Guild Wars 2

Since line casting was discussed awhile back and a regular here asked how, I made a video on it that might be useful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJncPGDJ9Ho

It takes a special kind of boredom for me to resort to this sort of behavior.
Needless to say I was kicked immediately afterwards

Lelouch.8745:

It takes a special kind of boredom for me to resort to this sort of behavior.
Needless to say I was kicked immediately afterwards

Those filthy elitist ruining the game with their toxic attitude. You should totally go make a thread on the general discussion to let everyone know about this.

Taku.6352:

Lelouch.8745:

It takes a special kind of boredom for me to resort to this sort of behavior.
Needless to say I was kicked immediately afterwards

Those filthy elitist ruining the game with their toxic attitude. You should totally go make a thread on the general discussion to let everyone know about this.

Please don’t make me go back there.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/List-of-Common-Controversial-Forum-Topics/first#dpsmeter
I saw this and now I want to throw myself into a river.

Zui.9245:

Since line casting was discussed awhile back and a regular here asked how, I made a video on it that might be useful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJncPGDJ9Ho

Very nice guide, and btw, does that DnT tag mean you passed your test? if so, grats

Last night, my little brother shared me this “Wall of Hate” which he has accumulated over the years of diligent pugging. I’m not sure whether he would post the image himself at some points but I couldn’t resist

I want to add a bit of background information. This “little brother” I have always mentioned is a junior fellow countryman of mine who has helped me a great deal since my noobie days. He is a highly skilled player in all classes yet still a humble and avid student of the [Noob] mentoring program. In short, he is the kind of meta player with a casual experience. His LFG usually reads “80 experienced, DPS, meta or close to meta only”, which hilariously attracts all sorts of imaginable hostility. Plus, this guys is a bit of a tease with his explosive passive-aggressiveness. He never kicks anyone for being bad, but his speech may or may not have pushed them off the cliff

I want to dedicate this Wall of Hate to our dungeon community on this ThanksGiving occasion.

I’m free! Well, now I’m stuck with even longer FC… this entertainment could get expensive. >_>

Iris Ng.9845:

Last night, my little brother shared me this “Wall of Hate” which he has accumulated over the years of diligent pugging. I’m not sure whether he would post the image himself at some points but I couldn’t resist

I want to add a bit of background information. This “little brother” I have always mentioned is a junior fellow countryman of mine who has helped me a great deal since my noobie days. He is a highly skilled player in all classes yet still a humble and avid student of the [Noob] mentoring program. In short, he is the kind of meta player with a casual experience. His LFG usually reads “80 experienced, DPS, meta or close to meta only”, which hilariously attracts all sorts of imaginable hostility. Plus, this guys is a bit of a tease with his explosive passive-aggressiveness. He never kicks anyone for being bad, but his speech may or may not have pushed them off the cliff

I want to dedicate this Wall of Hate to our dungeon community on this ThanksGiving occasion.

:/ well then.. dungeon PuG can become that way?

Which way you mean?

To me there are both sides of the coin and PuG game is more like a social experiment than playing a dungeon. I’m just amused at how people can resort to verbally demean others when opinions clash. In a certain case, it does seem pretty civil, but in most cases, it blows my mind.

Then it comes into question: How often and differently each dungeon regular obtains his own Wall of Hate? How patient you can stay to keep pugging?

Hate like that would get to me and I would stop; I guess I have been quite lucky with my fractal runs.

So it seems in eu high AP is valued more than your gear, build, proper utilities, and being generally nice.

Lelouch.8745:

It takes a special kind of boredom for me to resort to this sort of behavior.
Needless to say I was kicked immediately afterwards

hmm this looks fun.

!!!

are you an undercover anet employee?!? trying to get it to buy a new 50% off account so we can have low AP to troll these “elitists”. I see right through you!

Iris Ng.9845:

Last night, my little brother shared me this “Wall of Hate” which he has accumulated over the years of diligent pugging. I’m not sure whether he would post the image himself at some points but I couldn’t resist

I want to add a bit of background information. This “little brother” I have always mentioned is a junior fellow countryman of mine who has helped me a great deal since my noobie days. He is a highly skilled player in all classes yet still a humble and avid student of the [Noob] mentoring program. In short, he is the kind of meta player with a casual experience. His LFG usually reads “80 experienced, DPS, meta or close to meta only”, which hilariously attracts all sorts of imaginable hostility. Plus, this guys is a bit of a tease with his explosive passive-aggressiveness. He never kicks anyone for being bad, but his speech may or may not have pushed them off the cliff

I want to dedicate this Wall of Hate to our dungeon community on this ThanksGiving occasion.

haha a nice collection. my favorite line: “We kinda did I think.” xD

frifox.5283:

So it seems in eu high AP is valued more than your gear, build, proper utilities, and being generally nice.

Is there any connection with more solo players in EU in general?

I can guarantee that the other side of the coin, will rarely receive such hate. I join and create “all welcome” type of lfgs all the time. No meta player has ever joined in to chastise players like that, and pleny of meta players do join these groups as well as noobs.

I guess it is no surprise to most of us who frequent dungeons to understand which side of this “elite” and “casual” playerbase is more inclined to go out of their way to abuse and create an environment of (oh got I hate using this word) …. toxicity.

(Casuals are by far more toxic, for those of you who are having trouble following along)

If someone gets THAT kind of hate (the one in the “wall of hate”) so often… it means that someone is the trigger. I used to be an explosively kitteny and aggressive teenager with uncontrollable anger issues and I was always in the middle of some heated argument, especially since I was a pvper (gasp) in gw1. The things that community did to me… like, I turned into a little monster. I was flaming and calling names 24/7. Now I’m not nicer, but I’m more withdrawn and overall lost any energies to argue since I became this pathetic shell of a man, so these things don’t really happen anymore. Whenever someone DARES to just say one single misplaced word in my party, /kick.
If people insult you like that and you’re NOT in pvp, it means 90% it’s on you.
It’s not about pugs, it’s not about casuals vs elitists, it’s not about EU pugs vs NA pugs. It’s about you.
I used to think everyone around me was stupid, too stupid to understand me and that I was different from them.
Now I know better… /sigh
You know, it would be easier, much easier, if I could convince myself that it’s not all a misunderstanding but I actually have something special they don’t have.

Iris Ng.9845:

Last night, my little brother shared me this “Wall of Hate” which he has accumulated over the years of diligent pugging. I’m not sure whether he would post the image himself at some points but I couldn’t resist

I want to add a bit of background information. This “little brother” I have always mentioned is a junior fellow countryman of mine who has helped me a great deal since my noobie days. He is a highly skilled player in all classes yet still a humble and avid student of the [Noob] mentoring program. In short, he is the kind of meta player with a casual experience. His LFG usually reads “80 experienced, DPS, meta or close to meta only”, which hilariously attracts all sorts of imaginable hostility. Plus, this guys is a bit of a tease with his explosive passive-aggressiveness. He never kicks anyone for being bad, but his speech may or may not have pushed them off the cliff

I want to dedicate this Wall of Hate to our dungeon community on this ThanksGiving occasion.

IM SO PROUD, IM IN ONE OF THOSE!!! (There’s a dnt guard build that used strength in numbers as a substitute.)

deSade.9437:

If someone gets THAT kind of hate (the one in the “wall of hate”) so often… it means that someone is the trigger. I used to be an explosively kitteny and aggressive teenager with uncontrollable anger issues and I was always in the middle of some heated argument, especially since I was a pvper (gasp) in gw1. The things that community did to me… like, I turned into a little monster. I was flaming and calling names 24/7. Now I’m not nicer, but I’m more withdrawn and overall lost any energies to argue since I became this pathetic shell of a man, so these things don’t really happen anymore. Whenever someone DARES to just say one single misplaced word in my party, /kick.
If people insult you like that and you’re NOT in pvp, it means 90% it’s on you.
It’s not about pugs, it’s not about casuals vs elitists, it’s not about EU pugs vs NA pugs. It’s about you.
I used to think everyone around me was stupid, too stupid to understand me and that I was different from them.
Now I know better… /sigh
You know, it would be easier, much easier, if I could convince myself that it’s not all a misunderstanding but I actually have something special they don’t have.

Create an lfg requiring meta build and gear. Then make them ping prove they fit the requirements. Then kick if they don’t. You will see these types of comments flow in more regularly than you think.

I’ve done it, I even put up ap requirements for a few months. You know how much people hate those. It was only me and my buddy, back then. Before I met spoj and all. I’ve never been harassed like that. Maybe because we were trying to be nice in “enforcing the law”, I don’t know. We can’t make a statistic, the 2 of us, so we’ll never know how things really are; we can only share our experiences. All I know is that people don’t snap at you often for no reason. That’s it. Maybe it’s a twisted, crazy reason you don’t condone, but still…
I lived it right on my skin. Sometimes you’re part of the problem. Not always, but sometimes.

I hear ya, there are many people out there who are an kitten when it comes to filtering out player for meta in the LFG. I was a part of that for a time as well. Some of the PMs that appeared in my chatbox was definitely warranted. But for a time I was very polite when kicking other players, even then the negativity in the replies didn’t reduce by that much.

This is how I eventually came just not caring about looking for meta people any more when I pug. The frustration from receiving those types of remarks just isn’t worth it. I dont’ mind waiting longer for a group of like-minded players, but when these players decide to be a pain in my butt just for doing so? “All welcome” it is.

No bitterness here because playing with terrible pugs is actually more interesting and fun now xD. As for us not being enough for creating a solid statistic, yea i can agree with that. But from my experience alone, I can at least say that getting unwarranted insults like this when you ask for Meta in the LFG can happen.

Sometimes its entertaining just to see how bad pugs are. Thats why i never use requirements when im pugging. Unless im short on time.

spoj.9672:

Sometimes its entertaining just to see how bad pugs are. Thats why i never use requirements when im pugging. Unless im short on time.

Should’ve seen that pug arah run Joey the Creator and i did months ago, 3 guards in super tank builds, healing stacks, staves everything! we kept pulling all the mobs at every skip and they just wouldn’t die it was insane, so after a while i asked the guys: do you ever use walls? So a minute later i see 2 walls of reflection next to each other reflecting all the drakes we had magically pulled, it was so epic sadly i failed to screen it…worst part is they were not trolling, they were dead serious, the dungeon ended in a pretty weird backstabbing/mutiny kind of manner actually come to think of it the run never ended… For them, they wanted to kick Joey so we kicked them xD.

I also gotta admit we were never in it to complete it, we were just trolling and goofing around doing stupid kitten.

Well, I’m pugging almost the whole time and it worked best for me to set up groups reading “zerker only, gearcheck”. The well known path will be usually done by 10-20 minutes. However, you’ll almost never find true berzerker’s gear, most people are using something non-optimal, like hoelbrak runes and such, but it’s better than to play with the “I play how I want” crowd. I’m on EU servers, so I don’t know if this applies to the NA servers as well.

spoj.9672:

Sometimes its entertaining just to see how bad pugs are. Thats why i never use requirements when im pugging. Unless im short on time.

I do this as well. My lfg’s are usually just “p1” for example. I rarely commit to “all paths” in case I land a truly terrible group.
Though with only 1k AP its very difficult to start runs, I usually have to join an existing one.

NA servers have a lot more kiddies on it who roid rage at the simplest things, I’ve learned not to say anything.

I have 2 question.
How it come that when I Pug with some of you (people from iV, rT, KING…) is it always on SE?
Has noob a secret code or something? Are you not allowed to say that you are the guild.from the official forum?

No idea what you mean by that. :P

For the records, whenever I was in my lil’ brother group, I tried to be fair and not ganged up on the person in his quarrel. More often than not, I got to be called out as " fat egirlfriend" (d’uh, mind you, your mighty Iris is drop-dead gorgeous), for acting familiar with my brother. It proves to me that these individuals already have this elitist anti-elitism mindset which triggers their explosive kitten anytime anywhere.

But then for those people who join the runs which specifically advertise to a certain type of play styles (meta) even though they disagree with such, do they deserve our silent tolerance? Wouldn’t our empathy just die off eventually? I stop pugging for these reasons.

In the end, I don’t know what is worse…

That thread in the players helping players about greatsword users is so toxic.. There’s some dense phiw in there.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/PVE-Healing-Shielding-Support-guardian/first#post4593876

O_o

Ryn.6459:

I have 2 question.
How it come that when I Pug with some of you (people from iV, rT, KING…) is it always on SE?
Has noob a secret code or something? Are you not allowed to say that you are the guild.from the official forum?

For some reason alot of my [iV] guys love SE. They simply do and Miku is their king!

SE is fun simply because it’s fast to do and gives decent loot from mobs and champion bags. Especially p2.

P2 is so much fun. Remember the time where I went for the record with friends!

oxtred.7658:

That thread in the players helping players about greatsword users is so toxic.. There’s some dense phiw in there.

Can’t find it!

CoE p2: the evolved husk. What is so special about mesmers that they’re expected to solo that fight? And what do you have to look out for if you do? I have to admit, I have never even tried to solo it, and most of the time when I’m in there with guildies the husk is down even bevor I know what’s going on .

Was mucking around in arah the other day. I got bored and started coating while my friends were running the path seriously. I decided to have a little fun and goat to the end boss of p2 and activated the fight so they got teleported just when lupi was in the middle of phase 2

GrimmR.3541:

oxtred.7658:

That thread in the players helping players about greatsword users is so toxic.. There’s some dense phiw in there.

Can’t find it!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Class-good-at-Greatswords

Prepare yourself before diving in.

Rasimir.6239:

CoE p2: the evolved husk. What is so special about mesmers that they’re expected to solo that fight? And what do you have to look out for if you do? I have to admit, I have never even tried to solo it, and most of the time when I’m in there with guildies the husk is down even bevor I know what’s going on .

If your party is smart enough to give you good amounts of swiftness you can run around the room aggro the golems and pull them to the Husk with temporal curtain. Goes faster than 4 people running around the room but still not as fast as 2 people in the opposite sides of the room with the guns.

Thanks for the explanation, Taku! The damage on the husk is mostly done by the exploding golems and doesn’t depend on my character’s stats, right? So I could change to my WvW armor (rabid with full traveler’s runes) to get a base 25% speed increase in case the swiftness runs out?

Rasimir.6239:

Thanks for the explanation, Taku! The damage on the husk is mostly done by the exploding golems and doesn’t depend on my character’s stats, right? So I could change to my WvW armor (rabid with full traveler’s runes) to get a base 25% speed increase in case the swiftness runs out?

As far as I know only thing affecting the dmg on it is the amount of vuln he has when a golem blows up next to him so feel free to put on your other set (provided it’s fashionable enough).

Well that was fun. One slight mention that gs mesmer isnt all that great for all aspects of pve and a swarm of white knights appear enraged and determined to make clear the importance of tagging mobs above all else. Calling tagging the one niche its good for obviously tickled them the wrong way.

Guardian staff is the best weapon in the game because its the best tagger in the game and 80% of content is tagging. /s

gw2dps updated

spoj.9672:

Well that was fun. One slight mention that gs mesmer isnt all that great for all aspects of pve and a swarm of white knights appear enraged and determined to make clear the importance of tagging mobs above all else. Calling tagging the one niche its good for obviously tickled them the wrong way.

Guardian staff is the best weapon in the game because its the best tagger in the game and 80% of content is tagging. /s

/s = serious. Correct?

Deadly serious.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/LFG-what-kind-of-players-ask-what-they-want

Astralporing.1957:

Iris Ng.9845:

Astralporing.1957:

spoj.9672:

Thats why i said niche situations. No need to take offense and go on the defensive.

So suddenly 80% of the content is niche? Interesting.

Sorry, I didn’t realize that 80% of players’ prime time is spent running around in zergs and tagging either.

I wasn’t speaking about tagging, nor were i speaking about some players “prime time”. I was talking about the game content – and in PvE most of the content is open world, not dungeons. And for that, gs is actually really good.
The fact, that some players’ “prime time” is devoted only to niche content doesn’t change that.

First, he retorts at spoj for saying tagging is niche then in his reply to me he just denies all of his logic.

Iris Ng.9845:

For those who enjoy Silverwaste like me, iDuelist is pretty sick with its safe-ish unloading range, iSwordman has a dodge and both weapons provide solid block/CC skills. They are particularly good against Mordrem Wolves who come in pack and constantly jump on you.

“I see a group of enemies coming, so I use two single-target skills which lose their effect once one of the targets die.” Logic? Tip: you don’t need any CC and blocks if a group of mobs have been mowed down by iZerker and Mind Stab before they even reach you, and if you do, you group them with Curtain pull, immobilize with iLeap and Blurred Frenzy to finish off.

Does it smell like an over-stretch to you? Because I highly doubt his scenario. I find the mix of mobs during both escort and defense events are fairly hard to group up and deal with iZerker, i.e. wolves, tegariff, root-thrasher. Unless he attacks the menders only :\

Mordrem dont even group up that much. So warden is probably better. People fail at logic when they get defensive for no justifiable reason.

Silverwastes events mobs don’t drop loot so “tagging” isn’t even relevant when discussing it.

Another valid point xD

DA:I is $45 on amazon today. Hummmmm….

dlonie.6547:

DA:I is $45 on amazon today. Hummmmm….

Totally worth it, been playing it since I piked it up on release at gamestop.