Guild Wars 2

Lyger.5429:

Is it normal to open pre-purchases w/o a release date, just curios as I haven’t pre-ordered before.

This is the first I’ve seen it done.

Yup, they are trying to laugh it off.

Zenthieth.9431:

I’d just like to point out that the $50 option gives you the base game and the expansion, WITHOUT the extra stuff you would get from buying the deluxe edition of the base game. The last price of the deluxe edition was $20, so I would assume the expansion is $40 while just the base game is $10, which isn’t too terribly much to buy again. I also see $40 being a very fair price for the expansion, so at most I would see anet dropping $10 off the expansion if you already have it, but I highly doubt it. At any rate, I already bought the $75 package and if HoT is as good as anet is letting on, then I’ll stand by my choice.

Also as a side note, there is no way anet is only releasing 3 new areas. I’d say about 7, each of those with the 3 jungle level system they said, and also each being a fairly good size, definitely bigger than any of the maps in the game at launch (maybe not as amount of space the map takes up, but verticality makes up for that).

Actually, if you see this post the base game was $40 a few hours ago.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Isn-t-this-shady/first#post5156962

Errant.1509:

Is there any way this wasn’t a bait-and-switch? The HoT FAW made it clear that you needed to purchase the expansion separately from the base game.

Yep, everyone make sure to check this cached page out and screen cap.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AzixDtVWWPHoJ%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fhelp.guildwars2.com%2Fentries%2F105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ%2B%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus

That’s the google cached page. ^

Everyone SCREEN CAP!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AzixDtVWWPHoJ%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fhelp.guildwars2.com%2Fentries%2F105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ%2B%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus

Arioso.8519:

Random Wax Orc.7695:

Arioso.8519:

In fact what they DID say is “The base game will be required to play the expansion.”

If this is true, then it probably legally actionable. Not that I am a lawyer or anything, nor offering legal advice.

Yes, but they already updated their FAQ page. I hope someone had the foresight to screencap the original version.

Here
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AzixDtVWWPHoJ%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fhelp.guildwars2.com%2Fentries%2F105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ%2B%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zixDtVWWPHoJ:https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Screen cap that just in case everyone.

Arioso.8519:

Random Wax Orc.7695:

Arioso.8519:

In fact what they DID say is “The base game will be required to play the expansion.”

If this is true, then it probably legally actionable. Not that I am a lawyer or anything, nor offering legal advice.

Yes, but they already updated their FAQ page. I hope someone had the foresight to screencap the original version.

Check the googled cache.

If you google “gw2 buy” and cache the page. You’ll see the “DIGITAL HERO EDITION” was $40 two hours ago. Now the expansion includes that core game for $50, without the 3 extras that no one really cared much for. These were: Suit of Legacy Armor, Mithril Box, and 10 Experience Boosters. So if you’re a veteran, the idea is you pay $40 for the core game and $10 for the expansion. The idea is the expansion price is being inflamed, it’s actual price is around $20-$30. We would have agreed to $35, but not anymore. They just make the game more expensive than it is, and make it sound good. But veteran players get screwed, and new people basically pay $40 for the game, and $10 for the expansion. If they bought it after they release the pre-purchase. The point is that, veteran players get screwed. And new players get a great deal. When it should be at best equal on both ends, because both veteran and new players should matter. More so the veterans, who sunk their money into the GemStore like most of us have.

lithiumwing.5493:

But it’s not $50 for the bundle, you’re buying the expansion for $50 and they’re throwing in the core game as a bonus. :/

Go google guild wars 2 buy, and look up the cached page you’ll see what I talked about in another post. Those new players will have to deal this this. Because, two hours ago Guild Wars 2 “DIGITAL HEROIC EDITION” was sold for $40. Then they added the expansion for $50 including the $40 game without the 3 extra meh items… that no one cared much for anyway. So yeah.. we gotta buy the game again for $40 it seems, and then pay $10. Great job.

Arahzor.1832:

Kenjiro.2671:

Arioso.8519:

In fact what they DID say is “The base game will be required to play the expansion.”

The implication was that there was no reason to wait to buy.

Honestly, I don’t have a great amount of Leeway to complain about the pricing because I got it on sale for $20 and have been playing for nearly a year. Not a bad value, honestly.

You on the other hand, you were literally lied to and ripped off if you believed that line in the FAQ and bought the game within the last couple of months.

I actually remember seeing that part you quoted and I was like “cool! So i’ll get to understand the game a bit before the expansion”.

Well I do understand now….
I Understand that i’ve wasted my time and money if they really do nothing to fix this

You are in the same boat as us Veterans now, we got to pay for the game again to get the expansion. No other way!

On the bright side, 45 euros is not that bad considered that we don’t got to pay monthly

I’ll see you on the next expansion, when they screw the veterans again. Maybe I’ll buy it then, I’ll get this one for free. Cuz I’ll be a “new player”.

Two hours ago Guild Wars 2 “DIGITAL HEROIC EDITION” was sold for $40. Then they added the expansion for $50 including the $40 game without the 3 extra meh items… that no one cared much for anyway. So yeah.. we gotta buy the game again for $40 it seems, and then pay $10. Great job.

Two hours ago Guild Wars 2 “DIGITAL HEROIC EDITION” was sold for $40. Then they added the expansion for $50 including the $40 game without the 3 extra meh items… that no one cared much for anyway. So yeah.. we gotta buy the game again for $40 it seems, and then pay $10 for an expansion. Great job.

shox.3971:

This arguing over $50 is pathetic, its a one time $50 you spend, and never have to again on this game. Half of the people complaining have spent easily over $100 on just gems, so why is $50 so unfair? They are charging people the same price as any other gaming company in this world today charges. Get over it, its $50. If that is too much money then either you don’t truly like this game enough to invest in it, or you should be making money instead of playing it.

Yup, you spent $100 on gems. There lies more of our anger. We spent tons of money on gems, and now they want more MONEY? And they don’t care for the current players, current player reward? NOPE.

If a smart phone company followed this strategy, and stated “No more new apps for your Smart Phone 5, and you have to buy another of the same Smart Phone 5 to buy and download new apps.” And on top of that another seller sells the same phone for a fraction of the price already, because the company that made those phones decided to sell it for a cheaper price for a limited time. During that time, they were bought in bulk and then sold for cheaper elsewhere. So now you get that new phone, it’s the same and you have a new app.

Arioso.8519:

In fact what they DID say is “The base game will be required to play the expansion.”

The implication was that there was no reason to wait to buy.

Honestly, I don’t have a great amount of Leeway to complain about the pricing because I got it on sale for $20 and have been playing for nearly a year. Not a bad value, honestly.

You on the other hand, you were literally lied to and ripped off if you believed that line in the FAQ and bought the game within the last couple of months.

I got the game a year back, for 40. Deluxe Edition, if i remember correctly. I have 4 max characters, and spent way more than $50 in micro-transactions. And this is what I get, great.

xBrownZ.7360:

Kenjiro.2671:

What happens to the players who just bought the game for only a few weeks?
Since the only cheapest choice was the heroic edition, I blindly bought it for $40.

Why didn’t A-net post a notice to new players who wanted to get the game? Something like “Heart of Thrones is going to be released soon! Do you want to wait until it is released to reap the benefits of our special offers?” or something along those lines.

I feel scammed because I had no clue you had to buy it (sorry for being a long time f2p mmo player) and I had no warning that this would’ve happened.

And if nothing is done about it, even a good quick buck was made, the reputation damage would outweigh it imo.

I’ll answer for AreaNet. “Don’t care, hahahaha.”

They have been replying with jokes, they think it’s funny that they hurt their current players.

Kenjiro.2671:

What happens to the players who just bought the game for only a few weeks?
Since the only cheapest choice was the heroic edition, I blindly bought it for $40.

Why didn’t A-net post a notice to new players who wanted to get the game? Something like “Heart of Thrones is going to be released soon! Do you want to wait until it is released to reap the benefits of our special offers?” or something along those lines.

I feel scammed because I had no clue you had to buy it (sorry for being a long time f2p mmo player) and I had no warning that this would’ve happened.

And if nothing is done about it, even a good quick buck was made, the reputation damage would outweigh it imo.

I’ll answer for AreaNet. “Don’t care, hahahaha.”

Losing my care for HoT. Maybe I’ll play it in a few years, when it becomes free too, and they screw those current players by “getting new players” with the next expansion. What about “keeping current players”. I don’t think new players want to be treated like this in the future, and that’s why this marketing strategy is worse than New Coke.

Look’s like they want to be on this list. http://www.dailyfinance.com/photos/top-25-biggest-product-flops-of-all-time/

steve.2945:

they are doing worse than activision, selling a destiny expansion for 40$. anet 1-upped them and went for $50. GREAT JOB gaiz.

They dug their own grave, let’s hope they try to climb out.

I’m not buying HoT, and I don’t think I can even settle for micro-transactions. If this is what they think about the current players.

You paid $100 for that? Good job, you should get a campfire started. You can roast your money on a stick.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Why not the standard edition?

When gw1 releases New expansions with new professions, they gave out equal number of free additional character slots. I hope Anet reconsiders tis ASAP.

P.S. I am totally fine with the $50 price which includes the core game.

Not enough.

Phat Stackage.5329:

Nice way to treat all the players that just bought your game recently

I need to add HoT to this list http://www.dailyfinance.com/photos/top-25-biggest-product-flops-of-all-time/

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

To clarify: $50 is the price of the expansion. We included the core game as a free bonus to make it easier for new players to get into it.

Good job, now the revenue for micro-transactions will drop drastically. The ends wont justify the means.

If I knew about this 2 years ago, I wouldn’t put a penny into micro-transactions. No more GemStore for me if it’s gonna be like this.

AreaNet makes so much out of micro-transactions. GTA V also has micro-transactions, but the difference is that the DLC content has remained free due to micro-transactions. I’m not asking for free, but when veteran players are putting money after they buy the game in micro-transactions we shouldn’t have to deal with this.

I just came back on to see what’s new, but now I don’t care.

upsdn.5426:

In all the threads expressing ire about the pricing shown in the Gem Store for HoT preorders, I frequently see statements such as:

“Instead of looking at it as you’re being shafted, maybe look at it as being easier to get new people into the game. New blood is good, yes?”

Think about this for a moment. The HoT preorder options are only available in the gem store at this minute. And there was a little popup flag in-game that redirected me to the Gem Store page for HoT. There is no way that this is for new players. It’s for players who already have the game, and are playing it right now.

I can’t possibly be the only one who understands this.

I feel you, this is stupid. Especially, when a lot of their current players have sunk money into the GemStore. Then they pull this, not cool. The hype for HoT died today, let’s see what AreaNet does.

Kenjiro.2671:

Orochimaru.4730:

You can still ask for a refund via a support ticket.

I don’t want a refund, I want justice (that sounded so corny)

But honestly, they can keep my 40, I just want to see that they try to do something besides make corny jokes on threads instead of keeping their players happy.

Right, I though they were better than the rest. But I guess the best now is GTA V, they got enough money from the monetary transactions that DLCs were kept free because of em. I’m not saying the expansion should be free, but what just happened was uncalled for.

Many people have put a decent amount of money into the Gem Store. To pull this type of stunt is just a big middle finger at those ‘loyal’ players. They might not be ‘loyal’ anymore, GREAT job guys.

I think we should be Guaranteed DELUXE if we own the game already. Especially if we have the DELUXE version of the core game.