Guild Wars 2

soo I played the new fractals(till the new cap 50) and I Need to say old scale 80 was harder one of the big issues is because I got gearchecked at 40 I needed to get 50 ar .. and now I just can faceroll everything because I can tank agony hits from bosses LIKE A BOSSS it just doesn’t matter at all I don’t Need to dodge I have the Feeling my gameplay is getting worse while playing this Content because I don’t have to care or anything..

the mechanics might be cool but too easy compared to what we had on 80 one hit mechanics on bossfights with agony attacks is way harder than some minor Things you can’t make.

Look at it this way a scale 80 bossfight did go longer than 5 mins so not using an ulti actually was np because you played most of the time with ult on cd, doing less dmg (because of no crit / low endurance ) diddn’t matter cause the hp pool was way higher, getting random agony is a joke anyway either you have the gear or you don’t have it. all things that dmgs you over time besides the lvl 43 where you take increased dmg for each hit basicaly are not as hard to handle as the one hits if you missed a dodge on scale 80.

so basicaly what I Play now i one out of maybe 5 gambits I had on me anyway on 80 ..

and yeah since anet isn’t reading it anyway thanks for banning me from the Forums for 10 days because I defend myself against accusations and now I can post every 10 mins really cool…

you really know how you kill opignons if they don’t fit into what you want to hear

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

soo I played the new fractals(till the new cap 50) and I Need to say old scale 80 was harder one of the big issues is because I got gearchecked at 40 I needed to get 50 ar .. and now I just can faceroll everything because I can tank agony hits from bosses LIKE A BOSSS it just doesn’t matter at all I don’t Need to dodge I have the Feeling my gameplay is getting worse while playing this Content because I don’t have to care or anything..

the mechanics might be cool but too easy compared to what we had on 80 one hit mechanics on bossfights with agony attacks is way harder than some minor Things you can’t make.

Look at it this way a scale 80 bossfight did go longer than 5 mins so not using an ulti actually was np because you played most of the time with ult on cd, doing less dmg (because of no crit / low endurance ) diddn’t matter cause the hp pool was way higher, getting random agony is a joke anyway either you have the gear or you don’t have it. all things that dmgs you over time besides the lvl 43 where you take increased dmg for each hit basicaly are not as hard to handle as the one hits if you missed a dodge on scale 80.

so basicaly what I Play now i one out of maybe 5 gambits I had on me anyway on 80 ..

and yeah since anet isn’t reading it anyway thanks for banning me from the Forums for 10 days because I defend myself against accusations and now I can post every 10 mins really cool…

you really know how you kill opignons if they don’t fit into what you want to hear

It was never meant to be equal to the old 80. They didnt really mean for people to be playing those levels (even though you were able to get there) its supposed to be a more interesting 31-50

phys.7689:

It was never meant to be equal to the old 80. They didnt really mean for people to be playing those levels (even though you were able to get there) its supposed to be a more interesting 31-50

And it’s easier than old 31-50.

haviz.1340:

phys.7689:

It was never meant to be equal to the old 80. They didnt really mean for people to be playing those levels (even though you were able to get there) its supposed to be a more interesting 31-50

And it’s easier than old 31-50.

from what i heard thats a matter of opinion. The new instabilities make you alter and adapt your playstyle, the old made you refine it. However i hear the 50 is about the same as the old 50

phys.7689:

from what i heard thats a matter of opinion. The new instabilities make you alter and adapt your playstyle, the old made you refine it. However i hear the 50 is about the same as the old 50

I haven’t altered anything yet. In fact I started to facetank most of the bosses since they no longer one hit me and thanks to the required ar of scale 40 everyone is almost guaranteed to have enough ar to completely forgot about its existance.

haviz.1340:

Maybe because it is easier, they reduced scaling of mobs. Food for the thought.

I am not saying that it isn’t.
I am just wondering aloud if you would have admitted that it was actually harder if that had been the case

They butchered fractals.

lordkrall.7241:

haviz.1340:

Maybe because it is easier, they reduced scaling of mobs. Food for the thought.

I am not saying that it isn’t.
I am just wondering aloud if you would have admitted that it was actually harder if that had been the case

Those who run high level fractals did not do it because it was easy. If it had actually been harder, They would have said so, because it would make their lvl 50 accomplishment in 2 days far more impressive.

You really shouldn’t assume so much about players you don’t actually know…

To those who say they are easier than old 31-50 fractals… it simply isn’t true, sorry. Don’t get me wrong: by no means are they hard (tough the highest i’ve done is 44), but easier as before? Nope.

Before the patch you had roughly the same thing WITHOUT any debuffs. How can having a debuff making it easier than before, no matter how trivial this debuff it is, wether you do less damage or you take more, it is harder. And it is not like you couldn’t just faceroll all the content before…

Tough I have to admit that they still are nothing compared to the old 70+

Marna Nindar.8120:

To those who say they are easier than old 31-50 fractals… it simply isn’t true, sorry. Don’t get me wrong: by no means are they hard (tough the highest i’ve done is 44), but easier as before? Nope.

Before the patch you had roughly the same thing WITHOUT any debuffs. How can having a debuff making it easier than before, no matter how trivial this debuff it is, wether you do less damage or you take more, it is harder. And it is not like you couldn’t just faceroll all the content before…

Tough I have to admit that they still are nothing compared to the old 70+

because I NEEDED to buy new gear with more AR to get past 40 I played my 80s back than with 15-20 ar after that I played with around 20 ar now I Play with 50 ar wich makes me just brain afk tank all agony… for the mistlocks the only one you might have to think a bit is maybe having may at 37 and get it won’t work. and maybe 43 but only if you get like Dredge.. I had aether and asura and stuff and it doesn’t Change anything… for me at least the bossfights I had to dodge or I downed now I was FORCED to buy agony cause of gearcheck now agony is ignorable and Agony > instability

btw ppl can just lvl up to new 80 witchAR at the 40,50,60,70,80 to lvl up get daily and have an easy time since they have no mistlock ability that hinderence em from doing so

I just bump this thread so the dev’s do not frogett to actually respond… they said they’re still collecting Feedback and I don’t want em to forgett about this.

Ahhh and I really don’t get why you don’t reset the wvw ranks for next season.. you seem to give the better or more dedicted wvw Players an Advantage over me who run fractals. How can you not let me start here on equal footage as well?

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ethics.4519:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

JMar.3254:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ethics.4519:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

How about the amount of gems we spent on our fractal weapons and the transmute crystals? How about the weapons we got that aren’t skins (they say it’s a technical issue with these, but they literally could put an npc like the gathering tool one so we could exchange). These are monetary and reward issues. Do we deserve compensation? Or do we not deserve anything at all, according to you?

That tools things is stupid and those people shouldn’t have gotten anything at all. I’m totally on board with that. I really can’t imagine why they gave in to that one at all, let alone is short order. They wanted a tool for each of their characters, so they bought one for each. That was wrong.

They shouldn’t have? That was the only possible outcome, according to some people in this forum.

A coin can only land on heads. Obviously.

Unless we discuss alternate realities of course.

Quantum fizzics ftw.

I’m still very glad that the armor got such a quick and appropriate response, while this issue continues to be in discussion.

Although I would not like to see “Nope, sorry guys, this is in the best interest of the game”, it would still be better than silence.

I can only assume that there is as much debate in meetings as there is on the forums

I sure hope so….

I hope they’re not just in their meetings, laughing at us….

By excess delay of response. It seems yes.

Ethics.4519:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ethics.4519:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

JMar.3254:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Ethics.4519:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

How about the amount of gems we spent on our fractal weapons and the transmute crystals? How about the weapons we got that aren’t skins (they say it’s a technical issue with these, but they literally could put an npc like the gathering tool one so we could exchange). These are monetary and reward issues. Do we deserve compensation? Or do we not deserve anything at all, according to you?

That tools things is stupid and those people shouldn’t have gotten anything at all. I’m totally on board with that. I really can’t imagine why they gave in to that one at all, let alone is short order. They wanted a tool for each of their characters, so they bought one for each. That was wrong.

They shouldn’t have? That was the only possible outcome, according to some people in this forum.

A coin can only land on heads. Obviously.

Unless we discuss alternate realities of course.

Quantum fizzics ftw.

I’m still very glad that the armor got such a quick and appropriate response, while this issue continues to be in discussion.

Although I would not like to see “Nope, sorry guys, this is in the best interest of the game”, it would still be better than silence.

I can only assume that there is as much debate in meetings as there is on the forums

I sure hope so….

I hope they’re not just in their meetings, laughing at us….

By excess delay of response. It seems yes.

:( I got an email today asking for a review of my experience with support. I sent one, pleading for a response to this thread. I hope they do it.

I PM Chris that this is one question that would really be appretiated if they just answered it. I Mean what the most annoying Thing about this is is the fact that they are ignoring us most likely:(

They reworked how you progress, so they reset your progress. Don’t really feel like it’s something to get up in arms about, and it’s a fairly normal practice in MMOs.

Okay, great. Glad you have an opinion. It is not one that we share.

We are still going to keep asking for a response.

Arewn.2368:

They reworked how you progress, so they reset your progress. Don’t really feel like it’s something to get up in arms about, and it’s a fairly normal practice in MMOs.

Well they will / reworked how you Progress in wvw as well and in wvw it’s a Major rework compared to fractals and still there is no reset of wxp ranks… so it’s not normal practice in MMO if it is tell me where ppl got a reset of they’re work without comperision?:)

There is no need to turn this thread into “Misery loves company” and hope that all players experience the same setbacks as us. Besides the WXP ranks are completely different than fractal progression. They are based on time spent doing whatever in WVW, not actually overcoming specific type of content.

At this point i believe that we all got reset so that we will have something to do in the couple of weeks before the next update.

I also don’t understand the point of different instabilities, since everyone can skip the undesirable ones as long as they join the right party. I’ve been doing all of them out of curiosity but along the way I met plenty of people that never did 40, 43, 46 etc.

Alright so, I’ve been trying to find a topic similar to the one I’m posting and I couldn’t find one – which kinda surprises me but anyways.

With update Fractured, anyone who had personal reward level for fractals above level 30 was reset to level 30 and has to start over again. It’s understandable they reset the level down to 30 due to new content and reward level limit at 50 but here lies the problem.

People who had their personal reward level above 30 have spent a lot of time in fractals. Fractals above level 20 usually take 1-2 hours to complete with random group.

Let’s make an example:
Someone who had their personal reward level 50 had to spend 50 days if he went fractals once per day. 50 days multiplied by average of 1h 30min is 75 hours in total or a bit more than 3 full days of playing.

The time spent for each fractals to complete grows much higher with fractals above level 50. Just the part after killing Rabsovich in dredge fractal, takes few hours in fractals level 60+. With that in our calculation, someone who had their personal reward level 70 had to spend 70 days of constant playing, with average of 2h 30min spent for completion of fractals which makes it 175 hours in total or 7 full days of playing fractals.

Now that you’ve seen my examples (the times may differ from players due to many factors), ask yourself – Is it fair for someone to just delete that time you’ve invested in something?

My answer is no! I don’t mind having my personal reward level reset but I do mind not getting any refunds for it. It’s like … someone who has spent half the time playing fractals than me for instance, gets to keep his personal reward level at, say, level 30, where I loose my 20 personal reward levels for which i spent about 30 hours or even more.

I suppose that with this Fractured update, Anet intended to attract more people to fractal content in the game, so why let down people who were dedicated to the content even before the update?

I’m not talking huge refunds or anything. I’m simply suggesting that those who had their personal reward levels above 30 (not those who had it 30 and stayed at 30 after the update), get refunds like maybe 2 fractal weapon tickets or something better you may think of. Oh, and by something better I don’t mean the materials used for infusions and such because obviously people who were personal reward level above 30 already have almost, if not fully ascended and infused gear and would find the materials useless.

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Arewn.2368:

They reworked how you progress, so they reset your progress. Don’t really feel like it’s something to get up in arms about, and it’s a fairly normal practice in MMOs.

Well they will / reworked how you Progress in wvw as well and in wvw it’s a Major rework compared to fractals and still there is no reset of wxp ranks… so it’s not normal practice in MMO if it is tell me where ppl got a reset of they’re work without comperision?:)

The nature of the two are different.
In one case, they reworked how you progressed and added new content to the progression. In the other case, it’s just an unlimited form of leveling.

These threads have been in the fractured subforum for weeks. You keep all the loot you collected in those fractals so you don’t lose any tangible items therefore I think you don’t deserve any compensation

I think before you state if you for or against compensation you should say if / what level you are at prior to the patch.

Generally:
People < lvl 30 don’t care and will not support compensation (especially if it means they don’t get something that other players may get if it’s an exclusive item or hard to get).
People lvl 30-50 do support the call for compensation.
Players lvl > 50 are really furious and want compensation.

Feel free to add your comments to the two threads >18+ pages in the fractured living story thread.

I gotta say, doing FOTM now is a lot more fun, but it’s also really unpleasant if you get a bad group.

Shpongle.6025:

I gotta say, doing FOTM now is a lot more fun, but it’s also really unpleasant if you get a bad group.

wait till your 50 as I am again you just do maybe dailies you pick the easiest ones 49 with big ar you can do 50 and it has no Change to the way yyou played before it’s all the same not more fun … there is no Point doing it because the rewards are kitten …

Arewn.2368:

They reworked how you progress, so they reset your progress. Don’t really feel like it’s something to get up in arms about, and it’s a fairly normal practice in MMOs.

Thanks for the clarification. If only we would have known this in the first place we could have accepted the huge rollback much easier. Where were you 30 pages ago?

Asko.4120:

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

soo I played the new fractals(till the new cap 50) and I Need to say old scale 80 was harder one of the big issues is because I got gearchecked at 40 I needed to get 50 ar .. and now I just can faceroll everything because I can tank agony hits from bosses LIKE A BOSSS it just doesn’t matter at all I don’t Need to dodge I have the Feeling my gameplay is getting worse while playing this Content because I don’t have to care or anything..

the mechanics might be cool but too easy compared to what we had on 80 one hit mechanics on bossfights with agony attacks is way harder than some minor Things you can’t make.

Look at it this way a scale 80 bossfight did go longer than 5 mins so not using an ulti actually was np because you played most of the time with ult on cd, doing less dmg (because of no crit / low endurance ) diddn’t matter cause the hp pool was way higher, getting random agony is a joke anyway either you have the gear or you don’t have it. all things that dmgs you over time besides the lvl 43 where you take increased dmg for each hit basicaly are not as hard to handle as the one hits if you missed a dodge on scale 80.

so basicaly what I Play now i one out of maybe 5 gambits I had on me anyway on 80 ..

and yeah since anet isn’t reading it anyway thanks for banning me from the Forums for 10 days because I defend myself against accusations and now I can post every 10 mins really cool…

you really know how you kill opignons if they don’t fit into what you want to hear

I already had low respect for you but this one takes the cake: You are actually comparing current lvl~50 to the old lvl80 and being angry about the lvl50 being easier
Just chill dude. Wait for anet to open more levels and you get to do your cliffside+dredge at scale 75 with the Double Tag Team or Weak Link instabilities.

lool first off I wasn’t scale 80 I was scale 81 big diffrence because you can tell when I did it with this scale. other diffrence.. it really will be easier because you Need proper ar to do it… and no this instabilities won’t occur again most likely because you already have a list of comming isntabilities I checked the list I found no of them even Close as hard as getting oneshotted by agony attacks… maybe you can tell me one … really ppl like you are telling all time hey maybe new fracs are more difficult you Need to earn it… man Cof p1 was harder at release than fracs 50 are now.. I can say things are easy because there is nothing I haven’t beaten… you don’t Need to respect me to waste my time in grinding 51 scales of fractals instead of mindless farming or flipping tp and get Money.. you don’t you could respect me when it was a challenge doing somthing in this game but there is no challenge… everything is made way to easy… no groupplay needed ( maybe a bit for bosses at 80 ect but not anymore) btw the gear now is stronger than the gear we used. Back on Topic so you think it is fair that they took away loads of hours of work? do you think they should reset wvw ranks as well with the new accountbound wvw ranks?

Heta.8629:

These threads have been in the fractured subforum for weeks. You keep all the loot you collected in those fractals so you don’t lose any tangible items therefore I think you don’t deserve any compensation

I don’t loose loot but I loose time.

See, before update I and those who were 30+, we were better and had advantage for better loot than those who weren’t 30+. Now, I’m on the same as someone who spent half the time playing fractals because they deleted my levels.

(Not to mention that this is contradictory to what they said for WvW: The lifetime achievements for WvW are insanely high and would take too many years to complete, yet they don’t want to decrease the numbers because by doing that, they would delete progress of some other players who already achieved a great % in those achievements – so they keep it sleeping until they find a good solution)

With that said, I’ll have to spend another like 30 hours to get back to the reasonable personal reward level to get the same loot I could get previously.

So this is more like a question if Anet gives a kitten about us who were dedicated fractal players before the update or doesn’t want to hear about us again and wants to focus on gaining new players to this content (doing the opposite to the players who were already dedicated).

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Shpongle.6025:

I gotta say, doing FOTM now is a lot more fun, but it’s also really unpleasant if you get a bad group.

wait till your 50 as I am again you just do maybe dailies you pick the easiest ones 49 with big ar you can do 50 and it has no Change to the way yyou played before it’s all the same not more fun … there is no Point doing it because the rewards are kitten …

the rewards weren’t great in the old system either at 50+, it wasn’t profitable to run.

Asko.4120:

No, WvW ranks should not be reset because that would affect the gameplay balance too much and WvW systems aren’t being remade. But I do feel sorry for people who lost their ranks and I don’t think leaderboards was good enough of a reason to reset it. Then again, as ANet revamped fractals past scale 31 I can understand their decision.

And no I didn’t say new fractals are harder, I said that maybe you should wait for ArenaNet to reopen the fractals until 80 before making polemic claims. Of course lvl 50 is easier than level 79 or whatever, there is a ~30 level difference. Arenanet will open more levels in the future and I’m sure they will be challenging enough. Try clown car at 70+ with only 3 people? Or Cliffside/Ascalon at 70+ with Weak Link or No Second Chance? Then again me and you either can’t know what kind of scaling they will add so it is pointless to rant about everything being easier. I’ve done my share of level 79 fractals and the agony mechanic is pretty much pointless there as the base damage of the agony attacks is usually enough to down a player even without the agony ticks, maybe excluding Imbued Shaman’s arrow.

The gear is 5% stronger, which on top of the base stats drops down to ~3%, hardly significant. All I’m saying is: wait and have some patience.

It’s remade how you can acquire wvvw ranks first off on all twinks and secondly you can aquire em soon on Mists of The edge completly new mechanics for all those that don’t realize it now I’m not for a wvw ranks reset I would loose many ranks as well.. but only taking it to Show ppl what happened to us.. both ranks in wvw and in fractals are plain time spent. Both get a rework now ( edge of the mists as I said new map to aquire ranks + new mechanics)

They will most likly Keep the scaling they did Keep the scaling they had according to scaling Mobs. Yeah I can do clowncare at 70 + with only three People it’s not a big deal it’s just a time issue you can basicaly scorpion wire each mob on his own even after patch sooo you see I can do it just a matter of time. And Ascalon is way easier than it was prepatch due to the adds ( that scale as well) made way stronger you could solo AC before patch on 80 with really weak Mobs you most likly can do this easy with whatever instability… sooo you have any other instabilities that might be hard those aren’t fore sure… most of the isntabilities aren’t hard they just slow you down in killing Mobs… yeah you are slower with some instabilities making you deal less dmg or prohibiting you to deal big dmg to Mobs. but it’s easy to work around. there is nothing that Comes to my mind that I wouln’t know the right tactic for to do it maybe because I actually played fractals on those Levels before and had to figure out tactics because Mobs 1 shotted you …

please stop telling me it is right they reset my Levels only cause you think anet can provide Content for me wich wasn’t the case for well over a year…

Asko.4120:

The reading comprehension issues follow: As I said, you can’t know what kind of difficulty scaling they will add into the game and how the instabilities will affect the gameplay without playing it first, so can you stop your pointless ranting about atm-unexisting high level fractals being made easy?

This doesn’t matter. They reset our progress. It’s about equity. You seem to be jumping into this conversation pretty late, so I’d recommend reading previous posts from all the other people who argued the same thing before you rehash the same thing 20 times.

Ethics.4519:

Asko.4120:

The reading comprehension issues follow: As I said, you can’t know what kind of difficulty scaling they will add into the game and how the instabilities will affect the gameplay without playing it first, so can you stop your pointless ranting about atm-unexisting high level fractals being made easy?

This doesn’t matter. They reset our progress. It’s about equity. You seem to be jumping into this conversation pretty late, so I’d recommend reading previous posts from all the other people who argued the same thing before you rehash the same thing 20 times.

I agree. We have been having this conversation for nearly 2 weeks. It’s here so you can get acquainted with the conversation, rather than just ignore it

Asko.4120:

And Ascalon wasn’t soloable before patch, it was nerfed ages ago as people 1-manned it relying on npcs and just got insane loot. I actually have the feeling that you are the one who hasn’t played frac79 in a long time.

Yes, it was. It was soloable right up until the Fractured patch.

Ethics.4519:

Asko.4120:

The reading comprehension issues follow: As I said, you can’t know what kind of difficulty scaling they will add into the game and how the instabilities will affect the gameplay without playing it first, so can you stop your pointless ranting about atm-unexisting high level fractals being made easy?

This doesn’t matter. They reset our progress. It’s about equity. You seem to be jumping into this conversation pretty late, so I’d recommend reading previous posts from all the other people who argued the same thing before you rehash the same thing 20 times.

Deleted my posts.

I have become even more disheartened by this level reset. When I first did my levels I did them with PUGs. It was hard, it was a lot of work and it was sometimes dealing with some really unsavory characters. But I got it done….I had the sense of accomplishment at even being invited and doing fractals above 50.

I tried over the long weekend (holiday here in US) to regain some of my lost levels. I did 5 fractal sets…yet my personal reward level is still only 33. I got kicked from two groups over the weekend at the final boss. One told me they were kicking me to bring in their guildmates so that their guildmates could advance (without having to spend the hours beforehand getting to the final boss)…the other kicked all of us at the final boss when the person who started the fractal suddenly disconnected (we had Mai Trin almost dead) whether on purpose or not we do not know.

So for about 8 hours of “work” to regain my lost levels, I gained 3 levels. Did I have fun? Not really, I am mainly doing it for the achievements right now. I used it as a “teaching” moment for 2 of the runs since the people were fairly obviously new at running fractals so I showed them some tricks that helped. Rewards? 3 infused rings that I already have a couple bank vaults full of….only these are the “new” infused rings.

I am still extremely bitter at this. All of my forward progress that I worked hard for is gone, and I will probably never get it back because of the PUG issue. I hate even running dungeons because of the griefers who grab the final chest and quit out closing the dungeon on the group…Fractals just makes it worse.

Asko.4120:

Ethics.4519:

Asko.4120:

The reading comprehension issues follow: As I said, you can’t know what kind of difficulty scaling they will add into the game and how the instabilities will affect the gameplay without playing it first, so can you stop your pointless ranting about atm-unexisting high level fractals being made easy?

This doesn’t matter. They reset our progress. It’s about equity. You seem to be jumping into this conversation pretty late, so I’d recommend reading previous posts from all the other people who argued the same thing before you rehash the same thing 20 times.

Deleted my posts.

That doesn’t stop you from reading the previous answers to your question.

I believe I remember your posts, and it’s for the better they were removed.

Moshari.8570:

I have become even more disheartened by this level reset. When I first did my levels I did them with PUGs. It was hard, it was a lot of work and it was sometimes dealing with some really unsavory characters. But I got it done….I had the sense of accomplishment at even being invited and doing fractals above 50.

I tried over the long weekend (holiday here in US) to regain some of my lost levels. I did 5 fractal sets…yet my personal reward level is still only 33. I got kicked from two groups over the weekend at the final boss. One told me they were kicking me to bring in their guildmates so that their guildmates could advance (without having to spend the hours beforehand getting to the final boss)…the other kicked all of us at the final boss when the person who started the fractal suddenly disconnected (we had Mai Trin almost dead) whether on purpose or not we do not know.

So for about 8 hours of “work” to regain my lost levels, I gained 3 levels. Did I have fun? Not really, I am mainly doing it for the achievements right now. I used it as a “teaching” moment for 2 of the runs since the people were fairly obviously new at running fractals so I showed them some tricks that helped. Rewards? 3 infused rings that I already have a couple bank vaults full of….only these are the “new” infused rings.

I am still extremely bitter at this. All of my forward progress that I worked hard for is gone, and I will probably never get it back because of the PUG issue. I hate even running dungeons because of the griefers who grab the final chest and quit out closing the dungeon on the group…Fractals just makes it worse.

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

I just PMed him and invited him to play with my guild groups. We should form a random collection of people who are upset about the reset and tired of pugging with bads party for fotm =).

I’m still at 31. Unfortunately, it was a guild group, however some of the may have been under the influence and not really comprehending what was going on lol.

For the Record, I love my guild, they just tend to lose focus easily in dungeons/fotm.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Moshari.8570:

I have become even more disheartened by this level reset. When I first did my levels I did them with PUGs. It was hard, it was a lot of work and it was sometimes dealing with some really unsavory characters. But I got it done….I had the sense of accomplishment at even being invited and doing fractals above 50.

I tried over the long weekend (holiday here in US) to regain some of my lost levels. I did 5 fractal sets…yet my personal reward level is still only 33. I got kicked from two groups over the weekend at the final boss. One told me they were kicking me to bring in their guildmates so that their guildmates could advance (without having to spend the hours beforehand getting to the final boss)…the other kicked all of us at the final boss when the person who started the fractal suddenly disconnected (we had Mai Trin almost dead) whether on purpose or not we do not know.

So for about 8 hours of “work” to regain my lost levels, I gained 3 levels. Did I have fun? Not really, I am mainly doing it for the achievements right now. I used it as a “teaching” moment for 2 of the runs since the people were fairly obviously new at running fractals so I showed them some tricks that helped. Rewards? 3 infused rings that I already have a couple bank vaults full of….only these are the “new” infused rings.

I am still extremely bitter at this. All of my forward progress that I worked hard for is gone, and I will probably never get it back because of the PUG issue. I hate even running dungeons because of the griefers who grab the final chest and quit out closing the dungeon on the group…Fractals just makes it worse.

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

sorry for you guys but trust me if you have done it you just sit around at 50 and have no reason to ever enter a fractal again.. rewards are still not worth it to do fractals over just some mindless afk farmruns. And somehow I am still stuck with the “loosing Progress Thing” it makes working for somthing at least for me pretty meaningles..
I don’t know the Feeling that it doesn’t matter and everything you do can be reseted is way worse than the actualy reset itself( well the actual reset caused the Feeling but still).

Ethics.4519:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

I just PMed him and invited him to play with my guild groups. We should form a random collection of people who are upset about the reset and tired of pugging with bads party for fotm =).

I’m still at 31. Unfortunately, it was a guild group, however some of the may have been under the influence and not really comprehending what was going on lol.

For the Record, I love my guild, they just tend to lose focus easily in dungeons/fotm.

Glad to hear. I also love my guild. But we are a social guild, not a dungeon guild. There are days I just don’t want to be chill in a dungeon, like when I have a limited amount of time and don’t wanna waste it.

We do need a group of like minded individuals. Although as you know Ethics I’m terrible so I’m not sure I belong with this crew. Lol

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

sorry for you guys but trust me if you have done it you just sit around at 50 and have no reason to ever enter a fractal again.. rewards are still not worth it to do fractals over just some mindless afk farmruns. And somehow I am still stuck with the “loosing Progress Thing” it makes working for somthing at least for me pretty meaningles..
I don’t know the Feeling that it doesn’t matter and everything you do can be reseted is way worse than the actualy reset itself( well the actual reset caused the Feeling but still).

I was afraid of this. And the whole reset has kept me relatively distant from fractals. I mean, we’ll most likely just get reset back to 30 or lower when 51+ comes out… cuz… leaderboards…. yeah.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

We do need a group of like minded individuals. Although as you know Ethics I’m terrible so I’m not sure I belong with this crew. Lol

You’re good as long as you’re not distracted =)

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Moshari.8570:

I have become even more disheartened by this level reset. When I first did my levels I did them with PUGs. It was hard, it was a lot of work and it was sometimes dealing with some really unsavory characters. But I got it done….I had the sense of accomplishment at even being invited and doing fractals above 50.

I tried over the long weekend (holiday here in US) to regain some of my lost levels. I did 5 fractal sets…yet my personal reward level is still only 33. I got kicked from two groups over the weekend at the final boss. One told me they were kicking me to bring in their guildmates so that their guildmates could advance (without having to spend the hours beforehand getting to the final boss)…the other kicked all of us at the final boss when the person who started the fractal suddenly disconnected (we had Mai Trin almost dead) whether on purpose or not we do not know.

So for about 8 hours of “work” to regain my lost levels, I gained 3 levels. Did I have fun? Not really, I am mainly doing it for the achievements right now. I used it as a “teaching” moment for 2 of the runs since the people were fairly obviously new at running fractals so I showed them some tricks that helped. Rewards? 3 infused rings that I already have a couple bank vaults full of….only these are the “new” infused rings.

I am still extremely bitter at this. All of my forward progress that I worked hard for is gone, and I will probably never get it back because of the PUG issue. I hate even running dungeons because of the griefers who grab the final chest and quit out closing the dungeon on the group…Fractals just makes it worse.

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

sorry for you guys but trust me if you have done it you just sit around at 50 and have no reason to ever enter a fractal again.. rewards are still not worth it to do fractals over just some mindless afk farmruns. And somehow I am still stuck with the “loosing Progress Thing” it makes working for somthing at least for me pretty meaningles..
I don’t know the Feeling that it doesn’t matter and everything you do can be reseted is way worse than the actualy reset itself( well the actual reset caused the Feeling but still).

I haven’t step in the “new” awesome fractal but I do read the forum posts from people I’ve know from dungeons, especial the list from Nike and it pretty much said the same thing.

@ Lilith & Ethics

I basically just run w/ my family guild & nothing else lately in addition to several old friends known from the LFG guild when they are bored w/ pug. But Lilith & Ethics, you can add me to your list if you don’t want to run w/ pug. At least from many of your post history, I know you guys don’t use the build of the developers from twitch tv. Or the afk skill.
I love that stream and it tells everything of everything.

SkyChef.5432:

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Moshari.8570:

I have become even more disheartened by this level reset. When I first did my levels I did them with PUGs. It was hard, it was a lot of work and it was sometimes dealing with some really unsavory characters. But I got it done….I had the sense of accomplishment at even being invited and doing fractals above 50.

I tried over the long weekend (holiday here in US) to regain some of my lost levels. I did 5 fractal sets…yet my personal reward level is still only 33. I got kicked from two groups over the weekend at the final boss. One told me they were kicking me to bring in their guildmates so that their guildmates could advance (without having to spend the hours beforehand getting to the final boss)…the other kicked all of us at the final boss when the person who started the fractal suddenly disconnected (we had Mai Trin almost dead) whether on purpose or not we do not know.

So for about 8 hours of “work” to regain my lost levels, I gained 3 levels. Did I have fun? Not really, I am mainly doing it for the achievements right now. I used it as a “teaching” moment for 2 of the runs since the people were fairly obviously new at running fractals so I showed them some tricks that helped. Rewards? 3 infused rings that I already have a couple bank vaults full of….only these are the “new” infused rings.

I am still extremely bitter at this. All of my forward progress that I worked hard for is gone, and I will probably never get it back because of the PUG issue. I hate even running dungeons because of the griefers who grab the final chest and quit out closing the dungeon on the group…Fractals just makes it worse.

Aw, Moshari…

I am at lvl 31. Guild groups have been bad, and pugs have been worse. I’ve resorted to boss events in pve and chatting in LA in my time playing. It’s not worth the trouble.

sorry for you guys but trust me if you have done it you just sit around at 50 and have no reason to ever enter a fractal again.. rewards are still not worth it to do fractals over just some mindless afk farmruns. And somehow I am still stuck with the “loosing Progress Thing” it makes working for somthing at least for me pretty meaningles..
I don’t know the Feeling that it doesn’t matter and everything you do can be reseted is way worse than the actualy reset itself( well the actual reset caused the Feeling but still).

I haven’t step in the “new” awesome fractal but I do read the forum posts from people I’ve know from dungeons, especial the list from Nike and it pretty much said the same thing.

@ Lilith & Ethics

I basically just run w/ my family guild & nothing else lately in addition to several old friends known from the LFG guild when they are bored w/ pug. But Lilith & Ethics, you can add me to your list if you don’t want to run w/ pug. At least I know you don’t use the build of the developers from twitch tv. Or the afk skill.
I love that stream and it tells everything of everything.

Pshaw, I may not use the afk skill but if I’m in mumble with my bois I don’t s-t-/f-u or pay attention to what I’m doing.

Hahaha. Jokes I’m okay I guess. I can run zerk and not die usually.

SkyChef.5432:

@ Lilith & Ethics

I basically just run w/ my family guild & nothing else lately in addition to several old friends known from the LFG guild when they are bored w/ pug. But Lilith & Ethics, you can add me to your list if you don’t want to run w/ pug. At least from many of your post history, I know you guys don’t use the build of the developers from twitch tv. Or the afk skill.
I love that stream and it tells everything of everything.

Perfect, consider yourself added.

If I bring my thief, I usually only bring P/P and I make sure to only use my heal when i’m at full health for that OP stealth + #1 skill.

As the reset of PvP ranks had been used to express our feelings on our own level reset, it is interesting to see that Anet is now saying they will put out this ranking system. Yet, the way they are handling this seems quite different from the way they handle us…

Once ladders are implemented, ranks will be retired. To honor the effort that players have put into the rank system, existing players will be able to keep all unlocked rank finishers and will earn a special title based on your rank to show that you were there from the start.

Estriella Faerie.4029:

As the reset of PvP ranks had been used to express our feelings on our own level reset, it is interesting to see that Anet is now saying they will put out this ranking system. Yet, the way they are handling this seems quite different from the way they handle us…

“Once ladders are implemented, ranks will be retired. To honor the effort that players have put into the rank system, existing players will be able to keep all unlocked rank finishers and will earn a special title based on your rank to show that you were there from the start.”

Lol, jeesh, I wonder where they got that great idea from…..

Certainly not all the haters in here saying it’s different, we deserve nothing.

are you kittening me?
Are you seriously kittening me?

Lilith Ajit.6173:

are you kittening me?
Are you seriously kittening me?

I’m not. But it seems like Anet is.
Source: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/player-vs-player-rewards-roadmap/

cries forever

I tried so hard, and got so far, and in the end it didn’t even matter…

bahhhhhhhhh

PS how dare they not even respond to this thread?! After they obviously looked at it and took its advice to another part of the game?!

Ethics.4519:

Estriella Faerie.4029:

As the reset of PvP ranks had been used to express our feelings on our own level reset, it is interesting to see that Anet is now saying they will put out this ranking system. Yet, the way they are handling this seems quite different from the way they handle us…

“Once ladders are implemented, ranks will be retired. To honor the effort that players have put into the rank system, existing players will be able to keep all unlocked rank finishers and will earn a special title based on your rank to show that you were there from the start.”

Lol, jeesh, I wonder where they got that great idea from…..

Certainly not all the haters in here saying it’s different, we deserve nothing.

Boy do I feel like the unwanted child…..yet again, they are doing something that we had asked for ourselves (almost the exact proposal I had way back in the beginning), for another group…but not a single post here.

I keep thinking that they just didn’t have time to implement anything for us…that they truly thought they were doing a “good compromise” by letting higher ups stay at 30 rather than leveling everyone down to 1.

And since they didn’t have time to implement anything before going live with the patch…and the patch successfully “wiped” all progress from the databanks, it is too late for them to do anything now….since they have no way of recovering that lost data (what levels we were) and as such, they don’t reply or comment here for the simple reason that there is nothing they can do and are worried that commenting would only open another can-o-worms.

In their minds its better to stay silent and hope that someday we forget what happened and live with it.

Moshari.8570:

Boy do I feel like the unwanted child…..
…
In their minds its better to stay silent and hope that someday we forget what happened and live with it.

I feel the same way…
If they think staying silent is a way to make us forget what happened, they should take some psychology classes… It only adds oil on fire to purposely ignore such an issue…