Guild Wars 2

It was always like this all the time: “Necrid Bolt – casts a single, powerful, bouncing projectile at a single target; only hits targets at range. Will not hit players at melee range.”

After 2-3 patches now it his while in melee what it shouldn’t be.
I demand a serious fix in this because we can’t play in melee like this.

Draco.9480:

It was always like this all the time: “Necrid Bolt – casts a single, powerful, bouncing projectile at a single target; only hits targets at range. Will not hit players at melee range.”

After 2-3 patches now it his while in melee what it shouldn’t be.
I demand a serious fix in this because we can’t play in melee like this.

Just one-shot him :^)

Oohh if he “demands” you must IMMEDIATELY do something! dw next patch his melee atack hits gonna do area-arena-damage! keep it challenging! Puppu smash warriors!! LFG guardian! 3kap+

This is actually pretty exciting. I like this change!

Noir.3241:

Oohh if he “demands” you must IMMEDIATELY do something! dw next patch his melee atack hits gonna do area-arena-damage! keep it challenging! Puppu smash warriors!! LFG guardian! 3kap+

Can’t wait for the first LFG’s: “WTB Help at Lupi 5g! Req: Guard 5k+”

Let’s call it feature.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Let’s call it feature.

31 march
“fixed a bug that was causing lupi to not kill all in melee properly”

P.S. guard alive " pls someone put it to wall"

Rising Dusk.2408:

This is actually pretty exciting. I like this change!

Goodbye necro solos. :P

spoj.9672:

Goodbye necro solos. :P

Range condition solos will still work (can strafe the bolt)!

Rising Dusk.2408:

spoj.9672:

Goodbye necro solos. :P

Range condition solos will still work (can strafe the bolt)!

noo! have faith with HoT necros get great swords and able to oneshot it too with skill 1

Noir.3241:

Rising Dusk.2408:

spoj.9672:

Goodbye necro solos. :P

Range condition solos will still work (can strafe the bolt)!

noo! have faith with HoT necros get great swords and able to oneshot it too with skill 1

but but but

if you need to time #1 for an oneshot – it would be reasonable and fair1!!11

THANK U ANET FOR THIS CHANGE! PLS DONT FIX IT! HE IS FINALLY A CHALLENGE!
Can u make his projectiles unblockable? plez?

Terissimo.6852:

THANK U ANET FOR THIS CHANGE! PLS DONT FIX IT! HE IS FINALLY A CHALLENGE!
Can u make his projectiles unblockable? plez?

yes they will make his melee attack also throw unblockable necrid bolts and hell summon mini korgas instead loctuses …just wait till next tuesday.

Terissimo.6852:

THANK U ANET FOR THIS CHANGE! PLS DONT FIX IT! HE IS FINALLY A CHALLENGE!
Can u make his projectiles unblockable? plez?

(Sarcasm) Ahem, don’t you know it is DnT’s job to get things nerfed around here hehe. Ice bow is next folks. :P

Fun fact: more teams wiped to elite mobs in the trio tourney than at lupi.

Lupi easier than elite mobs, obviously deserves a buff.

ArenaNet has been infiltrated by the anti-zerkers. Slowly but surely they are changing our world. Make an attack unblockable here, change the effectiveness of a skill there. This is the beginning of a new era, of a new world order. Soon druid guardians and shoutheal warriors will be the new meta. There is only one way to stop this. We, the elite top of players, must band together to defeat this evil once and for all. Brace yourselves boys, #illunomadi are coming.

Im going to try solo now s/d s/d energy sigil teef new meta!

Welp. Soloing lupi on classes without vigor just got a hell of a lot harder.

dutchiez.7502:

ArenaNet has been infiltrated by the anti-zerkers. Slowly but surely they are changing our world. Make an attack unblockable here, change the effectiveness of a skill there. This is the beginning of a new era, of a new world order. Soon druid guardians and shoutheal warriors will be the new meta. There is only one way to stop this. We, the elite top of players, must band together to defeat this evil once and for all. Brace yourselves boys, #illunomadi are coming.

rofl

/cough cough

dutchiez.7502:

ArenaNet has been infiltrated by the anti-zerkers. Slowly but surely they are changing our world. Make an attack unblockable here, change the effectiveness of a skill there. This is the beginning of a new era, of a new world order. Soon druid guardians and shoutheal warriors will be the new meta. There is only one way to stop this. We, the elite top of players, must band together to defeat this evil once and for all. Brace yourselves boys, #illunomadi are coming.

Are you saying the meta is changing at a slow rate? You are crazy

Cheezy.2039:

dutchiez.7502:

ArenaNet has been infiltrated by the anti-zerkers. Slowly but surely they are changing our world. Make an attack unblockable here, change the effectiveness of a skill there. This is the beginning of a new era, of a new world order. Soon druid guardians and shoutheal warriors will be the new meta. There is only one way to stop this. We, the elite top of players, must band together to defeat this evil once and for all. Brace yourselves boys, #illunomadi are coming.

Are you saying the meta is changing at a slow rate? You are crazy

hes talking about “elite top of players” in gw 2…ofc hes crazy

Also in phase 2 when he casts those 500 bolts I used to stay at melee with my d/f ele to cast the 4 from air. It was tricky because you had to do it really fast, but now I tried and it’s almost impossible to do it in time, the first bolts seems to hit the ground really fast. (Managed to do it in time twice but it was just me guessing if the boss would do that skill and casting it randomly 1 second before lupi animation)

I soloed as d/d with 9387423984 evades ;D As i saw they also changed his lifesteal single target :P Pugging now will be awesome <3

Terissimo.6852:

I soloed as d/d with 9387423984 evades ;D As i saw they also changed his lifesteal single target :P Pugging now will be awesome <3

great now take away the nomad armor and start playing decently….

Noir.3241:

Terissimo.6852:

I soloed as d/d with 9387423984 evades ;D As i saw they also changed his lifesteal single target :P Pugging now will be awesome <3

great now take away the nomad armor and start playing decently….

Why? i play how i want

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Also despite whether or not there’s people in here who like it, the vast majority of the players that do Arah will likely not.

It annoys the kitten out of me that they still kept the wallexploit. If they wanted to make this challenging, get rid of the countless bugs that people use in a pug party that make this fight a joke. Is it still possible to solo on Mesmer with offhand energy sigils and keeping 100% uptime on wardens?

Purple Miku.7032:

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Realize that they don’t want to just make his projectiles unblockable because that negates the entire value of those skills against GL, but it’s not as simple to somehow make the skill unable to reflect his skills on a wall. That’s a much tougher problem to solve than making his attack that he uses work in melee. It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

Rising Dusk.2408:

It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

And that’s where a little communication would be ohh so nice. Instaed I’m just sitting here thinking they’re all pretty incompetent at this point.

Jerus.4350:

Rising Dusk.2408:

It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

And that’s where a little communication would be ohh so nice. Instaed I’m just sitting here thinking they’re all pretty incompetent at this point.

I realized this after fractal leaderboards :X At least they’re not Trion or something. There are a lot worse companies out there…

Rising Dusk.2408:

It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

Considering the plethora of other bugs released today including cast times doubled for certain skills, dungeons being incompletable due to certain events bugging out, and much more, I really doubt this was intended. Actually I don’t think a single dungeon-related change today was intended.

I have no proof of it but at this point based off of how out-of-touch they are with this community there’s no way anyone’s going to convince me that out of all the bosses in this game that needed tweaking to up the difficulty, this is the only one they found adequate to change. Not Ancient Ooze, not the Jotun Stargazer, not Berserker Abom, not anything else?

Seems so unbelievably unlikely coupled with what I mentioned earlier about them still letting people instantly blow him up with a conveniently-placed WoR that they would have thought of modifying his ranged autoattack of all things.

I think a lot of these issues are cascade issues due to the personal story changes to Arah. Code-paths breaking, things of that nature. Naturally, dungeons are on the low end of the totem pole in terms of QA time, so these things break. You’re probably right that this is a bug, too.

Regardless, as I said in another thread, I will be collecting all of the reported bugs including this change to GL’s Necrid Bolt and passing them onto ANet before Friday.

Upon trying a naked offwall solo, I’ve discovered yet another bug but I don’t know if he was doing this prior to today’s patch.

After a phase 2 aoe, as I’m walking back to him (I dodged backwards and riposted), he just kept shadowstepping and disappearing. Like, you know how he glitches when he shadowsteps to someone that’s on the wall? He was doing that, yet I was COMPLETELY ALONE and in the middle of the arena. He did it three times b2b.

What the kitten. They completely broke this boss.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Purple Miku.7032:

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Realize that they don’t want to just make his projectiles unblockable because that negates the entire value of those skills against GL, but it’s not as simple to somehow make the skill unable to reflect his skills on a wall. That’s a much tougher problem to solve than making his attack that he uses work in melee. It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

It would be very simple to fix. Just make it so the walls in his arena can’t have skills target them like half the walls in Arah leading up to Lupicus.

Quin Marino.6384:

Rising Dusk.2408:

Purple Miku.7032:

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Realize that they don’t want to just make his projectiles unblockable because that negates the entire value of those skills against GL, but it’s not as simple to somehow make the skill unable to reflect his skills on a wall. That’s a much tougher problem to solve than making his attack that he uses work in melee. It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

It would be very simple to fix. Just make it so the walls in his arena can’t have skills target them like half the walls in Arah leading up to Lupicus.

I’ve got a better idea.

The surrounding perimeter is incased in a ring of necrotic darkness, if lupi steps into it, he will gain 25 stacks of might, fury, quickness, protection, retaliation, will quickly teleport back into the center of the room and cast a Kamehamehamehamehamehamehamehamehamehame aaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! lvl4 while perma evading all attacks.

Quin Marino.6384:

Rising Dusk.2408:

Purple Miku.7032:

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Realize that they don’t want to just make his projectiles unblockable because that negates the entire value of those skills against GL, but it’s not as simple to somehow make the skill unable to reflect his skills on a wall. That’s a much tougher problem to solve than making his attack that he uses work in melee. It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

It would be very simple to fix. Just make it so the walls in his arena can’t have skills target them like half the walls in Arah leading up to Lupicus.

This was already discussed and mesmers using feedback like so was pointed out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1HELaoYmBk

I just learnt how to solo lupi with my warrior and they changed it to impossible to melee…fml, i’m done with this game. – uninstalled.

I tried to fight it with some friends (Open kill, No wall) and the new lupi is kinda challenging but still a Guardian can break the fight without using wall exploit, Mace/Shield + F3+ Retreat! can mitigate most of the incoming missiles, and just for the missiles than can’t be mitigated just look when he moves his arm in your direction and dodge, use of Energy sigil is highly recommendable.

Also, since a few updates ago the Dome is more forgivable so really moving a lot while fighting Lupi to avoid or dodge the missiles isn’t near as dangerous as used to be.

Quin Marino.6384:

Rising Dusk.2408:

Purple Miku.7032:

Seems pretty obviously unintended considering you can still 1-shot him in phase 2. If they were going to “fix” anything, it’d most definitely be that.

Realize that they don’t want to just make his projectiles unblockable because that negates the entire value of those skills against GL, but it’s not as simple to somehow make the skill unable to reflect his skills on a wall. That’s a much tougher problem to solve than making his attack that he uses work in melee. It’s really impossible for us to determine intent here.

It would be very simple to fix. Just make it so the walls in his arena can’t have skills target them like half the walls in Arah leading up to Lupicus.

Or just change the point where the projectiles spawn. If they came out of his head instead of his stomach then you wouldnt be able to overlap a reflect on that spot.

The only reason Feedback one-shot works is because there is a flat surface on top of the wall, which conveniently is at the same height as where lupi’s projectiles are generated from. Making the wall untargetable as well as extending that invisiwall well above lupi’s height will fix the Feedback too. Just make sure the invisiwall is a proper 3d object that effectively would raise that flat surface above lupi’s head. So even if you do land Feedback, lupi’s center-point would be equally far away from the top as from Feedback placed on the ground.

Also, why are people calling it “Necrid Bolt” when gw2dugneons.net has his single-target projectile listed as “Lupine Blast”?

As this will probably not be fixed for quite a while (if ever, not to mention it might be intended — who knows, Anet doesn’t communicate):

Anyone done a solo of the new Lupi? I gave it a few tries and got past phase 2 by ranging him, but didn’t last long in phase 3.

This wouldnt be such a bad change if he didnt use necrid bolt/lupine blast as often….but im not really sure how often he uses it because ive melee’d him for too long. Altho this change might force people to chain reflects at ground level especially if he doesnt do his aoe right away in p2.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Anyone done a solo of the new Lupi? I gave it a few tries and got past phase 2 by ranging him, but didn’t last long in phase 3.

I managed to get to p3 off wall on warrior, but ran outta dodges. Even had you use burst skills to proc building momentum a few times. I’m sure its still doable but I kinda think Sig Stamina might be necessary if you’re doing it off wall.

They fixed interrupting with paralyzation sigil so im not able to stop pugs from one shotting him anymore :C

Lord Kuru.3685:

As this will probably not be fixed for quite a while (if ever, not to mention it might be intended — who knows, Anet doesn’t communicate):

Anyone done a solo of the new Lupi? I gave it a few tries and got past phase 2 by ranging him, but didn’t last long in phase 3.

I have, off-wall and with mace/sword instead of axe/sword and signet of stamina instead of signet of fury, but I wasn’t able to do a naked solo like I wanted to for a video. I kept getting RNG’d on phase 2 aoes/transition to phase 3.

>Defiant Stance + Riposte
>Hit by an aoe after both still.
>MRW

Purple Miku.7032:

Lord Kuru.3685:

As this will probably not be fixed for quite a while (if ever, not to mention it might be intended — who knows, Anet doesn’t communicate):

Anyone done a solo of the new Lupi? I gave it a few tries and got past phase 2 by ranging him, but didn’t last long in phase 3.

I have, off-wall and with mace/sword instead of axe/sword and signet of stamina instead of signet of fury, but I wasn’t able to do a naked solo like I wanted to for a video. I kept getting RNG’d on phase 2 aoes/transition to phase 3.

>Defiant Stance + Riposte
>Hit by an aoe after both still.
>MRW

You have enough dodges/evades? I had Lupi use Necrid bolt 3 times in a row with two second recharge in between.

Spent about an hour attempting solo on condi engi, but it wasn’t happening. L/R strafing only seemed to work half the time, and lupi kept staying in his shadowstep form even after dodging the original return. What a pain.

Lord Kuru.3685:

You have enough dodges/evades? I had Lupi use Necrid bolt 3 times in a row with two second recharge in between.

Mace mainhand on warrior has a block on 10 second cooldown, sword offhand has a block on 15 second cooldown, signet of stamina gives 50% extra endurance regeneration (so half of what vigour does), my sword offhand has an energy sigil, and greatsword has an extra evade on a 10 second cooldown. Combine this with Defiant Stance, which is an instant full heal during a phase 2 aoe barrage and you’ve got yourself easymode.

Purple Miku.7032:

Lord Kuru.3685:

You have enough dodges/evades? I had Lupi use Necrid bolt 3 times in a row with two second recharge in between.

Mace mainhand on warrior has a block on 10 second cooldown, sword offhand has a block on 15 second cooldown, signet of stamina gives 50% extra endurance regeneration (so half of what vigour does), my sword offhand has an energy sigil, and greatsword has an extra evade on a 10 second cooldown. Combine this with Defiant Stance, which is an instant full heal during a phase 2 aoe barrage and you’ve got yourself easymode.

Nice! Funny thing is I was just experimenting with Defiant Stance a few days ago for Lupi and concluded it wasn’t worth it.