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I was able to play a little today after having been busy for a few days.
What I saw was heartbreaking. I couldn’t even bring myself to stick through it. The state of Kaineng is even worse than ever now. Most of our regulars who were doing WvW have thrown in the towel. I thought it was a little silly that they were willing to let Godsword and Longview go just to keep with Cliffside, which they also lost. After seeing the number of Kainengs actually in the game, it’s no wonder.
I really wanted to like WvW. It’s a great concept. But on Kaineng, that concept is a nightmare. I’m just burnt out already on it. Because we’re outnumbered, we’re not able to get as many rewards. We’re spending considerably more on repairs than anyone else. We’re at the mercy of NSP, DR, or FC.
With no response from Anet about this, I don’t think that anything will be done. The hope that people transfer isn’t enough. We’ve gotten some great people, like Fubuki, but we’ve lost some great ones in the process of waiting, too.
Won’t work.
NA Server takes everything during the day. Outnumbers the EU server.
EU Server takes everything during the night. Outnumbers the NA server.
Kaden, I believe that Anet’s goal is to have some sort of balance in WvW, so the match ups will be competitive. If this were not true, there would not be constant shuffling of the servers.
I’ve been on both sides of the issue. Recently I logged onto WvW only to find one server had every map controlled. There is no compelling reason to play when all your spawn points are camped by 50 players of the dominate server.
Im currently on Ferguson’s Crossing, so I know the frustration you guys felt. If it is any solace, we got clobbered the next server match- up.
FC does not have a large population either. When it is matched up against a high pop server, it struggles too.
Unfortunately the balance you speak of isn’t available when free server transfers at this time allow people to stack the deck 2 servers versus 1. This is happening as we speak.
Sad, but true. Really, though, what other option do we have to take? It’s either find a server you can actually be rewarded with or pretty much stick it out with the constant losses. Oh, then there’s that queue thing.
Hey you guys are holding more than usual right now, I just noticed our point tally drop a bit and when I checked it was bc Kaineng was taking some stuff. You have +110 right now
So far, anyway. The Oni crew is hard at work! However, I’m wore out from the battles earlier.
Well, Velron, looks like we’ve been set in a familiar matchup again….
Same old, same old. I stuck it out for quite a while. Even ran with a small ops team that was causing some problems for your team earlier tonight. Didn’t take long for the numbers game to put a stop to that.
/facepalm
All points on a triangle are between the other two.
sigh
You’ll want to look at the map again and factor in Mist.
Or you can transfer servers while it’s still free
Err, that’s what I meant. Different game other than Kaineng vs Denovah.
Right now, Kaineng is once again in last place. There’s maybe 7-10 people on. NSP is controlling roughly 99% of the map. NSP is even outnumbering us. It’s THAT bad.
Yeah, that’s right. Kaineng is bottom of the barrel. Screwed. We can’t win. Period.
Thus, I’m about ready to just give it up and find a different game.
I wouldn’t be sure that it’s an alliance. Both opponents are red to them, it’s hard to tell who is who when you’re in the middle of combat.
From experience, if your server is a pushover, they both just want your cake and will mow you and the other server down to get it.
Our garrison has seen more Ferguson’s Crossing and Denovah’s Rest than it’s actually seen Kainengs (us) in it. Sad, but true.
Sorry about that. Really bad mismatch for a couple of rounds. Ferg and Kaineng were paired up a lot.
We had about 5 seconds of thinking “Are Fergies and Denos allied up against us?”. It was quickly put to rest when you both started a massive zerg war in our garrison. We didn’t stand a chance. Even my latency suffered.
What it comes down to is that through all the cycles so far, we’re stuck in-between our opponents. Getting hit from both sides. It’s not an alliance, it’s just our bad luck….or is the placement not random? No idea.
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far as i remember WvW is not designed to be balanced, you want balance you go sPvP.
its also not that you didnt have enough players because that happens at different times on ALL servers, if i connect in the morning i get, like you would have, a massive buff i think its actually called “outmanned” which gives some hefty buffing to you server.when we have alot of ppl online we tend to get a push when ppl are co-ordinated but during certain times its quiet and we get pushed, like most battles there is never a time when you are always at your best, which is why the battles last for so long vs a match based system.
and its not really in the control of the devs to have foresight over how many ppl wake up and go WvW vs doing PvE.
tbh it just sounds like you got beat and need to complain.
but bear in mind ever server has times where they are thinking omg this is unfair as well.again if you want PvP with proper structure go sPvP. WvW is a sporatic uncontrolled enviroment with which to wage war, be it fair or not, because life and real wars are not always fair.
Wow. Just wow. Your post is just so useful.
If I were any more sarcastic right now, I’d have to charge you hourly for it.
There may be no real answer to this problem. I think that repairs should remain, but that should only be necessary after a good number of deaths, not just one.
I wouldn’t be sure that it’s an alliance. Both opponents are red to them, it’s hard to tell who is who when you’re in the middle of combat.
From experience, if your server is a pushover, they both just want your cake and will mow you and the other server down to get it.
Our garrison has seen more Ferguson’s Crossing and Denovah’s Rest than it’s actually seen Kainengs (us) in it. Sad, but true.
I don’t know that we have Oceanic rep, but we do have people like me, who will try and try and try, and sometimes forget to sleep.
I was aiding a defense against DR earlier. I’d often find myself alone because my team kept running away.
I think we lost a few of those leaders that led that big epic standoff we tried to pull off last week. They’re either burnt by the imbalance or have just transferred. I’m still there, swinging away at a sea of red…..for about 5 seconds before I’m standing in front the repair NPC, watching myself go broke.
Kaineng had a queue once….the wait was like 30 seconds. Never happened again since.
I think NSP is sleeping. I tried to hunt them down earlier. Not one in sight.
While on the other hand, we’re losing players on our server due to the imbalance. Basically, we got a late start and can’t get off the ground now.
I mean, can you blame them? The choices are “pay a lot of repair costs and deteriorating morale” or “suffer a queue and reap rewards”.
It would be nice to have more participation within the WvW. Kaineng gained a couple of guilds for WvW as well (like Oni and Guru), but the numbers are killing us. Hard to recruit what simply isn’t there, or won’t be there for very long given the current circumstances.
During the whole Fergies and Denovahs battle, we’d put up a fight, but in the end, just got overwhelmed from both sides. And yeah, there were ALWAYS a lot of Fergies on.
or WWvW, as we might as well have called the previous cycle on Kaineng.
For the first “cycle”, our lower population server ended up against two higher population servers: Ferguson’s Crossing and Denovah’s Rest. As if that weren’t bad enough, we were stuck on the lands BETWEEN them. Any chance to compete was futile, as not only could we not pull the numbers needed to defend and attack, we couldn’t pull the numbers to defend against both opponents, let alone one. That’s fine. Eventually, the cycle is supposed to pit us up against opponents more evenly matched to us, right?
Sure. We got a new opponent: Northern Shiverpeaks, which as I understand, is also low pop. But guess what? We’re matched up with the outnumbering Denovah’s Peak…AGAIN. Not only that, but we stuck in between our opponents…AGAIN. As I speak, we’re able to capture one node for a total of 2 minutes before it’s zerged out from underneath us. Okay then, we’ll just take the fight to Shiverpeaks’ land and let Denovah’s have ours. Oh but no, Denovah has enough numbers to attack Shiverpeaks’, too. Must be nice. I might add, Shiverpeaks is nowhere to be found. I can only assume they’re in the same situation as us, but apparently faring slightly better.
So, tell me, ArenaNet. Is this working as intended? I don’t mind a challenge and all, but this is no challenge, we stand absolutely zero chance against a server that outnumbers us 3-to-1. When do those of us on Kaineng (and possibly Shiverpeaks) get to finally ENJOY WvWvW like most of the other servers get to? Can we get an immediate fix to what is obviously a broken system? Or is this simply just not a concern and I need to worsen the problem by transferring to one of the higher pop servers?