Guild Wars 2

FrizzFreston.5290:

stevonzo.6879:

While you are mostly correct, you are blaming the wrong people. The gaming industry has started using beta testing as a marketing tool rather than what it is supposed to be. You can’t really blame gamers at this point. You should be saying, “it is dumbfounding how the game companies don’t know the purpose of a beta test” or “it is dumbfounding that these companies continue to knowingly misuse beta tests”.

I would say the twist on that. People have gotten used to beta tests where pretty much everything is working, is pretty much a media stunt and all the reported bugs is the only thing the game developer needs to do and has time to do since development is pretty much at an end. Gamers are not used to Betas where multiple things still aren’t working perfectly and if they report something they expect it to be fixed the next beta.

Because if anything… it’s most obvious that HoT is not done. And the OP expected a more ready product because it’s a beta which he expects to be at least working… which exactly isn’t what a beta is about. Or rather betas are something that developers want to be at least confident about showing to the public. It seems to me that ArenaNet is confident enough to share a much earlier cycle with us and then gathering some feedback regarding that.

So they have alot of work to do still. At least we know and can tell them. Rather than going “mimimimi its still not done” or “mimimi I don’t see the instant change I requested last beta.”

I agree, the OP is mistaken on what a beta is, I just didn’t like the attitude the other person took towards them. Given the state of the industry, I can excuse players for not understanding the true purpose of a beta. The guy’s attitude that I responded too just put me off. Others had already explained in much nicer words that the OP was mistaken, his comment was really unnecessary (and flat out rude), so I called it out.

Morfedel.4165:

DaveyC.4398:

Hello All,

I had high hopes after playing the Revenant at EGX Rezzed. After Playing the first beta, I am so disappointed.

I have tried a zerker and condi build with all weapon types. All I have seen is crazy low DPS, to the point where it took about 8 mins to kill a vet with other players.

That and no underwater weapon hardly make it much of a Beta.

From my perspective, I wish Arena net had not bothered with this weekend. I would have preferred them admitting that we are a long way away from hot completion.

After what I have seen today, I doubt very much that I will be playing a rev from day one, if even at all.

For what it is worth, I am seriously questioning whether I have a future in this game. (No you cannot have my stuff).

I guess that’s what you get for blind loyalty when the overlords have a culture of bleeding gamblers dry when you are a bit of a gambler yourself.

It is utterly dumbfounding how many people don’t understand the purpose of a beta test.

It isn’t to market a finished product. Its to find flaws and address them.

You know, “Hey devs, it looks like the revenant has a problem with damage output you may need to address” is a great way for a beta tester to report issues they discover.

Your response isn’t That of a beta tester. It’s that of someone looking for a bnigh complete product, which this isn’t.

I suggest you and others of your persuasion look up what a beta test and beta testers are. It certainly seems you either don’t get it, or don’t have it in you.

While you are mostly correct, you are blaming the wrong people. The gaming industry has started using beta testing as a marketing tool rather than what it is supposed to be. You can’t really blame gamers at this point. You should be saying, “it is dumbfounding how the game companies don’t know the purpose of a beta test” or “it is dumbfounding that these companies continue to knowingly misuse beta tests”.

Thanks, that worked.

Patch notes say the WvW tip was moved to lvl 31 but any level can enter, however my friend says his WvW tab is locked until lvl 31. How can he enter?