Guild Wars 2

Dhampyr.2104:

Skapocalypse.5236:

Except we didn’t just hold on our east Keep in your BL. We flipped your garrison twice that night and your northeast tower twice. So I don’t get this mentality that it’s all we held. There was a reason why you had a wooden garrison most of the night.

Yeah, we used to do that in T8 too. Just couldn’t hold it. Again, just like now. :-)

thenoobler.7540:

Remember 2 of the guilds that made up the bulk of Kaineng’s T8 fiestiness are now on Dragonbrand for 2 months… DB has plenty of people from back in the day when Kaineng was stuck in T8 with DR and Fergs. We dont need history lessons we were there. We’ve been using the old T8 Kaineng strats on the new Kaineng 2.0 and its funny seeing all the new Kaineng falling to tactics that we developed while on Kaineng when Kaineng earned its rep as a tough little cookie.

So, you’re agreeing with me. I mean, that’s just a paraphrased version of what I posted from the get go. xD We used those exact same tactics. Won the small battles, lost the war. Just like now.

Welcome (back???) to T8.

Umm no I never disagreed with you. My point was to please spare us the history lesson of what Tier8 was like. We were there. [RE] was not.

Dhampyr.2104:

GuardianOMS.8067:

But DB still had most of their BL, so I don’t understand your complaint. If it’s a T8 strategy then you should have no problem beating it, right?

Sorry, not a complaint at all. An observation. And as for beating it – it’s very effective small-scale. We used to give Devona’s Rest fits at single points on the map. Thing is, we still lost overall, because we didn’t/couldn’t do enough anywhere else. Kinda like what’s going on here.

Edit: We used to even make the same excuses… No talent zergs, only numbers, we win when it’s equal… We still lost tho. I learned early on in my WvW career that excuses don’t win.

Remember 2 of the guilds that made up the bulk of Kaineng’s T8 fiestiness are now on Dragonbrand for 2 months… DB has plenty of people from back in the day when Kaineng was stuck in T8 with DR and Fergs. We dont need history lessons we were there. We’ve been using the old T8 Kaineng strats on the new Kaineng 2.0 and its funny seeing all the new Kaineng falling to tactics that we developed while on Kaineng when Kaineng earned its rep as a tough little cookie.

Very close match:

Hats off on a great fight in DRBL Garrison guys… was a fun 3 way fight for almsot an hour culminating in a great 3way fight in Lord Room!

Score update:

Looking forward to a fun matchup against our old server Kaineng, welcome to T3 guys see you on the battlefield!

Thanks for all the fun fights in FA BL tonight guys to both Maguuma and Fort Janthir!

Thanks also to all the guilds who fought alongside Warsworn tonight in there, [WE] and [BP] among all the others small/medium!

We kept fighting over that Champs Demise supply camp so many times… it was def a Mag/DB grudge to see who will hold it by end of the night hah!

Awesome fight in FA BL at Champs between DB and Mags, that was a fun throwdown guys, thnxs !

Looking forward to a great grudge match!

I personally wanna drop to tier4 next week to fight Kaineng.

Alot of DB guilds used to fight Kaineng on thier various old servers like [PRO] and [Krew] and [Gasm]. Some old DH guilds on both sides [WE] and [RE]. and old Kaineng guilds who came back to DB month and a half ago [WAR/iSPY].

It would be a fun reunion for alot of us. And a good solid fight to be sure.

Very fair summation of what happenned back then Stormwolf well said.

War/iSPY didnt like the decision, felt the need to seek a place where the other WvW guilds wouldnt just up and quit due to exhaustion, low morale, whatever.

I would add tho, that we could ahve won that week… it was VERY close.. but Chaster and SoS decided very early in the match that it was pointless… (Chaster is an awesome guy and we would never hold it against him) it was the week afterwards when KR/Kain also decided to take the week off.

War/iSPY understood why… to put that many hours in is just insane. We had some of our people putting the same in to WvW as well. While we decided to regulate our time in-game, the other wvw guilds mentioned to go cold turkey LOL.

We knew DR was gunna leave the tier8 also. We didnt look forward to a future where we, without transfers, would just bounce back and forth between Tier8/7 as the dominant Tier8 and dominated Tier7 with Hod/ET falling in ranks at the time. Little did we know Tier7 was not what everyone thought it would be once DR got there and wrecked it. DR/Kain/FC were def not Tier8 servers, just stuck there keeping each other there due to week after week having such close matches and none of us gaining much rank fast enough to get out of tier8.

Alot of that forecasting is what helped make our decision to go back to Dragonbrand.

Next week Kaineng will most likely be facing Dragonbrand. War/iSPY has since merged into Warsworn [WAR], we might open up iSPY in future if we reach the 450 capacity for WAR.

Some old school kaineng might remember [KREW] from BP when they used to trounce us back in tier8 …. well they are on DB now and we work with them often during NA primetime, and they have grown alot since those days.

Some of the old kaineng might also remeber [PRO] from DR. Well they are also on DB now… we run with them and have put aside our old differences and work very wll together now and often share same ts3 server during primetime.

Some of the old kaineng might also remember [GASM] from DR. Well they are aldo on DB as well. We also work with them quite a but during Na Primetime.

DB has other guilds such as [WE] who came from Darkhaven same as [RE] did. So in that we will see yet another reunion so to speak.

DB has many other NA guilds you will come to respect im sure such as [EA] – elephant ambush and [UhOh]. 2 great NA guilds.

We all work very well together, zero drama.

Im sure our Asian/.Oceanic guilds, notably [NNK] will look forward to fighting the infamous WM and saying hello to fellow Taiwanese SoS/Chaster!!

Next weeks DB/Kain/YB fight will be a very very very fun fight regardless who wins or loses. Alot of familar guilds who once shared the same server will now be fighting against each other on opposite sides. Old Foes will return for a rematch. And you get to meet our new freinds!

Cant wait to be matched against Kaineng, see you guys on the battlefield.

EnRohbi.2187:

Littlefeather.8623:

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

With all due respect (And I mean that non-sarcastically, I desire no drama to arise from this),
DB got a bunch of new guilds too since the last time RE fought us, and our NA crew is much larger than it was then as well. It should be a different experience than it was the last time we met.

Maguuma as well, received many more transfers than we did (But I’m sure you watch the situation, so I don’t need to educate here).
I think the next two weeks for Kaineng are going to be quite a bit more difficult than people expect.

Kaineng makes easy points overnight like DB did before. And while Kaineng’s Asian guilds will probably be able to overcome DB’s nighttime guilds (If the whisperings I hear about WM are correct), it certainly won’t be a +695 blowout all night like you’ve been having.

I’m making no predictions about what daytime will be like,
Because DB has never fought Kaineng or many of the guilds there; with the exception of RE. And even RE hasn’t fought DB as we are now.

To emphasize this.

DB gained 2 guilds FROM Kaineng. The old Kaineng that fought DR to a standstill week after week while bing outnumbered. Not the new Kaineng full of transfers who have done nothing but beat up on smaller servers since DR left Tier8.

2 weeks after War/Ispy left Kaineng and went back to DB after a being on Kineng for 9 weeks fighting toothe and nail getting Kaineng its first ever win in a WvW matchup and then fighting the DR with its own mass transfers… 2 weeks after we left Kaineng is when RE and the NEO alliance got to Kaineng.

The current state of DB is very different than when RE last fought us. We have gained a significant increase in our Na population with the xfer of guilds to cover NA primetime. We also have a tested and battle hardened Oceanic/Asian prescence that hasnt grown soft fighting dead or dieing servers.

And the current state of Kaineng is nothing like it was when it gained a well earned reputation as a “little server that could” for months in T8 fighting much larger opponents. They have yet to be genuinely tested.

I look forward to fighting our old server, see you on the battlefield.

Hadan.2841:

My guild and i have spent alot of time defending DB bls and at times it can be tough when CD and FA are both smashing us from 2 sides but at the same time its been a blast. Its great to fight good servers. It is the price of being in 2nd place, CD wants 2nd and FA wants to keep first. It makes sense for each server to hit us. Personally i have farmed over 500+ klls since reset. As long as the fights are fun and no1 is cheating/exploiting or whatever then idc if we finish 1st/2nd/3rd(obv i will try to play for first). Yes FA has great numbers and they did have some guilds transfer to them but what server hasnt had that? the transfers are becomming paid. People/guilds are looking for a final server they can call home before that happens. Dont hate FA as a server because they were able to attract ppl to grow their WvW community. Anyways keep up the good fights!

Well said Hadan!

Cant wait till free xfers are done with and paid xfers kick in on the 28th.

Doubt DB will lose any population, may even gain some as having a good oceanic prescence kinda draws guilds to a server.

Been a fun fight this past week…. i know me and my guildies had a blast defending and keeping Hills Keeps in CDBL throughout the weekend.

I like logging on any time of the day and see action all over the map… so its been hella fun in that regard.

Comment was made in ts3 few days ago how every point counts in this matchup as its so close. Hopefully DB can earn its way into staying in Tier3, if not, we’ll visit T4 again and earn our way back into T3.

Miss Terribad, please keep in mind I speak from experience from fighting these guys for months while WAR was on Kaineng fighting outnumbered for a long time against DR … it was nothing but an excercise in fighting childish behaviour and underhanded gameplay … it seems PRO split and the vocal trolling part went to Yak’s Bend, while what I hope is the Darwin’ish part is whats coming to Dragonbrand.

Doesnt change how much i get to giggle at how they crumbled and imploded the first time they met any opposition and not servers they were able to outnumber and zerg against.

Welcome to Dragonbrand guys!

LOL

Funny to see PRO explode and xfer off the one time they lose a matchup. I predicted it months ago.

Not really too excited about PRO coming to Dragonbrand…. all they ever did was troll forums (with one exception being Darwin) and muck up mapchat on DR with constant arguing and drama.

Lazuline.3876:

Hey all. We just logged off after fighting with DB’s Asia-Pacific crew for the last few hours. We detached from the DH Borderlands group and gathered in DB’s BL, BP’s BL (which was generally all-green like ours), and Eternal Battlegrounds. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts and despite gathering all that we could to join us on this offensive, we simply could not fight DB’s Asia-Pacific crew conventionally. We put into motion all that we’ve learned from fighting Ehmry’s Asia-Pacific crew but the sheer numbers difference of DB’s Asia-Pacific crew renders all tactics void. Bar none, you guys have numbers beyond imagine that we cannot at all hope to match.

That being said, we’ll be switching strategies for the remainder of the week during our shift. We’ll continue to do battle with DB’s Asia-Pacific crew. Just that, we’ll no longer do it conventionally. Cheers mates and we are looking forward to a fun-filled adventure week with DB.

P.S. To any BP Soldier that fights at these grave times of all-green, know that at least at these times, we will not attack BP. You are free to attack us, but we will focus our efforts mainly on DB. Hopefully, we can switch the +600 DB +30 DH + 30 BP into something more equitable.

And here is a man who sees the problem and finds a way to deal with it, other than whine about night capping…. good show mate!

TheFreshBrew.1958:

Grit.9061:

Kovu.7560:

I’d just like to point out to BP and DH that after last week’s demoralizing setback, I hear that many of our asians are taking a few days off. What does that mean for you? Work hard and you might find that some of your keeps still have waypoints when you wake up.

… no promises.

~ Kovu

I believe they decided to take a break towards the end of the match, rather than afterward. That’s part of the reason why our score dropped off during the last couple of days. Honestly, if anyone needs a little break.. now’s a good time. We’ll need everyone well-rested if we intend to win our next match in tier 4.

Dragonbrand’s NA crew is getting stronger each day, so if BP and DH don’t double-team us consistently then this match is already decided. You guys almost beat us once before! Don’t even think about giving up.

DB isn’t strong, DB has a night zerg, that’s it. That’s all it ever is. Maybe they’re night zerg is strong, but otherwise, you’re fairly average.

Also, other things that make you appear stronger, is DH losing large guilds, DH tired of waking up in the morning and not having our fully upgraded keep because of a Night Zerg.

So we don’t need posts blowing smoke up our kittens and saying ‘nice fights’ and ‘lets have fun’ when everyone knows every morning the wvw will be starting out with anything but fun.

Since GW2 doesnt have Oceanic servers, they need to choose either Euro or Na servers.

So the same whining can be said from thier perspective regarding your own servers’ NA zerg…. why do Oceanic players have to wake up to see the map completely flipped? Just proves your own servers is only good at zerging during thier own primetime.

Get off your high horse.

should have seen the grind in LOTRO’s pvp …. took literally years to gain rank at a certain point unless you ahd no life and played nonstop 12hrs a day.

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Draygo.9473:

You did abandon Kaineng. Unless your using some wierd definition of abandon. You left, that is abandoning. After all the words you gave about sticking it out for the long haul, recruiting a lot of your members from our PvE zones, you took that back to dragonbrand.

I dont nessisarily disagree with your decision, you have to do whats best for your guild. Stop sugarcoating it and pretending you didnt abandon us.

Lol, on the other hand they are “returning” to their original server. Think of them are here as “visitor” and just took some “souvenirs” back home, lol.

But, yeah, I feel you there Xiir.

Remember the days when we both held hand in hand and celebrated our first victory in Kaineng history in Lion’s Arch? Those days will always be remembered by all of SoS.

Chaster is one of the nicest, friendliest and most helpful people i have ever encountered in an MMO.

Why on earth people in this thread from Kaineng feel the need to berate him is beyond comprehension.

Chaster’s ingame behaviour is part of the heart and soul of Kaineng while I was there. SoS is always doing toursof zones, opening up temples in orr for people, throwing down poral for jumping puzzles woth wvw and pve jumping puzzles.

Ya Chaster, we did… lol was a great victory in a 3way brawl before DR got huge influx of numbers and skewed the matchup. We worked hard for it and will always remember it…. too bad we didnt ever get any more population into Kaineng after that win, oh well.

Maybe catch ya again one day Chaster!

Seems some Darkhaven guilds are leaving en masse from DH…. they may end up
on Kaineng never know.

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

ET, I really like you guys. I’d like this matchup to continue, the fights have been outrageous. Anyone joining you that you know of to strike some numbers balance? I think you fit in with us and Fergie very well.

Secondly…
The crappy thing about Kaineng’s guild exodus that went on for awhile is that it actually was abandoning the smaller guilds that have been there through it all, the ones not mentioned on the forums in the weekly matchups but were still out there every night feeding your keeps supply that apparently you and only you fought so hard to defend. We might not have had the numbers or coverage because we were smaller, but suddenly we were left high and dry because of the politics of the large guilds who couldn’t play nice with each other or figure out how to balance the game and their lives like adults. THEN people in the smaller guilds stopped playing, because Supply Camp Wars is dirty work and never ends. We’ve adapted since and got some fresh faces and are obviously fine, and I have no anger towards the free will of anyone to play where they want. It has seeded mistrust of transfers in general, but that has yet to be seen if it will affect us negatively. I hope the alliance found the support they were looking for back in DB. My point is, don’t lump me or the other 5-10 man guilds who dedicated everything to supporting you guys in with PUGs and fair weathers and expect me not to be a bit cheesed about the victim complex you all are sporting as if you were the only people on the field.

As Forest Gump would say, that’s all I got to say about that.

there were always very wonderful small guilds on kaineng. And its great to see them back out and fighting. I disagree with some of what you put there…. but such is your opinion you are open to having…. good luck and give’em heck in Tier7 dude!

Draygo.9473:

You did abandon Kaineng. Unless your using some wierd definition of abandon. You left, that is abandoning. After all the words you gave about sticking it out for the long haul, recruiting a lot of your members from our PvE zones, you took that back to dragonbrand.

I dont nessisarily disagree with your decision, you have to do whats best for your guild. Stop sugarcoating it and pretending you didnt abandon us.

Oh delarme…. we left… becuase we were the ones abandoned. No sugar coating there.

Good to see you all having fun again tho, and happy to see Kaineng will be in tier 7 soon, hats off to you all.

StormWolf.7645:

… Where were all the other small Guilds that seem to be popping up all over the place now? DR leaves and we get zergs of soo many people…and most of those are NOT transfers. If those people had been out fighting from the start, DR likely would not have beaten us.

So don’t blame Chaster for not wanting to waste his time trying to accomplish things that he knows are beyond our reach, instead blame the people who are REALLY fairweather players showing up to bash on ET in Map-chat because they’re losing against Zergs that outnumber their total WvW population in 1 map. You aren’t awesome for beating ET, if you stayed and fought DR tooth and nail when you knew you couldn’t win you ARE awesome.

Quoted for emphasis.

Would have really been nice to have them a few weeks ago when we were so very close to beating DR and pulling off a win for the second time. A hard fought win it would have been. Not the cakewalk im reading about right now.

lcc.9374:

Sigh….well at least we still have quite a bit of people who is willing to fight when times are tough

What i have learnt by now is that most of our Kaineng large guilds are not to be relied on. Just have seen it happen too much.

Kwbh = transfer to dev
Ispy/Warr = dump us using dispute with Kain as excuse
Larp/Noqq = idk…….we want to fight other people
SoS = well there still here…….but i guess there not the type to fight when the going is rough

Not to mention that Kain/Ispy/Warr etc never even fielded huge numbers in the first place

Stand strong Kaineng randoms, puggers, casuals, id say we are the backbone of our force

We have got some mighty numbers this week………i guess DR leaving has made everyone come out again

I have lurked here cause i spent 2 month on Kaineng and stll very much miss it.

But I gatta say, you do not have the full picture here.

War/iSPY didnt feild huge numbers? we fielded around 30 per niight combined. and wokred with NoQQ/LARP most of the time as they ran thier own 15ish. 45ish WvW players coordinated in Kaineng is not large numbers?

We were hre for 2 months… daily recruiting, trying to get the PVE crowd out, daily leading either with or without commander tags up. Pulling long shifts in wvw into the wee hours. Some of our leaders got drained. We fought DR’s huge numbrs for 2 straight months worth of losing matches against being outnumbered.

We set forth forum threads to try and bring more guilds to kaineng, no guilds xfered to kaineng and stayed after War/iSPY came. during those 2 months DR got guild after guild after guild. even a few left Kaineng for DR (kwbh, apex to name a few).

We did not have the time or energy to run a big server wide alliance…. but we most definetely made it a point to respond to request by other guilds in wvw when they needed our help and offer to pitch in to thier efforts as well. I didnt have the time to be the one to organize Kaineng’s wvw, nor did any of my other officers nor those of iSPY. We have lives. No one else stepped up while we here to bring all the guilds together,…. that blame needs to be shared.

abandoned Kaineng? We did not abandon Kaineng. We put everything we could into Kaineng.

Where were all these numbers when we were on Kaineng? I am thinking you may see more numbers compared to Fergs/ET but its probably not much more than kaineng had when facing DR…. and when comparing to DR the number kaineng has now is still small by comparison.

We left Kaineng yes partly due to KAIN/KR blatantly announcing they are boycotting wvw after being “burned out” pulling crazy shifts in wvw for one week. We had the same feeling from a few of our leaders putting crazy hours for weeks… we never boycotted.

I cant count how many times we were left hanging by other wvw guilds on Kaineng leaving us in the middle of a fight, or a defence, just out of spite. Due to nothing more then e-jealousy. We held no ill-will towards anyone on Kaineng and wante nothing than to work with others. LaZY trying to bully other guilds into bossing them around left a bad taste in peoples mouths. We did the opposite… we just wanted to help, and not to boss others around (or be bossed around either)… but work cooperatively. Being left hi and dry by other wvw guilds in the middle of fights was starting to grind our gears.

I love Chaster…. one of the most helpful guys ever. But completely unreliable, even by his own admission, when it comes to WvW. Can you hold it against him? nope. They are a PVE guild and thus no excuses are needed.

We had SoS boycotting WvW, KAIN/Kr boycotting WvW and to boot throwing barbs at us as thier reason along with being “burned out”. LARP had already xfered by this time to Fergs as well.

We did not abandon Kaineng. We put as much effort into Kaineng as we could. I miss Kaineng and the small community we had here. I really do.

With so many of the “main” guilds on Kaineng throwing in the towel…. were we to take on 2 servers with just our 2 guilds and the randoms/pugs and the smaller guilds ? No we didnt look forward to that.

Was it our responsbility to be the ones to organize? No it wasnt and we dont have that time to dedicate, maybe in the future but not right now.

We did what was best for us and our guildmates. I wasnt going to sacrifice losing half the guild to demoralization for the sake of fighting a lost cause to the last man.

War/iSPY went to dragonbrand…. not to bandwagon. seriously? we orignally came from Dragonbrand…. jst made sense to go back to a fully upgraded guild rather than to start off new somwhere else.

I wish Kaineng all the luck possible. You are doing good due to larger numbers. Unlike DR you dont keep up a facade about your numbers advantage but instead fully acknowledge it with grace and style. Hats off to you guys.

On topic: What’s the current score?

Loving this matchup … hope we are paired with BP for a few more week for some drag down slap happy 3way brawls.

Madzharov.7530:

This is my first post on a forum thread ever and considering our opponents from previous weeks (The AR Troll who keeps stalking us and can’t get over the fact that he got facerolled repeatedly and there is nothing he could and still can do about it should be evidence of that), it’s pretty obvious why.

I can’t decide which one between Darkhaven and Dragonbrand I like going against up more. The first night I probably experienced a minor cultural shock: “They sweep for enemy mesmers?! Wait, they actually utilize mesmers legitimately, without exploits?!”

I will probably forever remember Darkhaven’s amazing mesmers and how they get inside the keep with only one task in mind – find and secure a hiding spot. I’m sure some of you actually had quite the laugh at our expense when we found you and you still survived for so long. And Dragonbrand, for an Oceanic server, you have a day crew which actually induced conversations in our midst such as “Who said they were Oceanic? If they are, what’s with the good people that are on now?!” I shudder at the thought of you having the same presence for both day and night.

The weekend hasn’t even passed yet and the fights so far have already washed the horrible taste of the boring, dull, disgraceful battles from the previous month. My only hope is for Darkhaven to rediscover its WvW strength and come against us in full force and for Dragonbrand to keep up the pressure throughout the whole week. While our numbers may dwindle with the passing of the weekend and the passion may grow cold during the Wintersmith event (sorry, couldn’t resist), those who remain will fight tooth and nail. Even if we end up losing, with fights as challenging and amazing as these, there wouldn’t really be a loser here. After all, in the end it’s a game which is meant to bring us joy. =]

P.S.: I’m not trolling, just pumped up after fighting servers that are actually good and don’t cry in corners like small, sobbing b.. I’m not allowed to swear here right? Keep it up, we’re looking forward to and are excited for the new challenges you will provide us this week. Also, there are most likely a lot of mistakes, but I’m sleepy. I’m sure someone from AR (that’s right, AR) will point them out.

I remember fighting BP when our guild had just gotten to Kaineng 2 months ago in T8. Always got respect from BP, and gave it back. Wish more people would post like this guy ^^.

All we can want is to have a fun 3-way brawl. All our servers will go up and down rankings in large part due to nothng under our control. We cant control guilds who switch off and leave a server hurting for numbers that once fielded enough to amke the match a standup brawl. DH is going through this now… I read one of your guilds xfered to Kaineng… kaineng? lol.. we just came back to DB from Kaineng… they are in for a shock compared to thier teammates they had on DH who dont give up. Much less the completely barren PVE side of the server.

We also cant control guilds who xfer into opposing servers.

What we can do is just to log in and enjoy good 3way brawls. Whatever tier we get thrown around into, either upwards or downwards.

Some nights my guild just goes into WvW to roam and look for fights and zergs to bust, not a care in the world to cap anything… just to look for the fights that we find enjoyable.

Loking forward to fun fights vs DH and BP.

LOL @ this thread.

A little premature there little buddy.

Kaineng, DR and Fergs are def not the TRUE tier8 servers…. they were just stuck down in T8 due to how the scoring worked out during the 24hrs matchups and its all being slowly worked out now with the real T8 servers falling down.

While numbers do help… coordination goes a long way too.

While in BP BL… we did notice the scouts KREW had out out at the southern objectives, so that they could respond quickly with thier main force… alowing thier main force to be mobile and alot more responsive.

Its great strategy. The down side is you cant do this 24hrs/day.

Dragonbrand is known for its amazing asian timezone, which might negate the great teamwork that BP has during NA primetime.

Like I said, looking forward to how this matchup shaps up by end of the weekend!

Some fun fights in BP BL before the reset, thnxs alot guys.

You are doing a good job keeping your BL locked down Borliss.

Props to KREW, been a while since we last fought u guys when we were on Kaineng lol.

Looking forward to some more fights during this matchup!

Good luck to all 3 servers this week!

Was fun time during reset on DH BL. Took most of it then you guys started getting numbers back from your other efforts in other maps and kicked us out. Was fun while it last for a few hours tho.

Lotsa fun open field fights against your zergs.

Hats off to the NSP guys in the south of DH BL who kept us on our toes as well creating a second front for us to focus on.

Looking forward to a fun matchup this week. Hopefully we can put out a good NA Primetime prescence enough to amke a difference here on DB.

ktith.6197:

Sad to hear that some of Kaineng’s more active WvW guilds are leaving for larger waters. We all know the “tension” that comes behind a decision to leave a server, especially when you know what kind of impact you’ve had (guild or individuals). I’m sure you all will have fun up there in T5 but you all will also be causing the same landslide win that happened with Devona. We know how that turns out, but again in the same light, sometimes it’s just nice to be on the “winning team” for a week or so. I know that when I left and the few that came with me we went to a server that wasn’t winning and that was in the middle…maybe for a happy middle ground, but alas when BP got all their numbers raised it has made AR the winners this week and so badly that GoM and ET have offically stated they’re taking the week off. Plus no one every considers going to a server that’s losing, but just several brackets up with more population to work with.

Anyhow, good luck to you guys up in T5 and I sincerely hope it works out for you there. T8 now looks to be something like this is a month: FC/ET/Kaineng

Dragonbrand is not the wining server in thier tier, they lost last week. Ahead right now due to weekend activiuty and large oceanic prescence. We are filling a need for more NA primetime prescence.

Maybe we will see you soon Ktith when your servers goes up, till then have fun mate!

Sumwun.3846:

thenoobler.7540:

Farewell Kaineng.

War and iSPY have decided to leave the server.

This sucks.
It really does.

I have always enjoyed looking into a small group of red and seeing WAR and iSpy. Watching that red group rapidly work it’s way towards me, run me over, have 6 people drop flags in my chest and keep on wrecking.

I have always considered WAR, iSpy, and noQQ to be the teams K sent in when, Sylvester Stallone, Bruce Willis, and the rest of the Expendables gang were too busy killing droves and droves of Asian’s. personally, I have never seen any type of poor sportsman ship from them, and I can’t recall seeing much childish cry baby behavior from them on the forums either. I’m bummed.

I wish you all didn’t hate DR, I would feel honored to share a field with you guys. Leaving the shallow end of the pool is also a bit saddening. I know that servers are falling towards the last tier, and it seems almost inevitable that this will force a move for one and maybe two servers to go up.

I can’t celebrate that type of a victory. I don’t want to look bigger because things around me got smaller, I want to get bigger and beat on the things that were once larger than I. DR isn’t at a point that it doesn’t need good people, smart players and team mates.

Man,

I wish you all the best.
But I wish harder you guys would reconsider your destination.

-nobody in particular.

No hate towards DR. you guys have earned going up a tier. Sure you guys got numbers few weeks back. But it still stayed competitive. I didnt care we were losing the matchups… if i cared id go crazy lol. I loved the 3 way battles.

I also enjoyed the rivalry.

Trash talk and QQ is all part of pvp. This will never be a reason to switch servers, as it will be in every server lol.

One day we will see DR again im sure. You guys do great, same as Fergs. the true T8 servers ahvent gotton to T8 yet. DR is def T7, possibly T6 material. Im sure you guys can handle yourselves there, you might end up being outmanned by T6, but doubt that will slow you guy down.

We all learnd and grew alot in our 7 week matchup fergs/dr/kain. Alot of the higher servers do rely on numbers for the most part, and i dont think have grown in the same way.

Guess I’ll put this here.

Farewell Kaineng.

War and iSPY have decided to leave the server.

I’m not going to be going into the details of why. It will just develope into a flame war and this thread will get locked. If you want to know why, PM me.

Im sure some will flame regardless, its expected.

Our destination is Dragonbrand.

Our transfer will be taking place throughout the week, and we will be mostly on DB by reset this coming friday. You might see some of us throughout the week, dont go easy on them, send them of with “love” lol.

Hats off to Fergs. You guys have come full swing, and out of all 3 of our servers, you guys deserve the greatest recognition possible for stepping it up, BIG TIME.

Good luck to DR in the next tier, maybe we will be matched against you guys again one day if you ever fight against Dragonbrand, and if so, will be happy to enter the field of battle against you once again.

It was an honor to fight both of your servers, thnxs fot the good times, and the fun memories we had throughout the past 2months!

Dont know if they need more maps. Would be nice, but not needed.

WvW needs something more along the lines of personal progression that stays with you beyond each matchup.

I hope they add soemthing along that line.

Im perfectly happy waiting 6months into the game for a major update.

last game i played (lotro)… didnt update it for 6years lol

Psychophant.5682:

Ugh. I’m in a better mood now. KAIN will be returning to KBL, but I’ve made it clear that participation this week is entirely voluntary.

Xiir, I apologize for any animosity displayed towards Evermoor. That’s not the intention.
The supposed group of 15 lesser guilds that were tasked with KBL did not appear. KAIN, KR, and sometimes Thor and Leaf, were all that had any number at all in KBL at any time (save the last-minute intervention of you guys when we got back from the jumping puzzle).
A spiteful person by nature, this irritated me. There is no accountability in… well, in any guild that isn’t the aforementioned, WAR, or iSpy. And I’ve picked up the fact that we can’t directly make allegations on the forums, but I’ll just say that NO other big guild was reliable. Some were helpful, but not reliable.

there are no other big guilds on Kaineng.

KR/Kain … SoS…. War/iSPY.

thats it. thats kaineng’s manpower besides randoms/pug zergs.

Good try with the smaller guilds trying to get them together, sorry didnt work out.

Darxio.5672:

You can return to KBL fearless leader, but I’m not.

I refuse to put in the time like I did last week ever again. KBL needs 24 hour baby-sitting and I’m not going to do 12-16 hours of it a day.

The 12-16hr burnout is your own fault and no others.

So what happens in a few weeks? Will you again quit WvW and encourage your guild and its allies to again boycott WvW simply because you lost a keep and no one respond to your call for defence?

Another rage post, where you refuse to clarify those you are wagging your finger at?

Cerokhol.7015:

I think I should clear up some of what Darxio was saying….

The Commanders of KAIN are more than a little frustrated at how last week turned out…. Kaineng as a server tried to devide up the clans to defend different parts of the WvW maps….

KAIN had the northern part of our BL and KR and some other smaller guilds had the southern part, while WAR, iSpy, and noQQ were going to focus on EB…

This strategy worked great for the first half or so of the week…. however as the week went by we noticed less and less of EB was ours and sometimes we held nothing at all…. This isnt to say so much that WAR, iSpy, and noQQ weren’t doing their jobs just that for some reason, maybe they had less ppl on or wanted to do some PvE, they were losing ground….

And that in itself would be okay whatever good try maybe try something new next week…

but the Commanders in KAIN litterally were in our BL for 8 to 12 to longer shifts without leaving cause of constant battles and pushes….. Like Darxio said…. a group of maybe 10 of us… left for 10 min to get the jump puzzle in EB with the help of mesmer portals…. and EVERYTHING was gone in that 10 min time span….

More than once we had to quit dungeons halfway because we got called back to our BL so that we could keep the stuff there…. and even one time we got there and Klazart had driven the zerg out already…. Props to Klazart for that BTW… but you can understand how frustrating that can be

The other thing we noticed by only having KAIN and KR run our BL is that randoms on our server are horrible at communicating to the Commanders…. I don’t know how it is on other servers but we get people who say “DR zerg here now” and then dont tell where “here” is….

Darxio is more frustrated at the fact that we as a server just dont work together enough…. and I am inclined to agree

KAIN is taking a week off partially cause of the long shifts we had to pull and partially because we are just frustrated that we dd so well the first half the week and then fell apart at the end

also to the person who said we “quit” our duty to protect the BL…. that was an organizational trend we tested that one week… so it isn’t like a promise to only ever do that… we were testing to see if we could organize WvW a little better and now that the week is over… We should step back as a server and see what went well and what didn’t….

Highlighed area… that sounds an awful lot like blaming War/iSPY to me.

For the record nothing was ever mentioned to me, as leader of Warsworn, that EB was specifically ours…. didnt need to as its obvious you guys holding KBL allowed us to do more in EB.

ktith.6197:

As a former DR player (I moved and it’s great one tier up), I can see where Kaineng would believe that they are being bullied. I can also bring up that just a short 6 weeks ago, Kaineng won their first matchup and plastered the forums with videos and posts about it. It was at that point that Kaineng (whether everyone wanted it or not) “approved” the use of boasting and then became permanent targets to those on DR and even FC when they field the numbers. In all honestly, whether [KAIN] was there or not, the Kaineng server dominated at that point in time and made it a purposeful point to completely and utterly dominate only DR and its, inexperenced, weak, and low numbers. While that was only for a week or two, the point here is that the Kaineng server is reaping what it sowed weeks ago. In a war situation you always take out your strongest enemy to make the point in hopes to make everyone else retreat with submission.

To leave a matchup because you’re overwhelmed is just being…well for lack of better wording…childish. This week in T7 we’ve got a Kaineng equivalent (GoM) and Eredon Terrace just arrived with their low numbers. I play EB only now and I can tell you that ET with the lowest numbers (only seen like 30 last night) was able to take SM from a large force and was able to put up more of a fight with less than half the numbers. I know it sucks to lose….god do I know from all the weeks on DR that we lost…but we were still there spending gold on siege that we proclaimed we would never do again and WvWing when we said we were through. So my solution to you is, stay there, leave and find another server that isn’t as demoralizing to you, or combine your server’s numbers with FC if you’re wanting to stay in T8. I know everyone is “mad” about the server transfer thing and claims server pride, but you can still keep that pride no matter where you go (if it was your home server originally). I left DR and don’t regret it. I mean some people on AR are idiots, but you run into those everywhere, but it still doesn’t mean that I don’t hold my home server as a place that started my journey to WvW and now leading skirmishes, battles, and defensives. By all means if you need a WvW break, go PvE, make some gold up for next week, etc and so on….but remember you reap what you sow and DR will move up and reap what they’re sowing now.

PS I hope DR moves up soon because I have some presents for old guildies and old servermates….wink

I think you are a good guy Ktith and not gunna argue, some of what you holds truth but disagree with alot too. Ive always thought most of your posts have been pretty fair and alot less biased than most.

ktith.6197:

As a former DR player (I moved and it’s great one tier up), I can see where Kaineng would believe that they are being bullied. I can also bring up that just a short 6 weeks ago, Kaineng won their first matchup and plastered the forums with videos and posts about it. It was at that point that Kaineng (whether everyone wanted it or not) “approved” the use of boasting and then became permanent targets to those on DR and even FC when they field the numbers. In all honestly, whether [KAIN] was there or not, the Kaineng server dominated at that point in time and made it a purposeful point to completely and utterly dominate only DR and its, inexperenced, weak, and low numbers. While that was only for a week or two, the point here is that the Kaineng server is reaping what it sowed weeks ago. In a war situation you always take out your strongest enemy to make the point in hopes to make everyone else retreat with submission.

To leave a matchup because you’re overwhelmed is just being…well for lack of better wording…childish. This week in T7 we’ve got a Kaineng equivalent (GoM) and Eredon Terrace just arrived with their low numbers. I play EB only now and I can tell you that ET with the lowest numbers (only seen like 30 last night) was able to take SM from a large force and was able to put up more of a fight with less than half the numbers. I know it sucks to lose….god do I know from all the weeks on DR that we lost…but we were still there spending gold on siege that we proclaimed we would never do again and WvWing when we said we were through. So my solution to you is, stay there, leave and find another server that isn’t as demoralizing to you, or combine your server’s numbers with FC if you’re wanting to stay in T8. I know everyone is “mad” about the server transfer thing and claims server pride, but you can still keep that pride no matter where you go (if it was your home server originally). I left DR and don’t regret it. I mean some people on AR are idiots, but you run into those everywhere, but it still doesn’t mean that I don’t hold my home server as a place that started my journey to WvW and now leading skirmishes, battles, and defensives. By all means if you need a WvW break, go PvE, make some gold up for next week, etc and so on….but remember you reap what you sow and DR will move up and reap what they’re sowing now.

PS I hope DR moves up soon because I have some presents for old guildies and old servermates….wink

Thnxs for the revisionist history. Too bad it didnt quite go like that in reality.

There was ONE guy… named Kaine … who was plastering the forums every single day… like.. every… single … day.

It was really annoying, we even asked politely the guild he was in to make him shut up… but to no avail.

Kaineng got a well deserved win. Then the Halloween event came and we took the week off for it. It was that week PRO xfered to DR, and claimed on forums to be bringing 450man guild (thier words) to DR. They proceeded to dominate WvW with alot of WAR/iSPY and others having taken the week off. They didnt win with class, but instead thier own version of Kaine’s chest thumping but this time wasnt just one guy.
When we did come out to WvW the week after, it was near constant accusation of hacking/exploiting/PvDoor.

bubO.3548:

Xiir its not that KR is quitting WvW lol. All me and my guild decided to just to take a break from WvW. Apparently playing other parts of the game is called “Whining”.

Defintely not saying you are “whining”… maybe some DR/Fergs posters in here are, thats on them.

Quitting the matchup …. why tho? Same reasons as Darxio has posted? If so is any this animosity he has claimed towards others on Kaineng directed towards myself and War or iSPY?

If so, lets talk ingame or TS3 or whatever and see what we can work out.

In any case, would love to know why you guys are boycotting this weeks match.

You guys did an amzing job last week.

@Swumwun
Yes it is very much alot of what you think lol “look at us, see how you do without us” type responses.

I personally dont understand the mentality behind it. It never produces anything other than resentment and entrenched bitterness from those you are trying to “teach a lesson to”

Hats off to Fergs as always. You guys are really the ones who deserve to move up to tier7 than of the 3 servers here, thats just my opinion tho. lol.

@LARP.

Have fun on Fergs guys! No reason to think you guys goign to Fergs will change the matchup drastically as you guys arent out to cap anything but to jsut kill kil kill kill kill.

Enjoy the change of scenery!

Wow alot has transpired sinc i went to work last night after creating this thread.

@Darxio
I am not quite understanding the target of your frustrations on Kaineng? Are you upset War and iSPY did not defend Kaineng BL? I was told by some guys in KAIN you all had a plan to keep the BL locked down. As the week passed by… you guys did an AMAZING job. Seriously. Hats off man. Your efforts in the KBL allowed us in War and iSPY (among others as well I know i saw Rancid and Paper Eater and Chaster at start of the week) to go and foray into DR BL and EB. Are you upset towards some of the smaller guilds i was todl you guys had about 15 small guilds worked into your KBL lockdown plans… did these not pull thier weight? When you make these broad anger filled posts and point a finger into the general air, alot of people wonder who you are talking about.

Last week was a wonderful matchup. You guys in KAIN and KR did a amazing job holding down the KBL, allowing my guild WAR and also iSPY to go out into the other maps and gain some ground.

I am baffled that after such a week…. your decision is to QUIT? Thats regrettable.

It really comes off as a “look at me” tantrum… did you guys want more recognition for your efforts? Taking the week off to “Show us” what its like without you?

I have always made efforts to support you guys in what you do. I have let many of your guild leaders know if they need us, just tell us. I even asked if u wanted us to take responsibility for any specific objective in KBL (not you it was KArma i think i talked to, or Archon I forget).

For you and also Klazart’s KR to take the week off, i dunno.

We came last night to help in KBL when we saw it being swarmed by DR. We pushed off a few attempts on garrison. Ranger in iSPY said he was gunan go hit DR BL with 2 groups while we help KR/KAIN defend amd take back KBL. Few minutes later Klazart, the commander there from you guys tells me he is gunna log needs a break, can i take over, sure i say. Minutes later Ranger sees him and the whole KR group in DR BL.

We were abandoned to defend KBL with now even less numbers. I felt lied to. All we knew was you guys had a plan and alliance of smaller guilds to keep KBL locked down.

I love Kaineng. Its a great server and we have all gotten along quite well, and im sure will continue to do so in the future.

What happenned last night is NOT how we work together.

If you guys want to take the week off from defending KBL. Fine. Tell us, and we will do it. Then you guys can be the offensive arm pushing into other maps.

Dont just up and quit, be deceiful to us, rage on forums pointing fingers and claim to be such a massive influence on the matchup…. its very nonproductive and not very classy.

This isnt how Kaineng needs to be.

Let us know what you need from us, we will do our best to help and support you.

WAR and iSPY are not taking the week off.

Lets see if this is the last week we all are together, if so lets make it a great send off to our 2 month (almost) matchup!

Was fun backdooring DR as they tried to do the same SM-rush in EB as they do every week. Held it long as we could but the pure numbers DR had in our own BL was too much and we had to go there.

Good showing from DR tonight. You guys brought a tonne of people out. Will you be reversing the usual weekend trend of Kaineng pulling ahead? Lets see, and good luck to all 3 servers this week!

Thnxs for hijacking attempt!

Fergs Crossing is great server too… so are the others you mentioned Im sure.

This thread is however entitled and purposed for Kaineng recruitment.

Have a nice day!

Attic.1562:

dank.3680:

I just found it silly KAIN threw away what could have been their win.

And I find it silly that you think we care about points at all. Maybe guys like Chaster or Xiir do, but there’s plenty of people who just want to kill indiscriminately.

Personally, I think the points can go hang. Maybe I would care if winning the match up was tied into power advancement, but it would be the opposite way. I’d quit over stupid nonsense like that.

I dont lose sleep over points.

Been many nights we headed out there with zero intention of capping anything and just looking for open field fights or to get meat grinder defences going.

I want to see us win a matchup, true. I make efforts to go for and cap points when out there alot, true.

If we are losing, ust up and giving up is no way to play.

Sometimes you gatta adjust how you play depending on the situation.

At times that means cap stuff for point gain. Other times it means hit and run. Other times it means avoid capping entirely and just kill red names.

You cant stick to only one playstyle, it gets very boring.

Would like to welcome the small 5man strike force from [HOO] that came over yesterday, your small team will def make a difference considering what you explained you wanted to do out there!

We are still looking for more people, especially euro/oceanic players who desire to join an up and coming server in a very competitive tier.

this week’s matchup has been a close one, with Kaineng coming in 2nd pace with about 15k shy of 1st and Fergs crossing just 20k shy behind Kaineng.

Your small guild can make a difference!

You are also forgetting HoD.

They are also falling hard into T8

Which will make Kaineng going in to T7 an inevitable fact.

We will need some help when we get there to help ensure we dont fall into a situation where we arent ping poning back an dforth between T7/8 week after week.