Open world Duels [Merged]
So…. I have to ask… after reading so many people using this reason for wanting duels….
Why do you need to test your PVE gear in a PvP setting? You can get all the same skins in PvP. Why does PvE gear matter unless you are doing it solely to have a gear advantage over your opponent (ie Ascended vs Rares).
Edit: And you can do that crap in WvW anyway. (PvE gear vs PvE gear)
You didint read well then,
We weant to fight with our PVE gear for many reason:
1.- We can use the armor we love and craft to fight. A lo of people thinks the same, most of the good spvp armor are on a very high lvl, if you dont know how hard is to get lvl 80 in spvp u will never get this.
2.- We can fight with our guild members to have fun or to test my build against another build i will like to learn how to counter in WvW.
3.- SPVP and WvW is veryyyyy different, in WvW you have food, more space, big zergs, siege weapons, cap points, roaming . . . etc.
4.- No one actually wants to bulling u with a asended gear (the stats are almost the same anyways), YOU WILL HAVE A CHOICE TO AUTO DECLINE FIGHTS!
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
This will bring new blood to the game, because honestly for several people is getting boring that all is about temporaly PVE content killing easy mobs and destroying piñatas.
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
I hope it gets put in. I also hope that at the same time a toggle is added “Decline all duel requests”.
I already removed /map from my chat tabs.
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Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
actually, this thread is full of them, you just refuse to recognize any.
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
actually, this thread is full of them, you just refuse to recognize any.
I will make you a list of the arguments you mention:
1.- I dont want a guy asking to duel while iam doing my archives
- Answer: Auto decline duel function.
2.- I dont want to listen a guy calling me a coward because i decline a duel.
*Answer: Block messages from him. there is a lot of trash talk already, even in WvW with dances and laughing animations.
3.- There is no balance for 1v1 dueling.
*Answer: The game right know is well balanced (is not suppous never to be a balance between 1v1, it depends of the profession and the build to counter).
Also it is just a duel, you will not lose anything!! is just to have fun and test build with ur friend and guild members.
4.- There will be QQ in the forum for the balance in dueling.
*Answer: there is already a lot of QQ nerf this nerf that post. It is a duel again, if you accpet to duel is because you want, and dont care if you lose.
All of this arguments has no base and are incredible selfish.
Again being an objective person . . . . give a a real reason we dont have a duel system like almost every good MMO in the market.
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
actually, this thread is full of them, you just refuse to recognize any.
I will make you a list of the arguments you mention:
1.- I dont want a guy asking to duel while iam doing my archives
- Answer: Auto decline duel function.
2.- I dont want to listen a guy calling me a coward because i decline a duel.
*Answer: Block messages from him. there is a lot of trash talk already, even in WvW with dances and laughing animations.3.- There is no balance for 1v1 dueling.
*Answer: The game right know is well balanced (is not suppous never to be a balance between 1v1, it depends of the profession and the build to counter).Also it is just a duel, you will not lose anything!! is just to have fun and test build with ur friend and guild members.
4.- There will be QQ in the forum for the balance in dueling.
*Answer: there is already a lot of QQ nerf this nerf that post. It is a duel again, if you accpet to duel is because you want, and dont care if you lose.All of this arguments has no base and are incredible selfish.
Again being an objective person . . . . give a a real reason we dont have a duel system like almost every good MMO in the market.
You’re not being objective…you’re being subjective. Even just the comment add dueling like all good MMOs, what if people like me don’t like MMOs at all, and what if dueling is part of what we don’t like about those MMOs. And what if the reason we don’t like dueling is because it’s inviting people to misbehave.
You don’t give ammunition to certain types of people and expect them not to use it. I admit my opinion on this is entirely subjective.
Yours is too.
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
actually, this thread is full of them, you just refuse to recognize any.
I will make you a list of the arguments you mention:
1.- I dont want a guy asking to duel while iam doing my archives
- Answer: Auto decline duel function.
2.- I dont want to listen a guy calling me a coward because i decline a duel.
*Answer: Block messages from him. there is a lot of trash talk already, even in WvW with dances and laughing animations.3.- There is no balance for 1v1 dueling.
*Answer: The game right know is well balanced (is not suppous never to be a balance between 1v1, it depends of the profession and the build to counter).Also it is just a duel, you will not lose anything!! is just to have fun and test build with ur friend and guild members.
4.- There will be QQ in the forum for the balance in dueling.
*Answer: there is already a lot of QQ nerf this nerf that post. It is a duel again, if you accpet to duel is because you want, and dont care if you lose.All of this arguments has no base and are incredible selfish.
Again being an objective person . . . . give a a real reason we dont have a duel system like almost every good MMO in the market.
You’re not being objective…you’re being subjective. Even just the comment add dueling like all good MMOs, what if people like me don’t like MMOs at all, and what if dueling is part of what we don’t like about those MMOs. And what if the reason we don’t like dueling is because it’s inviting people to misbehave.
You don’t give ammunition to certain types of people and expect them not to use it. I admit my opinion on this is entirely subjective.
Yours is too.
He’s trying to be reasonable.
And what if the reason we don’t like dueling is because it’s inviting people to misbehave.
This seems unreasonable.
Vayne.8563 u r subjective, u are trying to tell us that people will get crazy in the game saying bad works and offending everywhere.
A chaos.
Thats not true, bad people is every where in any mechanic, have u been in WvW, there is a lot of trash talk and offensive actions . . . do you see GW2 burning for this?
Iam being objective i put my reasons in the table, reason that i explain myslef instead of just saying . . . i dont like duel . . . because duel are . . . . i just dont like.
I’m still waiting for dueling… It’s been a core mechanic in most past MMO’s and annoying I still can’t do it.
1.- I dont want a guy asking to duel while iam doing my archives
- Answer: Auto decline duel function.
Well, the most basic system to add is the auto decline of course.
2.- I dont want to listen a guy calling me a coward because i decline a duel.
*Answer: Block messages from him. there is a lot of trash talk already, even in WvW with dances and laughing animations.
There is a BIG difference between dancing and laughing and constant pming for duels. A very BIG difference. Someone can PM from any distance or even on different servers, you can’t exactly dance on your opponent’s face when he is in a different part of WvW. Auto-block anyone with “Duel: ON” could solve this problem.
3.- There is no balance for 1v1 dueling.
*Answer: The game right know is well balanced (is not suppous never to be a balance between 1v1, it depends of the profession and the build to counter).
No it’s not well balanced, at all. Adding another parameter to balancing won’t help, it will make things worse.
Also it is just a duel, you will not lose anything!! is just to have fun and test build with ur friend and guild members.
Then do it an Arena designed for duels. I have no problems with duels, I don’t understand, at all, the desire for open world duel anywhere.
4.- There will be QQ in the forum for the balance in dueling.
*Answer: there is already a lot of QQ nerf this nerf that post. It is a duel again, if you accpet to duel is because you want, and dont care if you lose.
So since we have loads of QQ let’s add some more?
Still, Dueling should be in an arena (not the custom ones of course) and not in the open world. Dueling in the Open World can cause other issues too:
What happens if people decide to duel in the middle of an event? I would certainly prefer if those guys were helping with the event instead of killing each other right next to the mobs.
What happens if people decide to duel next to a vista or poi? Imagine going around to explore and see all the particles and random duels happening around… not a pretty sight.
Imagine going around to explore and see all the particles and random duels happening around… not a pretty sight.
I agree. Dead open world zones should stay dead.
Dueling is nothing more than 1v1 which is PvP and should stay in the PvP areas or have a dueling arena and NOT be put in a PvE environment.
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Because DEAR GOD, the two shouldn’t be mixed together…EVER! (See WvW)
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The game is well balanced, iam high rank level in SPVP and y play a lot of WvW also.
The people that say that game is not well balanced is people that dont get that they have a roll in this game.
Is the same people asking for a nerf every single patch because they dont know how to play.
I can tell you right now that every profession can beat any profession with the right skills and builds.
Anyways, i agree with the instance exclusive for dueling in PVE gear, i really dont care that much the open world, i just want a tool like every other MMo to test and play against my friends.
So…. I have to ask… after reading so many people using this reason for wanting duels….
Why do you need to test your PVE gear in a PvP setting? You can get all the same skins in PvP. Why does PvE gear matter unless you are doing it solely to have a gear advantage over your opponent (ie Ascended vs Rares).
Edit: And you can do that crap in WvW anyway. (PvE gear vs PvE gear)
We can duel in WvW, but not with our friends on the same server or without the risk of interference.
And as been said quite a few times Spvp is a different thing entirely.
Yes, we could technically buy a server put a password on it and invite a friend, but that means gold out of our pockets, completely different stats due to the gear being completely different and it is just a pain in the kitten when you consider most MMOs have such an easy to use feature such as /duel.
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1.- We can use the armor we love and craft to fight. A lo of people thinks the same, most of the good spvp armor are on a very high lvl, if you dont know how hard is to get lvl 80 in spvp u will never get this.
This right here is false. With the achievement chests you’re now being handed free high level sPvP skins. Furthermore, tPvP wins reward you with the Arah and CoE skins as well. It’s really not hard to get good skins in sPvP.
The game is well balanced, iam high rank level in SPVP and y play a lot of WvW also.
The people that say that game is not well balanced is people that dont get that they have a roll in this game.
Not only is this incredibly subjective, it’s quite false. The game’s balance, right now, is nowhere near where it needs to be for any type of esport recognition. If the game were at all balanced, you’d be seeing vastly different build/team comps in the meta, each equally effective. Right now, this is not the case. There’s maybe a handful of team comps competitive at the highest levels.
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I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
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I still have not seen an answer to the question, “Why would ANet implement a free feature that would compete with an existing paid feature.” I suspect if dueling is to ever get beyond the wish stage, that question has to be answered. Don’t think “goodness of their hearts,” think “money.”
That is not really something on player’s minds, but you do have a point.
Possible benefits to Anets bottom line can be from;
Player retention – The more things a game has to offer means more things the player can do before burning out.
More gold being sunk into TP – The hardcore duelers are gonna need food and oils to be at the top of their game.
More gem store purchases – Player made tourneys with gifted gem store prizes or even someone just hanging out watching some duels and thinking “Wow, that guy has some sweet armor. I think I’ll buy that.”
I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
I wouldn’t say Scrambles was putting his best foot forward because like many people in this thread (On both sides.) he couldn’t really care less about what the other side thinks.
While he did exaggerate and generalize, you are kinda doing the same thing. He thinks people who are against dueling are cowardly care bears and you think people for dueling are kitten-sphincters.
But just like every online community (Facebook, Website comment sections, and yes MMORPG’s) there will be trolls and people you would just rather not talk to, but this is why we have block features. So, ignore the trolls whether they are in game or on the forums, and never let them be the reason you don’t enjoy something. Especially when you can instantly banish them from your life.
As I’ve said before, I am not opposed to dueling with some restrictions.
However, why the disingenuous statements that players will not abuse dueling to the detriment of others? Some players are going to find ways to abuse any system that is put into an online game. Denying this means that you have your head buried firmly in the sand. Of course some people will be kittenheads — it’s what some people do.
On the other hand, since some players are going to try to find ways to abuse any system put into a game, designing systems to reduce the options to grief is often going to be a better answer than not developing the system in the first place.
And the proponents of dueling continue to ignore the more important barrier to the implementation of dueling.
And the proponents of dueling continue to ignore the more important barrier to the implementation of dueling.
May I ask what this is? I did address why this could help Anets bottom line a few posts up.
But honestly I don’t think duels will be a huge hit to custom arenas market since arenas use Spvp stats and are not even made for duels.
Yes, it might make a few servers shut down, but I can count the number of dueling servers I see up at any given time and not run out of fingers.
The biggest hit I can see will be to the windmill WvW dueling crowd, but I think those people would love to guest to a specific server and fight club the night away. While not taking up WvW slots that could be used for people actually WvWing.
(edited by Banono.4597)
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
actually, this thread is full of them, you just refuse to recognize any.
I will make you a list of the arguments you mention:
1.- I dont want a guy asking to duel while iam doing my archives
- Answer: Auto decline duel function.
2.- I dont want to listen a guy calling me a coward because i decline a duel.
*Answer: Block messages from him. there is a lot of trash talk already, even in WvW with dances and laughing animations.Grow up, you can ignore him and never see him again, /ignore would and should cancel the ability to duel someone. I’ve seen woman stalked and harassed over games and that is nothing compared to this.
3.- There is no balance for 1v1 dueling.
*Answer: The game right know is well balanced (is not suppous never to be a balance between 1v1, it depends of the profession and the build to counter).Also it is just a duel, you will not lose anything!! is just to have fun and test build with ur friend and guild members.
There is no balance in 1v1 dueling, but it is fun.
4.- There will be QQ in the forum for the balance in dueling.
*Answer: there is already a lot of QQ nerf this nerf that post. It is a duel again, if you accpet to duel is because you want, and dont care if you lose.All of this arguments has no base and are incredible selfish.
Yes, just like WoW/Rift/Eq/Every other game with dueling in it, the forums are littered with posts to balance for dueling. – Sarcasm. <3
Again being an objective person . . . . give a a real reason we dont have a duel system like almost every good MMO in the market.
It sounds like your just a selfish player who wants everything /his/ way.
I will state my opinion. <3
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I wouldn’t say Scrambles was putting his best foot forward because like many people in this thread (On both sides.) he couldn’t really care less about what the other side thinks.
While he did exaggerate and generalize, you are kinda doing the same thing. He thinks people who are against dueling are cowardly care bears and you think people for dueling are kitten-sphincters.
To be honest, I’ve used 1v1 and group PvP as part of RP events in other games. When done well, it’s a great addition to it. So, I know for a fact that not all people that would want or use dueling are kitten-sphincters.
However, I’m not the one here asking for something. They are. They’re trying to claim that it won’t have a negative impact on the community to add it, but they can’t seem to do so without some of them throwing insults around. It really says something, doesn’t it?
Still… if the stuff I spelled out in my first post in this thread is followed, I guess it won’t kill me to go back to being neutral on the idea. You’re right that there’s bad stuff coming from both sides, and maybe being able to bash on each other will distracts some of the more annoying ones that currently bother people.
I’ll give it a reserved “maybe”, and likely exit this thread for good, now.
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Open World Dueling is something i’ve always loved, I used to love watching the hundreds of videos of people in SWG dueling on mountaintops and other places, it added to the environment as well.
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I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
I’m flattered you think i’m a pro dueler. I would love to hear your suggestion that my incendiary post prevented you from providing for us. And i apologize for that one time in WoW someone sent a multiple duel requests even though it was obvious you didn’t want to duel. I know it was probably a harrowing experience.
I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
I wouldn’t say Scrambles was putting his best foot forward because like many people in this thread (On both sides.) he couldn’t really care less about what the other side thinks.
While he did exaggerate and generalize, you are kinda doing the same thing. He thinks people who are against dueling are cowardly care bears and you think people for dueling are kitten-sphincters.
But just like every online community (Facebook, Website comment sections, and yes MMORPG’s) there will be trolls and people you would just rather not talk to, but this is why we have block features. So, ignore the trolls whether they are in game or on the forums, and never let them be the reason you don’t enjoy something. Especially when you can instantly banish them from your life.
This, exactly this.
It is really funny, in WvW my enemies give me party to trash talk on me.
Because i accepted the party.
It is exactly the same mechanic with a duel.
So should we remove WvW because people ask us to party and trash talk all the time?
So should we remove WvW because a zerg of 20 people killed me and danced and laughed on my corp and that makes me feel sad?
And the proponents of dueling continue to ignore the more important barrier to the implementation of dueling.
May I ask what this is? I did address why this could help Anets bottom line a few posts up.
But honestly I don’t think duels will be a huge hit to custom arenas market since arenas use Spvp stats and are not even made for duels.
Yes, it might make a few servers shut down, but I can count the number of dueling servers I see up at any given time and not run out of fingers.
The biggest hit I can see will be to the windmill WvW dueling crowd, but I think those people would love to guest to a specific server and fight club the night away. While not taking up WvW slots that could be used for people actually WvWing.
That is not really something on player’s minds, but you do have a point.
Possible benefits to Anets bottom line can be from;
Player retention – The more things a game has to offer means more things the player can do before burning out.
More gold being sunk into TP – The hardcore duelers are gonna need food and oils to be at the top of their game.
More gem store purchases – Player made tourneys with gifted gem store prizes or even someone just hanging out watching some duels and thinking “Wow, that guy has some sweet armor. I think I’ll buy that.”
It took me quite some time to post the question the second time due to things pulling me away from the keyboard. Thus, I missed your thoughts — which btw are plausible and well reasoned.
Yes, I am sure the block feature and an auto-decline will be added. (And you should start with it.)
Please don’t lock people out of features because of selfishness <3
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You didint read well then,
I skimmed. You don’t need to be a kitten.
1.- We can use the armor we love and craft to fight. A lo of people thinks the same, most of the good spvp armor are on a very high lvl, if you dont know how hard is to get lvl 80 in spvp u will never get this.
Semi-valid reason. Although you’d never use PvE gear in structured PvP for obvious reasons. WvW suits this need.
Yes, the nicer armors are a kitten to get in sPvP, I have looked, but I guess I can understand it. Gives you something to works towards in that aspect of the game, as it is an entirely different animal than pve and wvw.
2.- We can fight with our guild members to have fun or to test my build against another build i will like to learn how to counter in WvW.
Custom arenas suit this need. However, I do feel they need a ‘pve gear option’ added to them so you can enter in your pve gear if you so choose.
3.- SPVP and WvW is veryyyyy different, in WvW you have food, more space, big zergs, siege weapons, cap points, roaming . . . etc.
Indeed they are. I’ll not argue that point. I will point out that open world dueling and arena dueling would be different animals to those as well.
4.- No one actually wants to bulling u with a asended gear (the stats are almost the same anyways), YOU WILL HAVE A CHOICE TO AUTO DECLINE FIGHTS!
Auto decline or not, you may not want to bully people; however the same cannot be side for others. You can only speak for yourself, even if others you know ‘claim’ to not want to bully either, there is always the possibility that they may. You can’t really speak for them as their conduct is their own.
Again there is not yet a valid argument to not have a duel system.
There are valid arguments on both sides, although some simply discount the opposing views because ‘my opinion is better than yours’ in so many cases.
As I have said repeatedly, I truly have no issue with having dueling in the game; however I oppose open world dueling due to the attitudes and type of people it attracts. Leave pvp in the mists. If you want to duel in pve gear, with food, whatever, let that be an option on the arena.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Now that this is thrown into this subforum. I have to ask. Do Devs ever respond to suggestion threads?
Now that this is thrown into this subforum. I have to ask. Do Devs ever respond to suggestion threads?
never seen it….
Now that this is thrown into this subforum. I have to ask. Do Devs ever respond to suggestion threads?
never seen it….
Sigh Oh well… I guess maybe if we keep this giant mega thread alive someone in a fancy suit at Anet might see it and get an idea and bring it up in a meeting.
To any fancy suited executives reading this, feel free to mine all the sweet ideas from this thread bring it up at the board meeting and maybe even add some money making gem store item like a “Licence to duel” for 800 gems and bask in the glory.
It’s okay! We won’t tell them where you got the idea, and we will love you for it.
Now that this is thrown into this subforum. I have to ask. Do Devs ever respond to suggestion threads?
never seen it….
Sigh Oh well… I guess maybe if we keep this giant mega thread alive someone in a fancy suit at Anet might see it and get an idea and bring it up in a meeting.
To any fancy suited executives reading this, feel free to mine all the sweet ideas from this thread bring it up at the board meeting and maybe even add some money making gem store item like a “Licence to duel” for 800 gems and bask in the glory.
It’s okay! We won’t tell them where you got the idea, and we will love you for it.
i think i love you!
How I would want it to be implemented (because I’m not reading 19 pages of trashtalk to get at the posts):
- When initiated, a glowing banner drops from the sky and lands roughly between the two players and starts a 3-2-1-FIGHT countdown. There is a radius of 1000 units, so from one end of the circle to the other is 2000 units. If a player steps outside, they have a ONE SECOND warning to get back in, otherwise they immediately lose. Can also work as a ‘ring out’ function. Want to avoid that? Stay close to the banner!
- Duels last for 2 minutes. If there is no clear winner at the end, then it goes to judgement time, and works out a winner via health left, number of attacks attempted and landed, successful dodges, etc.
- Both players will be set to the same level as the zone area they’re fighting in, even if higher or lower than the zone (such as higher levels normally being set to +1 of the zone they’re in).
- Both players will be immune to buffs from outside players or party players. In fact, both sides will have stuff like might and swiftness buffs removed as the fight starts. Food and drink buffs, not sure on that. Probably be removed as well.
- In options, have ability to ignore duel requests.
Yes! Implement a duel system where pvp players can use their gears +consumables in a matter that doesn’t affect the straight pve lovers ^^
Heidia- The elementalist is the #1 most OP profession in this game since beta!
A bunch of us wishing for dueling were probably so trolled by the latest Queen’s Jubilee announcement lol T-T
A bunch of us wishing for dueling were probably so trolled by the latest Queen’s Jubilee announcement lol T-T
Yes it seems like a big troll with the solo que in pvp. We still need an answer PvE wise though.
play hard , go pro.
A bunch of us wishing for dueling were probably so trolled by the latest Queen’s Jubilee announcement lol T-T
Yes, it is a complete nonsense spvp towards all of us that want a dueling system with our own gears and consumables.
Heidia- The elementalist is the #1 most OP profession in this game since beta!
Open world duels +1 we really need that
A bunch of us wishing for dueling were probably so trolled by the latest Queen’s Jubilee announcement lol T-T
I know I was for a second.
Another hint for any fancy suited Anet employees reading this: You can have a LS update and adding a dueling feature could be the big draw for it. Make up some jive that it is a festival to honor Balthazar. Add some extra fluff like a couple new weapon skins and some mini game maybe and you got your self an update.
Would you like to see open world duels ?
What futures would you like to se ? What are the big no nos ? And what is
a must have for all the duels ?
I dont mind that BUT i would love one option if that get implemented.
Auto decline duel.
I know dueling can be fun, i do some in every mmos with some friends but most of the time, i dont care for a level max coming near my noob and ask me for a duel to one shot me. Some people can really get annoying with that.
So if this is added, i want a feature that let me not get annoyed by it.
I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
I’m flattered you think i’m a pro dueler. I would love to hear your suggestion that my incendiary post prevented you from providing for us. And i apologize for that one time in WoW someone sent a multiple duel requests even though it was obvious you didn’t want to duel. I know it was probably a harrowing experience.
For my personal experience, make it every single time I logged on, regardless of what I was doing, from when I first got the game, till 3 years later, when I just stopped playing Blizzard products entirely. We’re not talking one or two people, or one or two requests; we’re talking about literally dozens of whiners per hour, any hour of the day. Declining people politely would result in such a kitten-fest that it was almost comedic.
This has resulted in my mental image for duelists all universally being the angry german kid.
Basically, we’re talking about a feature that exists purely for people to grief others, either through victory, thus proving they have a bigger e-kitten than others, or through harassment.
So yeah, no.
I came back to this thread to make a suggestion that I think would remove several of the problems people have with the side effects of the duel going on.
Instead, I find this:
dueling would be sweet. But too many people in this game cant be bothered to interact with others and would prefer it to be a single player game under the veil of MMO.
All the arguments against dueling can be attributed to carebears, who’s roots can be traced back to that one time an undead rogue ganked them in STV and now they get PTSD flashbacks whenever confronted with any form of competition in an MMO.
It’s sad but it seems people would rather play with each other less and just spend money on a cash shop in order to also play the game less.
If THIS is the kind of stuff we’re getting when the pro-duelers are trying to put their best foot forward, then it’s clear they’ll be total kitten-sphincters should dueling ever go live. This isn’t the first such insult in the thread, either.
Change my vote to a very strong “NO” to the idea. If they’re not staying civil here when they need to make a good impression, there’s no hope they’ll behave when they’ve gotten what they wanted.
I’m flattered you think i’m a pro dueler. I would love to hear your suggestion that my incendiary post prevented you from providing for us. And i apologize for that one time in WoW someone sent a multiple duel requests even though it was obvious you didn’t want to duel. I know it was probably a harrowing experience.
For my personal experience, make it every single time I logged on, regardless of what I was doing, from when I first got the game, till 3 years later, when I just stopped playing Blizzard products entirely. We’re not talking one or two people, or one or two requests; we’re talking about literally dozens of whiners per hour, any hour of the day. Declining people politely would result in such a kitten-fest that it was almost comedic.
This has resulted in my mental image for duelists all universally being the angry german kid.
Basically, we’re talking about a feature that exists purely for people to grief others, either through victory, thus proving they have a bigger e-kitten than others, or through harassment.
So yeah, no.
Unless you were going around in the capital saying “I AM THE BEST AROUND! NONE OF YOU CAN EVER TAKE ME DOWN!” I doubt you would have the dozen of duel requests an hour as you claim. I am pretty sure the majority of people reading this thread has played a game with such a feature and has not even had close to the same experience you claim.
I am sure one or two people a day asking you for a duel might of happened, and out of those a few were kittenheads about it, but your exaggeration really takes away from the point you are trying to make.
Banono, it’s not an exaggeration. More than anything else, it’s why I quit WoW. Regardless of what I was doing, even sitting just watching the screen having a smoke, the requests would pop, and pop, and pop. A good evening gaming for me was only having to turn down 5-6 people. A bad one would be the same person (and his entire bloody clan) spamming, continuously, till I logged off.
Maybe I just had craptastic luck with Realm selection – but for most of 3 years, that was the pattern. Log in, start to do… well, anything, really, and know that soon enough, the spam was going to start.
I’ll admit, it’s given me a heavily biased view of the pro-dueling crowd, but they worked for it. The real world equivalent would be, the second I left my front door, some kid starts going “fight me bro, fight me! you scared bro!” and if I declined, him and all his buddies would follow me, going “fight him bro! you scared bro!” Until I went somewhere the kiddies weren’t allowed.
In game terms, GW and GW2 are where the kiddies aren’t allowed.
Banono, it’s not an exaggeration. More than anything else, it’s why I quit WoW. Regardless of what I was doing, even sitting just watching the screen having a smoke, the requests would pop, and pop, and pop. A good evening gaming for me was only having to turn down 5-6 people. A bad one would be the same person (and his entire bloody clan) spamming, continuously, till I logged off.
Maybe I just had craptastic luck with Realm selection – but for most of 3 years, that was the pattern. Log in, start to do… well, anything, really, and know that soon enough, the spam was going to start.
I’ll admit, it’s given me a heavily biased view of the pro-dueling crowd, but they worked for it. The real world equivalent would be, the second I left my front door, some kid starts going “fight me bro, fight me! you scared bro!” and if I declined, him and all his buddies would follow me, going “fight him bro! you scared bro!” Until I went somewhere the kiddies weren’t allowed.
In game terms, GW and GW2 are where the kiddies aren’t allowed.
You sir are an anomaly.
I have no reason to say you are lying, but wow… If I was in your shoes I would probably hate it too, but I can assure you that that is not the norm.
WoW has an add-on and most games have an in game auto decline feature that I think would be needed if they were to add dueling into the game. As well as Anet doing their part banning people who harass others.
So, while I can totally see why you would hate it. I hope you understand that there is a reason WoW’s community is synonyms for childish MMO behavior.
Just wanted it out there, is all. Besides, you’ll have to admit, the behaviour of the people who are pro-dueling in this thread is more in line with my experience than not. 19 pages, with condescension and insult coming from the pro-duelers at anyone who dares have an opposing opinion.
For my purposes, from my personal experiences, that tells me everything I need to know about the people asking for dueling.
If they had a separate arena at each major town
If auto-decline was the default setting
If spamming someone with requests got them the 3 day suspension that other harassment does,
then I might think there was something reasonable about the requests.
Exactly like this please:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGQSm6DwMaA
Oh btw, if you could read the chat system in that video you would see it announces the winner to the world. I.e. “Regenc wins in a battle against Ice of Dragons”
Regenc, that works perfectly for people like me, who don’t want to be bothered by it at all in my gameplay. +1 dude.