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Posted by: Mindtrick.5190

Mindtrick.5190

Matching posters to a guild helps me pick targets. Please update signatures

Edit: don’t get soft and start pulling community cards. A few chest thumpers don’t equal a community.

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Posted by: Nyta.4769

Nyta.4769

So we face a force easily 3x the size of our 20 person zerg on TCBL, they drive us back to garrison from bay, and then they simultaneously /laugh at us. My chat log is having convulsions right about now.

Keep it classy, SoR. Keep it classy.

That was just to get your guys to charge out it wasn’t anything personal.

Into 3x our number? Not likely. xD

From our perspective, you had greater numbers than us, our commander found it hilarious that you were running when you had such a big Zerg, the laughing wasn’t meant as anything malicious, we just found the situation of a 60 man Zerg running away from us humerous.

TC’s commander did /supplyinfo before the Bay attack, and we had 23 people. Where you get 60, I have no idea.

So yeah, if you guys had 45 (I thought it was closer to about 35-40, but if you guys say 45, I’ll believe you), you definitely outnumbered us.

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

If you call “running” standing at your garrison sentry and wiping you three times. Oh, and then there was the time we wiped you when you tried to go save your supply camp next to bay.. Shucks though we sure did “run.” :p

I’m not sure what group you wiped 3 times, but it wasn’t the same group that was /laughing at you.

No, he was with the SoR Group doing the laughing, and providing such a wonderful example for his community just like his posts here.

plz don’t make assumptions about the sor community and we wont urs now lets plzz keep this thread civil

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Posted by: Usagi.4835

Usagi.4835

So much for a nice thread. Shame the bigmouths had to ruin it. WvW vacation time anyway.

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Posted by: Floy.2056

Floy.2056

So we face a force easily 3x the size of our 20 person zerg on TCBL, they drive us back to garrison from bay, and then they simultaneously /laugh at us. My chat log is having convulsions right about now.

Keep it classy, SoR. Keep it classy.

That was just to get your guys to charge out it wasn’t anything personal.

Into 3x our number? Not likely. xD

From our perspective, you had greater numbers than us, our commander found it hilarious that you were running when you had such a big Zerg, the laughing wasn’t meant as anything malicious, we just found the situation of a 60 man Zerg running away from us humerous.

TC’s commander did /supplyinfo before the Bay attack, and we had 23 people. Where you get 60, I have no idea.

So yeah, if you guys had 45 (I thought it was closer to about 35-40, but if you guys say 45, I’ll believe you), you definitely outnumbered us.

We had about 25-30 initially, perhaps 40 when we had you backed into Garrison, there was no way that you only had 23 at that point, maybe 15 minutes earlier when you started the bay attack.

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Posted by: Valin.4527

Valin.4527

Guys, agree to disagree and move on.

And if you aren’t going to post your guild tag in your sig you are hiding – be proud of your guild, be proud of your server but most of all be a good sport.

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Posted by: Nyta.4769

Nyta.4769

So we face a force easily 3x the size of our 20 person zerg on TCBL, they drive us back to garrison from bay, and then they simultaneously /laugh at us. My chat log is having convulsions right about now.

Keep it classy, SoR. Keep it classy.

That was just to get your guys to charge out it wasn’t anything personal.

Into 3x our number? Not likely. xD

From our perspective, you had greater numbers than us, our commander found it hilarious that you were running when you had such a big Zerg, the laughing wasn’t meant as anything malicious, we just found the situation of a 60 man Zerg running away from us humerous.

TC’s commander did /supplyinfo before the Bay attack, and we had 23 people. Where you get 60, I have no idea.

So yeah, if you guys had 45 (I thought it was closer to about 35-40, but if you guys say 45, I’ll believe you), you definitely outnumbered us.

We had about 25-30 initially, perhaps 40 when we had you backed into Garrison, there was no way that you only had 23 at that point, maybe 15 minutes earlier when you started the bay attack.

You’re right that we didn’t have 23 when you backed us up to our garrison; several of our people had died, so we were probably down to about 15-20.

Your side absolutely had more than 25-30, though. At least 35, and one person from your own server said you had 45.

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Posted by: Mindtrick.5190

Mindtrick.5190

We had over 9000

/next

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Posted by: Sab.5291

Sab.5291

HEY SOS! It’s 8:15 do you know where your players are?
Because you can own all of SOR. they have been in our third for the last 6 hours!!!

I am the One and Only, Sab!
“STUN”
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Posted by: Kreaven.3172

Kreaven.3172

Sorry SoR. TC is giving as good as it can atm. Many players are checking out the new content. And many more just wont stay when they get wiped more than twice = (. Promise we will keep giving as much as our numbers allow though.

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Posted by: Zen.8497

Zen.8497

Majority of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.

The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.

That could happen in the old system as well.

It never happened within the same tier, for example in the old system you had to defeat the number 1 server to take it’s place at least 1 time. Same for 2nd and 3rd place and same for every tier.
Come on guys, no excuses, TC’ers and SoS’ers don’t start taking it easy on SoR.

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Posted by: Mauri.1496

Mauri.1496

Streaming live tonight from EB – twitch.tv/maurigw2

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Posted by: Omnitek.3876

Omnitek.3876

Better be a 1080p stream, not the poverty 720p mindtrick streams. I’m too lazy to stream. Hell, I’m too lazy to command anymore! Will sub for a shout out! Lol

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Posted by: neomccoy.2657

neomccoy.2657

Awesome fights in EB against Tsym and FEAR.

Most fun I had in a while. We learned a lot.

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Posted by: appledainty.8127

appledainty.8127

Appledainty I am officially calling you and [Doly] out!

I do not care about the score. I do not care about ppt.

What I DO care about is a Dolyak parade this thursday around 8’ish server time!

All servers, no BS, just a bit of fun and yaks.

I think this match up would be better for it.

Thank you,

A kind soul from SoR.

My response.<3

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Posted by: Raven Paradox.1860

Raven Paradox.1860

Sorry SoR. TC is giving as good as it can atm. Many players are checking out the new content. And many more just wont stay when they get wiped more than twice = (. Promise we will keep giving as much as our numbers allow though.

You guys give up a much better fight than JQ and BG

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Posted by: ginataanggata.2746

ginataanggata.2746

Appledainty I am officially calling you and [Doly] out!

I do not care about the score. I do not care about ppt.

What I DO care about is a Dolyak parade this thursday around 8’ish server time!

All servers, no BS, just a bit of fun and yaks.

I think this match up would be better for it.

Thank you,

A kind soul from SoR.

My response.<3

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Posted by: Mauri.1496

Mauri.1496

Better be a 1080p stream, not the poverty 720p mindtrick streams. I’m too lazy to stream. Hell, I’m too lazy to command anymore! Will sub for a shout out! Lol

Is there any other way to stream?

Mauri
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Posted by: grave of hearts.7830

grave of hearts.7830

Awww SoR didnt fell for it a 4th time ^^
But you still lost sm inner gate and you still got no supply.

SoS Defence and Emergency commander
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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

HEY SOS! It’s 8:15 do you know where your players are?
Because you can own all of SOR. they have been in our third for the last 6 hours!!!

Funny… you forget that SoR routinely queues 3/4maps per night… we almost always have a group watching that BL… your best chance at grabbing our bl would be between 2-4am NA time…

But that could be said for almost every NA server…

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

LameFox.6349

Are TYSM and TSYM related?

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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

Not that I know of… TSYM is a 800+member wvw guild. Never heard of TYSM…

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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

lawl… tysm in mauri’s sig is a typo…

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Posted by: Beastyboi.2918

Beastyboi.2918

Man SoR you guys are fun to fight, thanks to FEAR and TSYM in particular for the good battles in EBG, we enjoy the battling the hundred (100) man horde! Couldn’t get better fights or training.

it was fun but that hammer train ._.

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Posted by: Mauri.1496

Mauri.1496

lawl… tysm in mauri’s sig is a typo…

Yep, it totally was.. I changed it the other night while on auto-run in WvW. Multi-tasking like the best of em… Ooops — Thank’s for catching that!

Mauri
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Posted by: Urrid.4593

Urrid.4593

This picture captures the match perfectly.

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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

Haha! You must have been absent when tc has been rolling around with a 70 person group in EB the past two days….

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Posted by: Hickeroar.9734

Hickeroar.9734

Haha! You must have been absent when tc has been rolling around with a 70 person group in EB the past two days….

Yeah, EBG tends to be our most populated map, and on weeknights during NA prime, when there isn’t a big nasty PvE event going on, we generally queue 3/4 maps, at least for a little while. I’ve seen us queue all four in the past when people are extra frisky, but that doesn’t usually last long. Now that RE is here, I wouldn’t be surprised if we queue all 4 during at least part of NA Prime pretty often.

I think if SoR would have matched/exceeded our population on sunday and monday nights, we would have probably had a bit of a stalemate on points instead of us pulling ahead as far as we did during those timeslots. I think we might have had more people on those two nights than you did. You guys rolled out a lot more tonight, and that mixed with the dragon crap…we just couldn’t do as well tonight.

Good fights earlier in SoRBL though. We lost our commander in the middle of one fight due to net issues, and ended up having another guy from another guild pop his tag and finish the fight. Really fun, though, and we actually pulled out a victory.

I had to run off during the initial siege against Bay (the golems at the wurm gate while XPK created the small diversion at NE gate), but it looks like they held on to it.

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Posted by: Catixie.6351

Catixie.6351

SOR zerg why you ruin our fun at pang

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

LameFox.6349

Haha! You must have been absent when tc has been rolling around with a 70 person group in EB the past two days….

To be fair that’s not hard to be, they often vanish after NA prime. Yesterday at one point I think there were literally 5-6 of us in EB all defending one tower from a SoS swarm. Luckily that was pretty much the lowest of the low points though and people started to trickle in afterwards, so we managed to hold the keep at least.

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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

Hickeroar, I’ve been sitting at work watching the mos map every night since reset and I can tell you with certainty that TC has a certain 1-4am NA timeslot advantage over SoR. It seems to be the time when you guys really start to hit the maps hard.

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Posted by: Laced Cozier Zone.3189

Laced Cozier Zone.3189

I don’t post on this forum very often, but I absolutely have to tonight. I could not have had more fun on EB tonight fighting RE and the TC zerg. The open field fights were simply awesome. Kudos to RE and TC for their class and sportsmanship. I wish spontaneous sparring like this could happen more often.

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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

lamefox, I agree that your NA prime can be more or less sporatic. Tonight was a good example of that

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Posted by: neomccoy.2657

neomccoy.2657

I don’t post on this forum very often, but I absolutely have to tonight. I could not have had more fun on EB tonight fighting RE and the TC zerg. The open field fights were simply awesome. Kudos to RE and TC for their class and sportsmanship. I wish spontaneous sparring like this could happen more often.

Tomorrow night RE will be in EB most likely again, most of us will be on at 5-8 pm server time. We had a blast also, thank you for letting us destroy the sieges outside SM that your militia built. The lag was awful tho.

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Posted by: Alodar.5794

Alodar.5794

TSL is having a great time this week. Keep up the good fights everyone. Hope to see more fights in the field!

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Madamber – Level 80 Guardian
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Posted by: Mattimeo.2146

Mattimeo.2146

Majprity of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.

Pls note I am not talking about skill, but about coverage.

What are ANET thinking? You’re the server claiming to have gone easy on us for this week. Maybe if you hadn’t done that, you wouldn’t be in danger of losing 1st…

Eh, not that it matters all that much. A particularly bad random roll could send them to T3 even if they are rated above you…

I think the scores are spread enough that you need a very bad roll in conjunction with a good roll from SoS for any t1 server to risk a t3 fight.

Give us a bad roll next week, and top 2 tiers should be relatively self-contained. We’re just awkwardly positioned halfway between t2 and the rest of t3, and therefore liable to jump to t2 with anything positive.

The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.

That could happen in the old system as well.

It never happened within the same tier, for example in the old system you had to defeat the number 1 server to take it’s place at least 1 time. Same for 2nd and 3rd place and same for every tier.

The reverse actually happened with the old system. t3 and t4 were a lot closer than the old ratings would suggest – the two matches so far where CD (2nd by a long way in t4) has been basically neck and neck with two t3 servers the whole week (I believe actually winning last week?) serve as clear evidence to that.

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Posted by: Shaojack.3871

Shaojack.3871

TSL is having a great time this week. Keep up the good fights everyone. Hope to see more fights in the field!

Good to hear! Hopefully I can catch you guys sneaking into my kitten keeps sooner though.

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Posted by: Aneirin Cadwall.9126

Aneirin Cadwall.9126

We’re facing a force 3 times the size of our 20-person zerg on TC BL. We’re driven back to Garrison from Bay, and then they simultaneously /laugh at us. Keep it classy, SoR. Keep it classy.

It feels like I’m always yelling at pretentious (or juvenile) PUGs about this. There’s no pride in winning with numbers. That’s something I stick by on both sides of a fight. I don’t yell about it because I think it ‘makes defeated enemies feel bad’ or anything. To the contrary, it makes us look like either bullies or idiots. Not that those two things are mutually exclusive… :P

I personally have more respect for TC than any world we’ve faced climbing up the ladder from near the bottom, and I’ve been Wv3’ing since the beginning (once I hit 80). I don’t actually remember which tier SoR started in, though. Someone can refresh my memory, I’m sure.

Men who achieve some power desire more until they destroy themselves trying to get it.—Turai Ossa
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Posted by: Clockradio.3257

Clockradio.3257

Haha! You must have been absent when tc has been rolling around with a 70 person group in EB the past two days….

Ah Clockradio I wish our TC zerg was 70-70+ the last two nights. In reality though, our zerg has seldom reached 60 players we have mostly been around 50-60 during fights. I think various reasons contributed to that. The highest count I had against you guys stacked up was 61, but generally. 55-57 was the number. Either way fun times and thanks for your positive remarks of our Guild [RE]

Haha! I guess I have to l2count… nevertheless, you guys certainly have given us some good fights this week. I look forward to seeing you guys around more often, just hopefully not in a situation like what DB is in now…

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Posted by: Shaojack.3871

Shaojack.3871

Well most things said here hold little weight.
If someone /laugh at you from another server, don’t come crying here, pugs are usually the biggest offenders but not always, they just a little ramped up.
As for numbers being offset, this could be a whole lot worse, we decided to take a relaxed approach this week in favor of a more fun match up and began getting ridiculed and if we all push we get ridiculed again. We have a large wvw population, our overall pop isn’t much larger if larger at all than TC.
If you want to complain to anyone, write to Anet, I think we’ve done what we can to make this a closer match up and we really cannot please everyone. So please just try to enjoy the rest of the week and have fun everyone.

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Posted by: Sovereign.1093

Sovereign.1093

Hi,

Happy dragon bash!!!

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Posted by: Sab.5291

Sab.5291

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

SOS … —- …

SOR has been ignoring you so far this week!!! GET IN GAME!!!

I am the One and Only, Sab!
“STUN”
Find me in the front of the TC zurg

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Posted by: Le Rooster.8715

Le Rooster.8715

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

SOS … —- …

SOR has been ignoring you so far this week!!! GET IN GAME!!!

No, don’t tell us what to do.

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Posted by: Ghedoriah.4290

Ghedoriah.4290

A lot of SoS don’t really use the forum much anyway. The old SBI/CD/SoS threads were the quietest match-up topics around.

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Posted by: Galyndean.8365

Galyndean.8365

Yeah, getting to 5 pages would be a talkative week.

I think the liveliest thing that happened was the SBI/CD/SoS thread being modded for… who knows what reason.

[TAL] The Aegis Legion
Sea of Sorrows

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Posted by: Dhampyr.2104

Dhampyr.2104

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

SOS … —- …

SOR has been ignoring you so far this week!!! GET IN GAME!!!

SoS’s PPT is higher than ours is right now. Maybe we’re the ones that need to get in game. xD

I also don’t think they’ve packed it in, although I wasn’t in WvW last night. SoS never quit last week, and I doubt they’ll do it this week either. Great fights.

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Posted by: Sab.5291

Sab.5291

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

SOS … —- …

SOR has been ignoring you so far this week!!! GET IN GAME!!!

SoS’s PPT is higher than ours is right now. Maybe we’re the ones that need to get in game. xD

I also don’t think they’ve packed it in, although I wasn’t in WvW last night. SoS never quit last week, and I doubt they’ll do it this week either. Great fights.

Nah, they didn’t pack it in… (was a joke)
I just want to see them out in force…
I like SoS! I want to see the underdog of this matchup start smacking the big dog around. The battles are so much better when all 3 teams are on the field. If SoR is fully focused on TC with their backs to SoS, I loved to see them stick a dagger in it. (no offense SoR, you guys are really good)

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“STUN”
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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

What are ANET thinking? You’re the server claiming to have gone easy on us for this week. Maybe if you hadn’t done that, you wouldn’t be in danger of losing 1st…

Obviously those poster you quoted has a different opinion, but I can safely say that there are many of us in SoR that could care less about the actual rating points. If the math to determine rating didn’t get changed, we were going to lose ground against BG no matter how many points we put on the board.

Personally, I think it would do BG some good to regain #1. They are out i droves this week during NA in their current match, which is something that hasn’t happened in weeks.

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Posted by: Shaojack.3871

Shaojack.3871

What are ANET thinking? You’re the server claiming to have gone easy on us for this week. Maybe if you hadn’t done that, you wouldn’t be in danger of losing 1st…

Obviously those poster you quoted has a different opinion, but I can safely say that there are many of us in SoR that could care less about the actual rating points. If the math to determine rating didn’t get changed, we were going to lose ground against BG no matter how many points we put on the board.

Personally, I think it would do BG some good to regain #1. They are out i droves this week during NA in their current match, which is something that hasn’t happened in weeks.

Those would be the undesirables that only show up during favorable match ups =D

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Posted by: WyldKat.4712

WyldKat.4712

I’m too lazy to stream.

Dr. Peter Venkman: ’Scuse me, Egon? You said crossing the streams was bad!

I didn’t WvW last night. Moar events ACHIEVEMENTS! I got some Jade Weapon ticket thingy. Meh, no likey the looky. For any of my three toons. Boo.

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

Maybe they’re just munching popcorn enjoying the show. That or they’re smarter than they’re letting on.

Zestee, Cryptician Zetti, Zissi The Jack, Zi Mao,
Ziffy Snidehide, Zadie Hawkkin, Zannie Oakley, Zuulja
[ODIN],[NaCl] – Tarnished Coast