear across the board. The only thing that changes is builds, player skill and ability. If you’re that bored, try running new builds. learn a new class. I really hope they don’t go down the WoW route of how they handle PvP.
get rid of all the WoW kiddies who jujst wanna roflstomp and not team play and who are asking for gear set to grind out so they can be even more l33t and turn it from something fun into a full time job.
Yeah this is pretty normal.
When I play Engineer in sPvP, I build around toughness and HP. Unfortunately it makes no difference. Countless times a theif will down 3 of us guarding a point by doing nothing but attacking out of stealth and then restealthing before the game even recognizes that the they’re no longer invisible. There’s pretty much only 1 way to avoid getting stomped by theives and that’s to roll a Mesmer, which I did. Kind of sad that I have to change classes to even have a chance of having my attacks hit the opponent.
Sounds like you’re just bad engineer. I’ve no issue with theives. stuns, daze, blind, cripple, knockbacks.. kitten even you have a 1 second stealth.
Streaks got iy, probably 2 of the best enginners going right now. Teldo and Erho. I kind of lean towards Teldo style of play where as he takes bombs and Erho loves the grenades.
Also depends on what you want to do. Glass cannon, heal.. defend.
Also, nice to see another engineer running.
You WvW, RvR.. pvp or whatever because it’s fun. Not for the lamekitten carrot on a stick of gear, ranks abilities or whatever. I really feel sorry if you need an “incentive” other than having fun. I hated when they put BGs in DAoC and all the addition crap. I had hours and hours of fun pvping in EQ because it was fun.. not becuase I was going to get something from it other than enjoyment. I really dislike what PvP in MMOs have become. PvE grind in disguise. Where the gear you grind out makes the difference more than how well you play.
The only thing I liked and thought was cool was Darkness Falls. I never even used it, but had kitten loads of fun RvRing so we could own it.
People need to re-read what aydenunited just said.
Nope, played a 4 vs 5 against a roamer last night and we won at least by 220 points. It wasn’t even 4 vs 5 it was 1 holding a node and the other 2 capping with the roamer helping on D when needed.
The difference.. We knew how to play and get each other up when someone was downed. Knew when to use our cool downs and how to use combo fields. people really need to break out of their old MMO way of playing and learn the mechanics and classes of this game before they start complaining.
All the pug games I lose.. idiots who stand next to you while you’re down just trying to WTFPWNkitten targets, not using knock backs to keep the other team out of the circle or from spiking someone, not using combo fields\finishers and no communication.
If balancers will have the same mindset as GW1, then kitten this game will just have one generic balanced build that will perpetually played. Team or character builds that will overpower this balanced template will be nerfed to uselessness and well see mirror matches of balanced builds once again. Which sucks. But I expect this to happen because as they say they expect this to be an esport. So yeah, same old kitten again.
So basically what you are saying is you don’t want a balanced game where player skill comes into play but OP specs that you can just faceroll and win
There’s already a major MMO out there where Gear, OP specs and Add-ons matters more than player skill. Perhaps that is more what you’re looking for.
I bet 90% of the people complaining about pvp probably dont even know how to use combo fields!
I’m willing to take some of that action and add that most of them are probably WoW PvPers, where add ons and gear play the game for you.
Are there stuff that needs to be balanced, tweeked and fixed? Sure that will always happen but it’s no where near as “broken” as majority of the QQers are saying.
I will also admit my level of play picked up once I learned how to use CD’s and Combo more effectivly. I came in just spamming buttons, but quickly got out of that mindset, sat down to learn the mechanics and started supporting my team. The teams that do well are the ones that get their downed players up ASAP, use combo field and communicate. If you’re not going to do that, and just want to WTFPWNFACEROLL then get mad when you get steamed rolled.. should just quit now.
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