Guild Wars 2

Another mounts thread. Imagine that.

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

Another mounts thread. Imagine that.

Yeah, yeah, I know. I said the same thing when the idea struck me and I thought it worth putting out there.

But did you READ it? Trust me, I’m not a mounts fanboy. (I said several times that I don’t expect to see mounts in GW2 proper). But it is a way to give the mount-a-holics what they want with ZERO impact on the rest of the game. And possibly TONS of impact on GW3 (when they start thinking along those lines.)

Didn’t WoW have a expansion where flying mounts were limited to that zone? Then WoW players started asking for using flying mounts anywhere. So they made a expansion to let players do that.

Pro mount players will never be satisfied with a few zones.

Mounts and GW don’t go together. Guild Wars has never used mounts. I think that makes Anet unique and innovative. They think of different ways to travel quick (waypoints). I wouldn’t want the Dominion of Wings ruined like that. I personally hope that they will introduce a new race (Tengu) as a playable race. So, that would make the Dominion into a city or newbie area.

Mounts shouldn’t be counted as a travelling method, but merely as cosmetic.

Firstly, the argument that waypoints make them redundant is horribly flawed, or simply demonstrates straight up ignorance to the point of ridiculousness.

Tell me, how do waypoints give the player the ability to…

a) obtain a new collection
b) look cool riding on one of those new collections

If you can answer that, then your first statement is not longer idiotic.

Thats completely ignoring the fact that you are trying to state that people NEVER have to run anywhere in this game. I am getting sick of hearing such a stupid counter-argument to mounts.

The only valid point is that they would get too big and cover NPCs, which imo, is just as ridiculous as the points made above, as Charr’s and Norns can do the same thing, as could a mob of players.

Coopziana.1802:

frOst.2198:

Firstly, the argument that waypoints make them redundant is horribly flawed, or simply demonstrates straight up ignorance to the point of ridiculousness.

Tell me, how do waypoints give the player the ability to…

a) obtain a new collection
b) look cool riding on one of those new collections

If you can answer that, then your first statement is not longer idiotic.

Thats completely ignoring the fact that you are trying to state that people NEVER have to run anywhere in this game. I am getting sick of hearing such a stupid counter-argument to mounts.

The only valid point is that they would get too big and cover NPCs, which imo, is just as ridiculous as the points made above, as Charr’s and Norns can do the same thing, as could a mob of players.

Ok darling, get off your soap box, quit your hissy fit and perhaps read past the first line of the post!

It’s just my person feeling that I don’t want to see mounts around the world…

Try reading the suggestion instead of reading things you deem as a personal insult!

The suggestion is fine, but don’t start your suggestion bashing other peoples desire to have mounts with reasoning that is completely ignorant and unfounded. It doesn’t make you look ‘cool’ or as ‘one of the crowd.’ It immediately nullifies your opinion to half your audience (assuming for a minute half your audience wants mounts).

Also, in regards to your suggestion, as I implied, people like the idea of collecting mounts and being able to work hard to obtain and show off something that others don’t have yet.

While this could be done in your raceway; if it doesn’t offer enough of an incentive, then no one would use it, and thus, no one would be able to show off their mount.

We have seen players on broom sticks and players traveling underground, so I am wondering if there is a plan to release mounts for players to ride? It wouldn’t need to be a new creature either. there are a lot of creatures in game that could be used for this purpose.

i would love mounts as well. Not flying mounts though because the game would kinda be messed up with flying mounts. It would give us something else to work towards for end game and it will also help in wvw map travel

They should move faster but in order to attack you have to dismount.

I’d LOVE this. Like stated above, doesn’t have to be new creatures, there’s plenty of mount-worthy creatures in game already. The regular player skill speed boost would be enough to be on the mount. And of course using skills gets you dismounted. But please make it so being attacked does NOT dismount you. Thanks.

zerotwo.4731:

They should move faster but in order to attack you have to dismount.

yes of course. Just like WOW. I dont see why so many people dont want them. They could come in handy and give us something else to do.

There’s already a thread on this. Use the kitten search function and stop being so lazy.

Firefly.5982:

I’d LOVE this. Like stated above, doesn’t have to be new creatures, there’s plenty of mount-worthy creatures in game already. The regular player skill speed boost would be enough to be on the mount. And of course using skills gets you dismounted. But please make it so being attacked does NOT dismount you. Thanks.

well if you cant be dismounted by being attacked you could just run by the enemy. It should dismount you but not instantly. It should take a few hits or a certain percent of damage to dismount you.

uknortherner.2670:

There’s already a thread on this. Use the kitten search function and stop being so lazy.

OOPS! Its the forum police!!
Relax, it hasn’t been discussed in a while and I just checked a few pages to see. Linking it would have been a more constructive approach then trolling my post.

I’ve wanted this as well. I’ve always been the one to collect mounts and work towards them. It would be cool to collect mounts. Not to mention getting people to explore around more, instead of just teleporting all over the place. If I had the choice to get out a mount that makes me move faster to stay in the world, or teleport to a waypoint with coin, a mount would always win.

You will see more small cosmetic mounts like broomstick, and tunneling device. Maybe with fun non combat abilities attached to them. Don’t expect large mounts with speed boosts!

If I was Anet I would make a cosmetic Jetpack mount.
*Hover 3 Meters off ground ability
*Invisible column under jetpack when hovering, prevents players from reaching higher places.
*hover jump ability, target area on ground must be at the same level with no gaps in ground.

Seriously, when I would expect something as Mounts, then MOUNTS, living beings and not ridiculous kittened jetpacks, that are in no way mounts.
They also do already exist as rare back pieces since F&F …

GW2 needs real mounts!
Mounts, that could as a real good prestige item and are also a nice money sink, that will cost constantly money (feeding them), so that not just everyone will run around with them so easily.

Mounts coulld be used as a great feature to improve GW2 in general with new gameplay content, mini games, achievements, rewards, crafting items/recipes and would add for RP’ers a great alternative more realistical way of traveling around in tyria, without permanently havign to use these BS of WP’s, which are mainly designed for lazy players and the stupid generation of “everything has to happen instantly-players”

Mounts would be just perfect, if they would give players while riding just a maximum 33% increase in movement speed, just like the same buff effect does.
That way players can’t be faster then players using the buff, but would be significantly faster, than just players without the buff effect running, what would make mounts just realistical! And they need to be that to become trustworthy at all, otherwise characters would look like supernatural beings with abnormal abilities able to run as fast like a mount without any help….

in regard of the implemention, Anet has up all possible options to reglementate, where Mounts could be used, and where they don’t can be used at all.

Example where Mounts shouldn’t be usable:

- Inside Towns like Divinities Reach, Lion’s Arch, Rata Sum ect.
- Dungeons
- SPvP

Where Mounts should be usable is just only PvE, outside of Towns and in WvW.
The only difference between PvE Mounts and WvW Mounts should be, that WvW-Mounts would have only a 25% Movement Increase instead of a 33% one for example, so there they would be just as fast as like a character using the permanent 25% movement speed increase skill.
another difference would be the Mount Skills. Characters would have with WvW-Mounts specific WvW Mount Skills, that replace all Weapon and Utility/Elite-Skills, while riding them, which would be different from such Mount Skills, that every class would have different ones in PvE, while riding, just to balance out WvW-Mount Skills for WvW, seeing mounts there similar like Siege Weapon Skills, that completely replace your skill bar, while using them and havign to put points into the correspondign WvW Skill Trait “Cavalry Mastery” to improve your Riding Skills in WvW

Something like that:

Untrained WvW Mounts start with 3 Skills

1= Dashing Tackle
A quick Dash Attack with your mount,m that will tackle enemies in line of sight that stand in your way at the moment away launching them and dealing damage, having for 3 seconds protection and regeneration on you and the WvW Mount healing yourself also a bit, if you hit enemies with that attack.

2 = Vital Rush
For a short time your Mount will gain more Health (increase in vitality), get more Defense and gains for 5 seconds Stability within a chance of 5% when beign hit.

3 = Stampede
You summon for 30 seconds 2 supporting Mounts at your side that run with you. While they are near you, you will create every few seconds a stomping effect while moving creating little ground shaking shockwaves that will knock enemies down, if they get hit by them.

1) Your WvW Mount gains 1% more Health and you can carry 1 Supply more, while riding.
2) Your WvW Mount gains 2% more Health and you can carry 2 Supplies more, while riding.
3) Your WvW Mount gains 3% more Health and you can carry 3 Supplies more, while riding.
4) Your WvW Mount gains 4% more Health and you can carry 4 Supplies more, while riding.
5) Your WvW Mount gains 5% more Health and you can carry 5 Supplies more, while riding.
6) The Shockwaves of Stampede will have 20% bigger range and Knockdowns last 1 second longer
7) Unlocks 4th Skill “The Calvary Comes!!”, a Support Buff that will increase temporarely the maximum Health of allies by 15% as also gives them Fury and Aegis every 10 seconds for for the next 20 seconds, starting with these buff effects right from the start on, so at Second 0, 10 and 20 allies receive Fury and Aegis.
8) Vital Rush will last now 5 seconds longer
9) Unlocks 5th Skill “Fearful Roar”
Your Mount will do a fearful roar, that will put the fear condition onto your enemies for a large AoE , as it will be so loud, that you absolutely can’t overhear that spine shivering roar
10) Your WvW Mount gains 10% more Health and you can carry 10 Supplies more, while riding.

if something like that would get implemented to WvW, omg, I’d kitten into my pants to play something like that in WvW and would love to have alot of fun with them then in WvW, especially when running around near extreme high cliffs

I think they should be fed through foraging. Instead of you collecting the items, they eat the items. It ends up being a cost for you. Having the food idea and feeding them to be able to ride is good too.

Mounts are ridiculously ugly eyesore. That lets you just ride through mobs and bypass content.

And there is no Jetpack in the game. Only a back piece that has no animations.

Onshidesigns.1069:

Mounts are ridiculously ugly eyesore. That lets you just ride through mobs and bypass content.

And there is no Jetpack in the game. Only a back piece that has no animations.

Lol, this is the most ridiculous biased against mounts posting I’ve ever read so far.
You sir, are an absolute pro arguer…… not xD

As if people in GW2 wouldn’t already permanently bypass content in the game just without any mounts being in the game, or did you never have skipped so far yet anything in dungeons? Or skipped never anything in GW1 within the Missions, Dungeons and so on ?

I see both sides of the coin for mounts. I myself would like them just for the idea of them but would want them to function like the broom in some ways.

First if you get attack you automatically get dismounted and can’t re-mount until out of combat. The one thing about the broom is the speed, I would like a mount to be as fast as a player with a speed boost.

But I also think they can be eye sores. I wouldn’t want mounts to even show up in city. They have to stay outside. I think if these can be added with mounts then there shouldn’t be a problem with having them, but if these two aren’t met then I wouldn’t want mounts in this game.

Orpheal.8263:

Onshidesigns.1069:

Mounts are ridiculously ugly eyesore. That lets you just ride through mobs and bypass content.

And there is no Jetpack in the game. Only a back piece that has no animations.

Lol, this is the most ridiculous biased against mounts posting I’ve ever read so far.
You sir, are an absolute pro arguer…… not xD

As if people in GW2 wouldn’t already permanently bypass content in the game just without any mounts being in the game, or did you never have skipped so far yet anything in dungeons? Or skipped never anything in GW1 within the Missions, Dungeons and so on ?

You want mounts with these types of abilities so you can just ride through any obstacle in your way.
1= Dashing Tackle
2 = Vital Rush
3 = Stampede

Can’t say I am to fussed about mounts. No real objections to the idea, but waypoints and speed boosting weapons/traits/utilities serve well enough for most of my characters.

All I do know is that my Asura is going to wear out the /cry emote when he has to do a jumping puzzle at the same time as mounted Charr and Norn

I have posted a few replies to such threads and I would really, really, really love mounts to get added here.
Even if we have WP’s there are players who would rather run/ride around the world, rather than just TP.
WP’s are really good when it come to events and quick travel (when one doesn’t have a lot of time to move around).
Though mounts would add something more…like adventuring…and I would certainly love to collect them.
Almost every profession in this game has a speed boost…some even have signets which increase their movement speed when equipped…Why would it bother some if mounts actually gave the same speed boost as these signets?
Also…when attacked, one could instantly dismount…just to keep some balance up.
There are many creatures in this game which could serve as mounts…Devourers, Moas, Charr ’’cars’’? Asura ’’special’’ golems…Sylvari could have some plant-like horse or dinosaur….
For my Human I would really love a horse…even if we haven’t seen any in Tyria. Norn could ride a Dolyak or a giant Bear…
Also, one would automatically dismounts in JP’s and mounts aren’t allowed in dungeons/instances.
Let’s hope we get something like this in game!

Oh look this thread again. As Anet has said several times there are no current plans for mounts. Inb4 lock.

orphel has it right big nice prestigious mounts people want to work for cool things ow and mkalafut shut up we don’t need you here if we support it enough maybe a net will see it and realize that people want this and put it in the game

ow and norn could ride bear and wolves and cool stuff like blur said ok that would be awesome ow and griffin we could all ride griffins

chris the concerer.2974:

orphel has it right big nice prestigious mounts people want to work for cool things ow and mkalafut shut up we don’t need you here if we support it enough maybe a net will see it and realize that people want this and put it in the game

Telling me to shut up really makes me want to support your cause. Anet sees every thread. All 100 of them a day about “we want mountz”. Trust me, they see them and they hate having to lock them.

They’ve said it before they’ll say it again. They have no current plans to implement mounts. If / when they do, I’m sure they’ll let everyone know in an announcement. But until then we can probably stop making these threads every 5 minutes, hm?

If you want mounts play something else. It takes at most 5 minutes at most to cross a map. Do you want animations on them too? Well that’s just great jumble up the screen some more and probably drop fps. And what about the poor Asuran? Have you noticed that in a group it’s hard to see the little guys so lets add big ol war horses or something even bigger to make the problem worse. If you weren’t so lazy and read all of the other threads you would see that just like dueling, mounts are something that runs about 50/50 with some wanting some not. The difference is that dueling can be kept to a small area of the game while your useless mounts would be all across pve and even worse if they added them to wvw. So no – no mounts.

sadly the community who plays guildwars consists of people who hate WoW & Co and therefore don’t like mounts. I personally think this are 70% of the people who are against mounts.

To me, Anet’s refusal to make them is as stupid as their attempts at balancing. People keep suggesting it because they want it. The threads will keep coming until we get what we want. It’s easy money too. Hell, if they gave the 2 that are in the game a 33% speed boosts, I would have bought one and then I would buy another as soon as I saw something I liked more. And I would keep doing that.

It’s also mind-boggling to see all the vehicles in a game with vast stretches of land just sitting idle and collecting dust. The art assets are already there! Why not use them to gain more profit? What’s even dumber than that is the fact that there are riding clothes and aviator glasses! That’s like making car seats but not cars!

Crossplay.2067:

To me, Anet’s refusal to make them is as stupid as their attempts at balancing. People keep suggesting it because they want it. The threads will keep coming until we get what we want. It’s easy money too. Hell, if they gave the 2 that are in the game a 33% speed boosts, I would have bought one and then I would buy another as soon as I saw something I liked more. And I would keep doing that.

It’s also mind-boggling to see all the vehicles in a game with vast stretches of land just sitting idle and collecting dust. The art assets are already there! Why not use them to gain more profit? What’s even dumber than that is the fact that there are riding clothes and aviator glasses! That’s like making car seats but not cars!

You’re not getting any cars outside maybe a mini game. They will most likely only be for military npc’s.

You will see more small cosmetic mounts, like ridable golems. But Anet does NOT want players riding through groups of enemies like they are not a obstacle.

While I personally don’t have a “Positive” opinion on whether or not mounts should be implemented or not. I don’t see the harm in adding something akin to mounts, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be in the game. There does seem to be a rather “Vitriol” response to anything relating to mounts in this game. I think we should look at the “Pro’s and Con’s” for mounts.

Pros: Faster ground travel (Assuming their is a added speed buff)
Cosmetic appeal. (Subjective)
Revenue for NCSOFT/Arenanet (Assuming their Gem Store items)

Cons: “May” Increase Graphic Lag. (Given that many mounts are on screen) (Turn off)
Rather useless in terms of significant travel ( Waypoints facilitate that role)
Players will skip content ( This was stated by many in the community) |IDC|

At the end of the day however I think most people who don’t want mount’s liken it too being related to the popular Mmorpg World of Warcraft. This may be a wrongfully assumed statement but somehow when I read about mounts on Guru or Reddit WoW is always brought up. And those who do want Mounts want it because “Most” Mmorpgs have it which in itself isn’t necessarily a great excuse considering Guildwars 2 current transportation system which is more efficient.

I agree with the top post, mounts would be much better for a player like me to get across the map faster in new areas like low level zones in which I am no going to quest.

I think this is a great idea to be discussed, thank you for bringing it up.

I honestly don’t see a point in mounts, we have plenty of teleport locations that players use and without them you would have no way of resurrecting; putting in mounts would only compromise the teleportation feature and the economy would unnecessarily inflate because no one is using teleports anymore.

Also the GW2 combat system is designed specifically to punish you for attempting to flee from the combat zone by slowing you down – having a mount only compromises that feature. That’s two compromises without even looking into the mount implementation itself – how will it be executed, how could it be designed to ensure these compromises are minimised? It may end up being the case of redesigning both the teleportation networks and the combat system – which I am not in favour of. Sorry, I just don’t think mounts are a good idea.

Let say there is a chest in the back of a cave. One player without a mount and one with a mount. The player without the mount has to earn his reward by fighting through the enemies. The player with the mount bypasses most of the enemies for a easy reward.

ok now when you get hit you dismount and to burtakexcess people would use tp to go any where far mounts are for the looks and for undiscovered zones

Npc’s don’t react fast enough to attack a mount running past them at swiftness.

They haven’t said anything about it, so the answer for now is no.

No word on that. The closest thing to an official word is that none were planned for the flame and frost event.

Somehow, though, I don’t see it happening since it would subvert a pretty hefty money sink: aka the waypoints.

I agree with Tolmos. Id almost bet my account that we will not be seeing speed increasing mounts in this game. Possibly just for aesthetics..but not speed increasing. Waypoints are kitten sink, which has ripple effects into Anets profits. Plus it takes a bit away from the world…it feels huge while on foot. Put mounts in, and it shrinks.

There is a gigantic thread about mounts in suggestion forums I believe.

Edit: Actually never mind I think the thread broke..

I wouldn’t mind mounts as long as they don’t increase movement speed.

I like riding around on my broom from my Witch’s Outfit. I stand out without having any advantages, and that is the way to go in my opinion.

Naus the Gobbo.5172:

I wouldn’t mind mounts as long as they don’t increase movement speed.

I like riding around on my broom from my Witch’s Outfit. I stand out without having any advantages, and that is the way to go in my opinion.

They seem to be adding 25% increased movement, passive, to most classes. Maybe even all of them, after a while. So, I would be all for them removing those utilities, giving us something else in its place, and giving us 25% increased movement speed mounts.

I’ve often wondered if anyone got a good talking to for the decision not to include mounts, even non speed increasing ones. I would think as far as the money market goes mounts for cash and random drops in lock boxes are mad cash.

But maybe the is just my personal preference coming through, never really minded dropping cash on a cool looking mount.

NCsoft should take a look at the amount of money generated from mount sales in WoW.

Fernling.1729:

NCsoft should take a look at the amount of money generated from mount sales in WoW.

If you want mounts, that’s how the case should be made.

One thing a large portion of the pro mount crowd overlook that is massively in favor of the “no mount” crowd: waypoint cost silver. More silver spent = higher chance that lazy and/or time strapped players will buy gems and convert to gold. $$$ in Anets pocket.

Adding mounts without a way to make up that revenue = money lost for Anet.

Want mounts? Convince them that there is more money in having mounts than not. Me? Honestly, I couldn’t care less either way. As grumpy cat says:

“There are 2 things I hate: Change and the way things are.” =D

I’m sure they’re well aware that other games have made money by selling mounts in their cash shop. Even I heard about it when WoW started selling sparkly ponies and I don’t even play it.

I’m equally sure they’re aware that a portion of the playerbase want them and that they could make cosmetic mounts with no speed boost.

But for whatever reason they’ve decided their game is better off without it. At least for now, they might change their mind one day but the last we heard was there were no plans to add mounts.

i rather have a mount with speed buff, the whole reason why i don’t play GW2 as much as GW1 is because the waypoints discourages me to travel at all.
i really want something that let’s me go anywhere fast enough, it doesn’t have to be instantaneous but just faster then i run.