[CC] Crimson Conspiracy
Gunnar’s Hold
Same, but I also have it in borders. It’s very annoying. Not the first it happened though after one of these useless PvE patches. Hope it settles down again next week when everyone has done their achievements.
RAGE and TEO, as functional guild tags, are gone though.
Speaking for TEO, I can say most of its members are still on GH and joined other guilds. CC in particular will soon be formally introduced on GH community site, once we got our stuff sorted ;]
It wasn’t at EU primetime, hihey (X Helen X in this video) usually plays a little later though, and AG still had tons of people while we were doing this so it still felt like primetime to us wherever we went. Here’s what really happened, made a little funclip out of it (and you can see timestamp in CET). All in good fun!
Had fun in AG/JS borders and ended raid in EB.
Thank you RAGE, TEO and lion for a lot of fun fights in RoF BL this evening, and MM blob and FURY later on in EB. Thumbs up to RAGE for not interfering into our fight with TEO next to bay until it was clear who won, much appreciated
We had a lot of fun, hope for more evenings like that in the week.
Also, who won GvG that was going on in RoF BL? :P
Too bad your server didn’t do the same. We actually killed quite a few of your group (or pugs around, red is red) and to us it seemed we were on the upperhand, but the group never got any smaller as nearing the end more and more RoF joined the fight, which is when we gave RAGE the clear to support us as it got too much for us.
Small video of some fights of past week, clueless necro pov.
Where some nice fights we had
Shame that I was leading in your video and not our oficial leader![]()
I realy suck at leading sometimesin three different evening?^^
Was training to become a beter leader this week because he cant be here every night and someone needs to take over than :o. But i do think i had a free night at the one that we where trebing mendons.
Which was when I was looking at the map, people yelling inc at me, closed map, and I totally had no clue where you came from
TEO wins some, loses some. It’s a vid compilation of your successes. We don’t seem to be particularly ready for it in these fights though. When I was raiding/leading all I noticed was xxx avoiding us mostly tbh. I tried to get you a few times, but it resulted in chases across the map :x Some other cases where we were actually fighting other UW and xxx came in from a flank (granted, not depicted here). But w/e, its open wvw/open roam, good job on showing that we still need to pay attention and improve, something I’ve hammering on for the past weeks :p
I’ll show it to TEO members ;]
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TEO looking for a nice gvg this week anyone interested?
WBC looking for some sweet GvG’s this week, contact me if you’re up for it. ^^
You might want to emphasize 20v20, not 20v70 ;D
This promises to be an entertaining matchup (please refer to picture).
To their credit they did eventually notice (after having chased us from the south camp, round the ruins and all the way to bay NW gate) and managed to stop our commander in the lords room.. but none the less it all worked very nicely because as they did that, TEO broke through both bay gates completely unchallenge. The blob returned to bay, we went back to hills to find both the outer and inner were at <20% – free cap time!
The moral of the story of course being a blob, however big, can only do one thing at a time.
We dropped too much balista’s and rams along the path, the blob got tired of eating them. Perhaps we should have switched to cata’s and trebs they would have continued to chase us! Lesson learned for tomorrow ;D
Where’s everyone ? WBC is running around UW border for few hours already and not even 1 decent fight :/
You forgot to mention that TEO is there aswell and HT… You guys complain about numbers, but fact it…
10 UW vs 30 GH + HT guild just outside garri gate
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So should I be complaining of banner rezzing the lord on my own in our garri kiting 30 UW? :p Sorry, no screenshot.
Chill out guys, jeez, just a game…
[edit] And thx for the namedrops and props that we are getting, we are enjoying the fights, UW clearly tries very hard, respect.
Just coming to say thank you to WSR for a great year. I appreciate the support everyone has given us throughout the year. I enjoyed leading WSR (WvW), we have learned alot along the way, made many friends and stuck by in rough times. Yesterday we have decided to transfer out to GH to meet up with friends there, and to look for a new challenge. We feel a bit sad for WSR, but we also have to think about our own gaming experience, and we just had to move for our own good.
Good luck in the future, I wish you all well.
TEO is also considering transfer atm. We have not yet decided if and where we would go to yet though. I don’t know what else to say atm other then that I have a guild to run and keep my guys and girls happy, and this becomes progressively harder every week. This matchup was that last drop that brought up the topic yet again within our ranks. I can’t say anything else matchup related because I didn’t play last night once I saw the new matchup :]
Of course we work together and this results into 40-50 people of a few guilds in the same area. But we are friends, and we are bored. So we hop in eachother’s raid channel to try to find some fun, like naked zergs or lowbie zergs. We are bored… what else do you expect us to do… We have done guild raids too, but the only end result is, we flipped the border even faster. Might as well run together for the shared xp. Really, last night, we only ran into one medium sized group on our garri lord. During the whole raid, we ran into pretty much noone, just some solo roamers and some people dug into keeps with ac’s. On a 4 hour raid… You have really no reason to complain about blobs when 50 guys/girls have nothing else to do but stack up, blast swiftness and autoattack a gate.
We personally don’t like sieging at all, we rather fight groups. We can’t find that here, hence why we don’t really enjoy it. Anyways, no hard feelings, respect for you, carry on.
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@skwas
I think we fought you a couple of times yesterday!
Those where some good fights! I really enjoyed them.I must admit, I was impressed by the coordination in your zerg there!
Same back to you, we were constantly on the lookout for you guys when fighting another group, to avoid getting ganked from the rear ;]
The grub was idd a fun happening, we just went in for the tag, chasing FSP away that just wiped BT. Then we camped it to get that fight from you trying to loot it lol. The ele and then the portal bomb to loot the chest was one of the few hilarious moments of the night. Also the 6 omegas at our keep (when we heard about it I was like lol, get the f… out) and the blob of aroun 60 FSP with them (mostly pugs I reckon) that we fought with about 25 people from a few guilds and later again 5 alphas had us entertained for the evening.
See you in a bit on the battlefield ;]
Even though there’s not really any balance to be found, we are still enjoying the matchup. We’ve given up on points 1 minute into reset, WSR is getting used to unbalanced matches due to its population. Had some nice fights with some guild groups, and obviously also with the blobs. Our challenge is to hold out as long as we can, that’s why we came to your camps at golanta and rogues in more then one occassion, just to see how long we could stick it out ^^
Looking forward to more fights this week!
Mainly TSO? Glad to see me and my 2 party members made an impression on you.
Haha, it’s close though, TEO had 29, only one letter difference :]
I already stated it before and I’ll do it again, we try to be active in all 3 borders and EB. Last night, we took 1 t2 and 2 t3 towers (near citadel) in RoS border, and had multiple stabs at bay, where RoF decided to take over from us (not very smart, if you just tried to keep going at their hills as you were earlier, one of them might have flipped, working in your favor), and finally it upgraded to t3 locking us in and basically forcing us to give up.
Second, lost two upgraded keeps in our border. I was told that RoS downgraded them.
So no, we don’t hide in our bl, we don’t focus on RoF alone and RoS is not totally ignoring us…
This is not ment as a complaint towards TEO or WAR, but it’s more ment as a wakupcall. When each of u run either 15-20 or 20-25 each. It might be better for u to move to another borderland when there is only 6-8 people attacking ur borderland
Especially when u guys talk about u need more people to push other borderlands, but it seems like u guys like to sit in ur towers or run all together then to go alone and attack other borders^^
Uhm, first of all we don’t ‘sit’ in our towers, we fight, even if it’s 3x our numbers. Second, we have been active in all 3 borders and EB tonight, same as last night, simply because this matchup allows us some more freedom. If you happen to bump in to us in our bl with 15-20, I’m sorry, but that’s because our raid group moved there temporarily to take care of matters, but we don’t sit there for long if all we see is small groups of enemies. I rather spend more time in enemy borders, if not an entire evening like so many other guilds from other servers ‘can do’.
Fair enough, like I said, good job :p
After that we moved to our BL to help push RoS back there and moved on to WSR BL. Thank you all WSRs for fights between garri and Longview and in Longview itself. GJ being persistent, you kept coming and coming and finally pushed us out
Cya on the battlefield
That was a messy but very fun fight, the garrison keep changing hands twice within 5 mins at the end of it summed it all up, good fun.
TEO all running in glass builds for a change of pace ;D We really looked like a disorganized random mess there, haha…
We’re back baby! #yolo
Great reset after a long 2-3 weeks slacking. Alot of fun, and that Durios defense of 20 VcY agaist 60+ was amayzing, Wish we had of recorded that now.
Definately well done, allthough I’d like to add it was maybe a bit less, and a very disorganized bunch of 30 random ppl running in as chickens getting their heads chopped off. We were the last group to enter with 20, and I already told my guys beforehand we are now getting a lesson in choking (after we tried to do the same at Bravost ;D). The sheer amount of guardians up there didn’t make it easier, constant lines of warding and tons of boons/heals on you guys made it impossible for our group to break (only 3 guardians, lotsa light armors and not the same group cohesion yet as you have), but we tried nonetheless. And we will definately enjoy the learning process playing against you.
I enjoyed reset, we had a private raid not to fuzzed with points, and with some new setup/goals going on (train our roaming skills), and are reforming our group and gameplay to hopefully become an even stronger team in the future.
92 chests, 1 rare, 1 sup bali … :x
Idc to ‘translate’ contents/value into ecto’s. Yes, loot has improved, but PvE’rs can farm easily a dozen rares in under 2 hours by doing dungeons and dragons. I don’t even get half that number in a week of active wvw.
Kill the guardian!
- Which of the 30 do you mean?
Uhm…
We had some fun tonight in EB ;]
Same on WSR-AS-RoF matchup, crashes on borderlands, different keeps (or area’s surrounding them)…
Lucky you then, both WBC and TEO commanders have a Dutch public holiday too ;]
We appreciate the kind words from our (previous) opponents!
After that, we decided to knock to WSR bay. Nice move waiting behind gate corner, first time it was a total surprise. Too bad that we couldn’t stay longer, but we had to move back to Arbor to repel it’s inhabitants from hills.
Haha, ye, after being unable to take the camp back the first time, we just decided to let you come in and pay our respect. Was funny as we tried to get the camp again, failed, and then got you the same way the 2nd time, and the 3rd time ;]
Our (roam)group (TEO/WBC and friends) started off at AS bay, but my god, did AS have alot of people there. We tried, but couldn’t really force a decent breach so went back to our border to take some of our stuff back. Had awesome 45min fight with Tz over Astral, going back and forth, casualties all around, but we managed to come out on top. Quite a fun fight.
Some more fun in AS border later, succeeding in capping bay this time, tried garr, but RoF came in from the other side, and they managed to take it instead of us and started spamming sup ac’s at us…
Finished the night with securing border and EB again. Looking forward to more good fights.
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It couldn’t have been more unbalanced this evening, thanks to the connection issues, everyone logged off, and so the difference in pop is only amplified. Defending only garr to GH with 5 guys on voice, about 10 other players, meanwhile AS flipping the whole kitten map uncontested. Fun!
Don’t really see the challenge for either server…
Cheers for the duels PRXM!
GH’s situation isn’t AS or WSR situations. That’s why we can’t understand each other…
I think we do understand, you lose, you go into the pit of teir 9. I can not remember that we have ever been there but I can guess what it is like. Also it was only a few weeks ago we were being hammered by a server receiving lots of new players. A lot of the GH community have posted on this thread showing this understanding.
Btw is everyone in wvw atm trying level alts? Keep coming across lots of up levelled toons and this seems to be on all sides.
I noticed alot more alting on GH for sure, but I also have a few lowbie TEO running with, and I swear at them when they let you rally ;] It makes sense though, not much more to gain so just take the (w)xp to level, I guess we would do the same if in the position.
Ask your guildies.
Oh those Guildies.. partying without me!
lol :]
Ask your guildies.
Imp and friends wussies?
Stop running away… green EB, almost green bl last night, outmanning us and constantly running away.
Funny thing is.. whilst on my thief, that is all i got off of the WSR players last night other than perhaps 1 Asuran thief outside Red EB spawn and 1 Elementalist which i had some pretty decent fights with. The others just run into towers and shoot siege. Now that is pretty Wussy.
~Dishammer, CHvc
EDIT: That is not including the grouped up players who will only push out when they outnumber the players they are facing.
I know, it was more ment as a tease though, no real offense ment. I just dont like getting painted green and then when we come out to fight over 1 camp or tower, they run off when we kill half the group and then it ends up a 5v5 or something and they run off…
Still, I have respect for many individual players we encounter, good skills, but don’t accuse us from runnign and hiding when you do it too
I am the mez that just tagged your two golems btw ;]
Imp and friends wussies?
Stop running away… green EB, almost green bl last night, outmanning us and constantly running away.
T9 cause 10 people gvg for 2 hours? Come on.
You would be surprised of how much 10 people less of the main guilds make a difference in our ability to hold a t8 spot. At peak times (barring events) we have 35-45 people on shared comms in all zones from TEO, WAR, WBC and some smaller guilds or individuals. We know eachother, and we work well together. When we need to save a keep or are roaming, you will find it hard to take us out because we are not ‘newbies’ that are easy to farm.
I do respect the other (smaller) guilds that run on WSR – they play a part as well – but the main force is still to be considered these 3 guilds, we play alot, we upgrade almost constantly, we take care of our stuff and we definately are able to wipe bigger groups (and not just with AC’s). Dropping ‘only’ 10 guys from these 35-45 people is 25%-35% of our power. Last night proved this, since we had some people doing the new PvE content and those that were left to do WvW were struggling. It’s simply impossible to defend 4 keeps, attack enemy borders, take and hold a castle with this group as the main force behind WSR. The odd case where we do assault a keep is just special events, not a rule (like GH or AS are able to do) or during a nightcap session.
As far as scheduling this on friday for the reason that ‘points dont matter’, for most of us, friday is our day off, where we do some PvE or just hang out. I never play the hours before reset, to save my energy for a long evening. I’d do GvG’s if we had time and energy, we simply don’t.
Please note: I’m not complaining, I still have enough pleasure in fighting whatever server we are up against, simply for the fact that we are able to do what we do. I do wish we’d be ‘lucky’ sometime and get some small guilds to join us so we can actually rotate our crew more often (screw 7-8 big guild transfers, I am not looking for that kind of bs).
Laters! :]
Just my observations from last night:
AS already launched their assault throughout the night. We were capping some stuff back in EB (only had Overlook and Veloka at that point), when we noticed AS were inside SM lordroom. We had only 7-8 people and outmanned, and I had a gut feeling we were going to be next. I placed myself between SM, Ogrewatch and Overlook and surely enough, there was an AS group of about 25 showing up to hit Overlook with an omega and a few alphas. We managed to rally enough people to kick AS out, but were unable to finish off the omega. After they ported to spawn, GH keep was their next target. After most of GH was cleared in EB, we saw bluewater village in our bl flip. We sent one scout, and surely, there was an omega on it’s way to hills, quickly ported away after noticing our solo TEO scout on the cannon (lol!!). We sat in our border with 3 guys, blocking all AS exits for the next 2 hours, anxiously awaiting the omega, whilst watching GH border turn blue. While letting an omega despawn…
Until later tonight! ;]
Looking at GH side of the maps, I sense a wp coming in AS hills… :]
This is a good post. I feel that WSR do defend with great force and that in comparison, Arbor towers go down with less effort. I find that WSR do like their mega-zergs, but that’s been proven to work on all tiers of the game. I feel that GH need to counter them with our own mega-zergs like we didn’t do enough against RoS (and hence one reason why we’re in this tier now).
I get the impression that WSR could explore the other borderlands a little more, but seem to be (perhaps with some justification) somewhat reserved about doing so.
I wish we could do it more often too. For that we really would need a few more guilds and better coordination. If we pay a visit to an enemy border or EB, it is usually at the cost of losing stuff in our own border or EB side, and before we have a chance to finish a cap we usually end up having to go back to save a keep or t3 tower of our own. Alot of people apparently still don’t realize that those jump puzzle ac/balista blueprints are actually very useful, regardless of how many times you show it to them. Hence why TEO is more active in own bl, while we rather roam/siege someplace else. We just don’t get a chance that often. If we would, we would be back in t9 where there’s no roaming to be had, so we have no choice.
We also have some other guilds that are not really effectively working close together as WAR, TEO and WBC do. We hope to improve on that in the future, and our shared comms that we’ve started to use is a big improvement.
I enjoy fighting GH, RoF, Dzag etc alot. It requires us to bring our best game. The 3-way fights at bay and bluelake were very enjoyable. Enough of the ‘focussing’ already. It is clear to everyone with a brain that GH is not focussing AS, they are hitting us equally hard, just look at the map.
Shoutouts to SOE, CHvz, PRXM, Imp, MM etc. at GH, nice fights… god I’ve seen so many guilds today I can’t name you all.
Time for the regular GH guilds to farm fractals? :p
Read through the thread, can’t really understand all the whining. Yes, the match is somewhat unbalanced, GH obviously is a stronger server, since they’ve been leading t7 for a while (until RoS became stronger and tiered up) and have a decent number of guilds. But I don’t see any ‘focussing’ as of yet. The fact of the matter is, if EB or a specific BL is full, you go somewhere else. Reset always attracts more people, and the same was true for WSR, we had short queues on EB and our border too in the evening, which is a first (but the earlier reset also explains this I guess).
Last night WSR got hit hard by both servers especially on our border, to the point where all we owned was Cliffside and two camps. Since EB was looking in better shape, WAR joined us on the border to take back what was lost. Quite a few 3-way fights, most notably CHvc and some other GH-guilds/players trying to take over our assault at hills where RCT and others from AS were well dug in in the lord room. We held out at north inner – lost a bunch of players to CHvc attacking us in the back – but got people to respawn quickly enough to finally cap hills back. Some decent open ground fights too here and there, and taking back our garrison was, well, a long struggle so props to GH for that.
Looking forward to more fights, hope we can keep our numbers decent throughout the week. Upgrading will be costly again this week ;D
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Come to WSR guys, we miss Vabbi and FoW ;]
TEO can definitely get 20-30 man guild groups going
On a regular night and on reset we run with average 7-10 ppl. On special wvw guild events, we run with 20-25 ppl, but we’ve only done that twice the past 3 months and it does not really work well, since half of those are not WvW’ers. The past 10 days, we’ve had alot of inactives and so I usually ran with 4 or 5 guildmates. The weeks prior to that we topped a ‘healthy’ 12-13 man group. There’s also a few roamers that don’t really run with us and are not on comms and just like to run with the EB zerg (‘organized’ TEO mostly runs borders). So there you go.
Good fun in RoS bl this night :]
It’s fine though, it’s understandable nearing the end of the week and after weeks in the same matchup. However, the one thing that should keep anyone going is staying out of t9. We’ve been on that brink way too many times, and so we try our best to avoid it :]
Depends really, Null Field, Disenchanter, Defender, Timewarp, Arcane Thievery(depends on boss) for dungeons. For leveling/node farming, anything that allows me to drop aggro andmove/skip area’s fast, decoy, blink, mass invis. If need to kill, mirror images (shatter build). I mostly do WvW though, and there it’s either glamour build (veil, portal, null field, feedback) or shatter build (blink, mirror images, decoy), depending on what enemies I encounter that day and our own group layout.
Most notably I recently switched from Etherfeast to Mirror. The lower cooldown offsets the smaller heal, it reflects projectiles during the heal which is pretty awesome and it works better with Centaur runes (which I sometimes use) since you can just use it more often. Having run with it for about 6 weeks now, I will never go back.
Do i get lot’s of chicks if i transfer and drop couple superior rams?
Sure, but it might be hard to arrange one more guy to carry the extra 10 supply and finish the ram, since everyone is distracted by all the chicks… ;D
You’ll be heading to t7 if not before long. It’s a bit sour for WSR that we ‘again’ did not get any transfers in. For the past 3 months we have been losing guilds, and every few weeks at least one of our opponents had transfers from higher up in. We have been fighting hard to stay out of the kitten t9 hole (having been stuck there for a long time every so often), and while we won’t be dropping soon (since AS is dropping the ball this week) I rather (obviously) would have seen us get stronger with more new guilds. At this point the match-up is messed up again, RoS has already been the winner the past weeks and now with VcY and RiOT it is a bit too much (especially with alot of inactives in our ranks this past 10 days).
Alas, it is what it is, at least the WSR spirit lives on. See you on the battlefield!
PS: VcY, I was the mez that janked 5 of you off the cliff at hills with a well timed fear combo with my guild mate, one of the few moments I got to kill you ;] I think it was a 20:1 repair ratio for me last night, something I haven’t had in a looooong time, but at least I had my moment of glory :p
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Noone called you a zerg server… breathe, reread.
[edit] And yes, I have to agree RoS organization is very good on that subject compared to WSR. But the point of this thread is not to praise RoS, but to recruit for WSR :p
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I’ll just requote myself:
Short term, we like to secure our spot in tier 8. Long(er) term, we hope to grow as a server to tier up further. But we can use help. We are looking for guilds and players for every timeframe, be it primetime (no queues) or off hours (in which you can make a significant difference). Other servers have a more active presence during the night, as Zeal already mentioned, and this is often where we fall short. In peak hours a few more guilds could make just that bit of difference to keep the pressure up.
Long(er) term – Yes, we like to think long term too.
Other servers – I didn’t mention just RoS did I?
this is often where we fall short – Often, not always, but often…
Stop reflecting my recruitment post on ‘your’ matchup.
I just explained, if you can’t read, not my problem.
I’d like to add this isn’t just about this matchup, we are recruiting for our server to grow. If we are to ever tier up, we need more presense at night, morning, afternoon and evening. In previous matchups vs RoF and GH, we simply lost alot of our hard work during the night.
It is sad that RoS jumps on our recruiting posts to troll around and that they reflect this purely on this matchup. Stop derailing.
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