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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

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Round 3:

Would you use an Ascended weapon with a Sigil of Force or an Exotic weapon with a Sigil of Night in a night dungeon? Why?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

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Round 3:

Would you use an Ascended weapon with a Sigil of Force or an Exotic weapon with a Sigil of Night in a night dungeon? Why?

Ascended + Force.

if i’m not mistaken Ascended is ~10% increase, thus it’d be 5% over the night sigil as the night sigil is negated by the upgrade to ascended.

however… the cheapskate in me still wnts to say exotic so I don’t feel guilty about not making my alts weapons ascended yet

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 
 
 
 

… at level 80

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Posted by: Slypher.5321

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 

That’s interesting. This means that the Exotic Undead Slaying Sword I’ve been using for Arah is worst than the Ascended Force Sword I use for everything else. kitten . Time to upgrade to Ascended.

Btw, I hope the non-regular dungeon forumer are allowed here.

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 

That’s interesting. This means that the Exotic Undead Slaying Sword I’ve been using for Arah is worst than the Ascended Force Sword I use for everything else. kitten . Time to upgrade to Ascended.

Btw, I hope the non-regular dungeon forumer are allowed here.

Everyone’s allowed in the trashcan!

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Posted by: Taku.6352

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 

That’s interesting. This means that the Exotic Undead Slaying Sword I’ve been using for Arah is worst than the Ascended Force Sword I use for everything else. kitten . Time to upgrade to Ascended.

Btw, I hope the non-regular dungeon forumer are allowed here.

Everyone’s allowed in the trashcan!

Trashcan doesn’t discriminate as long as you are sensible and don’t try to push any PHIW ideals upon others.

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But what if stacking might and fiery rushing into a corner is PHIW for me?

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Posted by: Taku.6352

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But what if stacking might and fiery rushing into a corner is PHIW for me?

Then it is your preferred way of playing, just don’t shove it to those who do not enjoy such playstyle.

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What else could you do when your opener goes afk for 30 mins and you’re an asura?

Edit: #puglife

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But what if stacking might and fiery rushing into a corner is PHIW for me?

Then it is your preferred way of playing, just don’t shove it to those who do not enjoy such playstyle.

Correct, though he has every right to enforce it if he’s the group leader.

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Literal Lupicus faceplant.

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Also my Ele is doing things to Gabe with her eyes.

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

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Gabe is just mesmerized by that cleavage. You didn’t chose the right profession Lilith :/

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

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Also my Ele is doing things to Gabe with her eyes.

*squeeze*

*walks away whistling*

*looks around and slinks back into the shadows*

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“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 
 
 
 

… at level 80

So what is your final answer when most night dungeons are NOT level 80?

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Posted by: hendo.1940

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I’d use ascended night.

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Game over, yo.

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Imagine pugging CoF path 1. You’re coming up to the part with the fiery balls. Mesmer drops portal, starts to run, blinks to the end, somehow messes up the keys and manages to drop the exit portal right underneath the last fiery ball instead of behind them. Of course, the party doesn’t realise the mistake until they have all ported straight into those balls. Fail.

Now imagine the mesmer is you …

runs off to hide someplace nobody will ever find

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I’ve done that too! -High five-

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Imagine pugging CoF path 1. You’re coming up to the part with the fiery balls. Mesmer drops portal, starts to run, blinks to the end, somehow messes up the keys and manages to drop the exit portal right underneath the last fiery ball instead of behind them. Of course, the party doesn’t realise the mistake until they have all ported straight into those balls. Fail.

Now imagine the mesmer is you …

runs off to hide someplace nobody will ever find

0.o

you sir are a troll of the highest order

:)

((( I laughed,,, hard )))

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Posted by: frifox.5283

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 
 
 
 

… at level 80

So what is your final answer when most night dungeons are NOT level 80?

Oh are you saying there are other dungeons beside CoE?? lol jk of couse

I can’t give a final answer just yet because I’m still not 100% sure how weapon strength scales with level compared to core stat scaling. I have seen signs of both linear and exponential scaling and even an “x” factor (had to read gw2 memory to get data that actually made sense) so until I figure it all out for sure, I’ll refrain from making any serious claims

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Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 
 
 
 

… at level 80

So what is your final answer when most night dungeons are NOT level 80?

Oh are you saying there are other dungeons beside CoE?? lol jk of couse

I can’t give a final answer just yet because I’m still not 100% sure how weapon strength scales with level compared to core stat scaling. I have seen signs of both linear and exponential scaling and even an “x” factor (had to read gw2 memory to get data that actually made sense) so until I figure it all out for sure, I’ll refrain from making any serious claims

frifox lives in coe, confirmed

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

Ascended Force is 0.22% better than Exotic Night.
Exotic Night is 2% better than Ascended Accuracy.
 
 
 
 

… at level 80

So what is your final answer when most night dungeons are NOT level 80?

Oh are you saying there are other dungeons beside CoE?? lol jk of couse

I can’t give a final answer just yet because I’m still not 100% sure how weapon strength scales with level compared to core stat scaling. I have seen signs of both linear and exponential scaling and even an “x” factor (had to read gw2 memory to get data that actually made sense) so until I figure it all out for sure, I’ll refrain from making any serious claims

At least based on tooltips even at level 79 Ascended weapons have equal strength as Exotic ones…

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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Imagine pugging CoF path 1. You’re coming up to the part with the fiery balls. Mesmer drops portal, starts to run, blinks to the end, somehow messes up the keys and manages to drop the exit portal right underneath the last fiery ball instead of behind them. Of course, the party doesn’t realise the mistake until they have all ported straight into those balls. Fail.

Now imagine the mesmer is you …

runs off to hide someplace nobody will ever find

I once fell victim to this.

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Posted by: Suns Dusk.7201

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At least based on tooltips even at level 79 Ascended weapons have equal strength as Exotic ones…

Does this also mean a rare weapon may be nearly as good as an exotic one (apart from attribute differences) all the way up to and including SE story?

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

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Below level 60 Exotics have equal weapon strengths as Rare ones.

But as Frifox said, we are still working on this!

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Imagine pugging CoF path 1. You’re coming up to the part with the fiery balls. Mesmer drops portal, starts to run, blinks to the end, somehow messes up the keys and manages to drop the exit portal right underneath the last fiery ball instead of behind them. Of course, the party doesn’t realise the mistake until they have all ported straight into those balls. Fail.

Now imagine the mesmer is you …

runs off to hide someplace nobody will ever find

Truth be told, I have a friend who did this on purpose. Admittedly though not in a pug but a guildrun.
His portals have never been trusted by anyone since though.

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you may keep them to rear new and interesting variants in your basement.

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Posted by: Cotser.7015

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I sold my first Arah P3 today-
Someone got dusk from the endboss
:|

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

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I sold my first Arah P3 today-
Someone got dusk from the endboss
:|

…. I’d probably never sell another dungeon again after that

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Posted by: Silberfisch.3046

Silberfisch.3046

Ouch. Have a cookie to make you feel better. hands over the cookie jar

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Posted by: Cotser.7015

Cotser.7015

I sold my first Arah P3 today-
Someone got dusk from the endboss
:|

…. I’d probably never sell another dungeon again after that

Maybe I’m blessed, anyone who buys Paths from me gets a precursor
Gonna put that in my LFGs.
Thanks for the cookies :’(

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

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Someone got a Colossus from Colossus Rumblus in an AC P3 I sold. Now I don’t bother telling them to come tag the endboss anymore :/

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Posted by: Cotser.7015

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Someone got a Colossus from Colossus Rumblus

What a coincidence.
But yeah it sucks.

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Ahem…. I’ve never done this kind of thing before, but here it goes.

Hi.

My name is Dan, and I’m a Lupiholic.

I see him with friends and I see him alone. I’ve taken to doing DR runs of Arah to see him. I join PuGs to see him. I join “12300000+ AP REQUIRED SPEED RUN” LFGs to see him. I join PuGs, finish him off solo and leave just to see him.

I know admitting it is half the battle, and here I am…. Admitting my Lupi addiction.

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Ahem…. I’ve never done this kind of thing before, but here it goes.

Hi.

My name is Dan, and I’m a Lupiholic.

I see him with friends and I see him alone. I’ve taken to doing DR runs of Arah to see him. I join PuGs to see him. I join “12300000+ AP REQUIRED SPEED RUN” LFGs to see him. I join PuGs, finish him off solo and leave just to see him.

I know admitting it is half the battle, and here I am…. Admitting my Lupi addiction.

You’ve come to the right place.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

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Below level 60 Exotics have equal weapon strengths as Rare ones.

But as Frifox said, we are still working on this!

I’m interested in the answer, as I have massive amounts of exotic weapons which I can cull away.

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I think that this tournament is going to bring the BHBs out of the woodwork. Amazing job yesterday all. Was an absolute blast, and can’t wait to do it again. Great commentary too!

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They’re already here, just look at most of the recent posts in the forums; or don’t, some are pretty painfully stupid.

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Posted by: Cotser.7015

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Are we fashionable enough yet?
Did a full arah p3 run NAKED.
And didn’t even wipe

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Fyi- as a naked thief, bubbles hit for 12323 per tick and single target drain hits for 8001 per tick

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I take my eyes off this forum for a few days and suddenly there’s an influx of BHBs and QQers. Hmm, more entertainment, I guess.

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Posted by: IvanTheGrey.2941

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I honestly can’t believe the amount of BHB on here now. Wow….

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Oh boy, that fella is on fire today.

Simple: People shouldn’t farm it, or if they farm it, they should not get rewarded for simply farming it, or the design need to improve.

Whoa.

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Also my Ele is doing things to Gabe with her eyes.

He has some unhealthy obsession in his eyes.

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Mesmers OP confirmed, nerf plz.

Good job btw C:

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It’s fashion wars 2, baby, and I’m freaking winning it. – Lilith Ajit.6173

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Did a terribad AC p1 last night. Took 1.5 hours. Failed burrows roughly 16 times.

I don’t understand it. It was me, another elitist, a good player with lag and two unknowns. One was a bearbow who, quote, doesn’t “carry melee weapons”. Yep. Longbow on a burrow. “Whatever”, I thought, “we’ve got FGS”.

By the 4th try myself and the other exp were both on our eles. Our unknown warr refused to take an icebow, as his main sword is clearly more powerful than a borderline exploit.

I’ve duoed this part so many times, I can’t understand why it took so many tries with a full party. Maybe one of the unknowns was dragging gravelings to Hodgins? I should have paid more attention to that, but I took the far burrows Q_Q

Much frustrate. Gave me nightmares last night.

I hate when runs take 6 times longer than a duo would, especially because people don’t listen and think they know better, when all they’re doing is kittening things up If they’re just learning and doing poorly that’s one thing, but jebus. Listen.

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

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Amazing.

Post the blooper too though, that’s even funnier.

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Spoj confirmed pro leecher

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