Guild Wars 2

J Eberle.9312:

Can’t wait for a fresh wave of ‘tanks’ and condition ‘pros’ to hit the pug dungeon scene!

Bad enough with the random knockbacks/fear/etc in pugs. Now pug adventures will be even more exciting. inb4 threads complaining about bosses being aggroed out of icestorm.

dlonie.6547:

Iris Ng.9845:

Also, you tend to drift off to the Unknown realm whenever we try to invite people

Jerus is the King of the Unknown Realm.

Jerus has a Kingdom in the Unknown Realm. His unknownites will attack us all some day.

Oh dear….I stepped into the HoT and General Forums for a look. There’s a lot of hype over Support, Tanks, and the death of the Meta.

Frankly I’m just curious if they’re going to go back through all the content so far and add the new conditions and boons to enemies. I have a feeling the dungeons we know will be left alone or retouched in minor ways.

Nothing has seemed very ground breaking about any of it though. Actually seems more like these changes will have a lot more impact in PvP.

Edit : Sheesh it still takes me an hour to be allowed to respond! Yeah. I commented on something but wasn’t really able to stay in there for very long.

Kinda felt like Sam and Frodo in Mordor wearing that Orc armor and trying not to get skewered.

Saint.5647:

the death of the Meta.

Oh dear.
Spare me, please.
I beg…

Oh and yes I thought the same thing, a class made to push their e-sports agenda?
Possible. Looking forward to more info on this class,
fingers crossed for a power/precision based ‘legendary’ skill set.

I find the reveal to be quite interesting, but I’m hungry for more information about it. Especially how it’ll fare in terms of spanking baddies compared to the others. :>

I joined a meta gear check party…
17 legendaries and this guy still hasn’t got it worked out.

Edit: Colesy’s been slacking obviously because there’s an epidemic going on.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

Oh holy hell.

Edit: Same rating as engi?! pvx was never this bad… (Sure, on pvx you knew that builds labeled “good” were not actually very good, but there wasn’t this kind of inconsistency.)

What is this thing O.O

Vampirism runes #1

That’s what happens when it’s an open community voting. Baddies think it’s good and put it to the top.

Well, good isn’t the top (and there are two mesmer builds ranked great—one’s a little wonky, but at least it’s not half soldier’s with vampirism or three mantras without empowering mantras). This probably shouldn’t even be at good, but at least it’s not at great.

My real problem is that this is also ranked only good: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Engineer_-_Power_Grenadier

Ive been ignoring metabattle since it first appeared. No idea why people jumped to support it. It was obvious what kind of direction it would eventually take.

^ Ever since I found out about the gw2dungeons build section, that’s all I use. Those guides are fantastic. Sometimes a carefully curated collection is better than a crowd-sourced one. Dictatorship > Democracy in this instance :P

I only touch metabattle when I make my yearly attempt at PvP/WvW, but that’s pretty much it.

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

spoj.9672:

Ive been ignoring metabattle since it first appeared. No idea why people jumped to support it. It was obvious what kind of direction it would eventually take.

I was more optimistic, because pvx was good. But metabattle hasn’t worked out nearly as well.

Copy and paste, boys. Copy and paste.

maha.7902:

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

Seconded, what the kitten did I just see?

Lindbur.2537:

Copy and paste, boys. Copy and paste.

maha.7902:

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

Seconded, what the kitten did I just see?

You know what was interesting, is that with the meta ones listed, they have videos and stuff to accompany them from well known players. This build however, no one’s stepping up. Hmmm. Wish they did ;)

maha.7902:

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

… ugh metabattle. I want to like it, but now I know why I was seeing so many GS mesmers.

That taunt system worries me. I worked a lot to be a good guardian ( still learning, but I’m reliable in dungeons), and one of the things I love doing is using binding blades efficiently. Now, all the bad will just use their taunt skill and my job will be ruined. Also, kittening rp tanks everywhere. Meh.

It won’t really change things much for the day-to-day. You’ll get the surge in supportive tank attempts and the subsequent crying on the forums when they realize that Taunt is reverse Fear.

It’s not like Taunt will be automatic or anything so it will likely skill cost a utility slot. At best, it will have niche uses like the occasional Fear Me or may replace Scorpion Wire for some niche pulling.

I still see this shaking things up much more in PvP than it ever could in GW2 PvE Vanilla. Seems to me a lot of these changes are temporary hard counters in PvP.

J Eberle.9312:

Oh and yes I thought the same thing, a class made to push their e-sports agenda?
Possible. Looking forward to more info on this class,
fingers crossed for a power/precision based ‘legendary’ skill set.

Maybe not the class as a whole but the new boons and effects just seem niche in PvE at best while perhaps game changing in PvP.

Oh yeah, I hope so too. I would be shocked if there wasn’t.

Got kicked 3 times in a row from (exp fullzerk) arah parties immediately after joining because my ap is <1000. They didn’t even greet back and just kicked me ._.

Anyways I’m looking for a video of an engi p2/p3 solo. Searched on youtube but didn’t find a good one.

If I get the motivation here any time soon I may try and learn Alphard and get one out there. I just never liked alphard except on my mesmer, so I’ve usually just invited people after I finish through lupi

So, my game deinstalled itself over night. Really nice, really..

Been pugging on my 1k AP alt account in NA and it’s been great, no kicks or anything heck I even joined a zerk ping gear and it was fine lol. Obviously I’ve been avoiding the 5k+ AP groups but yeah I’m not really seeing the toxicity :S. Maybe I’m just lucky.

I got destroyed on reddit lol. Wintertime sadness xD

I kittening love these guys in the API CDI. Like, honest answers, straightforward discussion, and real communication. Not sanitized PC bullkitty non-answers, but actual discussion towards a common goal.

Amazing. Didn’t think this company was capable of such things.

dlonie.6547:

I kittening love these guys in the API CDI. Like, honest answers, straightforward discussion, and real communication. Not sanitized PC bullkitty non-answers, but actual discussion towards a common goal.

Amazing. Didn’t think this company was capable of such things.

That’s because the API program is actually collaborative and community driven, as opposed to normal game content which is a “take it or leave it” proposition.

Jerus.4350:

maha.7902:

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

… ugh metabattle. I want to like it, but now I know why I was seeing so many GS mesmers.

Hey! The one and truly mesmer build is rated Great thx to my and frifox’s input. But I haven’t checked it for 3 months iirc. (signature)

Edit : Never kittening mind, it’s rated Good.
Upon invesigation. The rating is decided by one individual, Chase (he moved the mesmer build from Meta to Great and today to Good). Won’t even bother to keep track of metabattle. What the kitten even, how can a build become outdated if nothing changes in the meta?

He even classified 6/6/0/0/2 and 2/6/0/6/0 as equal, “Good” builds. I get a sense that he doesn’t know kitten.

hybrid.5027:

dlonie.6547:

I kittening love these guys in the API CDI. Like, honest answers, straightforward discussion, and real communication. Not sanitized PC bullkitty non-answers, but actual discussion towards a common goal.

Amazing. Didn’t think this company was capable of such things.

That’s because the API program is actually collaborative and community driven, as opposed to normal game content which is a “take it or leave it” proposition.

Exactly, and it’s wonderful. I wish they’d take this approach more often

Also, API consumers seem to be less obnoxious about hearing their ideas are infeasable than your average player (poster?) and meet such responses with constructive discussion, rather than rage and ad hominems. I’m sure that makes it easier for them to open up and be honest.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Jerus.4350:

maha.7902:

hybrid.5027:

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_The_Mantra_Way

This is why.

Somehow this became a “good” build for the dungeon community. I don’t know how to downvote this on that site but it needs to be removed ASAP.

where is the downvote button

this build needs to be downvoted in to extinction

… ugh metabattle. I want to like it, but now I know why I was seeing so many GS mesmers.

Hey! The one and truly mesmer build is rated Great thx to my and frifox’s input. But I haven’t checked it for 3 months iirc. (signature)

Edit : Never kittening mind, it’s rated Good.
Upon invesigation. The rating is decided by one individual, Chase (he moved the mesmer build from Meta to Great and today to Good). Won’t even bother to keep track of metabattle. What the kitten even, how can a build become outdated if nothing changes in the meta?

Drama in the cooking!

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Upon invesigation. The rating is decided by one individual, Chase

Well, I guess this explains why metabattle isn’t as good as pvx was. Sad.

fishball.7204:

Been pugging on my 1k AP alt account in NA and it’s been great, no kicks or anything heck I even joined a zerk ping gear and it was fine lol. Obviously I’ve been avoiding the 5k+ AP groups but yeah I’m not really seeing the toxicity :S. Maybe I’m just lucky.

You’re on NA. People seem to care less about that stuff for most dungeons on NA, or at least take enough time that you can explain why the AP is low before you get kicked. Or maybe you’re just lucky.

On EU, my <1k ap account literally gets instantly booted. I pre-type a message about why my account has low AP so I can send it right after joining, and sometimes I don’t even get that sent before I’m kicked out of the party. I’ve even been kicked from an all welcome AC story pug on EU (and I was level 80 at the time… lol). Maybe I’m just unlucky.

Zui.9245:

Maybe I’m just unlucky.

Nah. EU is the hive of scum and villainy and NA is twitch.

The stream was pretty nice !

Projectile abosption on ranged weapon hype.
Fire field, triple-blast on condition weapon hype.

revenant2k15meta

Edit : Wyvern instance hype

Incoming Wyvern solo hype

edit: I mean he said 5 people like him could do it but still. One can dream~

Unless it has phases, looks straigh forward.

Laulajatar.4253:

What is this thing O.O

Has anyone seen the “warr at shaman in pugs” build in metabattle?
Just figured I’d ask. It’s pretty funny.
Whoever runs metabattle is a huge idiot. I can understand ranger’s build not being in meta, but the guardian’s? L.O.L.

Anyway, I hope rev’s got low base damage because its utility seems to be a little off. I doubt it’ll trump any half-decent guardian, but mesmers? rangers? Hm.
And what’s up with the 3 blasts on mace? Not that it matters so much unless they buff condi based stuff (and they won’t)…
/shakes head
I won’t complain, I’m getting my awesome staff so I can heal better with druidy support. It’s good, right?
After all, if they kitten up all my favourite classes I can always switch gear and play rev.
/silently thanks Fen’Harel for acctbound ascended gear

P.S. inb4 Solas breaks my heart and I almost end up in tears. The xpac won’t come out soon enough.

P.P.S Why is the “war at shaman” build in great and some meta builds in good?

lksaar.8065:

Anyways I’m looking for a video of an engi p2/p3 solo. Searched on youtube but didn’t find a good one.

Did my first P2 solo in 5+ months just for you bae <3
http://youtu.be/qhm93zOMwbs

Belka can be done less lazily using triple kit + your crate turrets to tank it, but you need to maintain pretty high DPS (expensive food + stacks) else you’ll probably need to out of combat at least once.

Alphard can almost certainly be done much faster using Bombs/Flamethrower/Toolkit or Elixir Gun + Rifle, but I don’t really plan on solo’ing Alphard again soon enough to compare times.

What’s with this stability change? Seen some posts on it but I’m simply unwilling to watch long youtube videos of devs talking about stuff I mainly don’t care about.

Jerus.4350:

What’s with this stability change? Seen some posts on it but I’m simply unwilling to watch long youtube videos of devs talking about stuff I mainly don’t care about.

From what i understand we won’t get continuous stability anymore, but it will come in stacks. For example if you get 1 stack of stability you can avoid just 1 knockback, so after the changes a group can coordinate cc to take down an oponent that has stability.

Casmurro.9046:

Jerus.4350:

What’s with this stability change? Seen some posts on it but I’m simply unwilling to watch long youtube videos of devs talking about stuff I mainly don’t care about.

From what i understand we won’t get continuous stability anymore, but it will come in stacks. For example if you get 1 stack of stability you can avoid just 1 knockback, so after the changes a group can coordinate cc to take down an oponent that has stability.

I guess that isn’t bad, curious if how the old stability skills will work, with Stand your Ground give just one stack? Will that make it basically ineffective? What about Hallowed grounds?

I had seen it mentioned as similar to blind, so I was worried that even if you stacked them they’d all dissipate after one counter of CC.

They said they’ll re-balance old Stability skills to give multiple stacks.

As far as metabattle goes, it is poorly managed and one of the dungeon community should become mod over there.

deSade.9437:

P.P.S Why is the “war at shaman” build in great and some meta builds in good?

Meta is supposed to be an independent rating, not one of effectiveness, but just whether the build is what the community at large considers the meta. The good/great ratings are supposed to be the actual evaluation.

Of course, it looks like everything’s nonsense at metabattle. Oh well.

So it’s basically the votes of the majority establishing if somethin’s meta or not. Awesome… I can totally see why the builds are so messed up.
I forgot to keep in mind that 90% of players in this game are kinda bronze/silver league. Owell.
P.S. White or red eyes?

hybrid.5027:

dlonie.6547:

I kittening love these guys in the API CDI. Like, honest answers, straightforward discussion, and real communication. Not sanitized PC bullkitty non-answers, but actual discussion towards a common goal.

Amazing. Didn’t think this company was capable of such things.

That’s because the API program is actually collaborative and community driven, as opposed to normal game content which is a “take it or leave it” proposition.

Meanwhile 99,5% of gw2’s api are absolutely useless. Who the kitten needs an API for item descriptions??? After all there is gw2w with more accurate information.

I want an API for combat log…

Or enemy skills…