Guild Wars 2

I think you missed the point.
Endless protection only for the ones you hit. That wont happen in sPVP or at least is very unlikely that you hit more then 1 or even 1 players for protection. If you mean for a massive zerg in wvw? yes you might hit enough there but its not needed there anyway enough protection from klasses that can burst them out even better and aoe and better range and easier(looking at tempest ele here for example) besides that still no boons from the stance itself.
And i dont complain about the movement of the tablet i complain about the way they designed it. Against good palyers (ourside of 100 man zergs) you need to move it very very fast and often because fights are very mobile. It has a way too long CD and the energie cost for it are way too high while range for the heal is way too low just everything bout it is not worth it.
Great synergy is a revenant with facet of nature and a guardian
Great synergie is a reaper that buffs himself and with a trait therfore also heal itself
…Ventari and glint are hardly synergising at all.

In my opinion the Ventari has a lot of problems that needs to be fixed if anet really want someone to use this stance.

1. PvE: I didnt test it in PvE but since Gw2 is designed around the dodge mechanic and PvE is about bursting bosses down and dodge the main incomming dmg it isnt needed here anyway. Since it doesnt give any buffs if you really want someone to do a bit of healing then a guard can do it 100 times better while also giving needed buffs.

2. Player vs Player
I didnt went into spvp with it i tried it in WvW enviroment…Zergs, solo roaming/duels, group pvp.
Problems of Ventari are simple i want to make it as short as possible to avoid a massive wall of text
Gameplay in PvP is fast. Ventari stance needs 2 seconds to get tablet out and start doing stuff. And if you want to do a real heal you need another 2 seconds. No going to work in any PvP enviroment.
Condi cleanse the same. Needs 2 sec to get tablet out after switching to it. Condis need to be cleansed instantly in gamemodes where a singel immob can get you killed.
The elite is ok but takes too much energie and random generated healpacks are never good because of randomness (but thats not main problem with ventari anyways)
The Protective solance that destroys projectiles is ok but takes way too much energie to make it last a few sec and other classes can destroy and even reflect projectiles so its nothing a ventari rev is needed for.
Problem with the tablet itslef is the movement. Its too clunky to few range and the CD is too long and movement to slow.
You can properly use it in a fast game situation not to mention that the movement itself cost way too much energie and it heals almost noone around you need to hit the players completely ..sometimes the weapon of the guy i pushed it to was touching it still he got no healing from the movement.
What leads to the problem that all ventari skills range is way too low when you keep in mind that you have to move the tablet yourself, with a long CD, with even using energie for it and having a very small range to move it around.
Enemies can push you with simpel knochbacks like hammer 4 of warr out of it, yes it would be counterplay but since the ventari is not useful in anyway it shouldnt be so easy to make him completely useless
Energie is also too low since weapon attacks also cost them….or ventari skills cost too much.
Heals seem not too strong aswell since staff has almsot same healing as ventaris biggest heal and has less energie cost and bigger range
Ventari gives no buffs which seems kinda useless aswell since every class in gw2 can stack boons like crazy and he cant even give 1 singel boon.
Summary: In this stage noone will ever play ventari WvW, PvP ever(and i dont see this stance made for PvE since the game isnt made for healing in PvE . Would make no sense whatsoever)

Ideas for useful ventari( at least imo)

- Get rid of the tablet and make the revenant itself the tablet as soon as he switches into ventari. He would be usefull as sson as he gets into the stance like all other Rev stances
If tablet needs to be in the game(i doubt that with tablet it will ever be played in PvP/WvW) at least make a new mechanic. No CD on movement, bigger range (remove healing on hitting allied palyers with it when removing movement CD)

If the tablet is only there to make it “more action based” you could also just make the ventari abilities ground targeted that way you still have to aim it would take skill and in a team coordiantion to get the most of it. This would be the best option imo.
The projectile protection can revolve around the rev in a case without tablet and maybe give it protection buff aswell? Since ventari is giving no boons whatsoever seems kind of underpowered compared to every other class since everyone can stack boons like crazy or give ventari stance itself trait for passiv reg or something.

-Get a bigger range for healing and condi remove-healing from ventari. It doesnt need to be a 1200 range. just give him 600 or a bit less.

-Less energie cost/higher heals for ventari. Since it is only for healing make the ventari skills less costly and/or heal for more(no dmg output whatsoever)
If you want a stance only for healing make it count and let him heal more then just 4k very now and then which is nothing compared to what other classes easily can put out as dmg(or as heal like heal guard with way more viable options and boons). Also keep in mind someone with ventari will need to go cleric to make the ventari stance useful but still he has to switch stance from time to time. Other stances wont allow heal beside weapon heal abilties so make the time he CAN use heals in ventari count for burst heals maybe remove casttime on Natural harmonie after swichting into Ventari stance( or make it as a trait that after switch to ventari instant cast 1 ability) to make it more interresting and give him the bility to burst heal.

-Remove energie costs for Weapon abilities(at least for ventari since he cant deal much dmg anyway)
-Rework Elite, Less energie or instant cast or something entierly different its really weak compared to other elite rev forms.

- like i mentioned Ventari useres need to go for healpower to be usefull maybe offer traits to make stance switch faster since other stances dont offer heals.(Or like a trait" when struck chance to reset Ventari cooldown or something like that) Just an idea not really needed just something i thought could help make it more viable

This are just my ideas on Ventari. I hope they change a lot otherwise i dont see a place for it since other players stated you dont see anyone with this stance and i havent seen anyone either. If no drastic changes are made i dont see a point in bothering with it anymore and should just get rid of it.

I wasnt talking bout “miller vs drakkar” i was jsut talking bout Mya vs drakkar…i dont know what ms vs drakkar fights look like and i dont really care. Miller-zerg is not “my zerg” in any way!!

You are right…we werent there yesterday…no raid…because of the reasons i said( see guilds like dF have the same problem but) But good job winning fights and getting lootbags anyway

We dont get the fights we want against drakkar…there are no guilds to fight the public zergs mostly ran/port away…or if they fight it is still not entertaining.

And personally i didnt meet any drakkar roamers to fights outside prime…solo drakkars are mostly doing some map completion or so…no challenge and no fun

The SoW warri has fractal shiedl and calls everyone “f**** german” “f*** you” ..he is mad i guess or stood up with the wrong foot

Yes we had some good smallscale fights…always see you XX and a few SoW raomign together so we decided to join in

Overall i can say i like ranik more and more..they dont have enough population for MS and their guild-groups run mostnly under 20 guys so not our size but even than some have the balls to fight. Ranik isnt desinged for silver servers i guess but they put up a fight, respect duels as i can tell and you can find a lot roaming action against them!
This doesnt include a SoW warri…he jsut instults people for no reason but everone has such palyers i guess^^

as for drakkar…i can only say i hope to never meet that server again its absolutly no fun for me

Like the french guild EsCG or something like that…round 5-10 guys normally found on EB
You guys are nuts attack every guildgroup you see I like that attitude

you have some vids or so? would like to see some more from you!

Great action on Miller-Homelands today aswell! Thx to all participating guilds!

Very impressive movement by VII!

Awesome evening on Gunnar BL today!!!

Thx to everyone that participated especially TUP ,VcY and HoB from Aurora!

Finally a raid really worth it!

that must be cuz of the fact that its almost the only thing to do if u want to survive the other groups…and maybe they were angry and let it out on you

I am also just saying what i have seen so far..maybe i m just unlucky to run in the easy mode guys^^

Sadly…solo roaming in this matchup is dead so far!
Everyone teaming up with guildies running op 1v1 builds ganking solo roamers.
I dont really care for /dance and randoms ganking up on someone…but if even guilds(that are normally known for smallscale) doing"smallscale" aint open for 1v1(yes u can gank after the 1v1 if u need the stacks soo bad )

hope for some refreshing changes in the week but doesnt look too promising

Oh you SOUL guys sry that we had to do some killing on you but some of us would have been infight otherwise

A big shout out to the FSP guild DFS or DFC…well i kinda forgot the tag but that must be cuz of your sneakyness You surprised us on so many times yesterday really good engaging from you guys..shocked us every time
we were terrified that you could be behind every corner on the bl waiting for us

Awesome last evening on Ranik homelands! Thx to everyone that was part of it!

Sry GoD guys but you put us in combat at some point….so we were forced to attack you

Rapsod.4629 now that u mention it..what happened to coin? Dont tell me they disbanded!

I see….Raniks finest forum-warriors was send upon us!! Everyone be careful they are here for a bloodshed!(Rumors they have 250k kills on forum reached months ago!)

Random pics of 2 enemy servers fighting? [X]
Funny accusations? [X]
Managed to start a flame war? [ ]

Sry SoW not gonna happen! Love especially when your raid kills solo [Mya]s and spam emotes…shows sportmanship and grown-up! <3

Back to important things…serious problems in this game if it can be called game…not sure bout that cuz it aint playable anymore for most of the time -.-

Sorry Kodora that u didnt enjoyed the fights.

But when the fights came we were only 24 guys in BL…we had mostly no queue on the BL cuz no commander tag was on the map so randoms sticked to other maps.

You did realize that all your guildgroups fought us all together whole evening?
Mabye us 24 were the reason for lagg…but can also be your zone and the fact that dF hat fights with Deso zone at the same time.

On reset we had to face GoD(guild fielding 40 or even 50?) and EXG and were 16 ourselfes cuz of queue and DCs….you had many different guild groups yesterday with same size as ours and still i cant recall all the names cuz they were mostly all together(except aZm…we had couple fights agaisnt them alone) and see us complain bout numbers?
For the ppt…we held every keep and tower of the map for short time!!. We held 3 keeps even longer we always had points as much as our third on the map..mostly more and that without Queue on the BL with mostly jsut us and dF so 50 guys on the map from miller only.

Is it so hard for some to say " Ty for the fights you guys did well on the bl! "?
Hope the thread stays relaxed and without flame as it has before!
Looking forward to the week!

Good fights on Deso-BL…skill delay/laggs where horrible at some points but cant do much bout it.

dF and us worked very well together(again props to dF <3 ) and only the time we took garri we joined forces…well not even there we merged into one zerg we were pretty seperated even while taking garri.

At the beginning we were all worried we wouldnt get much action on the map but both server throw good numbers at us! we had a blast! Hope the week will offer good fights and less skill delay/lagg

take care see you on the field!

If the laggs will be there any longer we will go for guardian raid only spam 1…seems almost only solution these days :/

Ty FURY+TOE for they fights anyway…would have been awesome with skills working :/

Ty for the fights even tho mya had some kind of smallscale going on with 17 guys max most of the time against your guilds

Also cant blame you for being close to each other….there was jsut too much action going on in our garri ( we also only look for orange swords and go there )

Fights got better for us in the end hope to be a better match for you in the week

edit: skill delay and laggs at beginng was just …. anet need to fix this no fun at all

OMG!!!
Piken ganking solo roamers again as always!! SCREENED!!

Have fun this week everyone! May everyone get the fights that they’re looking for

dF+CoN you did run alone good fights there (shame CoN didnt had enough for own raid would be even more fights ) Thx to NEWS GD dF+CoN…think we all ran bout that same numbers 20~ and therefore had some good clashes!

I have to say that GH has some amazing Forum-Coverage!!!

But guys..seriously..its the weekend and reset for as long as most players play this game you should know that weekends doesnt equal the week at all^^

This matchup has Guilds to fight this matchup has blobbs to fight! With the skilldelay almost gone its possible now to fight blobbs….sure its hard but even if u lose you now can give it a good try since skills work properly.
After all its a game so everyone relax and dont blame superior server for the matchup^^

So have fun everyone..i am looking forward meeting CE..very eager to see how u guys turned out i will def join some evening raids for that purpose

GL and have as much fun as u can get out of such matchup

We and some other guilds were on homelands aswell but we had to face 70+ elonas with golems and a very big zerg from Jade(mostly 2 guild groups and some randoms) on the BL.

And nearly everything was paper anyway…gates just melted in seconds.

Be happy that GoW decided to tag up otherwise there would have been no commander on the map!

Thx for the fights today!
Some good fights with GoD at the start before numbers were too high for our group.
Thx to a kodash guild EoW i think running same numbers sadly we didnt see you that often today and ofc coin special thx to coin we really needed the action to get back into the game

Dranul…that is pure art! Hilarious! and awesome editing with PunKs view aswell ! great stuff!:)

That guild-tag seems good to attract enemies eh?

If anybody is interested..heres a video from the week from our beloved movie-maker

Not many fights versus guilds (a few against DAWN when they had open mic event) included cuz these GvG fights were hard to find in that week.
Its more focusing on the fights with very few against many numbers.
..best part imo holding bay with 25 millers max against multiple waves of enemys at the end and part in the middel were we “share” a massive abaddon army with QQ…very good action there.

haha ty for the vid
its great to see how bad we were ..alsways funny to look up our old videos but on the other hand good to see how much we improved
sweet memories

Not true Tongun! You had a GvG against us waaaayy back in the days
Anyone recorded it or has it on stream? would like to watch the GvGs always interested in stuff like that. I didnt mean the old one…i mean the new GvGs

And a warm and loving welcome to HoB …could only get a small clash against you guys today hope for thrilling fights the next days/weeks

Thx DAWN and open mic add ons for he thrilling fights hope you guys still had a blast

You gave us the best fights this evening by far! Abbadon didnt show up that much on their own BL…we attacked lot of t3 stuff hoping them to come for us but nearly noone came seems like abba was very active on our homelands but we couldn switch BL :/
Maybe next raid more fights

Very hard fights TUP! Cheers!! Sadly i joined only at the end but hope everyone enjoyed the fights!

So much challenge to fight you guys! Most underrated guild in game i think

…3:2 for you wam?…kitten i need to get my kitten together

Edit: Great vid….awesome golfing

SOE from Gunnars ! N1 fight against you finally we found a guild to fight alone i think we even were same numbers aswell

Props to FURY aswell completly alone today! Cheers! we couldnt match your numbers but still fun challenging fights! Keep running solo

Sry that the portal bomb gone wrong..we saw it too late ! sry for that!

Very intense and awesome fight u had there with QQ!
..and i loved the bonus material! it’s on!!…no superiors for me…pff ..i will teach you to give me superiour gravestones next time!

sad sad raid…actually hoping for new matchups…..

Could have been a promising matchup during primtime…..i never was sooo wrong!

Nah it was not good today No fights at all you guys slack way too much today with only 15 guys Personal-Highlight of the raid—> kicking Wamgor down the cliffs with guard hammer skill 4

We went AG homelands cuz we hoped for Guild-Groups or others to fight. Your random-zerg only deffed the T3 stuff which is nothing i complain bout everyone would do that so we didnt get a proper fight there ( no offense every server would stay in keep to def t3 stuff millers gunnars ag etc..)
Open field there was only TUP with 15~ guys….couldnt match our 25~ …and map change wasnt an option cuz of queue …ended raid very very early.
If someone is raiding with good numbers tomorrow plz wsp us so we can meet on the field

Gonna be hard wekk for Gunnars but you guys put up good fights today thats all that matters dont look a the points u will have lots of + this weel anyway

TUP <3 ! and grats to Krato aswell
We started and ended raid on EB as always on reset. Its a fun way to get see some new stuff when normally we are only on BLs I hope we can get our rematch this week in a GvG agaisnt u guys looking forward to it
Fury and Fire were strong opponents on EB just like all the others there…insane fights all over the map!
But still remember its weekend and reset….its always full maps and big zergs so i think match will even get better for you Gunnars when the week starts again
Mya had a blast on EB this reset thx to all servers!

The guild [BLOB] says thx to all the blobbad….i mean abaddons we could fight this reset! One of the most entertaining resets ever! At the start you guys where really shy but u came out often to fight! We had a blast fighting that skill delay monster of yours in EB and later on some BLs hope that you will continue to roam the map with your blobb.

I think i never made more gold/kills in a few hours
SO cheers to everyone and we hope that the fights will go on this way

…and remember abbadon…we are here to hunt you

We had a blast on EB reset! Sadly we could only get enough numbers to fight RoF open field but had some awesome defending action against Gandara…you definitely wanted your towers back at all cost
Anyway in the week we probably will be back on the BL’s

Hope to get some good fights! and Welcome back Gandara

Thx to everyone( mostly on AG BL :p) for the fun week we had. I would say best matchup so far for roaming guilds.
I wouldnt mind get the same matchup again but i also would switch one of you guys out for piken oder baruch bay because of the guilds there. But just for a week or so then i would want this matchup again greetz to XxX aswell we are looking forward to do a GvG against you guys next time we meet just tell us when you are open for some GvG action

Yesterday was hard for us cuz our numbers werent good and numbers dropped fast too :/
Hope to get more players this evening to get you guys the fights you deserve and we all want!
Hope to see TUP Dius and Dawn maybe YaK and RL all on same BL today so everyone has more enemys to choose to fight

@ Dark lord killer:
The things u wrote in you first posts are just false…soo false so i didnt even read you other posts. TDA had no fun that evening and they were a bit frustraded and i can relate to that if your raid dont find fights that are worth logging in.
But you then accuse every guild tag you’ve ever seen this matchup of things u dont even understand and your statements are just plain wrong.
Personally i dont wish anyone to fight RS or AM and i dont think AG “blobbs” are too bad….btw there will NEVER be a matchup without any blobbs because non-guild players also want to enjoy their time in wvw and as an organised guild fighting blobbs can be a change and can be fun too if it doesnt happen too often
DAWN and YaK entertaining video of your GvG must have been very tense with that score

only had some fun 1v1 at miller bl windmill today but how did the gvg go? Yak is a strong guild! Sadly we did not meet you Dawn guys till now but you guys are very good aswell maybe we see each other next days we are normally in ag bl with aroubd 25 guys!

well n1 fights today aswell…but stop the flame plz i know u dont mean it we Fought with 25 guys your whole zone “group” at start of evening and u even started building 2+ ACs and Balistas i think open field …its fine with us we dont complain.
It was never our intention but the whole map was between bay and garri a long time from all servers so you could say everyone was blobbing and everyone dissapointed you. After the skill delay started we went somewhere else to splitt the fights abit all over the map which worked and no “blobbs” then.

Btw you are talking bout an hour of the evening and that is enough to judge us? Well ok as long as the good fights keep comming (TUP!!!) its fine with us

Well guys i think we raised the bar for this matchup yesterday! Insane action on AG BL and as it seems on our homelands aswell!
I am not sure if we can top yesterday but i think everyone will try
And for YaK TUP and others that run our numbers…i think we could find a way to always meet a the same BLs if queues allows us too
Hope to see you guys on the BL today evening !
Ps: also looking forward to fighting that uncatchable JDGE asura mesmer again

Well…not the best vid. Guild-Groups they fought seemd very small and stuff but comon now that they try you can’t bash them for it.
If you dont like the infamous abba-blobb encourage them more do run without commander tag and as a guild and not flame the times they try^^

Greetings to Gandara..especially to Dius and YaK hope to see you soon guys..maybe next matchup!

Sad to see FSP blaming every server to blob even if they have no guild group that runs 20-25 on their entire server since DeX left^^

But AG is a fantastic replacement for Gandara! Almost same number of roaming guilds. [NP] [DAWN] [TUP] ands i think there are many more we did not encounter yet
MS Guilds can only improve when we meet servers like AG or Gandara! Hope to get some good fights this week.

PS: i am not going to post my Pics of FSP 60+….just stop the flame about blobbing…every server does it sometimes and we try to keep the blobb population as low as it is in this matchup.

Well… besides the flame shifty constantly trying to get into the thread( Not gonna happen shifty ) This matchup is great and we hope the constellation of servers will last a while!
[DYE] really kicked us out of FSP BL yesterday! Hope to get some revenge the next days
Thx for Dius for being so spontaneous and big shout out to gandaras guild based community! Very impressive!

Great Videos so far!
Here is one from us. We run 15-20 people max in this vid but still some good Zerg/Guild wipes Enjoy!