They only placed the chests back in the last update because they had left the impression that Scarlet’s Lair was going to remain in the state that it was during Marionette, chests and all. Also, since Escape had been pushed back, players had had a chance to farm the event directly before the patch. ArenaNet put the chests back because they recognized that they hadn’t been clear that they were to be removed even through the Lair would remain.
In this case they were very clear that the vendors would be gone.
Sorry for your luck but if you have been playing GW2 for even just a few months you should know to check in before the end of a living story event to see what happens to event items. The information was out there and it has been for a week or so.
They should not bring back the vendors because it will reinforce bad habits for those that don’t take a minute to follow the changes. What happens if they bring them back for a few days? Then they go away again and a new group of people show up asking to have them brought back again. If you don’t follow what is happening with the living story world then those items must not mean much to you anyway.
so i saved 1900 belongings. and you just REMOVED the merchants? why?
The event is over, they announced the merchants would be removed multiple times over the past 10 days or so, not their fault you didn’t spend your belongings.
“Announced”
Oh, you mean the topic on their announcement section on the forums? Or do you mean one of the many obscured / buried posts? And not, you know, as dialogue from the merchants, as an in-game mail, as an announcement on the launcher’s page. Oh right, silly people don’t realize in order to know about what’s happening in-game, they have to leave the in-game world to browse the forums.
“Excuse me Mr. Ice Cream man, what flavors do you have?”
“Well if you go to our website and check under the menu section…”
Some people are busy playing the game and deserve to have the information conveyed to them in-game. Wouldn’t be hard for an in-game mail to be sent saying “Ohey, these merchants are nearly done collecting belongings.” People on the forums make up a very, very small part of the playerbase.
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Solo roamer, all classes.
Principle is one thing, irking your customers is another. Just put the merchants back in and these guys will shut up.
But they won’t learn anything. If they make a habit of bending backwards for unnecessary reasons like this then the players would just walk all over them.
If the problem is that people won’t learn a certain way, the solution is not to force them to learn through that particular way, but to teach through an alternative.
Use in-game notifications.
A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”
I read it and I’m sorry for your luck but if you don’t know at this point in the game to read up on things before the end of the living story event that is your problem. We are talking about a game where things change rapidly and events come and go. When you are holding onto a lot of event items then perhaps you should take a few minutes to look into what might happen to them before the end of the event. Part of keeping up with the living story is looking at news related to the story. This is nothing new.
Why are you holding onto event items so long anyway instead of spending them? What did you expect to happen?
I still don’t get why the merchants couldn’t be added back. It would reinforce players “bad habits”? By bad habits you mean not looking at the dev posts like a hawk to see if some of your stuff is going to be deleted. Maybe next time it could be announced IN GAME with a mail or something, or like with glory in the launcher. They wouldn’t have to add any more merchants back then.
Oh, and why is sonder the seller trading stuff like candy corn?
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not. I bought that character slot just to see the merchant isn’t there anymore. Naturally i went to check if sonder the seller would still trade them, just like the other living story stuff :/
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
If you frequent the forums and it looks like you do, you might want to consider checking there before an event ends as a just in case or at least post asking about something you have been collecting prior to the event end. This has happened before and will happen again so no one should be surprised. Others have posted asking just that question and were referred to the above info.
Every good teacher knows that to use a teaching method that isn’t working for the target audience is insanity. This is why we have brains – to come up with alternative methods that will work.
I still don’t get why the merchants couldn’t be added back. It would reinforce players “bad habits”? By bad habits you mean not looking at the dev posts like a hawk to see if some of your stuff is going to be deleted. Maybe next time it could be announced IN GAME with a mail or something, or like with glory in the launcher. They wouldn’t have to add any more merchants back then.
Oh, and why is sonder the seller trading stuff like candy corn?
Yes in game would be the best choice but they didn’t and you can’t really change that since it’s come and gone.
Candy corn is a reoccurring collectible, unlike heirlooms and lost belongings which where only available for this living story arc.
Every good teacher knows that to use a teaching method that isn’t working for the target audience is insanity. This is why we have brains – to come up with alternative methods that will work.
Sending everyone a mail in game would be 10000x more efficient than posting to forums
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
Every good teacher knows that to use a teaching method that isn’t working for the target audience is insanity. This is why we have brains – to come up with alternative methods that will work.
Precisely. The fact that this thread and the others exist is sufficient evidence to prove that the notifications were not far-reaching enough. It’s not just a matter of time, it’s also about exposure. Very few people use the forums relative to the size of the entire player base, and relying on word of mouth is a bad idea since it’s unpredictable.
A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”
So they should send out an obtrusive out of character mail ingame, or worse come up with some lore designed mail, each time they want to convey information, or else patch the game, when they can just announce it here. It’s not like Dev messages are obscure. It’s REAL easy to figure out which ones they are, cause it’s all splattered with red.
No, if someone won’t learn a certain way, then they don’t need to learn and they DO need to miss out. Too bad for them.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
Why are fortune scraps still tradable with sonder the seller? explain that.
Because they provide skins. Better answer, because ANet said so, and for this they said No.
bad reason. The skins you can get with those can also be bought from the tp, but also with the account bound non tradable fortune scraps. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON they couldn’t add a function to trade heirlooms and belongings with sonder if you already can do it with fortune scraps.
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
So it took you until patch day to decide?
It took me until the patch day to get the money (i’m 15.) and yes. i decided to spend my money on gw2 instead of something else.
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
So they should send out an obtrusive out of character mail ingame, or worse come up with some lore designed mail, each time they want to convey information, or else patch the game, when they can just announce it here. It’s not like Dev messages are obscure. It’s REAL easy to figure out which ones they are, cause it’s all splattered with red.
No, if someone won’t learn a certain way, then they don’t need to learn and they DO need to miss out. Too bad for them.
Good thing you’re not a teacher, you’d get fired in a second.
A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
None of those things were available with Heirlooms.
So they should send out an obtrusive out of character mail ingame, or worse come up with some lore designed mail, each time they want to convey information, or else patch the game, when they can just announce it here. It’s not like Dev messages are obscure. It’s REAL easy to figure out which ones they are, cause it’s all splattered with red.
No, if someone won’t learn a certain way, then they don’t need to learn and they DO need to miss out. Too bad for them.
Good thing you’re not a teacher, you’d get fired in a second.
Good thing ANet isn’t a school so they don’t have to worry about nonsense like that.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
So it took you until patch day to decide?
It took me until the patch day to get the money (i’m 15.) and yes. i decided to spend my money on gw2 instead of something else.
Well I guess timing was bad for you then and sorry for your luck. Since it took you until patch day to earn the money to get a character expansion it would not have mattered if you knew about not being able to cash in heirlooms in advance anyway would it? You’re 15, life isn’t fair at times. You will get used to it about the age of 35 or so, trust me.
So they should send out an obtrusive out of character mail ingame, or worse come up with some lore designed mail, each time they want to convey information, or else patch the game, when they can just announce it here. It’s not like Dev messages are obscure. It’s REAL easy to figure out which ones they are, cause it’s all splattered with red.
No, if someone won’t learn a certain way, then they don’t need to learn and they DO need to miss out. Too bad for them.
Good thing you’re not a teacher, you’d get fired in a second.
Good thing ANet isn’t a school so they don’t have to worry about nonsense like that.
And fortunately you’re not an ANet employee either, I’d take great pleasure in instigating an uproar if you were.
A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
None of those things were available with Heirlooms.
You could buy alliance supply bags with heirlooms, those award belongings which you could have used to get for example obsidian shards.
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
you got warned and informed not once or twice, you were informed and warned a lot
yet still you didn’t do it.
The item has a rare status now because of it’s limited availability, if all of a sudden it became available again the other players that did put in the time needed to acquire this item would also feel alienated as if their effort is being nullified.
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
None of those things were available with Heirlooms.
You could buy alliance supply bags with heirlooms, those award belongings which you could have used to get for example obsidian shards.
True, but this thread is about Heirlooms, and if everything you wanted was from belongings you would have already spent your Heirlooms on bags. Just like I did.
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
I don’t fault new players for not knowing that. I just don’t think ANet should have to fix it for them just because they don’t.
@justTrogdor I was waiting to buy leveling tomes with them. I did not buy them yet, because i wasn’t sure if i will spend real money to buy a character slot or not.
So what were you going to do with them if you decided not to spend them on tomes?
naturally buy some of the other stuff available, such as obsidian shards
None of those things were available with Heirlooms.
You could buy alliance supply bags with heirlooms, those award belongings which you could have used to get for example obsidian shards.
True, but this thread is about Heirlooms, and if everything you wanted was from belongings you would have already spent your Heirlooms on bags. Just like I did.
I meant belonging merchant. My bad, idk if i’m able to edit a threads name
I speak for myself, not for my server or my guild.
Solo roamer, all classes.
you got warned and informed not once or twice, you were informed and warned a lot
yet still you didn’t do it.
The item has a rare status now because of it’s limited availability, if all of a sudden it became available again the other players that did put in the time needed to acquire this item would also feel alienated as if their effort is being nullified.
Except:
1. Not everyone read the announcement because of its limited exposure
2. This isn’t a rare item, though I get where you’re coming from
I’m just gonna go away before I earn myself another point. >_>
A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
Anyone familiar with the living story knows that it is a good idea to do a search about event items before the event ends. This isn’t something new. For those that don’t, consider it a learning experience. Yes it is kind of odd that part of play is looking at websites for more information but it has been like that for well as long as I have been playing GW2.
Event is about to end > Go to GW2 website/forum > see what happens to event items so I don’t end up with bank slots full of junk.
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
I don’t fault new players for not knowing that. I just don’t think ANet should have to fix it for them just because they don’t.
My point is that in the same amount of time it took them to post it on the forums, they could have posted it on the news feed in the GW2 launcher and would have ensured that every one of their players had the news delivered to them (even if the players chose to ignore it, they couldn’t argue that they weren’t told).
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
I don’t fault new players for not knowing that. I just don’t think ANet should have to fix it for them just because they don’t.
My point is that in the same amount of time it took them to post it on the forums, they could have posted it on the news feed in the GW2 launcher and would have ensured that every one of their players had the news delivered to them (even if the players chose to ignore it, they couldn’t argue that they weren’t told).
It took me until the patch day to get the money (i’m 15.) and yes. i decided to spend my money on gw2 instead of something else.
Money for what? Gems? What does that have to do with your problem of not being able to trade Heirlooms?
He wanted to get the level up item, but didn’t want to if he couldn’t get the money to buy another character slot. He got the money for the character slot and now knows that he wants the level up item that is no longer available.
I would just like to state that the removal of things from the game should always be announced at least a week in advance on the GW2 launcher.
Personally, I check the forums all the time because I know how bad ArenaNet is with announcements, but you can’t fault new players for not knowing that yet.
I don’t fault new players for not knowing that. I just don’t think ANet should have to fix it for them just because they don’t.
My point is that in the same amount of time it took them to post it on the forums, they could have posted it on the news feed in the GW2 launcher and would have ensured that every one of their players had the news delivered to them (even if the players chose to ignore it, they couldn’t argue that they weren’t told).
The news feed on the launcher is the same as the news feed on the main site, which is the same as the news that is RSSed. This is not the sort of information they should be putting there. Sorry that it’s so important to a handful of people, but it’s not actually news.
