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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

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It needs nerfed in so many ways if your going to add this to a rotation, it is way to hard risk vs reward and needs toned down in a lot of small ways.

Otherwise, people will do it once and never come back again.

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Posted by: Forkada.8376

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Easy dungeon. make it wis random pug party 2 necros 2 elem and guard in 35 min…. nee 2 buff

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Posted by: panzer.6034

panzer.6034

Just came to the boards to see the first “this is too hard” thread after beating it for the first time. lol

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Posted by: purplepegasus.2791

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People were asking for nerfs right after Tequatl was updated, but it still ended up being an incredibly awesome fight- this game needs more challenging content, not less challenging.

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Posted by: Blaeys.3102

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or they can buff all the other dungeons up to this level

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Make 20+ more threads and maybe they will replace it.

tafu→tata→dredges?

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Posted by: obal.3218

obal.3218

Make 20+ more threads and maybe they will replace it.

tafu->tata->dredges?

I’m suprised they just didn’t replace the tree with a clown car.

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Posted by: Lianna.6980

Lianna.6980

or they can buff all the other dungeons up to this level

Will be good reason to ignore all live story dungeons. More time for funnier stuff.
Glad so many folks enjoy the new content. Last fun content for me was Sanctum (Halloween was great too!).

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Posted by: Fungalfoot.7213

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I like the dungeon overall but the ooze segment needs to be fixed. Make the kitten oozes friendly and then I’ll gladly PUG this. As it stands I’ll only do it with organized groups.

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Posted by: Yargesh.4965

Yargesh.4965

People left after trying the ooze puzzle once. What is the mindset of that. Then people start swearing and acting as if they have a clue. It was not enjoyable. It was not unbelievably hard though. If people actually try no problem. Needing to reform teams every 5 min is a pain.

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Posted by: MastaNeenja.1537

MastaNeenja.1537

wow already? lol

the fact that we already have a thread like this is a good sign in my book that its a decent dungeon path

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Posted by: Stinson.5972

Stinson.5972

Finished it a little while ago. (PuG group from LFG tool, although not exactly average as I think the average AP in there was 8000+) I think oozes could be tuned a little bit but all in all it’s a mechanically rich dungeon. (The dev comment said to pre-damage the elementals and then kill quickly when you are pulling the oozes, which feels a little gamey and probably just suggests the elementals should have less health.)

I liked Slick and Spark and the platform room. Clockheart seems to have a bug that teleports/sticks people sometimes. All in all that’s an okay fight, though not very PuG friendly because of the fact that once someone goes down there’s basically no way to revive with three or four gears spinning on top of them.

Once people learn it, the clear times will drop a lot. Although experience suggests unless it can be shaved down to 20 mins or so people will choose to run the simpler dungeons. But you can’t please everyone.

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Posted by: One Note Chord.5031

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Dungeon is not good, please don’t nerf it.

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Posted by: kRiza krimos.1637

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I see there is a troll that found a way out of class forums and into a new sub-forum.

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Posted by: teheria.1290

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Not really too hard if people talk, listen and work together (lol, weird saying that but some people just don’t understand how to play in groups).

Dungeon needs a bit of tuning and glitch fixing, but I didn’t find it that fun.

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Posted by: Atrophied.8725

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Ahaha. Remember when AC was too hard? Or Arah? Yeah. Let it be something that’s briefly challenging until you learn the best way to do it.

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Posted by: GoldenTruth.2853

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This dungeon path is really easy though…

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Posted by: sonicsix.5713

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Annoying content does not equal challenging content.

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Posted by: Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

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Too hard? HAHAHAHAHAHA, say what?

Half the dungeon, including the final boss, can be solo’d. You only need extra people for the Ooze “puzzle” and the lightning room.

IT’S A SWORD. THEY’RE NOT MEANT TO BE SAFE.

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Posted by: Magnetron.5823

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Few hours after patch and you cry for too hard hahaha.

GuildWars 2 is a game based on the skills of the player.

I am sorry man, I don’t want to offend you or your party, but you guys are not so good players

Takes practice man, try try try.. learn from other people.. learn the mechanics.

Instead of making this thread, you could make a thread what you find hard to do.

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Posted by: Miragee.3604

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lol, folks mindset worries me more and more ;(

GuildWars 2 is a game based on the skills of the player.

lol, I hope this was a joke.

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Posted by: Fungalfoot.7213

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Annoying content does not equal challenging content.

Indeed. And nothing is more annoying than escort quests. Except for escort quests in which you escort hostile targets.

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Posted by: theodor.3480

theodor.3480

LOL, this dungeon isn’t too hard. I can say it is average, only the last boss is a bit dificult (wiped a few times at him). Otherwise i enjoy it and i find it fun (you need to think not face roll kill everything). More content that requires grey matter to use

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

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Ooze part is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to hard way way way way way to hard. That’s all i have to say.

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Posted by: Fay.2735

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I’d just like to remind the people who say the dungeon is too hard that people said the same thing about all the other dungeons just after launch and every change thereafter.

Then after a few weeks everyone speedruns through it easily enough. Just give people time to learn the encounters (And yourself) and it’ll be much easier.

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Posted by: Magnetron.5823

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lol, folks mindset worries me more and more ;(

GuildWars 2 is a game based on the skills of the player.

lol, I hope this was a joke.

Well that’s how they introduced the game :P

But this dungeon just need an IQ higher then 80 I think.

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Posted by: Lianna.6980

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Too hard? HAHAHAHAHAHA, say what?

Half the dungeon, including the final boss, can be solo’d. You only need extra people for the Ooze “puzzle” and the lightning room.

Videoproof or trolling?

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Posted by: Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

Ooze part is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to hard way way way way way to hard. That’s all i have to say.

It’s possible to do it with only 1 player per Ooze. You can have 5 players in the dungeon. If you fail at this, you’re doing something terribly wrong and might want to stop for a minute and discuss a strategy.

IT’S A SWORD. THEY’RE NOT MEANT TO BE SAFE.

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

I came to this forum specifically to find a thread like this, so I could have a laugh.

A modicum of co-operation and it’s a cakewalk. Really, how low do you have to sink before content is acceptable? When the boss just drops dead in front of you and a big banner flies overhead with confetti saying “EVERYONE’S A WINNER!”

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Posted by: NoTrigger.8396

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It needs nerfed in so many ways if your going to add this to a rotation, it is way to hard risk vs reward and needs toned down in a lot of small ways.

Otherwise, people will do it once and never come back again.

it needs to be hard. because gw2 is lacking difficult content.
and other than that explorer mode was never meant to be for pugs or bad groups.

edit: look at your description: “Roleplayer {} Friend {} Professional Princess Saver”
….
there is your problem.

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Posted by: Baamoink.4281

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Did this dungeon with my guild, we wiped a few times during our first try, but got to the end & thoroughly enjoyed it.

This dungeon is not too difficult! Stop asking for content where you just walk through it without actually having to play the game.

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Posted by: NoTrigger.8396

NoTrigger.8396

I like the dungeon overall but the ooze segment needs to be fixed. Make the kitten oozes friendly and then I’ll gladly PUG this. As it stands I’ll only do it with organized groups.

explorer mode is meant to be for organized groups. and they said in an interview they want to add paths especially for organized groups.

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Posted by: Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

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Too hard? HAHAHAHAHAHA, say what?

Half the dungeon, including the final boss, can be solo’d. You only need extra people for the Ooze “puzzle” and the lightning room.

Videoproof or trolling?

Neither.

My party was utter **** and died within 10 seconds after they got up. I solo’d one ooze while the other 4 players did the other. I solo’d Slick and the last 20% of Sparki after the other 4 players died. I solo’d the last 40% of Spur after the other 4 players died. I solo’d 5 of the 8(?) hologram-generators, after, you get it by now, the other 4 players died. Ended up doing the Clockheart with 1 other guy and 3 dead on the floor. Soloing the optional events (running officer, keeping lionguard alive, keeping Turma above 75%, destroying the 3 Airships) is equally easy.

Bring food and skills that act as dodges.

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Posted by: greensuitjacket.9180

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I am uninstalling Guild Wars 2 after being one of it’s staunchest supporters. I loved your living story, your actual story, dodge rolls, the art … But the developers are too interested in pumping out pay-to-vanity items that they cannot create quality dungeon content.
Test your dungeons, make them fun to play. Set class rolls. Do something. Because I’m leaving.

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Posted by: Walhalla.5473

Walhalla.5473

It isn’t too difficult. You need to coordinate and understand the mechanics in this dungeon. Did it with my guild and we got to the end. Wiped a few times but we learned from the wipes. This is how it should be

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Posted by: Nurgle.6597

Nurgle.6597

People were asking for nerfs right after Tequatl was updated, but it still ended up being an incredibly awesome fight- this game needs more challenging content, not less challenging.

and guess what? the tequatl event is now dead, at least on my server, we’ve been doing it every day since it came out, and now everybody just got sick of all the waiting and stooped doing it. There are now not enough people there and the event is impossible to complete.

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Posted by: bromi.7809

bromi.7809

I would like to THANK Arena for this dungeon.
Completed it with guildies without ‘dulfy’ help, I enjoyed it very much. And the best thing is we got meta on first run, so we don’t have to hurry anywhere now %)

I’ve tried then run with PUG, we’ve made slimies even faster than with guildies but party had not enough good dps to do next one in time. Though i believe they’ll make it in 1-2 try after i had to leave.

Very fun and diverse dungeon path, great job.
Maybe only the meadow with wurms is kinda boring.

Can’t wait to try that achievement of axe guy.. can’t imagine how to right now!

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Posted by: Ronah.2869

Ronah.2869

it needs to be hard. because gw2 is lacking difficult content.
and other than that explorer mode was never meant to be for pugs or bad groups.

Instances SHOULD NOT exist in a Massively Multiplayer Game no matter what name they have

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Posted by: GussJr.1643

GussJr.1643

Daecollo/Talathion you played Eq2, were common on their forums, you should know that a GW2 dungeon is no where near as hard as an Eq2 dungeon…

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Posted by: MastaNeenja.1537

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PSA: Dungeons are not closed instances of 5 player PVE, that’s what personal story is.

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Posted by: Newman.6847

Newman.6847

Just came to the boards to see the first “this is too hard” thread after beating it for the first time. lol

Same OP, you can’t even gauge if it’s too hard or not on the first day of it’s release. People haven’t figured out the best strategies to beat it yet, so it will seem harder and longer than it really is. Give it a few days and good dungeon teams will be making smooth fast runs of the place no problem.

I mean, if someone asked me if Teq was too difficult on the first day it was released I’d probably have said yes. Guess what, it’s not. I think anet did a nice job on this one. Visually, it’s the most beautiful dungeon to date, TA’s looking like it should have from the start now. Gameplay wise, it’s nice and diverse, none of the mechanics are too difficult once figured out but all together it’s not bad. Yes, it’s long and difficult on the first run but that was true for the Aetherblade Retreat as well, and it turned into 20 min speed runs a few days after release..

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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

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Not all of us are super pro but I will tell you this it is a challenge but not too hard. We had 2 people leave but we did mange to get it done Engineer, Guard, Ranger, Necro, and Warrior.

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Posted by: rizzo.1079

rizzo.1079

I guess it’s not easy enough to do single player then, ah well just more new content that I can disregard…

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

It needs nerfed in so many ways if your going to add this to a rotation, it is way to hard risk vs reward and needs toned down in a lot of small ways.

Otherwise, people will do it once and never come back again.

Lol yea, hard dungeon. More like the best dungeon I’ve played in GW2 since Flame and Frost that requires brains and coordination.

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Posted by: NoTrigger.8396

NoTrigger.8396

it needs to be hard. because gw2 is lacking difficult content.
and other than that explorer mode was never meant to be for pugs or bad groups.

Instances SHOULD NOT exist in a Massively Multiplayer Game no matter what name they have

im pretty sure you will be able to create a MMO without instances and make every other MMO look like trash

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

I didn’t find ooze that hard, i have however hit a brick wall with PUGs and Spakki and Slick. I bet this whole dungeon runs a lot smoother in an organized group though.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

I just manage to finish it. Thing to me is I probably never do it again, just like aetherblade retreat.

You spend a few hours learning the instance just to run with another pug tomorrow.

That’s why I really hate any hard dungeon. You really need to have a fix group else you’ll spend hours everyday running with people never done the dungeon before.

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Posted by: tweeve.3782

tweeve.3782

The dungeon is not too hard, its a great dungeon.

I for sure am going to run the dungeon again. I have 2 more 80’s both of which I plan on running the dungeon again before server reset.

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Posted by: panzer.6034

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Too hard? HAHAHAHAHAHA, say what?

Half the dungeon, including the final boss, can be solo’d. You only need extra people for the Ooze “puzzle” and the lightning room.

Videoproof or trolling?

Neither.

My party was utter **** and died within 10 seconds after they got up. I solo’d one ooze while the other 4 players did the other. I solo’d Slick and the last 20% of Sparki after the other 4 players died. I solo’d the last 40% of Spur after the other 4 players died. I solo’d 5 of the 8(?) hologram-generators, after, you get it by now, the other 4 players died. Ended up doing the Clockheart with 1 other guy and 3 dead on the floor. Soloing the optional events (running officer, keeping lionguard alive, keeping Turma above 75%, destroying the 3 Airships) is equally easy.

Bring food and skills that act as dodges.

In my group, myself and one other guy kept completing our ooze over and over while the other 3 guys on the other side kept having issues. I think you get less spawns with less people escorting.

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

Phoebe Ascension.8437

Ooze part is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to hard way way way way way to hard. That’s all i have to say.

It’s possible to do it with only 1 player per Ooze. You can have 5 players in the dungeon. If you fail at this, you’re doing something terribly wrong and might want to stop for a minute and discuss a strategy.

If a lava ele is alive and he sees ooze, the ooze is dead. Time and time this happens again.

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