Guild Wars 2

I second this, also op maybe you want to post this in the suggestions forum, since different devs only reads certain parts of the forum.

Simply put, they need to move AWAY from the traditional way of nerfing things and do things differently by buffing things.

I got guild wars 2 because I read that it does things differently from traditional mmos, but it’s saddening to see all those nerfs with every patch which is exactly what other mmos do before their player base turns south.

Good idea, but yeah ‘Suggestions’ is a more appropriate place.
Bonus exp with bonus drop rates would sure help move the players around.

@ ZPlus : Sometimes, nerfs are the only way to go without changing everything. If you observe that a certain skill does way much more damage than intended, it’s better to nerf these values than to buff all other skill’s damage and character’s life.
This is a simple and exagerated example, but still it gives the general idea.

This suggestion however does not require to change huge amount of existing settings (I think …), and it is an excellent one IMO.

I like this idea because it does not benefit farming/grinding and instead encourages you to travel, and populate the less populated areas.

I though this was happening already, because most of the greens I got in lower level areas came from creatures that gave maximum bonus exp.

If this is not happening, it could be a good idea. Who knows, maybe we’ll get ‘explorer-hunters’ that travel to the most remote spots to find a creature that was alive for a long time.

I agree, great idea. Anet has been using the stick a little bit too much and needs to start working with the carrot.

Just when you thought the world was safe -
A nice happy friendly place.

Little did you realize,
hiding and living was your great demise.

IR – the magic of increasing return.
IR – we’re gonna hunt you down and let you burn.

Never again will any little ogre or hydra or skritt,
be spared from our loot filled combat trip.

IR – the power to get more drops
IR – never stopping the murder bots

Do not worry you cute little bunny -
After we get you we’ll go loot your mommy.

I would skin a spark if I could –
In the rain or in the dark, and if I should –
I would find go into the woods and find leet plants –
For it would give my caster some new epic pants.

IR – the longer you stay alive
IR – the more you are my loot lust prize.

I think this is a brilliant idea if it’s not in practise already. DR is nothing but an inconvenience, but IR would really convince me to explore the map on a regular basis.

Sounds like a good idea in my head!

Oh, this is absolutely fantastic idea!

In addition tho how about crank up the chance for rare loot with each player the mob has killed? Not too much and capped to 2-3 players, otherways we would get some suicide squads having people die for the mob and then kill it. (In Soviet Russia, the mobs farm you!) But it would be nice little detail.

I think this would not work because everybody will be killing everything meaning no monsters will gain that extra XP or reward so it might as well not be implemented.

Paulus magintie.7432:

I think this would not work because everybody will be killing everything meaning no monsters will gain that extra XP or reward so it might as well not be implemented.

Which means that people would be exploring, not camping one event.

I notice as I go through areas that I’ll kill 10 mobs with no bonus, one with a 5XP bonus, then one with a 36 XP bonus, then back to 6s or less.

In other words, people have been working that area but they missed one mob and I got it.

It’s just a fun addition to exploring and hunting odd corners of the map.

This is actually brilliant and if tweaked right will probably be introduced in-game. Maybe the OP will have a special mob named after him and everything :P

Colonel Kernel.7506:

Which means that people would be exploring, not camping one event.

As an explorer I like the idea but even 100% MR boost would still have a lower chance of getting good items than mass killing mobs. Exploring and killing 100 mobs vs killing 500 in mass events.

You wouldn’t implement increasing rewards for the rewards themselves. You implement the incentive to encourage certain behaviors. In this case, that’s encouraging people to explore the nooks and crannies in the game and kill the stuff there. I that’s the goal, this idea is brilliant.

As an explorer, I like this.

This would be an excellent incentive for not farming the same routes ad nauseum.

+1

I often target the rarely-killed enemies just for the bonus experience. It would be great if there was even more incentive. I fully support this.

Interesting idea.

What about 80ies? I have one 80level character and I like to explore and I’d like to reveal and explore every corner of the map. XP reward is not interesting for me so there’s no need to kill the mobs untill there’ll be something like cumulative percentage of rare drop (not much, I’d expect up to 1%) for 80lev characters.
Sorry I’m justta stupid girl but I ment something very simple like
If character_level < 80 then XP_reward
Else rare_item_chance
End If

See? Even I can do that

Interesting concept, only problem I see with it is that it has the potential to work against the meta event mechanic. People may avoid pooling in zones for events because they’d rather kill singular mobs around the world.

Awesome idea. Completely reasonable.

Its a really kitten good idea.

I agree with the opposite of DR, I frankly find DR irritating when I want to play the game my way, I’m punished for farming. Anywho, I think it should be specific areas, mobs, or some type of short time limitation otherwise it’s “oh hunt the entire world and find the benefit mob because it’s not limited”, in that regard many may say “oh well that takes too long.” Add in a potential for specific days/times that guarantee different increases. Such as one day its skelks across the world, the next day it’s sharks and barracuda, then boars. The incentive would be find these things across the world for that little increase in drops. If it’s generalized as specific mob types, you could even go to say “lizards” or “marsupials” or “fish” and of those types one specific area/mob would be the benefit.

Heh would be cool if this was also the case for nodes. At the very least, one would yield less of a harvested item if the nodes were heavily frequented but nodes in areas that don’t get picked on may yield upgraded materials.

I’m curious though how much server traffic it’d take to keep track of each individual mob/node to tell if it’s been encountered in the last hour or the last day…

This would be a really cool way to get people to spread out and populate all those different maps more. It would also make a good solution to the ongoing MF debate: instead of tying it to equipment tie it to the enemies. But it would also have to be significant enough to make it worthwhile. So something like a 500% ceiling, otherwise it wouldn’t be worth the time to go to far corners of the world to find enemies. It would take a single die with some awfully big numbers on it to overcome a whole handful of regular dice.

Now combine it with something that rewards people for teaming up and taking out those non world boss group events and the game will become a much more satisfying experience. Like a genuine party size based loot reward bonus?

Really sounds like a good idea.

Your IR Idea is nice, and if the Devs were to make it a reality I can see it being something like this;

Mob lives
0Mins to 2Hours = Normal Return
2h:15m to 3hr = 10% MF, 15% Gold Boost
3h:15m to 4hr = 20% MF, 35% Gold Boost
4h:15m to 5hr = 35% MF, 50% Gold Boost <— I would say this is the average that Mobs Live
6h:15m to 7hr = 55% MF, 75% Gold Boost
8h:15m to 9hr = 65% MF, 90% Gold Boost
10h:15m to 11hr = 100% MF, 115% Gold Boost – 1xGuarrenteed Rare+

Well you would have to make sure that it does not apply to non-aggressives. Because let’s face it, the last thing we need is people getting precursors off of Moas. Or Frogs.

sirsquishy.8531:

Your IR Idea is nice, and if the Devs were to make it a reality I can see it being something like this;

Mob lives
0Mins to 2Hours = Normal Return
2h:15m to 3hr = 10% MF, 15% Gold Boost
3h:15m to 4hr = 20% MF, 35% Gold Boost
4h:15m to 5hr = 35% MF, 50% Gold Boost <— I would say this is the average that Mobs Live
6h:15m to 7hr = 55% MF, 75% Gold Boost
8h:15m to 9hr = 65% MF, 90% Gold Boost
10h:15m to 11hr = 100% MF, 115% Gold Boost – 1xGuarrenteed Rare+

The rare is too much and I’ll tell you how I can exploit it. Lets say I get into an overflow, either from joining in during peak hours for a dragon event or artificially. I can stand there akitten overnight and pop up to find that every mob in my private zone now drops a rare. The MF and gold boosts will just need to be it.

Otherwise this is a great idea. It sounds easily implemented and it rewards exploration. The only question is how you want it to scale.

/signed

Something imo that should have been in the game from the start on in that way

Good idea but I have one thought that may spoil it. If nobody is in an area are all the mobs there or do the “spawn in” only when people are in the zone? I mention this because many games only spawn in the mobs when people are in the area to avoid the extra server hit they take by spawning mobs in empty zones.

I was also considering that fact. It might require a lot more server resources if it’s tracking the lifespan of every mob IF there are mobs spawned while no PC is within spawn range.

Leo G.4501:

I was also considering that fact. It might require a lot more server resources if it’s tracking the lifespan of every mob IF there are mobs spawned while no PC is within spawn range.

They wouldn’t have to track anything that they’re not already tracking to calculate bonus XP.

i think this would create third party timer that just say to people how much time that boss has been up, actually it could lead to not killing some mob just so they can give more exp and loot.
no problem with more exp since you are getting exp for everything but chatting, but when mobs increase loot… well it would be a matter of timer for harvesting purposes

sorry if i rained on this parade but unless we grow some common sense in the community we can’t have nice things i guess

Looks like a great idea to me.

On the getting extra loot for a mob that’s killed players… the way I’d probably run it is that if you’re downed by a mob, you get a little bit of extra coin for defeating it. Not enough to make up for the cost of repairs, but just a touch of compensation.

Marrrcy.7391:

What about 80ies? I have one 80level character and I like to explore and I’d like to reveal and explore every corner of the map. XP reward is not interesting for me so there’s no need to kill the mobs untill there’ll be something like cumulative percentage of rare drop (not much, I’d expect up to 1%) for 80lev characters.
Sorry I’m justta stupid girl but I ment something very simple like
If character_level < 80 then XP_reward
Else rare_item_chance
End If

See? Even I can do that

80’s continue to level, accumulated skill points have many uses.

Amadan.9451:

i think this would create third party timer that just say to people how much time that boss has been up, actually it could lead to not killing some mob just so they can give more exp and loot.
no problem with more exp since you are getting exp for everything but chatting, but when mobs increase loot… well it would be a matter of timer for harvesting purposes

sorry if i rained on this parade but unless we grow some common sense in the community we can’t have nice things i guess

I would say that’s outside the scope of the proposal, except, well, it’s like looking at the forest and saying, “But then people will just look for the biggest trees. It’ll never work.”

The idea isn’t just for bosses. Those rarely live long enough to qualify. Have you ever received bonus XP (not event XP) from, say, the Shadow Behemoth?

The proposed system would apply to all the random creatures of the world, just like bonus XP.

Player Character.9467:

80’s continue to level, accumulated skill points have many uses.

If you’re not going for a legendary weapon, they eventually become inconsequential. I have 292 unused skill points on my guardian and a few more spread amongst my other four level-80 characters.