Guild Wars 2

Nebilim.5127:

People are talking like that the other mats to make a legendary is so easy to get. You still need 120 gold and about 1 million karma, plus everything else and maybe even lodestones which is equally expensive of a precursor. Even if arenanet decided to give precursors like candy to people, grinding for all the rest takes a long kitten time.

I’m very happy that they decided to address the precursors, even if they decide to add an absurd recipe to make them, it is still better than playing lottery on the forge.

Right on! I just need to do some dungeons (have 220 tokens), and today I was lucky enough to find people willing to do TA exp path 2. The dungeon hill feels like the toughest one to climb since you never know what group you may get. It’s been great so far, but I’ve heard some stories, and sometimes fear losing a connection and resetting the dungeon =( Also, with tunnel vision and the wacky camera it’s sometimes hard to see downed players, then my, “Oh no! I’ll look like a jerk if I don’t rez this guy!” instinct kicks in.

ChairGraveyard.2967:

Pistol.6159:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don’t make it too easy. I like the extreme challenge.

Grinding isn’t a challenge.

It challenges my patience.

Pistol.6159:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don’t make it too easy. I like the extreme challenge.

extreme challange? theres not a single challange involved

Imo:
- give account bound precursor of ones choice on personal story completion. (collapsing luck based rich people)
- lodestone drop chance of world chests or jumping puzzle chests, or something equally skill demanding, randomizing which one u get and how many.
- keep all else as is or really close to it.

Unreachable: Bad.
Easily reachable: Even worse.
Try to keep it somewhere in the middle, will you?

Still cannot iterate enough how badly Lodestones – particularly Charged – needs fixing. Right now they’re more expensive than most precursors.

YES finaly some good news !!!

“I’ve sold my precursor for 66g, sucks that they’re worth over 400+ now”
“I had no chance to exploit myself a precursor, now I have to farm like mad towards it”
“I bought my precursor for 300+, sucks that it will be easier to obtain”

sounds familiar?
That’s how it is, we all learned to swallow it up.
Whatever will come, 1 half will rage and the other will be pleased.

Wait patiently for the change, accept it since you got no choice and move on.

Alchemist.3692:

neoxide.7320:

swiftpaw.6397:

neoxide.7320:

I spent 350g on my precursor last week, would suck if they became freebies next update.

They’re a little rarer than most would like but their price is due to the high demand for legendaries. If they nerf precursors it would really be a slap in the face to anyone who worked to get a precursor the hard way when compared to those who sat and cried until it was made easier.

It’s a slap in the face to me that you got your precursor at 350 but I have to pay 400 now and possibly even higher in a month’s time. imo they need to add an NPC that just sells it outright at 350.

That’s called supply and demand as I said in my last post. You can’t expect time to lower prices alone, and you can’t expect to get the same priced precursor as the guy before you. Demand is still high for precursors and when supply of them decreases, price increases.

I wouldn’t care if the price of precursors dropped naturally over time as the demand dropped, however, I do have a problem with ANET artificially adjusting precursors to make them “more available” without compensating those of us who obtained one when it was “less available”.

In other words, give me my 350g back and I will gladly re-obtain Dawn the easier way.

You have no idea if this is “easier” or not. You might end up without a Dawn – permanently.

The phrase that’s being thrown around is they will be making them “more available, more reachable” which to me translates to easier. The only guaranteed way to get a demanded precursor is to fork over large sums of money. If they were able to create an alternative to spending hundreds of gold that was equally as difficult, people would still complain and this announcement would be pointless.

What alternative precursor method could they possibly implement that would both

A) Be worth spending 350g to skip

and

B) Be “more available” to the average joe without them coming back to the forums to express how much effort (they think) should put into obtaining a precursor

John Smith.4610:

We’ve received a large amount of feedback about Legendaries becoming unreachable. This is actually a topic we’ve been tracking for quite some time. To ease your minds I am here to say that it’s something we’ve been watching and we’ve been listening to your feedback. You can expect to begin to see changes addressing the issue starting with our next build.

John,

That’s a big slap in the face to people who currently have the precursor(s). As you are aware, there are two ways to get Legendaries; (i) craft it via the Mystic Forge, (ii) buy it off the Trading Post.

I will not speak to the issue regarding obtaining precursor via the Mystic Forge as I have accepted ANET’s method on how to craft it – basically, chance based. However, I want to talk about people who used gold to buy precursor.

I’m not a lucky guy, and I personally know that the house always win. So, I decided to buy it from the Trading Post. It was selling for 400g. A month back, you can get 10g per roughly 1500 Gems. I bought over 750$ of Gem and exchanged it for gold. Bought another 250$ worth of Gem to get crafting materials. In total, I spend 1000$ for my precursor. While I might get flame for spending that much money for gem/gold, this is part of the game mechanic which is intended and encourage as it generate revenue for GW2 to fund future content release and other things such as general expenses.

If the drop rate or method of obtaining precursor is change to make it easier to get (not sure what is intended), this set a precedent that discourage gem buying.

My question to you Peter is will I be refunded for my gem purchases since ANET DIRECTLY change the difficulty of obtaining a precursor thus influencing the selling price of it on the TP? Will there be any consideration given to people who bought gem to buy precursor? As mentioned above, this set a precedent and you can bet I won’t spend another dime on the gem shop.

No average joe should ever be able to get one of these, if you don’t like that either work for it or go cry in a corner and be sad. Lets make it a challenge they say, which I might add will never happen for many reasons (cant be bothered to explain, too many screamers fail to see any argument other then their own in here).

Though I would like to add I bet I see the same faces crying the dungeon is way too hard and that it is IMPOSSIBLE, even though some “legendary” people would probably have made it to the end of this dungeon (makes you wonder if these screamers know the meaning of the word impossible).

I got a simple solution. Stop caring. Its just a legendary. If you really want it to make you feel special go work for it. If you’re an average Joe and the TP is too sophisticated for you and you dont have enough time then give up and give in. Its not for you. Nor are porsches and ferrari’s for blue collar workers. Get my point? Probably not.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

lol at people wanting compensation. Here you were laughing at all the people who gambled 1000g on the MF and lost, but you were all smug because you got your pre-cursor.

Well guess what, you gambled that they wouldn’t become easier to get and YOU lost. Guess you guys know how it feels to the rest of us now.

You could of bought two precursors with 1000g…just saying.

I hope ANET follows the DoA mentality of GW2, similar to the Dungeon mentality of GW2.

To this day Torment weapons remain one of the most prestigious weapons in GW1, and having a similar system for Precursors would work very well.

About My Transactions “I’ve Sold & I’ve Bought”
I want to have option to remove items in “I’ve Sold & I’ve Bought” same in “I’m Selling & I’m Buying”
I hope that my request will be considered.Thank you.

skupuz.6940:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

lol at people wanting compensation. Here you were laughing at all the people who gambled 1000g on the MF and lost, but you were all smug because you got your pre-cursor.

Well guess what, you gambled that they wouldn’t become easier to get and YOU lost. Guess you guys know how it feels to the rest of us now.

You could of bought two precursors with 1000g…just saying.

For some people, saving up a few gold and then spending and repeating that cycle indefinite times easier than saving up a ton of gold and spending it all at once.

And then there’s the Gambler’s Fallacy.

And naturally, once you’ve spent a good portion on the gamble and lost, most people would feel that they need to keep going or else they will have lost to the Forge.

I’m glad a fix is coming, anything to make getting legendaries more achievable without luck or exploit would be a welcome change.

to every single moron saying not to make the pre cursors too easy and they like the challenge, since when is grinding the challenge? the only challenge i came to when grinding was trying not to lose my mind from the absolute boredom.

Volcane Crucio.4723:

No average joe should ever be able to get one of these, if you don’t like that either work for it or go cry in a corner and be sad. Lets make it a challenge they say, which I might add will never happen for many reasons (cant be bothered to explain, too many screamers fail to see any argument other then their own in here).

Though I would like to add I bet I see the same faces crying the dungeon is way too hard and that it is IMPOSSIBLE, even though some “legendary” people would probably have made it to the end of this dungeon (makes you wonder if these screamers know the meaning of the word impossible).

I got a simple solution. Stop caring. Its just a legendary. If you really want it to make you feel special go work for it. If you’re an average Joe and the TP is too sophisticated for you and you dont have enough time then give up and give in. Its not for you. Nor are porsches and ferrari’s for blue collar workers. Get my point? Probably not.

Porsches and ferrari’s are expensive but they’re not legendaries. Weapons like Twilight are legendary but that doesn’t mean they have to be expensive in order to keep their status. You catch my drift? This ain’t capitalist America bro. It’s Tyria, you don’t get to be more priviliged just because you’re the 1%. Anyone should have a chance at becoming a
Legend and gold should not be the main standard as to who is legendary and who isn’t.

Sometimes I wish legendaries would become extremely common just to piss off elitist jerks like you.

See they do care about us.

Archer.6485:

Anyone should have a chance at becoming a
Legend and gold should not be the main standard as to who is legendary and who isn’t.

I’m anyone. I have a legendary.
I didnt exploit, play the tp (im really bad at it), excessivly grind (I’ve never seen diminishing returns) I’m just dedicated and patient. Played the game as intended and found after 700 hours of play I already had 75% of the materials for one.

“Anyone” already has a chance at legendary, though I agree the hit and miss of the forge is probably not the best way precursors should work, it does at least ensure “anyone” can get one, random is random and favors no one in particular.

I do however absolutely agree with your statement that Gold should not be the deciding factor.

With “prestige” tier3 armor set at 119g and the base gold costs for the legendary weapon (120g recipe+runestones) we have an idea of what constitutes anets thoughts on “a lot of money”

The problems we have is:

Gold sellers offering precursors for real life cash. I dearly hope this is something the change addresses.

Early godskull exploiters cornering the market with their personal stash of tens of precursors. I personally feel if the Godskulls had their precursors deleted at the time, we’d have a more stable, more realistic picture of what a precursor is worth on the tp.

My main personal issue with changing the way precursors drop, isnt that they will be too easy for people to obtain, its that certain precursors will be.

I bet no one’s complaining that the Bard is too hard to get rng, or rage is too hard to get rng.
Everyone wants a [Dusk]. Everyone wants a Dawn. or a Lover
If people were happy going for any legendary, they wouldnt be shouting down the door trying to change things, but the fact is theres only 3 or 4 people are going for, and this is reflected in the tp prices.

Legendarys are not in any way unreachable in the precursor markets current state.
The popular Legendarys are.

I bought Rage for 20g off the tp and decided that was what I was going to go for, and if a “better” precursor dropped in the time it took me to gather all the other materials, then I’d craft that instead.
I’ll admit I was lucky, I got dawn and Kudzu drop with 400 rares thrown into the forge and I had to sell dawn to fund kudzu (sunrise would have been cool, but no way could I have got the charged lodestones without tp playing).

So I wasn’t fussy, or particular and my patience paid off.

i think, just like with the hearts, there should be an alternative Way to get these weapons.

Many find it boring to grind for the things you need for a legendary and lets be onest, you will never get them whithout grinding.

So it would be great if players that dont like to do dungeons for example could do more WvW or maybe implement a kind of pirate treasure quest lines where you have to hunt down one clue after another and in the end you get a precusor or something like that.

Just more ways to do it so you arent forced to grind stuff that you hate.

Well i understand why they want to change the way a pre-c can be obtained, but they surely need to compensate the players that worked very hard for one, or especially for the players that have spend real life money on gems to convert them into gold. But guys come on, every MMO with a gold currency have rich and poor ppl, and there is always a luck factor in these games.

Yes there are ppl that buy gold from botters, but is that our problem? The people that spend many hours in it:? No, the bots is A-nets problem. So dont punish the fair players, or as some posts before they say they are gone? Well im gone then too, cause spending hours getting this far and to see young games cry about the difficulty lol.. ive played Metin 2, and ive spend 3 years to get my stuff!

Do what you have to do A-net, but u also have to compensate

Timmy.9371:

to every single moron saying not to make the pre cursors too easy and they like the challenge, since when is grinding the challenge? the only challenge i came to when grinding was trying not to lose my mind from the absolute boredom.

Every mmorpg should have grind involved.

Anyway .. Do you even know what the change is about ? What if its about just making mystic forge drop rate little bit higher, like from 0,01 to 0,1?

People here dont know anything about the changes, I am really looking forward to see how you smile when those changes wont be anything you complained here for.

They cant make precursors account bound, because they are players having 2-3 precursor on auction house.

Or they can is give you another alternative of getting precursos. But thats gonna be grind anyway. Even if it was 1000 tokens from every dungeon + dungeon master, etc etc. There will always be complaining..

People QQ too much because they nerd like to spend a kitten lot of time repeating stuff to make gold, seriously?

YES, DO CHANGE the way you can get precursors, DO NOT make them gold-based, it don’t matter if it’ll take 1-year long.

And yeah, awesome news!

skupuz.6940:

John Smith.4610:

We’ve received a large amount of feedback about Legendaries becoming unreachable. This is actually a topic we’ve been tracking for quite some time. To ease your minds I am here to say that it’s something we’ve been watching and we’ve been listening to your feedback. You can expect to begin to see changes addressing the issue starting with our next build.

John,

That’s a big slap in the face to people who currently have the precursor(s). As you are aware, there are two ways to get Legendaries; (i) craft it via the Mystic Forge, (ii) buy it off the Trading Post.

I will not speak to the issue regarding obtaining precursor via the Mystic Forge as I have accepted ANET’s method on how to craft it – basically, chance based. However, I want to talk about people who used gold to buy precursor.

I’m not a lucky guy, and I personally know that the house always win. So, I decided to buy it from the Trading Post. It was selling for 400g. A month back, you can get 10g per roughly 1500 Gems. I bought over 750$ of Gem and exchanged it for gold. Bought another 250$ worth of Gem to get crafting materials. In total, I spend 1000$ for my precursor. While I might get flame for spending that much money for gem/gold, this is part of the game mechanic which is intended and encourage as it generate revenue for GW2 to fund future content release and other things such as general expenses.

If the drop rate or method of obtaining precursor is change to make it easier to get (not sure what is intended), this set a precedent that discourage gem buying.

My question to you Peter is will I be refunded for my gem purchases since ANET DIRECTLY change the difficulty of obtaining a precursor thus influencing the selling price of it on the TP? Will there be any consideration given to people who bought gem to buy precursor? As mentioned above, this set a precedent and you can bet I won’t spend another dime on the gem shop.

$1000 you kitten me.

I wouldnt be too hopeful about changes to precursor drops. Just look at Anet history. People cried about bltc chests during halloween. they just added more gambling with a random mystic forge recipe.

pchow.1954:

I wouldnt be too hopeful about changes to precursor drops. Just look at Anet history. People cried about bltc chests during halloween. they just added more gambling with a random mystic forge recipe.

And I honestly found it fair.

But seriously, spending $1000 for a skin? I’m sure ANet don’t intend in making people spend that much money for legendaries, if a lot of people buy some cheap cosmetic stuff then that’s the way to go. The Gem→Gold is the worst thing ever.

Safari.3021:

Archer.6485:

Anyone should have a chance at becoming a
Legend and gold should not be the main standard as to who is legendary and who isn’t.

I’m anyone. I have a legendary.
I didnt exploit, play the tp (im really bad at it), excessivly grind (I’ve never seen diminishing returns) I’m just dedicated and patient. Played the game as intended and found after 700 hours of play I already had 75% of the materials for one.

“Anyone” already has a chance at legendary, though I agree the hit and miss of the forge is probably not the best way precursors should work, it does at least ensure “anyone” can get one, random is random and favors no one in particular.

I do however absolutely agree with your statement that Gold should not be the deciding factor.

With “prestige” tier3 armor set at 119g and the base gold costs for the legendary weapon (120g recipe+runestones) we have an idea of what constitutes anets thoughts on “a lot of money”

The problems we have is:

Gold sellers offering precursors for real life cash. I dearly hope this is something the change addresses.

Early godskull exploiters cornering the market with their personal stash of tens of precursors. I personally feel if the Godskulls had their precursors deleted at the time, we’d have a more stable, more realistic picture of what a precursor is worth on the tp.

My main personal issue with changing the way precursors drop, isnt that they will be too easy for people to obtain, its that certain precursors will be.

I bet no one’s complaining that the Bard is too hard to get rng, or rage is too hard to get rng.
Everyone wants a [Dusk]. Everyone wants a Dawn. or a Lover
If people were happy going for any legendary, they wouldnt be shouting down the door trying to change things, but the fact is theres only 3 or 4 people are going for, and this is reflected in the tp prices.

Legendarys are not in any way unreachable in the precursor markets current state.
The popular Legendarys are.

I bought Rage for 20g off the tp and decided that was what I was going to go for, and if a “better” precursor dropped in the time it took me to gather all the other materials, then I’d craft that instead.
I’ll admit I was lucky, I got dawn and Kudzu drop with 400 rares thrown into the forge and I had to sell dawn to fund kudzu (sunrise would have been cool, but no way could I have got the charged lodestones without tp playing).

So I wasn’t fussy, or particular and my patience paid off.

It seems our thoughts on this are quite similar. The hit and miss of the MF is a TERRIBLE way to make precursors work. I do believe that precursors (the popular ones, yes) are the only thing that prevent anyone from obtaining legendaries. While technically randomness doesn’t favor anyone, it yields higher results for some people. If you got Kudzu AND Dawn than you were way luckier than most. And when I say “anyone” I mean anyone who commits himself to do it, not anyone who gets lucky on the MF.

Every other part of the grind can stay for all I care, even the lodestones if necessary. It’s just that kitten precursor… Yes the popular one. Even if it’s a matter of only a few popular precursor, it’s still an issue that I hope gets resolved.

Gratz on your legendary though.

Archer.6485:

Volcane Crucio.4723:

No average joe should ever be able to get one of these, if you don’t like that either work for it or go cry in a corner and be sad. Lets make it a challenge they say, which I might add will never happen for many reasons (cant be bothered to explain, too many screamers fail to see any argument other then their own in here).

Though I would like to add I bet I see the same faces crying the dungeon is way too hard and that it is IMPOSSIBLE, even though some “legendary” people would probably have made it to the end of this dungeon (makes you wonder if these screamers know the meaning of the word impossible).

I got a simple solution. Stop caring. Its just a legendary. If you really want it to make you feel special go work for it. If you’re an average Joe and the TP is too sophisticated for you and you dont have enough time then give up and give in. Its not for you. Nor are porsches and ferrari’s for blue collar workers. Get my point? Probably not.

Porsches and ferrari’s are expensive but they’re not legendaries. Weapons like Twilight are legendary but that doesn’t mean they have to be expensive in order to keep their status. You catch my drift? This ain’t capitalist America bro. It’s Tyria, you don’t get to be more priviliged just because you’re the 1%. Anyone should have a chance at becoming a
Legend and gold should not be the main standard as to who is legendary and who isn’t.

Sometimes I wish legendaries would become extremely common just to piss off elitist jerks like you.

Indeed anyone should be able to get one, and anyone can get one. You’re one that left-wingers side that spits upon those that did get one. In your eyes they either exploited, played the TP or were extremely lucky. What you fail to see is that there are plenty of people (had their says in this topic) that got one by hard work. And (newsflash) we’re only 2 months in the game. Yet you are here crying you are unable to (ever) get one because its all too kitten expensive.

So instead of working your kitten of like they did you’re the one leading this scream front with your rage and your meaningless arguments. I sincerely hope you never get one, even after any changes. You sir, simply don’t deserve one.

P.S where did I state in my posts that I’m part of that 1%? Just because I strongly disagree with you I must have one, makes sense /endsarcasm. Shows your way of thinking though.

Why do you people think that making precursors cheap makes legendaries less legendary? You guys do know that there are other weapons then Legend, Dawn and Dust right? There are 5-6 precursors that can be bought for like 10g.

Are those less “Legendary” then the other ones?

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Are those less “Legendary” then the other ones?

Yes, of course. They’re 200g easier to get, thus less prestigious.

Volcane Crucio.4723:

Indeed anyone should be able to get one, and anyone can get one. You’re one that left-wingers side that spits upon those that did get one. In your eyes they either exploited, played the TP or were extremely lucky. What you fail to see is that there are plenty of people (had their says in this topic) that got one by hard work. And (newsflash) we’re only 2 months in the game. Yet you are here crying you are unable to (ever) get one because its all too kitten expensive.

So instead of working your kitten of like they did you’re the one leading this scream front with your rage and your meaningless arguments. I sincerely hope you never get one, even after any changes. You sir, simply don’t deserve one.

P.S where did I state in my posts that I’m part of that 1%? Just because I strongly disagree with you I must have one, makes sense /endsarcasm. Shows your way of thinking though.

I don’t spit on anyone who got their legendaries and I don’t give a kitten if you have one either because I’m arguing your point not your personal situation. I’m not sure what to argue now since you just made up random stuff about me that aren’t even true. I don’t care if I don’t have one after two months. This isn’t about momentary situations, I’m looking at the big picture.

Maybe if you stopped being an idiot for a second you could realize what we’re even arguing about. But I guess it’s just easier to call us lazy and say we’re not willing to work for anything.

Lets face it. If your making enough gold to get the precursor then you have likely spent alot of time studying , practicing, and perfecting your strategy to obtain the gold. Then once you figured it out, you grinded it over and over and over till finally you had enough gold…….. If you could obtain the amount of gold by doing stuff like WvW and Dungeons then it would be ok, but only way to get that much is to make a job out of the game.

PS : I want to see my name and title over my head … and no its not cause i dont know my toons name……

Be fair if they make the precursor recipe 300-400G lol

I mean the idiots who want precursor to have recipe’s biggest concern is the RNG system. Well give them a stable recipe but make it 400g lol, Anet would already satisfy half of their concerns. If they were actually reasonable they wouldn’t complain about that after. By the current item standards A precursor at 300g-400g is pretty reasonable, i mean come on lodestones and some T6 mats cost loads of gold lol

November’s monthly achievement involves WvW kills and Dungeon Runs, an obvious attempt to remind all that the “end game” extends past Cursed Shore. It would expect a revamped Precursor process/questline to do a similar thing, and not just be a gold equivalent (which it currently is with TP pricing of the popular ones at 300ish gold.)

A good way to autobalance things is to have a slow but sure way and a way that may be way faster, but it’s really hard. Randomness has nothing to do with difficulty, so that’ll have to be a third, optional way for those who feel lucky.

Listen, making the precursor easier to obtain doesn’t remove the amount of grinding you will have to do to make it into a Legendary. So what if nearly all the people have one? They still have to do the biggest part of the grind to make it into a Legendary; which most people refuse to even do and a lot of people give up on long before they even get to the part of actually needing the precursor.

As it is, NONE of the Legendaries are Legendary in status… the vast majority of players look at people with a Legendary and actually mock them behind their back about how they had their guild buy/help get the mats or they succumbed to RMT/Exploit and the actual accomplishment of getting the Legendary isn’t even that great because the biggest part of the grind is the mats (Even more so than the Karma grind.) This sucks because even if you get the thing by yourself… haters are gonna hate on it (For a good reason.) because more than half the “Grind” is about how much money you have, not how great your accomplishments are.

And for those claiming it is fine, wake the h*** up… these aren’t Legendaries right now; they are jokes that require a lot of money that look cool. Works great if you are a troll, but the fact we saw Legendaries in less than a month means it is broken right now. Making the precursor easier to obtain is only but a fraction of the issue, but now it is too late to make it into something worth bragging about because now you have people who have already grinded most the mats (Myself included) and most of them are going to be up in arms against any changes.

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

kokiman.2364:

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

Ye make everything easyer so I can watch series and movies in Arah meanwhile doing lupicus afk.

Also the new Elder scrolls mmopg is one the way so I would like to have 4-6 legendaries in next half year.

Thanks … That would be really smart thing to do .. NOT

Kelvingts.2035:

Be fair if they make the precursor recipe 300-400G lol

I mean the idiots who want precursor to have recipe’s biggest concern is the RNG system. Well give them a stable recipe but make it 400g lol, Anet would already satisfy half of their concerns. If they were actually reasonable they wouldn’t complain about that after. By the current item standards A precursor at 300g-400g is pretty reasonable, i mean come on lodestones and some T6 mats cost loads of gold lol

Make the recipes 350G per and call it a day. If you want a legendary, you either grind it or buy Gem to get gold.

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

Ye make everything easyer so I can watch series and movies in Arah meanwhile doing lupicus afk.

Also the new Elder scrolls mmopg is one the way so I would like to have 4-6 legendaries in next half year.

Thanks … That would be really smart thing to do .. NOT

What’s your problem? Do you hate fun?

kokiman.2364:

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

Ye make everything easyer so I can watch series and movies in Arah meanwhile doing lupicus afk.

Also the new Elder scrolls mmopg is one the way so I would like to have 4-6 legendaries in next half year.

Thanks … That would be really smart thing to do .. NOT

What’s your problem? Do you hate fun?

No, but I hate something else, but I wont even say what it is … Try to guess.

Arah is hardest expo out there, get yourself full exotic gear (not berserker), learn your class, learn the tactics and you may be able to complete it. Arah is easy as it is and another thousands of players agree with me, who thinks arah is really hard and it should be nerfed, legendaries are really not their thing

To by honest, you made my day with your post. I was reading it over and over for a few minutes and yet, I still cant decide if it is troll post or serious one.

I believe you dont even aim for legendary weapon, or do you? So I dont get why you even post here such a nonsence.

Guys, you should check this one out: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/72453-world-first-mjolnir-ele-hammer/
Hammer that cost about 1000g to craft Dont think that precursor for 300g is that much now ey ?

Guys, I think you’re taking this the wrong way. They’re not looking to make Legendaries easier to acquire overall; they’re just looking to shift the focus from such a gold-heavy approach to something requiring more skill-based actions. Right now, the gold required DOES make these very hard to get, but ONLY FOR SOME PEOPLE. For your average player, the amount of gold required (and the rate of increase in those prices) means that they, no matter how skilled, will probably never attain a legendary unless something is done. Legendaries were never meant to be a badge of how good you were at playing the market, which they have become; for those who jumped on TP and manipulated it immediately, hoarded precursors with the bugged recipes, etc, acquiring a Legendary ISN’T difficult, it’s laughably easy. I know a player who is very good at playing the market, and has acquired thousands of gold, which he used to make a legendary very easily in a few days (and sold on eBay, apparently). That doesn’t seem to fit with the idea Anet had for Legendaries; they’re supposed to be acquired through epic feats (like the map completion required for the gifts of exploration, I agree with the people citing that as an effective part of the process), not just something for the top .1% to BUY off eBay or the TP. Shifting a lot of the gold aspects of the legendary process into achievement/skill related challenges would solve that issue, and if it leads to poorer players having more legendaries and richer players having to actually work in-game for them, I don’t see how that’s a problem. Please, before you bash this system, try to consider the integrity of the system as a whole; this is Guild Wars 2, not Gold Wars 2.

1. They said they’ll look into the prices. Nothing said it’ll be entirely shifted to skill-based.

2. I wish I knew that complaining in forums could change a game. All the time people have committed to posts in these complain-rums could have actually spent time working towards their precursor.

3. Make the precursors cost 1000 lodestones for these new peeps. Hey, at least you have better chances.

ChairGraveyard.2967:

Pistol.6159:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don’t make it too easy. I like the extreme challenge.

Grinding isn’t a challenge.

You should’ve picked up a different game if you didn’t think grinding was anywhere present in this game. Fighters maybe? Starcraft 2? League? Seriously, people who want an end-game in an MMO to be a challenge just wants it their way and buy the game before actually reading it beforehand. Like, I’m going to play Halo 4 and QQ because it’s not like Call of Duty and spend all my time complaining so they’ll release a new game like CoD 4. I really wish now gw2 didn’t update content because people abuse their generosity thus far. MMOs are supposed to have a grind. I also wouldn’t be too surprised to see the dungeon forums skyrocket in complaints if precursors required the dungeon master achievement now or tokens in general. QQ everywhere.

And let’s face it, for you guys there that want a “challenge” for the legendary, you don’t really care about the challenge part, you just want to skin; because by all means you CAN STILL CHALLENGE YOURSELF without getting a legendary. It shouldn’t be a byproduct of it. I doubt 90% of the people who get the precursor or legendary now are gonna be like “I conquered balh blah blah! Hear me roar!” Nah. You are just gonna wear it all the time and complain about how hard other parts of the game are and that they NEED more content asap cause its getting boring fast.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

1. They said they’ll look into the prices. Nothing said it’ll be entirely shifted to skill-based.

2. I wish I knew that complaining in forums could change a game. All the time people have committed to posts in these complain-rums could have actually spent time working towards their precursor.

3. Make the precursors cost 1000 lodestones for these new peeps. Hey, at least you have better chances.

Totally agree with Arch TheFallen

I really doubt they will add any skill involving way of obtaining precursos so I can see how disspointed you guys are going to be. i think it will be something like 200 this, 200 that, 200 this and you have your precursor. But it will still cost about 200-300g in gold.

I dont see the difference between grinding 1000+ dungeon tokens and grinding golds. Still grind and people will complain anyways.

Grind is big part of MMORPG. And whoever really hates pve grind, should avoid mmorpgs.

Devs has 2 choices. Give us hard challenging content, that takes months, years to complete or content that can be completed in month, even by bad and casual players, like in World of Warcraft. If its going to be second one, Its not game for someone like me then.

Dogblaster.6713:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

1. They said they’ll look into the prices. Nothing said it’ll be entirely shifted to skill-based.

2. I wish I knew that complaining in forums could change a game. All the time people have committed to posts in these complain-rums could have actually spent time working towards their precursor.

3. Make the precursors cost 1000 lodestones for these new peeps. Hey, at least you have better chances.

Totally agree with Arch TheFallen

I really doubt they will add any skill involving way of obtaining precursos so I can see how disspointed you guys are going to be. i think it will be something like 200 this, 200 that, 200 this and you have your precursor. But it will still cost about 200-300g in gold.

I dont see the difference between grinding 1000+ dungeon tokens and grinding golds. Still grind and people will complain anyways.

Grind is big part of MMORPG. And whoever really hates pve grind, should avoid mmorpgs.

My Guess-

They up the RNG for the drop off the Mystic forge by like 0.5% or something.
-They can say they did something
The people who already have them don’t have a seizure because other people now have a chance, but it’s still slim and hopeless.
-Other people feel like they have a better chance.

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

Ye make everything easyer so I can watch series and movies in Arah meanwhile doing lupicus afk.

Also the new Elder scrolls mmopg is one the way so I would like to have 4-6 legendaries in next half year.

Thanks … That would be really smart thing to do .. NOT

What’s your problem? Do you hate fun?

No, but I hate something else, but I wont even say what it is … Try to guess.

Arah is hardest expo out there, get yourself full exotic gear (not berserker), learn your class, learn the tactics and you may be able to complete it. Arah is easy as it is and another thousands of players agree with me, who thinks arah is really hard and it should be nerfed, legendaries are really not their thing

To by honest, you made my day with your post. I was reading it over and over for a few minutes and yet, I still cant decide if it is troll post or serious one.

I believe you dont even aim for legendary weapon, or do you? So I dont get why you even post here such a nonsence.

Guys, you should check this one out: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/72453-world-first-mjolnir-ele-hammer/
Hammer that cost about 1000g to craft Dont think that precursor for 300g is that much now ey ?

Hell yeah I do aim for a legendary because I payed money for the game so I should be able to enjoy everything the game offers

kokiman.2364:

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Dogblaster.6713:

kokiman.2364:

Finally! Hopefully you will also make those stupid dungeons easier >.< I reached level 80 yesterday was full blue geared and died constantly in Arah, this is NOT fun! Make the dungeons easier please and the recipes in the mystic forge for the nice skins should be cheaper!

Ye make everything easyer so I can watch series and movies in Arah meanwhile doing lupicus afk.

Also the new Elder scrolls mmopg is one the way so I would like to have 4-6 legendaries in next half year.

Thanks … That would be really smart thing to do .. NOT

What’s your problem? Do you hate fun?

No, but I hate something else, but I wont even say what it is … Try to guess.

Arah is hardest expo out there, get yourself full exotic gear (not berserker), learn your class, learn the tactics and you may be able to complete it. Arah is easy as it is and another thousands of players agree with me, who thinks arah is really hard and it should be nerfed, legendaries are really not their thing

To by honest, you made my day with your post. I was reading it over and over for a few minutes and yet, I still cant decide if it is troll post or serious one.

I believe you dont even aim for legendary weapon, or do you? So I dont get why you even post here such a nonsence.

Guys, you should check this one out: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/72453-world-first-mjolnir-ele-hammer/
Hammer that cost about 1000g to craft Dont think that precursor for 300g is that much now ey ?

Hell yeah I do aim for a legendary because I payed money for the game so I should be able to enjoy everything the game offers

You are going to be really dissapointed. By your posts I assume you are casual player, if I am right. The legendary weapons will have only less than 5% player population, even Areanet claimed that.

I dont want to be rude or anything. Just saying how it is.

But anyway. I wish you good luck with your legendary but I really dont like how you throwing ideas about nerfing content which you didnt even properly tryed. You level 80 yesterday? I already have 6x 80 lvl … and nearly 900 hours played.

The whole notion here that other people having legendary weapons cheapens the ones other people already has is absurd.

If you have a cool girlfriend or boyfriend, and then someone else gets one, you know what happens? Two people have cool significant others.

I’m working on twilight. So is another guildie of mine. Does both of us having it somehow make having it worse or less cool? No. Besides, people forget, this game is played by millions. No one’s a special snowflake, no matter how much they delude themselves.