Guild Wars 2

The history of Chaster.

It could be made into a movie like The Hobbit.

Filmed on location in Taiwan rather than New Zealand.

It would star Jet Li!!!

Come to Kaineng… you will be able to tell your grandchildren that you knew the guy they made the movie about!!!

P.S: We still looking for more players, or a small/medium sized guilds to join us Kaineng.

PP.S: Welcome to the new xfers I chatted with yesterday ingame and through PM’s! Hope fully some guilds xfer over during your timezone you will be able to join. (euro times).

Kaineng.

We are currently T8 due to being such a small newer released server.

We are going to hit T7 soon, and would def need the help.

Great community full of WvW guilds.

Dont let the fact its T8 turn you away. Its a very competitive tier. Our matches against DR and Fergs have been a very close amazing matchup for almsot a month and a half now.

Currently Dr is going to hit Tier7 before we do, and they do not need the extra population. Kaineng will hit Tier7 as the odd man out in that tier, and an extra guild focused to WvW during primetime would be awesome.

right now we can field a force in our own BL to keep it locked down and defended. And defended it is and has been the entire week with a specific plan and organized defence. We also are able to push out with a force into 1 other map with about 30 of us. Another guild like yours would allow us to extend our reach.

We have a great community, zero drama on the server between any of our guilds. We all work well together and get along. Heck we even get along with our adversaries on the other servers.

We desire to have a fun competitive time in tier7, your guild would make that happen for all 3 server in that tier.

LOL awesome picture Chaster!

Chaster is one of Kaineng’s best Commanders, and leads our largest asian timezone guild, SoS. A wonderful and very helpful guy, probably the most helpful guy i ahve ever seen in an mmo. You will often find him guiding people through out the PVE world to do hunt down boss npcs, giving tours of Orr clearing all the temples, or in WvW making sure to portal people throught the jumping puzzles.

He also likes long walks on the beach. Jogs as a hobby. Has read every Harry Potter book twice and prefers blondes. Yes. Blondes.

Come to Kaineng and meet the infamous Chaster the Scarred and he might entertain you with the tale of how he got his Scarr!!

Eventually ET and HoD are gunna plummet into tier8… they are the true tier8 servers, they just ahvent finished falling through the ranks yet.

When either ET or HoD gets into tier8 first…. it will be a fight between Fergs and Kaineng to see who jumps into Tier7 and who gets stuck in tier8 with ET/HoD.

When this happens. It will be a ping pong between tier7 and tier8 for both Fergs and Kaineng. One week dominating a boring matchup against ET and HoD…. the next week getting smashed by 2 larger servers.

Doesnt have to be that way. I dont care for making a huge mega alliance that goes up in ranks and gets stopped cold at tier3 or 4, and then falls apart.

I want just to be ina fun 3way matchup that is close and enjoyable. We have had that here in tier8 for over a month and a half now.

We are all going into tier7 wether we want to or not, or wether we are ready for it or not.

IMHO, the best scenario to see happen would having Ferg’s WvW’ers…. guilds, teams, individuals…. xfer off and split themselves between Kaineng and DR.

This would leave Ferg/ET/HoD to perpetually be in tier8 while we enjoy a very very long and fun tier7 3-way throwdown.

I know Chris and [NP] and Balidore and the [Envy] guys would be more than welcomed by either Dr or Kaineng. Sometimes adversaries make great allies. iSPY was actually an adversary of Warsworn’s in our previous game we played. When we came to GW2 we thought “hey lets fight beside each other this time” and it has worked out just dandy far as im concerned.

Just some food for thought.

I would hate to see Ferg and Kaineng ping ponging back and forth cause a buncha huge alliances thought it would be awesomesauce to abandon their servers to slowly die and fall down the ranks.

Thnx alot Haaa Key Puck and Kretna.

With ET/HoD falling, Im looking to try and get Kaineng to be a good 3rd wheel in tier 7 with DR and whoever else we get there, so we can have fun and enjoy ourselves in a solikittenchup again like we have had for so many weeks in tier8.

When ET/HoD get to tier8…. Kaineng and Fergs gunna battle the ping pong wars between tier7/8… switching from dominating ET/hoD one week… getting dominated by DR/XXX the next week.

That will be extremely boring for all sides.

Kaineng has some great small roaming groups. But so do the other server we are matched against. So a smaller guild looking for some tier where they can roam and run into similar groups, will be at home with us surrounded by similar people with the same playstyle both on your own server, and the ones you are fighting against.

Are you an individual player or group of freinds wanting something small scale and less zergy? Tier7/8 is the place to be. Dont be fooled by it being “bottom tier”. Alot of it just translates to less population…. not less competitve spirit or a “crappy” WvW server. not one bit.

Thnxs alot Khanswrath!

We def have had alot of fun fighting against both DR and Fergs.

Its unfortunate that tumbling of ET and HoD are gunan mess this up completely.

But all it taks is a a guild that an field just 20. Thats right just 20. during the european timezone or the NA primetime hours, to make all the diffeence we need.

Kaineng is currently a Tier8 North American server.

We are looking for some guilds… small/medium sized… to come and join us as we are approaching a shift soon into tier7.

This shift is due to ET/HoD servers both plunging int he rankings, which will bring Kaineng into Tier7.

Kaineng currently has great WvW prescence for our tier during North American primetime we usually hold the point lead, and also during Oceanic primetime we have a great prescence from our Taiwanese guilds most notably [SoS] guild, a mianly Taiwanese guild that field well near 100 in thier primetime.

What Kaineng needs, is a few more smaller/medium sized north american based guilds to help us as we move into tier7 to help keep the amazing 3way matchup we had with Devonas Rest and Fergussons Crossing for the past 5 or 6 weeks.

What we also need, is a few European guilds to help out with a round the clock coverage in WvW. A few small guilds would amke a huge difference to keep this bracket fun and competitive and not a lopsided fight. A Euro prescence that can take over the torch from our amazing Oceanic guilds would be just amazing.

Kaineng has a wonderful community. PVE wise i have had zero problem getting dungeon runs. Temples in Orr need more effort to clear, and Arah’s is rarely open.

The guilds currently on Kaineng have been with each other a long time, and there is no drama here. Just a buncha good folks who really enjoy the thrill of WvW pvp.

Are you a guild that likes to roam in small groups? Kaineng is for you. we have a few really amazing zerg-busting squads that love to roam.

Are you a guild that likes to have alot of action? We dont lack for action or red names to kill. We are very competitive and put our hearts into the fight, wether against larger servers or smaller, we bring the fight regardless.

Kaineng has grown alot as a server. We were one of the new expansion servers that came out 2 weeks after the game came out, and have been growing and working our way up ever since.

Wether you are a single player, small team, or a small/medium sized guild looking to make a difference and be in a tier that has a close even matchup… we are the chocie for you!

Deso is a euro server?

Drednyte.7601:

I have it!! The solution to all 3 server problems.

Lets take all the top guilds that have the common goal of server rank progression, and move to ONE server!!!!

KAIN/WAR/iSPY/ENVY/NoQQ can push domination on reset thru sunday. PRO/GASM/RED/BTSY/WAR/iSPY can push domination through “primetime” on weekdays, and PRO/YARR/SoS can push domination late nights!

Oh man, we’d rise to #1 server!

Question is: what server do we all get on? I’d vote DR simply because its has the highest point tally at the moment and gaining points is pretty much suck!

Ok..now lets make it happen so we can rise up and put a stompin on some arses in tier 1!

We can reform into one big guild called Alpha n Omega [AnO]. When you see us its the beginning of your end! lawl..caaaaaaaaaaaaackle…weee to beer!

I would be down for this.

But it would have to be Kaineng… reason why is SoS would never xfer as Kaineng name holds significance and a reason why so many asian players are on Kaineng. It was the main asian hub in GW1 from what i have been told. So they naturally flock here.

Soon ET and HoD will be at rock bottom tier8. When either ET or HoD get to tier8, the first one will be paired against Kaineng/Fergs, who will have to fight each other to get out of tier8 to make way for the 2nd of those 2 servers (ET and HoD) to fall into tier8 the week afterwards. No offence but I dont think Fergs would win… it will mean a perpetual 3way domination fight against ET/HoD in tier8, every now and then flipping places with Kaineng who will be constantly flipping between tier8 and 7 unless we get more guilds.

Just sayin… server xfers still being free and open for so loong has completely zonked the matchmaking system for WvW.

Your scenario Dred, while made in jest im sure…. would probably end up putting sech a gathering of all of us into mid tier matchups…. at most tier3, even that is wishful thinking. Would probably end up with this merged up new alliance ping ponging between between tier3/4, unless more guilds join the bandwagon of a fast rising server (which they will and we know it lol).

Im not looking forward to Kaineng ping ponging between tier7/8.

We have a wonderful tier right now.

Too bad its gunna get screwed by ET/HoD falling hard.

SpaceLord.4590:

the noobler,

I have to correct some of your post as it is a little off.

We had some very good fights with NoQQ last night in DRBL, but it was not a 60 MAN ZERG as you stated, at least not while we were fighting them. We sent the zerg away from them and told them to handle taking the towers and supply.

We scouted and follwed them for an hour, we had a group of about 15. They wiped us several times, and we got them several times. We had scouts following them and worked very hard at cutting them off. It was a lot of fun. Those guys are very tough to deal with.

I am not sure the “lightning” excuse holds up for the Hills either. You were out of supply and could not repair anything. We built a balista and cata on the bridge and slowly took you down after getting in. Now you are correct you beat us back the first 2 times, and I give you much credit for that. Then the fight in the lords room was epic.

Not trying to argue, it just really would be nice if you didnt try to discredit everything DR does and chalk it up to….you guys just 60 man zerged everything.

Meh one Drednyte-esque post and you get all defensive.

Take the ribbing for what it is, nothing personal. Notice I made no mention of specific guilds or players.

The lightning did destroy all our siege outside the Lord Room. but yes, the lord room fight was just epic.

The fights were fun no matter how many you brought. You cant deny DR vastly outnumbered us there. and i mean VAST. Matters not. We had fun regardless and would do it again in a heartbeat.

I gatta say DR will msot likely move up soon. This might be the last matchup, might not, but we are definetely headed to a seperating real soon of our Fergs/DR/Kain matchup we’ve had for more than a month now.

I will say that i will miss our matchup tho. We have definetely gotten to the point where we know our adversaries. We have gotten some good rivalries going. We got some good respect between certain guilds across servers. I think ahve all learned alot from playing against each other for the past month and a bit. We’ve all defintely grown in our knowledge and playing ability…. all 3 servers.

Dr doesnt just bring numbers. Yes you guys do have good organization on top of that. Most definetely do. you guys deserve to move up just anyone else who has performed greatly in a matchup does. Do the numbers help? yes! But thats part of the game. WvW isnt balanced and thats the fun of it. You really dont know whats gunan happen from one day to the next. Tomorrow Fergs could get a huge 400+ man guild xfer in from Jade Quarry and wipe us both off the map… just cant predict that stuff. And I like it.

@Chris.
Dont know what you are talking about. All i see is one guy yapping about “united”, he doesnt speak for me and my guild or my allied guilds. I fully realize we held Stonemist PARTLY due to Fergs putting pressure on DR. Very true. That wasnt the sole reason. And its not like I didnt see [NP] tags smashing on stonemist during that time either. If SoS went and got you heated… I dunno… cant speak for them. Same as i know you cant speak for TTA on Fergs. those guys are weird. War/iSPY were inside Bay Keep in DR BL. TTA goes and knocks down the far north gate… runs inside… and bee lines striaght for us Kaineng’s lol… like whut whut? its a DR keep man… the point is to go for the inner gate and get it before we do… not smash into us and wipe lol. Funny little fellas.

I really dont personally care to go after Fergs. I have no desire to go into Fergs BL. With the numbers DR has, and the coverage they got to night cap, should be them we both go after. I dont care to play for second, it aint gunna change our relative standings in this tier. It might once DR is gone to the next tier, and we can fight it out to see who between us can go up once ET and HoD come down. For now? no point in taking your points and vice versa.

Was a fun fight in DR BL last night. Almsot got Bay Keep after a long fight working our way inside methodically. Eventually got the supplies to zero, knocked down inner wall…. and BAM…. DR’s got thier surge in numbers. Our 20 attacking vs your 20 in Bay Keep was going pretty smooth… but adding another 20-30 to push us out was genius.

Im curious what the strategic genius was behind Fergs TTA guild trying to backdoor us while we were taking Bay Keep from DR during that time? Or trying to take Bluebriar? Every attempt failed… and seriously… you are in DR BL to go after DR… why bother with us? Why 2v1 us and not 2v1 DR in thier BL? Did u think it would be easy pickings? lol

Well we did go and take Hills Keep from Fergs in DR BL after we got pushed off from Bay Keep by DR’s 60man zerg. While the DR zerg was getting manhandled by NoQQ and focusing on taking back Redlake Tower … we ninja’d Fergs Hills Keep they fought so hard to take. Then it was tiem to prepare for what we knew was coming: THE CLASSIC DEVONA ZERG RUSH.

Thnx fergs for leavng Hills Keep with full supply. We went straight work setting up our defence. then they came…. 30 DR to the north… 30 Dr to the south. We let them in. and just as we knew they would… they did the same thing for the inner gates. Splitting thier forces. NoQQ hit them from behind, we jumped out from the inner gate and it was ramjam time on the 30 at the inner west gate. We then mopped up the 30 at the inner north gate.

After wiping them as they trickled back to the keep in a long column of walking loot bags waiting to happen, i guess thier comamnders eventually told them to group up and redouble the assault… this time with a golem!

Well… since the first stratgey of splitting thier forces worked out so well… they deide to do it again! this time it worked even better, as we wiped them faster than the first time!

On thier 3rd push in. We unfortunetly were the target or ArenaNets dislike as the lightning destroyed al our outter siege equipment. So we withdrew to the Lords Room for a fight to the finish.

that Lords Room fight lasted a good 20-30mins. 60+ DR ZERG held at bay. A sea of red names. We held strong. But alas, they were too much. Thier genius strategy of quantity vs quality won the day. But not without a good 2 to 1 death count for about 30mins. Good job getting people to portal behind us, handnt had a good defence like that the day before when we smashed both Fergs and DR repeatedly for the entire night as we defended Stonemist from a wonder 2v1 assault.

Looking forward to see how the quantity over quality strategy works out for the rest of the week. Good luck DR!

Fergs dont need luck… prolly just need to lose those oddballs in TTA tho.

Its just a population problem Chaster.

Stonemist on most tiers flips every5mins. We held it for… 3 days? Thats with both servers banging on it repeatedly nonstop the whole time.

DR does have alot more manpower in WvW than either Fergs or Kaineng.

It was odd that during the weekend thier population went down to where it made the fights EVEN where one side didnt completely outnumber the other.

On top of that, it might be that thier leadership doesnt play weekends much either…. whereas we in Kaineng do play weekends but less during the week.

Almost every server in the game is on these forums recruiting guilds to com help them during thier off-times… every server has offtimes where they get thier stuff taken due to low population.

DR’s offtimes are weekends and primetime. Kain’s is daytime afternoons and nightcapping unless SoS is slowing them down in thier time bracket.

Dont let losing Stonemist get ya down man, nor let DR gaining on us either get you down. You and your guild are vital to Kaineng’s ability to bring a fight in each matchup.

LOL just after writing that i log on and Dr is in the lead +300points.

Kaineng has been doing great this weekend, since reset till now we have held Stonemist and put alot into keeping it.

The fight in EB has mianly been by SoS during the day, and War/iSPY/NoQQ during primetime till SoS gets on. Rancid has xferd back to Kaineng and has popped his commander to help alot in EB as well. Think I saw Paper Eater there few times too during off times. Sbullet as well. Mainly speaking, big props to Chaster and Ranger Danger. Sorry if I didnt mention any of the smaller guilds, but again props to iSPY/WAR/NoQQ and SoS in the fight for EB.

The fight to keep and hold Kaineng BL has been taken up by KAIN and KR and a few of the smaller guilds under thier leadership. Hats off as always to Klazart, Paper Eater, Darxio who I know have been out there every single day so far. We’ve manged to hold our keeps and garrison fully upgraded the whole weekend due mianly to these guys vigilance and the plan they put forward to keep our own Borderland ours.

What Saarc said is true tho. This weekend does feel very “off”. I know what Dr is gunna claim… same as what was claimed last time they lost when we got back into WvW after the halloween event… that they “have lives”. Maybe most of Kaineng isnt american (like SoS and myself) and dont celebrate thanksgiving… and most of DR is americans and does celebrate it, and it might explain the big difference this matchup compared to the last.

What transpires throughout the week as DR nightcaps like it usually does virtually unopposed will remain to be seen. I know ive had blast defending Stonemist this weekend, at some points with 7+ walls down and both servers piling in on us, we still held. KAIN/KR’s leadership in the Kaineng BL has also helped our server ALOT allowing War/iSPY and SoS and NoQQ to bring the fight into other maps, right now that being EB.

Its possible that DR lost more than what we know in as far as guilds. TRX going to Fergs shouldnt have made THAT big a of a change (sorry guys lol)… considering Apex was supposed to leave Kaineng to go to DR it should hav even’d out. Did they arrive on DR? they said they were going there. /shrugs

Regardless been some amazing fights going on. I play for the fun of it… the fun fights we get where you just all scream over teamspeak hooting and hollering how much fun you just had… thats why I play WvW.

If Tier8 is gunna keep giving me this much fun fights, I dont care much about going to higher tiers, who cares… to do what? Get stomped by 2 or 3 times our numbers for a week? lol… forget that.

Respect to Fergs as well. You guys have really stepped it up and bounced back from when so many guilds were jumping ship off of ya. Hats off to Chris Ivey and Balidore over there for organizing. your hard work has allowed me to have a blast when ive been ingame and I thank you for that.

DR. Please keep giving us badges. Thanks.

Gracen.6451:

My guild left Blackgate because fo the server hoppers and the long queue times. We are loving the move to Devona’s Rest and look forward to helping them rise from the bottom

and what guild and how big is your guild that went to DR?

Yes. All we need is some more small/medium guilds to cover any other times than NA primetime. Its a great tier and server for small roaming guilds groups of 5-10people.

If you are a small/medium sized guild that likes to roam and WvW as a guild group, without having to bother with ques to get into WvW… we’d love to have ya!

Warsworn has around 200 members… about 50-60 active during primetime and about 20 of those would be in WvW durng our peak times out there between 7pm – 12am EST.

iSPY (Cryptic Gaze) also ahs around 200 members.. about the same 50 online durng primetime and about the same 20 in WvW at that time as well.

We have also KAIN (Kings of Kaineng) dont know how maany in the guild but they put about 15 people into WvW under thier commander as well during primetime.

Our 4th active WvW guild would be NoQQ (shoulda Rolled Kaineng) as small guild that roams the maps during primetime looking for zergs to bust, and bust they do… these guys routinely take thier 10man roaming group an break up 30+man zergs with EASE.

There you have it… Kaineng’s entire primetime WvW focused guilds. there are smaller guilds than this which can put out 2 or 3 or 4 people a night, and most of them will follow around in PUG’s under a few of the commanders out there who arent in one of the bigger WvW guilds.

SoS (survivors of searing) is a collection of 3 guilds all maxxed at 450 members each… they are a mainly Taiwanese guild, who vast majority of play duirng the morning hours. they are however a PVE focused guild, whose guild leader also loves to WvW when PVE gets boring, and brings a a bunch of his guildmates with him. While they can put out vast numbers during thier timezone’s hours, they dont do it consistantly enough week after week to where we can defintely lock down that time to catch up on the score.

Until this week, Kaineng has been in the lead consistantly during primetime hours with just our 4 small guilds spread out between the 4 maps. We bring the fight when we are out there.

Being on the bottom tier doesnt mean less competitive atmosphere… its very competitive,a nd our WvW zones are def not ghost towns!

What we lack is more coverage throughout the day as Rumours has stated above. Heck even a bit of help during primetime would also be very welcomed to any small/medium guilds looking for primetime action without the pesky ques.

When my guild decided to move to Kaineng from Dragonbrand 6 weeks ago, it was the best decision we could have made at the time, and it has been a blast ever since helping Kaineng to grow in the time since as a great place full of enjoyable WvW action.

Small/medium guilds would also find themselves being very happy with what we have here on Kaineng!

Drednyte.7601:

One last post before i log into the game, and i direct this to ALL guild leaders on all 3 servers.

One thing about Phizyn, PRO’s guild leader, that reflects on his leadership as well as the respect the guild has for him. When he guildchats a call to war for PRO….regardless of what we’re doing, where we’re at, what we “want” to do….we go to war. PvE is never ending 24/7. We all know that, but we also know that when we joined PRO it was a Wv3 guild, and when the leader or a commander calls us to war…its our responsibility to go. Those that choose otherwise on a repeated basis, are no longer part of PRO. Hardcore? not so much because we all know this on joining, WE made that choice.

Sometimes its a win..sometimes its not. But either way, its fun.

Maybe not for some guilds, but maybe it could be………

That is a perfectly acceptable expectation of people from thier guild leadership.

We have the exact same outlook and expectations.

Drednyte.7601:

@thenoobler.7540

Sad to see you 2 powerhouse guilds are dropping out of what Wv3 in GW2 was designed for =(

Yea its fun roaming around in a pack picking off stragglers or busting a zerg from behind. But the most fun I’ve had with you all is those awesome team vs team fights at key nodes. Some of the defenses you all put up were down right brilliant. And i swear, i got spiked in the head more times than i can count by your 2 guilds. Primetime you all can still field those 60 mans, so dont stop! Look at Ferg, they made it a point that if anyone wanted to take their homeland, they’d do it over the entire servers lifeless corpse! I go there not expecting map domination, but betting on a darn good fight by a very talented bunch of players.

Besides, once the rendering bug is fixed then what? Get back into the fight man! A leader’s primary purpose isnt to lead to victory, its to ensure the troops stay focused and never give up! By doing that, victory is a given. (Ferg is awesome example of this btw)

We arent getting away from WvW, and what its meant to be is what you make it.

we have never combined put out any 60man anything.

What are you talking about rendering bug? whats that got to do with anything?

We are in the same boat Fergs was when Kaineng got the win. Fergs didnt have a day crew to stop SoS from capping during the day and giving us a huge lead that we were able to hold during primetime with WAR, iSPY and KAIN. DR at that time had some prescence but not enough to make it a real 3 way fight.

Now it is Kaineng that has no ability to stop the night capping, and SoS hasnt even been out like they were back then. Chaster has been trying to get them to come out, but they are a PVE guild, and i can see why they wont want to… PVE’ers wont go out if the action is gunna be too much.

Im happy to see a late-launch server go up a tier. Im happy to see fair weather players jump ship off Kaineng. DR got alot of xfers, and it messed up the balance we had in this bottom tier. Last week we held our own during primetime, and we cared not that everything we took would be capped once we logged off. A 2 guild alliance + Darxio’s guild cant hold off the sudden bandwagon that DR has become with people piling on the xfers to that server.

We know how its gunan go… DR is gunna keep getting xfers. Sure WAR and iSPY can still go and give it a good run and fight our butts off for a solid showing, hck even to take the lead during NA Primetime like we did last week…. but getting night capped gets old fast.

We arent withdrawing from WvW. We do refuse to waste our gold because ArenaNet has still yet to close the free xfers. The point of xfers was to spread the popualtion out and create more competitive brackets. Our brackets was competitive up till this week and its due entirely to ArenaNet still offering free xfers.

We’ll be out there roaming and enjoying ourselves, see you out there.

Destac.2064:

I love our when my server (Kaineg) and we go up against the fergs it is a fun fight and we are about even. But the devonas are completely out numbering us they have more points then ferg and us (kaineg) together. It is obviously a 1 sided battle and we get pinned against them. We all know we would lose in that kind of fight, people I know and some of my friends are going to devonas because they are tired of losing.
Here is why Kaineg will lose.
1. We are the newest server in the game.
2. The more we get stomped the more people that are going to leave.
3. No one wants to move to a losing server.
4. We don’t upgrade our forts because we just lose them 5 minutes later.

Kaineg and the Fergs need to be placed in a lower bracket to avoid this.

Kaineng is not the newest server…. DR and Erradons Terrace and Kaineng all released on same day.

There is no lower bracket… this is the lowest one.

The fact that they have already 2 times come cloe to closing the thread and re-opening shows they really like our little bottom bracket!

WAR and iSPY have not left WvW.

We are out there just as much as we were before.

We have decided that capturing and upgrading things that will just be night capped is pointless.

Instead, we are roaming the maps, with no desire to cap anything beyond a tower, working on our open field fighting to improve ourselves in that respect. If we do cap anything, it wont be for the reasons of anything to do with points.

Last night we spent alot of time in Fergs Crossing BL and had some wonderful fighs away from the keeps and towers, and wiped DR and Ferg groups much larger than ours. We roamed around the sentry island in the bottom half of the map, and held off a large force of both DR and Fergs. After getting bored of that we switched the field to Bluewater Supply camp, and, with some fun use of portals kept luring Ferg and DR zergs into the camp and porting behind them for some fun wipes and badge farming.

Iwas on most of the day today and ran a 5-10man WAR/iSPY group throughout in Fergs BL. We took 1 tower during that time cause we got bored as no DR or Ferg zergs could be found. Had a wonderful fight in Arahs with our 5 vs Fergs 15, but the sea of red kept coming and we wiped. Again using Bluewater Supply camp as bait we kept waiting for the Ferg and Dr karma trains to come and cap it…. a few times the karma training zergs were too much to handle… and other half the time we smoked them. It’s crazy how big those karma trains can get, wow!

Plan on being back out there tonight with our primetime crew looking for some more fights away from the keeps, see you all out there.

Drednyte.7601:

thenoobler.7540:

Maybe our lack of prescence last night should be due to the same excuse you guys whined about last week “oh we have lives you guys are weekend warriors”.

Um…you challenged us on reset, not the other way around. That excuse wont fly. Sorry

I made zero challenges about anything on reset. try again.

Gikeuri.8029:

I just have to say.. from reading everything on the last thread.. Kain would just say “Well, we win during Primetime which is what says who’s better, on the weekend.” Kain didn’t even show up tonight on reset. Literally though, I’m actually curious as to what happened lol.
Anyways, here’s some fun pic’s of tonight’s reset. PRO Basically single handedly took Kains BL and although at the latter half of it there wasn’t a lot of resistance, there WAS a lot of push by Kains alliance in some of the first pics, they killed our zerg about twice? On bottle necks and ambushes, but every open field fight our guild alone destroyed their 5+ Guild alliance. But! They have some freaking amazing fighters in there! We were held at Bay for quite a while, but then you guys disappeared.. Oh and props to fergs because once we went over to your BL there was a ton of nice big fights. We tried taking Bay and go to Lord but got pushed out and I hid and portaled us back in to take down inner gate But you guys had it all sieged up and we got pushed again. Nice work. Well, fun day of WvW. GL This week.

There is no 5+ guild alliance on Kaineng.

iSPy + WAR are allies.

SoS plays during a different timezone.

KAIN is not our ally, altho we help each other now and then.

NoQQ we work with as well, and not (yet) formally allied with.

iSPy/WAR bring about 30 combined.

Dunno what KAIN has to work wioth but we rarely on same map with them when they have a commander online, we go to another map.

thats what you are fighting.

Unless its a large gathering of iSPy/WAR, you are fighting pugs and randoms who are far less co-ordinated and should be easy for your many WvW guilds on DR to take down.

Oh and wonderful to see PRO can put out more than just the “average 10” in WvW you have been saying last week.

You have got to be kidding if you even think for a second this matchup is any where near balanced.

Maybe our lack of prescence last night should be due to the same excuse you guys whined about last week “oh we have lives you guys are weekend warriors”.

Meh.

Last week we owned primetime.

Considering our 2 guilds combined dont even match your 1 guild being PRO… oh sry hats right you guys only have 10 in WvW lol rolls eyes… plus added on to that the many other guilds with a good prescence on Dr out there in WvW daily, nightly.

You guys are gunna move up a bracket. Gratz on that. It will happen no doubt.

Now how about we sock the chest thumping, its not even remotely balanced now with this UxA and FiST xfering over, plus im sure some bandwagoners from Kaineng no doubt but that of course is just speculation.

You wont find iSPY or WAR backing down or taking the week off.

We’ll be out there doing what we can, trying to adjust. Kaineng has been outnumbered before and we turned it around and got our first win against Fergs i think it was, and they outnumbered us then too.

Looking forward to more red conned names to fight as the week rolls on!

eqpablon.9072:

Sooo, about that respect for DR that a certain someone promised…..

I did and it got reported and i got infracted.

Drednyte.7601:

Bones.5762:

I haven’t played at all tonight so i can’t take any of this credit but look at a TRUE prime time lead, also look at the time here. This is from us having to capture all these keeps that are probably fully fortified already with decently high supplies. GJ to those that were there.

Here’s another “primetime” pic. See, the potential points numbers are too easy to fluctuate. Also…prominent guilds in your server state your primetime lasts up until bout 12-1am btw.

You are a Pacifc Time player, your pic shows 11pm time on your minimap… thats not the 12pm-1am EST time, thats 2am EST…. when our primetime is over.

eqpablon.9072:

While you guys spent all your resources abusing rendering issues so you could cap one camp, we went on ahead and grabbed everything else.

We are now outscoring you in points. The gap is going to start to close

You have a large gap to close.

And no while you guys were fighting in the camp you did not take eveything back. you took it back when we left the map and went back to our own BL to lock it back down after KWBH was about to knock down our garrison.

But hey why rely on facts when you can just engage in some revisionist history and accuse everyone of hacking when the fight gets tough and you cant win through numbers.

They held you off that camp for a loooooooooooooong time.

Give props where props is due man.

The constant accusations of hacks by DR is just getting pathetic.

It’s like a broken record from you people.

At one point DR was a great server to fight against and jump on the forums and /bow to some great fights we’ve ahd in the past. Even outnumbered weeks ago you guys held your selves above the rest with your behaviour.

Now?

since PRO has arrived its been a complete 180 degree turn.

constant accusation of hacking and exploiting, i cant even count it now. the constant chest beating by PRO for the last 2 weeks.

Now you are not only getting beaten, but you arent taking it very well.

PRO’s attitude has rubbed off on you as a server. Even now repsected members of your long time guild are joining the bandwagon of screaming HACK and EXPLOIT.

Thier behavior to send hate tells, and report people when they lose a fight for “hacking” and “exploiting”, thier chst pumping… its become an accepted practice by DR i see.

This type of crap deserves no response, im done with this “community” .

eqpablon.9072:

Our thieves would of been successful in holding the camp regardless of rendering bug or not. Your lack of coordination in the supply camp was easy to take advantage of. The easy counter is to stack up and spam aoe’s… Throw some all caps in Map/Team chat and get people to stack up on your commander.

First, Bluevale has a rather large cap ring. We had 30ish ppl in that area spamming AoE’s and it took us 5 minutes of constant AoEing to flush 3 (one of whom was you) out. That was enough time for you guys to assault that camp multiple times. We wiped you several times, although after about 10 minutes of fighting you guys did retake the camp.

Here is the thing, you had multiple thieves abusing the rendering issue. It certainly looked like you were co-ordinating this abuse of rendering. When all the thieves that we flushed out were a part of your alliance, it makes it look like you guys intentionally abused the rendering bug to keep us from capping.

For the first 3-5 minutes it was just the thieves keeping us from capping, and we had 30ish ppl. If you guys rendered properly you would have been f stomped and the camp would have been ours.

And exactly how did you positively without a doubt identify that they were absuing some rendering bug?

Tin foil hat getting hot? … geez

eqpablon.9072:

Neal.Cafferty-
You have a thief that was intentionally abusing the rendering bug. You are doing it as I am posting at the Bluevale Supply Camp in the DR BL. To be clear, it wasn’t just you; however you were the only one I had time to click on and report.

Do you really need to abuse the stealth rendering issue to keep us from capping the supply camp? I thought you guys were JAWESOME and could take us head on?

Oh look anoher hack accusation when someone loses a fight.

Alot of tin foil hats in this thread, and they all seem to be coming from DR.

@Dred

It was a PRO member saying they woulod rather go cap undefended points elsewhere.

PRO member.

that I quoted.

Thats how i tied it to PRO.

Drist.9807:

@NealCaffrey.6450

That moment when you realize that your unsportsmanlike banter shames your guild and makes you look like a king amongst pricks.

There are no more than 30 of us on and in WvW on a good day and on peak hours, so to siege everything at once like JQ or Blackgate can is impossible. We did have one of our best commanders transfer to another server, and another start his own guild (which doesn’t WvW).

Maybe you’re missing something as to how WvW works; points are points. And while the majority of DR’s guilds are fighting it out in EB, that leaves us, randoms, or fragments of guilds to fight in a given BL. So to fight for a garrison for 2 hours, when we can go on another map and cap four times as many points instead, sounds like a good idea doesn’t it?

Guilds adapt to each others strengths and weaknesses, I know you know that. We can’t be everywhere, so we make due with what we have. That being said, I haven’t been on when pro wasn’t able to take a keep or garrison, no matter how long it took. Deflate your ego and stop hating.

So you admit PRO would rather go PvDoor then? thnxs.

Drednyte.7601:

@Wolfend.5287
“brother, ya are bein farmed: ‘l2p’ or get out.”

LOL…that pic is at YOUR server spawn area showing 3 of your server folks hiding in spawn form ONE person. Yet u want to say i’m being farmed, lol. If you mean the legendary guards killing me…well mate hate to tell u but that has not ever happened to me.

those 3 are standing in a “legendary zone”, as you put it. The exploitable spot in the supply camp is NOT a legendary zone per Anet. Mayhap you need to learn to read on what Anet posts mate.

@thenoobler.7540
“Still waiting for Dred’s daily rundown of his PvDoor heroics at 3am.”

You make reading the forums fun. I got online late after the reset and there was a rather unusual strat in full execution going on. Took me all of about 5 mins to realize it wasnt going to be anywhere near successful. But there were a few commanders already up so I wasnt about to go and icon up and cause more confusion…so i logged out and took my kids to a steak house. Wasnt on but very briefly Saturday, spent the day at the lake with my kids but got online late for a few hours. All i did was help clean up DR and work on upgrades. Pushed few small groups of Kain/Ferg off the map on occassion, but mostly just “hung out” with few DR folks.

Now I’m loving how Kaineng is all over the forums since reset…lol. (awesome) And props to your lead and push. You guys are all doing great, keep it up. But one thing to remember…this is the exact thing that’s happened the last 2 weeks, and probably prior to that I’d imagine. You come out strong on the weekend, then go limp starting on Monday and the “we’re outmanned” starts to flood the forums.

But all in all, fun fun fun. DR/Kain/Ferg all 3 servers rockin the maps and engaging in some good fights so I’m told.

Ok Dred. We get it. your excuse and that of most of you DR guys is that you have a life on the weekends. Fair enough.

I’m very willing to be wrong as the week rolls by.

Just remember, as the week does roll by, your excuses will start to disappear son.

@thenoobler

Read it, like 34 years ago. I know full well what happened there and I know full well what happens to the wolf as well as the one that gets kitteny. There wasn’t any mention of conspiracy or otherwise. If you’d learn to read and process information you may have come to that conclusion on your own. Being a person such as yourself in a position of guild leadership, you know that whether or not it’s a “newb” to the guild or not, if it’s wrong, it’s wrong. But I hear what you’re saying…you’re telling us what of it, we don’t care….wolves get eaten too, remember that as there is always a bigger predator.

It was brought to attention because it is an apparent problem that was being ignored because of the status of this match. You can call it what you want and say it’s because we’re “losing”, but again…DR wasn’t the ones pounding our chests when we won last week. We gave props where they were due and went on our merry way.

These issues affect everyone, not just the winner or loser(s)…as I’ve stated several times in above replies. If anything YOU have already may YOURSELF look bad with your responses in this thread, but it’s okay…wolf.

You even read what DR was spouting the last 2 weeks? More like them geting a taste of thier own medicine.

Now all the lame excuses coming out.

“its the weekend we have a life” lolwhut?!

thats ok, as the week goes by, the excuses will end.

If im wrong, ill give credit where its due, simply put.

Themanbat.3206:

@thenoobler: Balidore is extremely good, on his mesmer and thief (I can 1v1 him either way in sPvP though). Only reason you probably didn’t notice me is because I was on a level 12 most of that night. Anyways, when I’m on my mesmer, we’ve been able to kill around 7 at a time. Actually one Kaineng zerg was so bad we ninja’d a tower next to their spawn from around 15 of them with only a few less-than-useful people following us and held it for around a half-hour until their numbers doubled, all the while outside the wall racking up badges. Has anyone else even noticed ENVY, though? We’re a pretty small guild, but half of us win about 98% of 1v2s. So far only one ele from iGod and a few players in Bsty have had decent enough players to catch my attention, with the Bsty players only doing well when they worked together. After a while, though, they were using the spawn for cover. So sad. Have to go after zergs to get good fights most of the time :/

Yup gave my props to Bsty, they were running a tight gank group last night!

hey Im not above giving props to people who outplay me… you guys are doing a great job out there keep it up.

Last night was fun Duoing with my buddy Nightwoof.

We ran around 4am EST till around 6am EST, just wrecking as a duo.

One very memorable fight was when we saw 8 Fergs trying to take DR’s Tower in the Ferg BL.

We thought what the heck, poor DR cant be on all 24hrs a day…. lets help them keep thier tower, that way they wont whine Kaineng is night capping, heck we are helping them out son!

So we get right up into them, and as we get there they break down the gate… awesome… now our 2v8 turned into a 2v1, then another 2v1, then another 2v1 as they all ran up to the lord room without even bothering to turn and see why thier buddies were dropping like flies.

So now its 2v5. They are on the Keep Lord… cool! If we are gunan help defend DR’s tower, might as well ahve thier Keep Lord help out, not like any DR’s wanna help defend it.

So, we waste them 2+keep lord vs 5 Fergs. Now its just us and Keep Lord and he is eyeing our loot bags.

Me and Nightwoof dont even have to hesitate… no one messes with my loot bags man, i got badges to grind.

We set in on the Keep Lord.

Fergs kept coming in and interrupting our little chat with the Keep Lord, how rude of them, but we showed all 8 of them how we deal with rudeness in Warsworn. Guild Charter Chapter 13, subsection 5, paragraph “slap them silly nine ways sideways”

So after we capped the tower, we saw they were back on the gate. Bet those Fergs never thought they’d be back on the outside banging on that very same gate not 5mins later but the colour of the tower now blue. Some things you jsut cant predict or have any control over i guess.

Oh and dont be so judgemental there DR guys… those Fergs werent the only ones we pulled a fast one on. Not a few mins later me and good old Nightwoof went to a Fergs supply camp in the far southermost tip of the map…. for some od reason the DR guys who were flipping it left the ring uncapped and ran off to go gank a poor Dolyak…. me and Nightwoof just sat there in the ring to make sure thier efforts didnt go to waste… but i forgot when we do that it turns to Kaineng control, not DR… sorry guys we tried.. you didnt have to be so angry about it. Ah well, cant please everyone can ya.

ktith.6197:

@Wolfend

Not sure where the 12k thing came from but okay. Some people were reporting being one-shotted (one hit downed state). If a player has 25k health…what’s hitting them for 25k in one literal hit that isn’t siege, crit, or anymore than one player that isnt’ a thief?

Yea we’re losing, but at least we’re not doing all of the above mentionables. I don’t know you, you don’t know me and we’re certainly not a happy family. The exploiting was there day one and we (being players from DR) have gotten screenies of some of the other stuff going on as of overnight (11/4) and it has been dealt with through the proper channels. Again, I just don’t see why the need for such lame tactics is necessary when you’re “ahead” in the match.

It would seem more like a server was butthurt that they got knocked off their EPIC win that was lambasted all over the forums the matchup before this last one. Not once has anyone from DR plastered videos or otherwise about how EPIC they are. We’re calling it like it is and people aren’t liking it….sue me.

If you see people from KAineng exploiting or otherwise, report it.

Solution isnt to come on the forums and whine that the entire kaineng server is behaving badly now that we are ahead.

that makes YOU look bad.

the people you are finding doing this could be anybody… some new xfer, some new recruit of a major guild, some guy who gets off on hacking, something completel innocent and you ahd a false impression.

coming on here and yapping that there is some kind of conspiracy by the entire kaineng to “hack” and “exploit” now that we are ahead…. is just well.. way too far fetched.

Arent the guy earlier in the thread all riled up cause he got blown up by some spike damage.,.. and got all cry cry saying people were hacking and exploiting that too?

You ever heard of the little boy who cried wolf? Its a neat story you should go read it and see what happens to the little boy.

Sirenic.4275:

Wow you kaineng guys sure talk a lot of crap when you got the lead.

Especially you NealCaffrey-6450

Ill be back during the week once I get some good screenies of wiping you out iSpy, but for now, continue talking that crap while you still got the lead… You won’t have it for long.

Cya in either Kain BL or DR BL during the afternoon Monday through Friday.

Not like we’ve been reading nightly updates by you guys for the last 2 weeks in successive thread after successive thread touting PRO’s awesomeness.

Still waiting for Dred’s daily rundown of his PvDoor heroics at 3am.

I like the excuses of “its the weekend” … you know most people play MMO’s on the weekend… and thats when WvW is most busy. but now you guys have gone and stated you will bring it during the weekdays.

Ok. fine.

Show us what ya got during the weekday this week.

If you guys turn it around, you will get nothing but props and respect from me sir.

See you ingame, and enjoy yourself my good man.

Drednyte.7601:

@Chaster Sharpshooter.3640 and Wolfend.5287

Why is it an exploit? Because as soon as you jump down you’re no longer in your “spawn area” per Anets posts. But heck its ok, do what you gotta do to get a loot bag if you know your PvE skills arent up to par for WvW.

Well, SoS and their 30+ are on DR BL just “owning everything” as they like to put it. Sure hope u get some decent loot drops off those NPCs youre fighting. (lol) the 8 of us on the map wont play the zerg farm game with you. But heck..one more day of NPC farming for you then dem dere kiddies gotta go back to school. Hopefully you’ll still be able to bring it, not like u do in the forums on the weekends, bring ingame on weekdays. (now dont get riled up..im jst kiddin with you Kaineng. Play when u can, pwn when u can, but have fun all the time i says regardless of what sever youre on. im rather having fun maself)

Oh…and before you go a cryin again…here’s another screenie of good ole Kain hard at work pwnin!
Pic 1 : 3 v 3….why is Kain hiding at spawn?
Pic 2: 3 v 1 (Kains favor)….still at spawn????

Hey tough guy.

Your pics show 3 randoms at the spawn.

Big deal.

3 randoms arent the entire Kaineng server, no matter what kinda spin you put on it.

try again.

SolarWind.5693:

Dear Kaineng,

You have more players than Devona’s Rest. When a party of 10 of us kills 20 of you but another 30 are behind that 20 and kills the 10 of us, why do you beat your chests and declare how great you are? When your capping zerg of 30+ comes to cap an extremely outmanned server at 7 to 8 AM EST, why do you think you’re the greatest since sliced bread? We have stopped that zerg cold before and with maybe 8 to 10 of us but it was not easy to do.

We have had some epic fights. These are not epic. You win at those times because you have more cannon fodder than we do. Give us an even battle and we wipe the floor with you and send you home crying to momma. We had many such even battles last week and we won handily. Now you have a larger population. The question is, is it just a weekend zerg and we will have even battles on the weekdays or is your population going to remain high?

When a party of 5 of us is assaulting your keep and killing you when you have us outnumbered, THAT is epic. That is worthy of chest beating but I see none from those of us who were there.

So relax the bs chest beating. You win ONLY because you have a higher population. So crow about how many more people you have. How you recruited people to go around an empty server and cap largely undefended structures. That is the story of Kaineng’s winning strategy.

Umm. no.

You sir are wrong.

Please try again.

Sirenic.4275:

Meh. Gf aggro :p. Only time I can spend time with her is on weekends.

I may be on tomorrow afternoon and ill rally everyone to kains. If you see us at kains be sure to be there cause that’s me

Real Life trumps Game Life mate, no doubt. Enjoy your weekend dude, seeya out there during the week heheh

Well another wonderful night of WvW during primetime.

Kaineng held the lead msot of the night by quite a bit… 300+ a tick, in a tough 3 way battle between all 3 servers.

We did survive the PRO onslauhgt in Kaineng BL when you guys took Hills and Bay Keeps from us by force, good job on that one, but we held at garrisson and pushed you off.

Why come to Kaineng BL, when your own BL is getting slapped by iSPY? great job to iSPY on slapping DR kids silly in thier own borderlands. Glad to have had Warsworn jump over with our 4 golems for a quick DR Garrisson take, from what i hear you guys were farming badges from all the siege we layed down after we took it.

iSPY = iWIN !!

Props to [QQ] and [Bsty] you guys ran some tight small groups in Kaineng BL giving us heck tryng to defend our stuff, ganking our stragglers and causeing a ruckus.

Props to [RED], [Fist], [Gasm] for your groups out there as well, you guys never gave up time and again.

[PRO] I wanan give you guys props, always out and never giving up. Question tho, why come to Kaineng BL when your own is being slapped silly? Its funny when Warsworn jumped over to DR BL after we hd our own locked down and empty of invaders for over an hour, we came back to Kaineng BL and there is [PRO] jumping our Bay Keep… when we had left the map and it was undefended, or at the very most defended by randoms and pugs. Why would you guys trade a fully reinforced Garrisson for some crap Bay Keep wasnt even upgraded?

You guys love PvDoor or something?

Last week we hd to explain to you how “Siege 101” works regarding the difference between flashy swords and crossed swords, and how to avoid one or the other.

This week I think you need a lesson on what objectives are more important than others.

Anyways, its late about 12:30am saturday night… i got wife aggro… time to get off GW2.

Look forward to tomorrow nd the rest of the week, been a blast guys!!

Ya Neal, that [Envy] mesmer is just one skilled dude, ive foguht him with 2 guys beside me adn he downed both of them, i said screw this and got out of dodge… saw hima few more times… he couldn’t kill me, and neither could i even come cloe to killing him… but man did he mangle and take down everyone else beside me in every encounter lol

Oh and the whole “wait till during the week that’s when we are gunna catch up” excuse isnt gunna fly this week my DR pals.

You had it easy last 2 weeks. War and iSPY took the first week off entirely, as did SoS. Last week half of us were back, but not SoS at all. Now all of War and iSPY are back, and so is SoS.

Look forward to tongiht’s fighting. Im sure primetime will as suually be a slugfest all 3 ways.

Ya when the match reset, Evermoors Alliance went into our own borderlands and locked it down right away. Once it was pretty much ours, iSPY branched off with a few WAR and went to DR borderland and began slapping DR kids left and right grabbed all the southern towers, both keeps an the garrisson.

WAR had a fun time staying in Kaineng BL and securing it. Alot of DR;s out mainly what i remember was mostly Smilie and his Kawagungas (KWBH). At one point we did lose Hills Keep… cause our main force of randoms decided not to help defend it and instead throw themselves against the legendary defenders and some tower GreenLake in the south. We got it back again tho using a distraction in the south with Vexthal commandering up and taking the randoms and assorted puggers to keep DR busy down there, as we worked our way in to Hills Keep ad got it back. After that we got the potnetial point lead and then the actual lead.

What was up with that flame ram on the hill when you guys kept assaulting the Bay Keep… MrSmilie? was funny. We had to do some flanking to get rid of all those cata,ballista and such that was fun. When you guys broke through the south gate on Bay Keep… i thought we were toast inside…. but we somehow stopped u from advancing in… then got the door back up, and then pushed you guys off.

When i logged to head out to work, the map was ours, all our major keeps+garrison ha reinforced doors/walls/cannon and i qued up some more before logging.

I didnt see much PRO on Kaineng BL, but iSPY said they were out on DR BL.

Props to all we fought last night on DR. KWBH and the others, you guys kept coming and coming not giving up. There was 2 seperate groups running around of around 15-20, got hectic after a while… but we managed to handle both groups with our 20, waypointed and ping ponging back and forth for a while as doors/gates got upgraded slowly.

Thnxs to all on Kaineng BL last night. It wasnt just iSPY and WAR who did the fighting… was so many smaller guilds helping as well… small informal group and soloers who felt confident to follow the guy with the blue icon and help make progress on defence within the borderlands.

I didnt see Darxio and/or the rest of KAIN last night, maybe you guys went to diff borderland? Im sure you guys were off soemwhere adding to Kaineng’s lead, so hats off to you guys as well as always!

Looking forward to the return of Chaster and SOS this week, lets show them what Kaineng is like when we arent carving pumpkins guys!

This week will be a rumbling from the east.

Drednyte.7601:

revcornelius.6519:

I agree with the fact that DR has come together much more so in the last week, but(and it could just be because of the lead) on the majority of maps ive been on throught the week, when i log on we’re outnumbered by DR until we start taking keeps and towers and they leave the map for another. You simply can’t get a +605 lead by good strategy on equal numbers, that requires a large force on the majority of the battlegrounds.

Looking forward to this week, as there truly is no more halloween events.. we’ll see how it turns out.

Oh and Props to RUNN and AP as well as Cindros and his guild for dominating out there as well.

-Shananaigansx

Thanks Shan, much appreciated:)

Totally disagree, every fight i was in the numbers on both sides looked pretty darned even to me (note: i said fights I was in). And if anything DR was outmanned as we were getting hit by Ferg also. I’ve figured out the basic strat Kain uses and found a rather simple solution to breaking it, and passed it on to other DR commanders who’ve implemented it for success. Pushing Ferg seems, to me a least, a bit tuffer as they seem to go berserk regardless of odds…lol (go Ferg!)

Again though…fun week, fun fights….screw the numbers, lets just keep it up!

Oh no you figured out our basic Kaineng strat… we are doomed.

I look forward to this weeks new matchup…. should be very interesting indeed.

dank.3680:

Since this match is coming close to an end, I just want to say thank you to Ferg and Kain. I have had some really awesome battles with a lot of you guys.. Made some friends through whispers on your servers after fun fights etc.. Made a few “friends” who like to come straight at me in crowds and /cheer on my corpse if I happen to die lol. Great fun down in this bottom tier!

P.S Looking forward to this rivalry to continue next week.. Some people I hear want fresh blood, but I for one like this unique opportunity to fight the same people for an extended time and get to know my enemies by sight..

Agreed, nothing but a fun slapdown throwdown blowout awesome matchup again this week.

Our “bottom tier” I wouldnt trade for the “top tier” for anything.

I love how the rivalries have developed, the personalities have come out and the action has exploded, especially during primetime.

Props to DR on thier win. It ws hard fought and you guys deserve it. You relentlessly came at us and Fergs, even when the win was obvious. Before i came to KAineng 5 or 6 weeks ago, i was on Dragonbrand. When thier WvW guild saw the win was clinched…. they stopped playing. When they saw the losss was obvious… they stopped playing. thats lame. Shows no heart. Not the case with PRO, RED, GASM, and so many others on DR.

Fergs I hope you guys get some more people taking charge and bringing u guys back to where u once were. 3rd place in this matchup didnt come because you guys gave up… the score isnt too far off from Kaineng’s 2nd place… you guys gave it all you could /props.

It aint over till its over, but def wanted to plug that all in there.

You guys on DR shouldnt be getting too ahead of yourselves.

Primetime we are holding our own very well on Kaineng, considering a 450man guild xferd in to DR, which outnumbers our entire alliance combined.

Except for one, that being SoS.

You havent, since you have gotten here, even seen SoS out in any semblance of force.

The point lead you have now will not exist when they are capping during thier timezone on a daily basis.

Before PRO xferd in, just before the Halloween event, we slapped Fergs hard, and they at that tiem hant yet lost the guilds they did in the last 2 weeks, and both DR and Fergs were still listed as high pop servers, while Kaineng was medium pop and thus lowest pop in the game, wouldnt doubt if it still is either.

Enjoy the mutual back slapping fellas, while it lasts.

Darwinism.8619:

Shanaigans… i am a [PRO] member. i agree [GASM] [WvW]and [Red] should have their praise’s sung about. And i understand your thinking about [PRO] given the misunderstandings, accuations, and heated exchanges that have occured. But the guild is full of many great ppl. And given the chance to know us, im sure you would not condem us all.

i can tell you for a fact, i would not follow someone that i felt was Cheating/Hacking ect… i can tell you from my experience, that Phizyn has been a Good leader… that trys to keep everyone inline. As for Dred leaving the DR server to head for Kain’s.. i can tell you that most of us in TS were angry that he left and went there of all places… while we were in the middle of a WWW.. i can tell Shanagians, that i told anyone that Killed him and sent a Screen Shot to me.. id mail them a Bounty for Killing Dred.. I can tell you that many ppl sought out Dred just to Kill him for Transfering… i can tell you that if i were Phizyn… i would not have been so quick to forgive Dred and let him return.. but to me this is an example of Phizyn’s leadership skills that he forgave Dred…

Phizyn cant control every random Donkey and what they post in Fourm… as i am an example… and again.. a Commander Icon can be any fool w/ 100gold… We at [PRO] follow Phizyn because he has demonstrated he is a good leader.. he was Man enough to apologize when he realized he was wrong for accusing your team of Hacking… credit him for that… Credit him for being a worthy opponent.. he has earned that… as have many [PRO] members… just my 2 cents

Darwin Ism

You sound like a good guy Darwin Ism.

Im quite sure the vast majority of players in your guild are just fine and nice people to game with. Im sure we’d get along and have some laughs in TS/vent.

I salute you guys putting forth a great effort in WvW…. wiping and retrning, wiping an returning… relentlessly assaulting … you dont quit.

that’s what earns respect.

The behaviour of your guild leader and 1 of your commanders is not what earns respect.

You cant expect for our guild to be smeared, our people to be harassed, and not have some sort of blow back from it (thats a general you, not you specifically lol).

Up till now we have been very amicable towards those we fight, and that attitude we will continue going forward, giving props where due.

Thnxs for saying your part of it Drednyte.

Grantd it was mostly all lies.

Look forward to fighting more and more as the weeks go by.

Im sure the excuses and lies and rage will keep us entertained.

its zerg vs door at times yes Forest. as our servers dont have round he clock coverage.

but during my primetime… its the funnest fights ive had in years in any game.

but ya lets try and keep the zerg xfers away from the bottom tiers lol

nothing to see here, these are not the droids you are looking for :P

meh, i get it, when you lose a arguement, attack the spelling.

Yes see you out in the field.

Maybe in time you will learn how the game works better and stop all this childishness.