Guild Wars 2

its dead, theirs noone queueing outside of peak time for paid tournaments and inside them the few try hard teams (“pro teams”) farm the more normal people who dont invest 6 hours a night every night earning a currency that buys nothing that yet exists, frees are easy enough to get into quick but everyone in them these days is low rank and awful so its likely just the pve’ers having a go for fun and so you can win without armour or comp easily enough. The game play is fine bar a few issues for what it is, and actually probably the best mmo pvp system in a game imo. However the excitement long since passed due to the awful systems in place for spvp competition and with it went 80% of the people.
I didn’t actually realise it was as bad as it is until today at 1500 hrs i queued for paids and for 45 mins was the only team in the queue. Which says it all. The argument that when its all sorted people will flock back is nonsense maybe 2 in 10 might have a look but with the current systems plus how bad the game is to watch (average stream views of sub 200 across all streamers). Its dead, and actually dead faster than swtor which shocks me as the game is sooo good in alot of ways.

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From a pvp point of view, its good that killing phantasms might counter these builds slightly as 12 second cd’s meant spamming phantasms and running was far to easy, as was gettin 2 of any one phantasm and as they are able to do 4-5k’s each with no actual effort from the mesmer it was to much, I imagine the chaos storm nerf is more to increase the time someone can actually fight back against a mesmer without screwing themselves. I hope this brings mesmers back in line so everyone who currently plays mesmer can go back to the class they picked before they realised mesmer was so easy. I think this makes shattering much more of a choice which is how it should be. Now fix portal working with repair kit.

The thing is, in PvE they are NOT over powered. Our illusions get destroyed by the slightest breath and we’re left there with nothing.

Yeah i get that and i know mesmers are horrible in pve, i guess they are gonna have to seperate the skills out for pve/pvp, though why they cant put the damage on the mesmers skills and take some out of the phantasm ai’s hands i don’t know

From a pvp point of view, its good that killing phantasms might counter these builds slightly as 12 second cd’s meant spamming phantasms and running was far to easy, as was gettin 2 of any one phantasm and as they are able to do 4-5k’s each with no actual effort from the mesmer it was to much, I imagine the chaos storm nerf is more to increase the time someone can actually fight back against a mesmer without screwing themselves. I hope this brings mesmers back in line so everyone who currently plays mesmer can go back to the class they picked before they realised mesmer was so easy. I think this makes shattering much more of a choice which is how it should be. Now fix portal working with repair kit.

teadoa if you had read the first post that already has answered that question, Not gonna lie i have done the many mesmers thing including making all the mesmers look the same with the same name nearly ie: mr damo/mr dámo/mr damó but its cheap and im seeing more and more of this happening,
Skills on a mesmer that are borderline op when theirs one become magnified when you have mutiple of them. want a capture point example fine,
Initial fight on keep 5 chaos storms in a row on the point, 2-3 time warps in a row (30 seconds quickness gg) or 2-3 moas, aoe shatters plus all the visual confusion means you arent winning that team fight. ok go elsewhere, doesnt work they portal all over the map so every fight reads the same as the keep fight just described. Of course you dont need 5 mesmers to do this, 3 will do so if your feeling imaginative you can chuck 2 ridiculously tanky guardians into the mix if you like so in the unlikely event you can ever kill anyone you wont get a stomp and certainly won’t take the point before the uber skilled mesmers come back.
Its cheese because its skilless and taking advantage of mechanics and skills that are head and shoulders above other comps capabilities.
Only last night we beat a team that was running a defensive comp quite easily, 2 tournies later they are rolling 5 mesmers and suddenley miraculously they must have become 300% better players cos they won easily.
I thought that mesmers were to good in khylo for treb but the more you bring the worse it gets in terms of opness

My teams been playing since launch and the sudden influx of 5 mesmer teams/2 guardian mesmer teams is getting sickening to the point im very close to dismissing this games pvp totally,
How do you beat a team that can portal endlessley between points, does ridiculous damage has so much visible spam, takes no skill and can moa 5 times efeectively turning any team fight into a formality, I have been a staunch defender of balance in this game but asa time is going on im starting to think i’ll bend over and join our new memer overlords , effectively all i’d have to do is call phantasms with another 4 mesmers let ai do the rest and portal with same guys to any other base that needs defending and rinse and repeat.
These teams are only becoming more and more regular as any idiot can play them with minimal skill and another team cant do much about it.
As an engineer can i have a little of what the mesmer has? maybe bombs that chase people and hit for 7k while i stealth and laugh.
This isnt a l2p issue im quite capable of winning 1 v 1’s and team fights against mesmers but theirs something broken in a game when 5 mesmers are so completely better than the sum of their parts.

how is taking elixir R “giving up a utility slot” people don’t seem to take into account that this whole discussion is around its toolbelt application and it gives, a stun break and 2 extra dodges as well, also with 15 points in tools, the rez resets at 25% , i don’t leave home without elixir r its by far the best stun break skill for solo and group play, i don’t see how elixir s compares really

12.15 muhahaha

last night for a laugh we made a team of identical mesmers with identical names, won easily, Imagine the surprise of the necro bunker build when a mesmer walks up , he prepares him self for his 1 v 1, then the mesmer drops a portal and 4 copies appear then suddenley bam 20 mesmers in front of him, fun times but it does show why mesmer stacking is so crazy, it really is hard to deal with one try multi especially with the same names except dashes etc above the letters and same looks.

Putting my vote in to engi’s are fine, i’d say they are one of the most balanced classes at the moment, Only they take skill to play decently. Only reason i sometimes get frustrated is that i have to juggle 20 abilities while a pistol whip thief hits 1 for 10-15k damage, Some other builds need bringing down to our level i think not the other way around.
I played vs my teammates condition mesmer and lost, after 15 mins of learning his skills, i beat him easily every time, When asked how he could counter me i really couldnt give an answer beyond “don’t chase me” Thats what i love about the class, react well to your opponent and you will likely win whatever he’s rolling.

I can’t understand why you would want an arena mode, It’d be runied by 3 x pistol whip thieves and 3 x mesmer teams instantly (adjust numbers to the bracket) I played arena to a decnt lvl in wow (2300+) and i’d hate (HATE) to see it in this game

just because alternatives are old or rubbish doesnt mean people haven’t stopped playing, i know 3 noobs who left as they got sick of being one shotted by thieves and warriors early on, and i played on a team of good guys for 4 nights, won 200 odd and lost 5 got bored and 3 of those 4 are now no longer interested .
If your losing people from both ends of the spectrum you have to at least give a sense of whats to come. I myself am fairly happy at the moment but the pvp has been released anything but ready for competition which wasn’t the impression given pre release,
The trouble with todays public is everything has to be now now now, Its how people are and the longer certain things aren’t fixed and the direction isn’t given the more people will leave. When your main competitor is bringing out a expansion crap as it will be, you’d think something to not lose so many people would have been set by now

The 2 classes are a little to good at 1 v 1 in my opinion, thief because pistol whip and especially heart seeker are brokenly good and mesmer is just a bit to strong in 1 v 1 , playing an engineer i’d like all classes to have to work for their damage like i have to. No problem with a thief killing someone in 4 seconds but if he does it with 1 button and anybody could do it, then it needs to be changed in my opinion. As for mesmer im not so sure but in 1 v 1 it seems they pop all their abilities and im either dead or he goes “omg he’s not dead” MOA, fights over and mesmer downed ability is obnoxious sometimes.

Hey you can literally play any role and do well as an engi they are kinda jack of all trades and master of none at the moment with how ridiculous some class buiulds are in terms of damage, The only real issue is it takes more effort to get your damage out than most classes, but the class is certainly not weak in any form. You should probably start with teldos builds as they are on the net already links on his twitch.tv, They aren’t very newbie friendly but not many engie specs are to be honest, If you literally are new try the point defender first as its got the most control and can deal with thieves pressing 1 button quite efficiently. links are low on this page http://www.twitch.tv/teldoo?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.teamparadigm.net