Guild Wars 2

Arenanet really needs to do this. It’s not like it would be hard, and you would have a lot of people that would probably be willing to help out if any issues arise. You already have an OSX platform which uses Open GL like Linux. I’m tired of having to play on an emulator and would like to play on a native client. Valve has already made the move to the future.

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Avatar.1923:

probably because this game is not designed to be farmed.

What about when you need to craft something but you can’t ever get the items requied because of horrible drop rates? Just buy it right, well have fun doing that every time you need to do something. This brings up another issue, DR. Have fun farming for endless hours. You say it’s not designed to be farmed, but thats probably 80% of this game.

80% grind lol……….. Aion is 80%, FFXI is 250%. Everyone says mats, but which mats specifically are people looking for.

I realize other games are grind orientated, but this game was touted as a non-grind type, yet look at the achievements for WvW and some of the legendary requirements, these are two minor examples because there are many more.

But there needs to be something keeping people playing. You can’t just have everyone “beating” the game in a month. Its an MMO after all and requires consistent material to keep it interesting. These things are time sinks, optional at that. And they may require what some consider grind, but barely anything in this game is “essential” and the best things in game that aren’t about looks take very little time to achieve.

What will keep people playing is more content not weapons and skins which pretty much composes the end game now. They are time sinks however GW2 was never supposed to be that, maybe it was just viral marketing and they were being unhonest when they said it was a game for casuals. The last time PvE got real content was the lost shores event.

As far as I understood from some posts online GW1 charged you for expansions, whereas GW2 relies on sales of game and gem sales for content. So we will get content to keep us happy but the game is what 7 months old? Most people haven’t even experienced the game and now we have living story. Heck I hit 80 before I ever did a dungeon.. Which by the way if you don’t do it, you literally miss out as it will disappear. Anything grindy is optional, and content will come in time. I’d much rather prefer it comes steady and well done than quickly and poorly programmed. We don’t want a guild wars that is a windows xp upgraded to a windows vista.. We want good quality content, and that is what they are working on. but it takes time, and people need a chance to experience it. The living story alone is blatantly casual, it can be done in a day by hardcore players, but is easy enough for casual players to finish in a month of barely playing. Things like this is what people asked for, is not a huge expansion, its just the beginning.

GW1 did charge for expansions and I played GW1 extensively and I own every expansion for it, and I didn’t have any issues buying and paying for those expansions because every single one added really great new content and they added tons of it. Thanks for bringing up the horrible story in which I’m sure a preschooler could have written better content. I used to be a huge GW2 fan until I stopped drinking the kool-aid. I still play the game regularly but GW2 is not what it was touted to be. Also DR pretty much stops any player from effectively farming a zone or a certain type of monster for some quick gold, because yes gold is everything in these games.

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zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

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probably because this game is not designed to be farmed.

What about when you need to craft something but you can’t ever get the items requied because of horrible drop rates? Just buy it right, well have fun doing that every time you need to do something. This brings up another issue, DR. Have fun farming for endless hours. You say it’s not designed to be farmed, but thats probably 80% of this game.

80% grind lol……….. Aion is 80%, FFXI is 250%. Everyone says mats, but which mats specifically are people looking for.

I realize other games are grind orientated, but this game was touted as a non-grind type, yet look at the achievements for WvW and some of the legendary requirements, these are two minor examples because there are many more.

But there needs to be something keeping people playing. You can’t just have everyone “beating” the game in a month. Its an MMO after all and requires consistent material to keep it interesting. These things are time sinks, optional at that. And they may require what some consider grind, but barely anything in this game is “essential” and the best things in game that aren’t about looks take very little time to achieve.

What will keep people playing is more content not weapons and skins which pretty much composes the end game now. They are time sinks however GW2 was never supposed to be that, maybe it was just viral marketing and they were being unhonest when they said it was a game for casuals. The last time PvE got real content was the lost shores event.

GW2 was always about weapons and skins, i.e legendary weapons.

this game is very casual friendly, please provide examples for what a casual player is resstrict from participating in and maybe people can directly address your concerns.

for PvE content, expansions will come in time, very likely one this year (in the fall)

Drop rates/tables, like has been addressed before, in many threads. Most of my casual playing friends quite this game a long time ago because of the previous stated issue. It’s very hard to play a game when you don’t even have money to teleport.

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zlatna bosna.4178:

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zlatna bosna.4178:

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probably because this game is not designed to be farmed.

What about when you need to craft something but you can’t ever get the items requied because of horrible drop rates? Just buy it right, well have fun doing that every time you need to do something. This brings up another issue, DR. Have fun farming for endless hours. You say it’s not designed to be farmed, but thats probably 80% of this game.

80% grind lol……….. Aion is 80%, FFXI is 250%. Everyone says mats, but which mats specifically are people looking for.

I realize other games are grind orientated, but this game was touted as a non-grind type, yet look at the achievements for WvW and some of the legendary requirements, these are two minor examples because there are many more.

But there needs to be something keeping people playing. You can’t just have everyone “beating” the game in a month. Its an MMO after all and requires consistent material to keep it interesting. These things are time sinks, optional at that. And they may require what some consider grind, but barely anything in this game is “essential” and the best things in game that aren’t about looks take very little time to achieve.

What will keep people playing is more content not weapons and skins which pretty much composes the end game now. They are time sinks however GW2 was never supposed to be that, maybe it was just viral marketing and they were being unhonest when they said it was a game for casuals. The last time PvE got real content was the lost shores event.

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Avatar.1923:

probably because this game is not designed to be farmed.

What about when you need to craft something but you can’t ever get the items requied because of horrible drop rates? Just buy it right, well have fun doing that every time you need to do something. This brings up another issue, DR. Have fun farming for endless hours. You say it’s not designed to be farmed, but thats probably 80% of this game.

80% grind lol……….. Aion is 80%, FFXI is 250%. Everyone says mats, but which mats specifically are people looking for.

I realize other games are grind orientated, but this game was touted as a non-grind type, yet look at the achievements for WvW and some of the legendary requirements, these are two minor examples because there are many more.

tigirius.9014:

zlatna bosna.4178:

DR is still in effect and drops will still be horrible. We didn’t have 26 pages of nothingness and people complaining just because they wanted to complain. The DR system is horrible, it does absolutely nothing to combat bots, but what it does is drive players to higher level zones for the small chance of receiving better loot. No matter what Anet does to attempt to curb this they will never succeed until they remove DR.

Absolutely right.

DR requires teleports. Players can’t do free teleports or teleports every second to maximize goals. Bots do illegal untrackable teleports all the time and can teleport away long before someone can even take a screenshot. = DR only affects players.

If I am to believe Jon Peters they still have that to fix if they want to keep legit farmer players which he claims are players they like and want to keep.

IMO this DR thing combined with too much RNG for T6 mats (yeah they added 2 more RNG ways of getting T6 mats instead of a direct from vendor type of purchase for karma or laurels.) are just as troublesome as the vet/champion bug.

I guess you’re saying don’t give up on them taking down DR because it really doesn’t do anything to the bots it’s only harming us players.

Yeah I was going to mention this but I have before and nothing came to light. DR is implemented and bots change their tactics, instead of having huge roving farms they are building tele hacks and farming ore and materials. I’m a programmer and I can tell you it’s really easy to write code for these games because the devs didn’t do that great of a job in the first place, also I just realized I got an infraction on the forums because I’m calling anet out? Seriously moderators? I said nothing harmful or rude in any of my posts, if you think I’m lieing there are tons and tons of underground hacking communities exploiting your game, and you can find these exploits with a simple google search. Like I said and will continue to say, DR only hurts legit players but that doesn’t matter because Anet is still making money off of gems.

Avatar.1923:

probably because this game is not designed to be farmed.

What about when you need to craft something but you can’t ever get the items requied because of horrible drop rates? Just buy it right, well have fun doing that every time you need to do something. This brings up another issue, DR. Have fun farming for endless hours. You say it’s not designed to be farmed, but thats probably 80% of this game.

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

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Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Geotherma.2395:

Everyone should get much gold, no matter how much effort they put in. Everyone should get the same amount of reward. Because that’s the way the world works so the game should be this way too. Oh wait.. that’s communism.

And if players are hunting these champs all day your going to most likely never make it to the event before they are dead. See: Maw. There are usually more 80’s at Maw than in all of the WvW area. This what you will have in every area if this were to happen.

Have you even downed any champs? They usually take at least 5 mins (with a really well co-ordinated team) to down. Im pretty sure most players in the zone can make it to them within 5 mins (aslong as someone shouts in zone chat that the champ is up – as what usually happens anyway).

Also, having alot of 80s spread about the open world can NEVER be a bad thing… since anet designed their systems to be based of co-operation rather than competition.

It doesn’t pay off to go to any other zone as an 80. With DR the only reason to go to a lower level zone is if you need mats or some sort of achievement.

But they do. I could post tons of pictures where level 80’s are all but in an alliance at Maw a level 15ish event. Where 60 people are at the level 60 dragon, WVW is empty, and level 60’s are in queensdale killing the troll or Wasp Queen.

I could do the same, and really it’s all dependent on your server. Some servers are completely abandoned in these aspects while others flourish but that brings me back to my original point, it pays better to be in a higher level zone. Why would I be in a level 15 zone [even with scaling] when I could be in a level 80 zone making money?

I think because it is quick, most people can finish maw in a few minutes like low level dragons. And they get a chest which has a chance at rares/exotics which are scaled to level 80. Which of course are worth more. But its an option not a way of playing 100% of the time. Orr does get monotonous even for someone like me who farms for hours and loves to grind heh :P

I haven’t received anything past a green since november from a Chest. I’ve done all the dragons, many of the world bosses, tons of dungeons, fractals as well. The most drops I’ve ever received when was I was grinding pent/shelt for a while, I made like 80s an hour with full MF gear. Hell I received better items from jumping puzzles than any other thing in the game.

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Geotherma.2395:

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Geotherma.2395:

Everyone should get much gold, no matter how much effort they put in. Everyone should get the same amount of reward. Because that’s the way the world works so the game should be this way too. Oh wait.. that’s communism.

And if players are hunting these champs all day your going to most likely never make it to the event before they are dead. See: Maw. There are usually more 80’s at Maw than in all of the WvW area. This what you will have in every area if this were to happen.

Have you even downed any champs? They usually take at least 5 mins (with a really well co-ordinated team) to down. Im pretty sure most players in the zone can make it to them within 5 mins (aslong as someone shouts in zone chat that the champ is up – as what usually happens anyway).

Also, having alot of 80s spread about the open world can NEVER be a bad thing… since anet designed their systems to be based of co-operation rather than competition.

Yes I’ve solod many vets/helped kill champs. 5 minutes of my time for a porous bone DOES suck. BUT, I also spend 6 minute events making 2g. So when the lowest drop possible is a blue from a vet/champ, I’m fine with that. Every other game I’ve played with elite style monsters had worse drop rates, especially the ones that claim to have the rarest of items. I would spend hours killing 1 mob, who supposedly dropped some epic item just to get no coin, no loot, and a sad face. You have a BETTER chance to get BETTER loot from these champs and vets. even more so when teh update hits. But aside from those chances now you get GUARANTEED “something”. Good luck finding anything guaranteed in real life. If GW2 was realistic, you would see rares once a year and exotics by age 75. The only thing guaranteed is death and taxes, neither of which are fun. I make more off trash than most people make off selling exotics, rares combined. I have no problem with the loot drops as I do my best to work for what i get. And feel rewarded for such. I don’t depend on rare or exotic loot to keep me going, I know that it takes work and time to gain coin in this game. Depending on luck to survive is like putting two backpacks in a skydivers plane. One with a parachute and one stuffed with ACME socks and shirts. Your going to get to the ground one way or another, but what happens after is more important.

How would you feel if you weren’t rewarded for your hard work? I had full MF gear at least 200% of buffs and yet I farmed for weeks/months and really have little to show for it apart from my measly 7g and some achievements.

I’m not sure. Not to sound boastful and I’m truly not but I run with just food MF and make 2-3g an hour in Orr with DR, and with only simple 6 minute events. In between I gather materials like ore and trees. On my breaks when events aren’t up I’ll check the dragons or help with maw because my guild is there and I’m a guaranteed “raiser” :P

I’ve used 230% MF and found not much change other than in 80 areas. I dropped my MF gear and stuck with just food and the 10% loot buff from guild. I make between 16-23g a day off everything that isn’t yellow or gold. When i do get yellows its a big deal and fun for me. And I think that’s exactly how it should feel. The update is supposed to help and bring at least blues for people who do these vets and champs. I’m happy so long as my loot is steady which it has always been. With high MF the only thing I noticed was I gain more better quality as I know everyone aware, but what I’ve noticed is that blues were replacing my normal whites. Which is exactly how I make a profit is a steady flow of blue,green, and mats.

I ran with full MF gear and if I was lucky and really really collected every mat hardcore I can make like 10g a week, maybe. So you see this is where many people are angry, some players get tons and tons of drops and others really get nothing, for months on end.

Geotherma.2395:

zlatna bosna.4178:

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Geotherma.2395:

Everyone should get much gold, no matter how much effort they put in. Everyone should get the same amount of reward. Because that’s the way the world works so the game should be this way too. Oh wait.. that’s communism.

And if players are hunting these champs all day your going to most likely never make it to the event before they are dead. See: Maw. There are usually more 80’s at Maw than in all of the WvW area. This what you will have in every area if this were to happen.

Have you even downed any champs? They usually take at least 5 mins (with a really well co-ordinated team) to down. Im pretty sure most players in the zone can make it to them within 5 mins (aslong as someone shouts in zone chat that the champ is up – as what usually happens anyway).

Also, having alot of 80s spread about the open world can NEVER be a bad thing… since anet designed their systems to be based of co-operation rather than competition.

It doesn’t pay off to go to any other zone as an 80. With DR the only reason to go to a lower level zone is if you need mats or some sort of achievement.

But they do. I could post tons of pictures where level 80’s are all but in an alliance at Maw a level 15ish event. Where 60 people are at the level 60 dragon, WVW is empty, and level 60’s are in queensdale killing the troll or Wasp Queen.

I could do the same, and really it’s all dependent on your server. Some servers are completely abandoned in these aspects while others flourish but that brings me back to my original point, it pays better to be in a higher level zone. Why would I be in a level 15 zone [even with scaling] when I could be in a level 80 zone making money?

Geotherma.2395:

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Geotherma.2395:

Everyone should get much gold, no matter how much effort they put in. Everyone should get the same amount of reward. Because that’s the way the world works so the game should be this way too. Oh wait.. that’s communism.

And if players are hunting these champs all day your going to most likely never make it to the event before they are dead. See: Maw. There are usually more 80’s at Maw than in all of the WvW area. This what you will have in every area if this were to happen.

Have you even downed any champs? They usually take at least 5 mins (with a really well co-ordinated team) to down. Im pretty sure most players in the zone can make it to them within 5 mins (aslong as someone shouts in zone chat that the champ is up – as what usually happens anyway).

Also, having alot of 80s spread about the open world can NEVER be a bad thing… since anet designed their systems to be based of co-operation rather than competition.

Yes I’ve solod many vets/helped kill champs. 5 minutes of my time for a porous bone DOES suck. BUT, I also spend 6 minute events making 2g. So when the lowest drop possible is a blue from a vet/champ, I’m fine with that. Every other game I’ve played with elite style monsters had worse drop rates, especially the ones that claim to have the rarest of items. I would spend hours killing 1 mob, who supposedly dropped some epic item just to get no coin, no loot, and a sad face. You have a BETTER chance to get BETTER loot from these champs and vets. even more so when teh update hits. But aside from those chances now you get GUARANTEED “something”. Good luck finding anything guaranteed in real life. If GW2 was realistic, you would see rares once a year and exotics by age 75. The only thing guaranteed is death and taxes, neither of which are fun. I make more off trash than most people make off selling exotics, rares combined. I have no problem with the loot drops as I do my best to work for what i get. And feel rewarded for such. I don’t depend on rare or exotic loot to keep me going, I know that it takes work and time to gain coin in this game. Depending on luck to survive is like putting two backpacks in a skydivers plane. One with a parachute and one stuffed with ACME socks and shirts. Your going to get to the ground one way or another, but what happens after is more important.

How would you feel if you weren’t rewarded for your hard work? I had full MF gear at least 200% of buffs and yet I farmed for weeks/months and really have little to show for it apart from my measly 7g and some achievements.

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Geotherma.2395:

Everyone should get much gold, no matter how much effort they put in. Everyone should get the same amount of reward. Because that’s the way the world works so the game should be this way too. Oh wait.. that’s communism.

And if players are hunting these champs all day your going to most likely never make it to the event before they are dead. See: Maw. There are usually more 80’s at Maw than in all of the WvW area. This what you will have in every area if this were to happen.

Have you even downed any champs? They usually take at least 5 mins (with a really well co-ordinated team) to down. Im pretty sure most players in the zone can make it to them within 5 mins (aslong as someone shouts in zone chat that the champ is up – as what usually happens anyway).

Also, having alot of 80s spread about the open world can NEVER be a bad thing… since anet designed their systems to be based of co-operation rather than competition.

It doesn’t pay off to go to any other zone as an 80. With DR the only reason to go to a lower level zone is if you need mats or some sort of achievement.

da Marek.5984:

Not that anyone cares but HOW DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO ADMIT AN ISSUE?

Colin could just log-in once, kill 3 champions and realize he’s got nothing to show for half and hour of repetitive dodging.

Uh because Anet doesn’t listen to their community of players. If they did many of these issues would have been fixed a long time ago.

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this game isnt really based on “loot” anyway…
its there, its useful as a slow progression system, but by no mean you need or should farm tyria…

proof of that are the new laurels; they are not grind based.

That just added another currency for you to keep track of and shying away from the issue of horrible drops. How are dailies not a grind, especially with the recent changes? Everything in this game is grind based.

plasmacutter.2709:

saw the update, It did not address the utter dearth of rares for many while it rains rares for others, consistently, for months on end

This was not at all addressed.

I’m happy to see some resolution, but this is NOT what is plaguing my account, and the accounts of many, many other players, since 11/15.

I also notice the massive thread is now buried. Nice..

I’ve done dragons plenty of times, I have yet to receive anything more than a green since mid-november. Like I said before Anet doesn’t really care about your feelings, it’s all about the money, hence new gem content every month yet PvE is still lacking and bugged in many ways. Protip, find another game to play, I did and I’m not looking back. Hopefully Anet goes bankrupt and stops making games.

DR is still in effect and drops will still be horrible. We didn’t have 26 pages of nothingness and people complaining just because they wanted to complain. The DR system is horrible, it does absolutely nothing to combat bots, but what it does is drive players to higher level zones for the small chance of receiving better loot. No matter what Anet does to attempt to curb this they will never succeed until they remove DR.

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Mirta.5029:

Bean.1247:

Congratulations Tyrantis you seem to get decent drops however the threads were about those of us who do exactly the same as you but get hardly anything.
We don’t want loot upping we just want the same loot as you !

Yep Powercat seems like a dodge to me too and a great way to get rid of both the threads and bury the issues.

You’re playing with a random generator. The fact that your loot is not good always does not mean that there’s something wrong with it. I ran CoE for days now getting only blues. Went to metrica province to complete my daily, smacked a mob and got a yellow. It’s random. Sometimes you get unlucky for days, sometimes you get real luck streaks.

See, there is a problem with this generator. I run the same groups every night. We do a fractal and then we do a number of dungeons. My account (doesn’t matter what character I am on) get almost no loot EVERY NIGHT compared to the rest of the group. We have some folks that get exotics every night along with multiple shards of mist in the Fractals. All of my drops are usually grey and white with blues in the chest. This is not a sometimes thing, this is every night. Our group has 2 very lucky, 2 sometimes lucky, 1 unlucky. This never changes and is standard for at least the last month.

Random is random, this is a pattern.

No they clearly looked into the issue and it’s fixed, it’s okay, just do more damage. It’s not a grinding game at all either.

Don’t expect any type of fix, no matter what they do to the loot table you will still have to farm and grind for hours and hours even though this isn’t a “grinding” game. I’ll be quitting this as soon as ESO comes out, this game really really had a lot going for it, but anet is slowly ruining that. Anet wants your money, they don’t care about your opinion, we had a 26 page thread of people complaining of horrid drops and yet their fix is to look into it and adjust the requirements for you to qualify for a drop. DR is still in effect which is pretty much destroying PvE. Remember for a legendary you need to either farm a crap ton or buy gold. This game is ruined in more ways than one, take a look at some of the WvW achievements. As I said, this game is dead, and bots are riddled throughout the whole game, and funny thing is DR only makes botting worse, Anet is too dumb to see this.

New guild looking for members of any level interested in any aspect of PvE. We would like to be the biggest guild on Yaks in the future doing every dungeon/PvE related content. We are also working on some upgrades, but in the future we would like to get all upgrades. We are also looking for some officer positions so if you are interested in being an officer, bring that up in your PM and we will talk about it. pst me on the forums here with your ingame name and then I will invite you to the guild later today [ reinstalling game atm- will take a few hours so I can’t log in right now]

It’s a multifaceted issue, but most of it is because of DR. Why would I spend any of my time in a zone when I get penalized for it? I would rather spend my time in fractals or running a dungeon. Drop rates are also horrible, which is another major factor driving people away from these zones. If it doesn’t get fixed you can imagine a lot of players quitting in the next few months. ANet is just ridiculous, look at some of the wvw achievements/titles that take like 20 years of gameplay to get. I could go much farther into depth but then the message would probably be lost in a wall of text, plus there is a huge sticky about this issue, which by the way is on 18 pages and still hasn’t been resolved. Also with the new update coming they are adding new ways to get armor and stuff like that, but are still ignoring the issue regarding broken drop tables and stupid DR that does nothing to fight against bots. Good job ANet!

I’ve had horrible luck with drops. I have full MF gear, omnombars, guild banner, magic find consumable, and I get maybe 1 rare out of 2-3 hours of farming. I’ve also done the dragons plenty of times, and I think maybe one time I got a rare, and that was before November. I’m quitting this game anyway as I’m sure many others have and will quit. ANet is taking the completely wrong approach and after months of people complaining nothing has been done and nothing will probably be changed. I played GW1 for years and years and had a great time playing it, but this game is completely different and it’s not as fun as GW1. ANet’s answer to bots is DR but what these idiots don’t realize is that bots don’t even farm for loot like that because there are much more profitable ways of making money and destroying the game economy, for example teleport hacks and what not. There are tons of hacks out there for this game and instead of trying to patch up the issues they are punishing casual players and pretty much forcing you to no life just to have some gold. Let me give you a hint ANet since your dev team is too stupid to figure it out. You have issues with memory, that’s why people can teleport anywhere on the map they chose, they can noclip, speedhack, and all sorts of other things. So yeah instead of fixing the game properly they take the easy way out and implement DR in an attempt to curb bots, but that’s not even botters primary concern, instead legit and casual players are getting less drops, but as I stated before it doesn’t matter. I can create an alt, get him to level 2 complete a quest to get karma mining picks and then telehack to southsun and farm all the ori I want. In the end it makes no difference to me, I’m waiting for ESO to come out because ANet completely ruined this game and the gaming experience. I don’t know about you lot but it pisses me off that we have a 18 page thread about the horrible loot drops and nothing has been resolved. Sit back casuals, ANet doesn’t care about you, and if they say they do they are blatantly lieing. Sorry if my post is jumping from one place to another, I’m a little tired and kitten off.

PS
FIX THE INSECURE MEMORY ISSUES AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SO MANY BOT PROBLEMS
Before anyone says I don’t know what I’m talking about, I have very good understand of how memory works [thanks for programming skills] and how programs allocate memory for usage, with GW2 the hacks tap into this memory pool and abuse it.