I never said anything about superior tactics, I only said we build AC when its adviceable.
Problem is, we also get stomped on open field fights from Blobs and Skillag, we also meet towers and keeps with AC armys in them and we also see ppl running away.
But the only Servers that are accused of running, blobbing, and building ACs are RS and AM.
PS/AG (probably other INT Servers too) building 8 AC in a Tower? No problem.
RS/AM (probably other German Servers too) building 3 AC in a Tower? Germans camping in their keeps and building lots of ACs.
PS/AG/Int Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: We bashed the German Blob out, thanks for the lootbags.
RS/AM/Ger Server defending their Keep with Siege Weapons and winning? Forum posts: The Germans only camp in their keeps even though they outnumber us 5:1 and could have killed us any time if they just went out instead of sitting in their ACs.
Thats whats getting on my (and probably the others) nerves. If you do it, its ok. If we do it, then thats the only thing we do and we suck.
Videos showing 40 AG defeating 35 RS (TUP Video from the other Thread) = AG defeating the German 80 Player Blob even though AG was outnumbered 5:1.
All of you are telling us to change the way we play and how we like to play.
That is, imho, crying.
We wont change our strategy because we have fun playing like that, as well as you wont change yours. So stop telling us the way we play sucks, accept it and if you cant then at least dont run to the forums and cry there about it.
Because thats exactly what you are doing.
“Riverblob/Blobaddon run away, build AC every fight and stay in their keeps”.
Soooo what? Its succesful, we get lots of lootbags as well as points and we dont run away if we got a chance. I advice everyone who thinks we are outnumbering some of them 5:1 to count the enemy Players, often we are around the same (like in a TUP Video where we were even less but in the AG-DL-RS Thread we were 5 times more than them…). A Red Wall tends to look like more players than a green Wall.
Ive seen too many “….. vs. 80+ Riverblob” Videos with only around 30-40 RS Players to take insults about outnumbering anyone 5:1 serious.
Also more numbers isnt an accusation. WvW is like that, sometimes youve more numbers, sometimes the enemy has. So what? Shall we from now on leave wvw when we see the enemy has less players? “Look they only have around 20 players, guys 23 of us have to logg off right now”
Yeah, right.
Piken Square seems to be BLOBBING haha.
This is definitely a Matchup theyll like, roflstomping weaker Servers and crying when fighting against equal or stronger.
Mobs with AC yeah right, and even if we build AC so what? We got the supplies, we got the Blueprints and if its a good Idea at a particular Situation (like you outnumbering us 5:1 and still losing) why not use it?
If YOU lose too many fights, then YOU should probably think about the way you play.
And now dont tell me we lost most of them, if itd be like that our AC’s wouldnt bother you since you got your lootbags anyways, which doesnt seem to be the case since you come even here in a Thread which isnt your Matchup to cry.
Sadly we will probably have to play against other INT Servers next week again like Pikencry, Aurora Cryer or Baruch Whiners.
Its funny though, no flame on the German Matchup Thread and we all have fun – but in the International Thread PPL from INT Servers jump in like “have fun Blobbing and playing for points only”.
But actually its the Opposite.
AM and Elona rarely run away, PS AG BB and Gandara Players tend to run away far more often and Ive gotten the last 14 hours more smallscale (less than 30) as well as Big Scale Open Field fights as Ive gotten the past 2 Weeks vs PS and AG. In between theres defending and capping Keeps too ofc.
I surely would love it if this Matchup would stay like that for a while, at least AM and Elona dont run away so often as other international Servers do.
Right lets stop here, you showed that you wont change your mind even if your own video proves that you are wrong. RS (and all german Servers) suck all Hail AG and the other international Servers.
noone talked about an IF group there, all you wanted to see is RS running, which i showed you. ofc they couldnt see us but as soon as we smashed into their backs they couldve easily turned an fought us, they decided to run to the tower instead. IF fights us later in the evening (hour 4 something but i wont look it up since youre being defensive regardless of what i write). i just showed you some proof so you can stop asking for facts
Some facts, they did “run away” in order to go to some tactical more important place (defending spawn tower?) – you never do that ? Ok let your t3 tower fall for some zerging.
And the Group of 25 Players Did stop to fight you. They couldve run into tower and port away or build Siege, but they stopped and fought. The other half, which didnt get attacked, ran to the other Place. But its not “running away”.
Its all in the Video you posted. Watch it again and then tell me if RS actually ran away because of AG getting 10-12 more players.
Your accusations are just ridiculous. We dont run from any fight if we got even numbers and never ever when we are more if theres not some other place that needs urgent attention. And Smallscale Random Zergs consisting of 10-20 Players running away from a 10-15 Guild Melee Group is shameful? They’d stand no Chance.
I really should start recording AG Players running away from me when i fight em 1v1 or 2v2when i roam around the map.
100 loot bags for manning siege? kitten , you pro. You might as well go play PVE – more loot, better loot. Much less sitting around doing nothing waiting for someone to attack or worrying you might lose your place on your AC.
AC buff was the worst change yet in this game. The main WvWvW forum threads are full of people defending it because “it gives smaller groups a chance when outnumbered”. What they forget is the reverse is also true – the small groups when facing a much larger force – who no doubt have siege maxed due to the number of ACs placed – have no chance at all.
Game was much more fun when siege placement was broken. Personally I’d take out all the siege with exception of rams and catas (although I’d make doors MUCH harder). Superior items should be WXP drop only to limit their supply much more effectively and Golems only available to build when you are outnumbered.
I never thought I’d miss WARs odd system where you could only place siege at designated spots, but maybe there was some method to their madness.
Oh no I actually wish Id have got an AC during that time. But sadly I didnt. Wonder how much Bags those guys in the AC’s got.
What the….?
At 2:17:20 Riverside runs away before they even see you. They probably needed to defend something on the map or another map. Like hell theyd run because of that lil Melee Train. Or do you think they’ll run all AT THE SAME TIME away the exact second a Player with [TUP] appears on screen? No, they even started running 2-3 sec before the first of your Players was visible. Seriously…
Before i joined TUP i would have probably said no, now i have i would say this happens multiple times every single time we go raiding, especially from the German servers
War Dad TUP
One half of RS ran left and the other right.
Analyze 2:18:00 – 2:18:40 and you can count 25-35 RS Players, 25 during 2:18:00-2:18:20 you killed first and the other ~10 during 2:18:20-2:18:40 in front of the tower.
I fail to see where you actually fought a 60+ RS Blob. You fought vs. 25 and shortly after vs 10.
So your 10-12? TUP Group + ~20 friendlies killed ~35 RS Players that decided to fight outside the Tower instead of running inside and build some AC’s like we “always do” – at least in your opinion. Good job. Lucky for you RS splitted that time.
Where is the [IF] Group in that Video during the mentioned time? Nowhere.
100 loot bags for manning siege? kitten , you pro. You might as well go play PVE – more loot, better loot. Much less sitting around doing nothing waiting for someone to attack or worrying you might lose your place on your AC.
AC buff was the worst change yet in this game. The main WvWvW forum threads are full of people defending it because “it gives smaller groups a chance when outnumbered”. What they forget is the reverse is also true – the small groups when facing a much larger force – who no doubt have siege maxed due to the number of ACs placed – have no chance at all.
Game was much more fun when siege placement was broken. Personally I’d take out all the siege with exception of rams and catas (although I’d make doors MUCH harder). Superior items should be WXP drop only to limit their supply much more effectively and Golems only available to build when you are outnumbered.
I never thought I’d miss WARs odd system where you could only place siege at designated spots, but maybe there was some method to their madness.
Oh no I actually wish Id have got an AC during that time. But sadly I didnt. Wonder how much Bags those guys in the AC’s got.
What the….?
At 2:17:20 Riverside runs away before they even see you. They probably needed to defend something on the map or another map. Like hell theyd run because of that lil Melee Train. Or do you think they’ll run all AT THE SAME TIME away the exact second a Player with [TUP] appears on screen? No, they even started running 2-3 sec before the first of your Players was visible. Seriously…
Edit:
Also, One half of RS ran left and the other right.
Analyze 2:18:00 – 2:18:40 and you can count 25-35 RS Players, 25 during 2:18:00-2:18:20 you killed first and the other ~10 during 2:18:20-2:18:40 in front of the tower.
I fail to see where you actually fought a 60+ RS Blob. You fought vs. 25 and shortly after vs 10.
Ive been called many things mate and many which I let slide with a pinch of a salt
But I draw the line at being called a racist for pointing out the view of x servers from the outside… and their playstyle from experience.
You sir you should be ashamed of yourself to call someone that unfounded just because you disagree or do not like my opinion.
I team with people from many different cultures from all over the world… and even multiple germans do you think I would team with them or they would team with me if I was what you say I am?
You should be banned for such slander and defamation… there is a line and you crossed it by a mile.
I expect pugs to bring more to fight a guild that is for sure and I don’t mind that even when its a bit excessive, I live for the fights… but I have a lot of footage of german blobs running away from fights and 80 guys running through 20 straight into a keep to hide behind and use siege… instead of engage and fight… If you read the forums there’s a lot of players who share similar opinion of x servers…
Besides Millers sound is german and so is kodash… do I say they are like your server? no I do not… so who is making the generalization’s when mine is based on a lot of hours in WvW up close and personal.
Unfoundly Calling someone a racist is pretty ignorant and hateful General Rager.
sorry to let you down Koma but when you keep coming up against the same Anti-WvW and Anti-PvP servers who still despite points losing any kind of meaning(in deciding matchups) possible still are fanatical about it and not playing for fights or fun then yeah they thoroughly deserve their reputation they have built.
Congrats for getting your unupgraded middlekeep back after 2.5 hrs on AG Borderland
Don’t even dare to be proud of that, you had twice our numbers and over two times our numbers. If you have pride in defending that, try fighting a group when it outnumbers you two times and then capture a keep from them while they have many many arrowcarts in it. That’s what we did, yes I’m proud of it, yes I hate all riverside players and yes, I will take any opportunity to hurt any RS player (ingame).
Have fun RS, if you find pride in your blobbing, you can’t even be argued with.
I’m not going to post any posts in the near future or I’ll face a permaban from these forums soon enough.
Why should I care? Got over 100 Heavy Lootbags and other drops out of you. Thanks again.
yesterday afternoon, I had about 20 people in RSBL, first we tried golemrush on Bay but since there was a billion ac’s in there we couldn’t get any further then getting the inner gate down.
after that we had a mass battle for greenvale and greenbrair. this battle was something like 20 vs 90, from which the 90 were of course on the rs side.
during this battle we took down brair walls and gate down for 3 times, after which we saw views inside like in the attached screenshot. (dat ac’s)
after a long struggle, we capt brair (against that 90 men blob), after which RS bunkered inside Vale and built 2 trebs to hit Brair, besides that they had about 5 superior arrowcarts and a couple of normal ones inside the camp, which was the reason they took Brair back. (I still wonder why not just ram the gate down with 90 people)
but it was great fun ^^
Dont forget to mention that RS didnt build any AC that afternoon on open field, that the 2 golem rush (which cost you some normal Golems and 4 Omegas) failed at outer Gate of Bay, the billion Trebs you lost and that you had 6-7 AC in briar before we capped it.
Oh, and also that PS also played with a blob often, though nvm, Im sure it was a coincidential meeting of FG, INC, some other PS Guild i dont remember and friendlies running together…
Oh and we probably didnt just “ram the door down with 90 people” because we werent even 90 People. But go on believing that we can only win when we outman PS 3:1 and build ACs…
