I appreciate this very much. You got no idea how troubled I feel with this being present. I could check it out myself, but considering what else I do around here, it would take me at least to week to confirm it.
Chris, thanks for taking the time to comment here. I was just saying in another thread how frustrating it was that we’ve heard very little in regards to what’s going on with the feature patch. I agree that a write up somewhere about what is intended and what is a bug is a must. That will help tremendously.
That being said, keep your chin up. I’m sure it’s been tough dealing with some of the anger directed your way, but you taking the time to respond can only help.
Chris, thanks for taking the time to comment here. I was just saying in another thread how frustrating it was that we’ve heard very little in regards to what’s going on with the feature patch. I agree that a write up somewhere about what is intended and what is a bug is a must. That will help tremendously.
That being said, keep your chin up. I’m sure it’s been tough dealing with some of the anger directed your way, but you taking the time to respond can only help.
Its all good, I understand. Thanks for your support (-:
Once it is as designed we will be discussing it for sure.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
Hey Phabby,
We just want to build a lasting connection. It isn’t about Calming the Storm it is about the CDI and the time to connect in a valuable way. We are working to create a sustainable model of communication. The feedback in some part has been excellent.
We care about the community a lot and need to do a better job in this regard.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Hello Chris. I am not sure if you are the right person I could ask for this job as the customer service thread doesn’t seem to tell me much, but this has something to do with the Personal Story.
Now I can understand rearranging certain chapters. I think I can live with it given time. But what caught my attention however is related to the quest A Light in the Darkness where you disabled the Your Greatest Fear portion of the quest, which in turn would disable the other quests related to that part (for example, the removal of Tonn and Apatia’s quests). I don’t know if this is really the case or not as I have finished Apatia’s quest after this patch was downloaded. I want to know if this is really true or not. And if so, I’d appreciate your insight as to why this happened.
Hey Malkavian,
Mind if i get back to you on this?
Chris
Is there any chance we could also get some insight on why the events in Orr or out of order?
(Sigurdas MoonEyes and Ronja) (Myrin Crowneguarde) (Yarza Steelfang) (Luqq) (Nevnia)
I respect how active you’ve been here Chris, it’s important in that it shows the company does understand the community has issues with the “improvements”.
I’ve played some of the NPE and can say, I think the rewards as you level are enjoyable, while other things that changed really really aren’t. While I don’t think it’s the end of life as we know it, like some forum goers do, I do think there are plenty of things that a good representation of players very clearly think has been done wrong and that should be taken very seriously by you folks. I do think that when there is a firestorm so big that plans for a CDI on guilds should have been put aside to deal with the feature pack instead. Like when you have plans for something but a fire breaks out in the kitchen, you really should put the other plan behind the kitchen fire in priority.
I understand these things take time, and people will be impatient, but I feel that as long as clear, regular communication takes place, showing that you’re listening to and interacting with the community, that I have real hope that some of our feedback will help fix things which have reduced the enjoyment the game brings.
Hello Chris. I am not sure if you are the right person I could ask for this job as the customer service thread doesn’t seem to tell me much, but this has something to do with the Personal Story.
Now I can understand rearranging certain chapters. I think I can live with it given time. But what caught my attention however is related to the quest A Light in the Darkness where you disabled the Your Greatest Fear portion of the quest, which in turn would disable the other quests related to that part (for example, the removal of Tonn and Apatia’s quests). I don’t know if this is really the case or not as I have finished Apatia’s quest after this patch was downloaded. I want to know if this is really true or not. And if so, I’d appreciate your insight as to why this happened.
Hey Malkavian,
Mind if i get back to you on this?
Chris
Is there any chance we could also get some insight on why the events in Orr or out of order?
I respect how active you’ve been here Chris, it’s important in that it shows the company does understand the community has issues with the “improvements”.
I’ve played some of the NPE and can say, I think the rewards as you level are enjoyable, while other things that changed really really aren’t. While I don’t think it’s the end of life as we know it, like some forum goers do, I do think there are plenty of things that a good representation of players very clearly think has been done wrong and that should be taken very seriously by you folks. I do think that when there is a firestorm so big that plans for a CDI on guilds should have been put aside to deal with the feature pack instead. Like when you have plans for something but a fire breaks out in the kitchen, you really should put the other plan behind the kitchen fire in priority.
I understand these things take time, and people will be impatient, but I feel that as long as clear, regular communication takes place, showing that you’re listening to and interacting with the community, that I have real hope that some of our feedback will help fix things which have reduced the enjoyment the game brings.
Agreed. Discussion is something i intend to have (-:
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post. For example take some of the new collections where a few players buy all of the supply of a very rng gated item that is needed for the collections. They literally help gate the brand new content for a large amount of players.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
same thing can happen on release if you play it later. While it might be an issue, what i noticed working with other PTRs, is the non PTR people always seemed surprised and shocked, which i never really understood, all you had to do was click the PTR subforum for many spoilers.
I honestly dont think its would be that much of an issue, but perhaps someone who is a very big living story person could say how it would effect them.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
same thing can happen on release if you play it later. While it might be an issue, what i noticed working with other PTRs, is the non PTR people always seemed surprised and shocked, which i never really understood, all you had to do was click the PTR subforum for many spoilers.
I honestly dont think its would be that much of an issue, but perhaps someone who is a very big living story person could say how it would effect them.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post.
you guys realize a ptr is a public testing realm, meaning everyone has access to it, and can freely share info if they choose? They wouldnt have any more advantage than they do now. Also ptrs tend to shift things like rewards/amounts/etc a lot from what i have seen.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
same thing can happen on release if you play it later. While it might be an issue, what i noticed working with other PTRs, is the non PTR people always seemed surprised and shocked, which i never really understood, all you had to do was click the PTR subforum for many spoilers.
I honestly dont think its would be that much of an issue, but perhaps someone who is a very big living story person could say how it would effect them.
I would cry )-:
Chris
lol you know everything beforehand anyhow, you work with the guys. If you dont, its probably due to willfull seperation from spoilers, which is probably what would happen anyhow.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
same thing can happen on release if you play it later. While it might be an issue, what i noticed working with other PTRs, is the non PTR people always seemed surprised and shocked, which i never really understood, all you had to do was click the PTR subforum for many spoilers.
I honestly dont think its would be that much of an issue, but perhaps someone who is a very big living story person could say how it would effect them.
I would cry )-:
Chris
lol you know everything beforehand anyhow, you work with the guys. If you dont, its probably due to willfull seperation from spoilers, which is probably what would happen anyhow.
I do. But if it is leaked we don’t get to experience it through the eyes of our friends.
some interesting reading the last few pages . I feel for Chris in here being the only one to really show up .
someone a page back said what about testing patches before they go live, which if you have been paying attention like the old garden gnome here, you would understand that they did have some ppl testing the new system and I think Colin or Mike even jumped into that thread on the subject of the testers, or someone close to them, using the information gained before patch release to control the market. everyone not happy about that one even the big boss.https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Insider-trading-is-kind-of-unfair/first
Back to the rest of the comments , I agree that even with the current level of communication from Chris and a few other devs, there should be some major input from the big guy Mike since just about every post currently up is so damming towards the game someone needs to be in here and take ownership of the situation.
I am pleased to see that GM Talon had taken the bull by the horns and created a thread for the patch so quickly after it went pear shape. This has shown me that you have learnt from the past mistakes of not addressing things as fast as you have this time.
Anyways cheers and great job Chris trying to calm the storm
if there was a ptr, or something similar, the info would be public knowledge, open to all, and ever changing, so no unfair advantages there
Hey Phys,
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
same thing can happen on release if you play it later. While it might be an issue, what i noticed working with other PTRs, is the non PTR people always seemed surprised and shocked, which i never really understood, all you had to do was click the PTR subforum for many spoilers.
I honestly dont think its would be that much of an issue, but perhaps someone who is a very big living story person could say how it would effect them.
I would cry )-:
Chris
lol you know everything beforehand anyhow, you work with the guys. If you dont, its probably due to willfull seperation from spoilers, which is probably what would happen anyhow.
I do. But if it is leaked i don’t get to experience it through the eyes of my friends.
Chris
Every release day I play with my guild on TS. It is awesome!
Well we take the story very seriously so therein lies the problem!
Chris
No offense is meant of course, Chris, but I don’t take the story too seriously. (For Dwayna’s grace, there existed the GW1 quest “Drakes on a Plain”!) I do like to keep it in mind, but . . .
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post.
you guys realize a ptr is a public testing realm, meaning everyone has access to it, and can freely share info if they choose? They wouldnt have any more advantage than they do now. Also ptrs tend to shift things like rewards/amounts/etc a lot from what i have seen.
I know what a PTR is. I also know there is a chance of it happening, where someone can identify what featured items are going to be high-ticket . . . and how to get them on Day One.
And I won ’t get into discussion over a PTR so much but I think a limited version of the open world which each player can drop into and not be connected to the rest of the game (say on a zone by zone basis) might be more useful than just dumping a live copy all together on there. Plus one extra PTR division/place for the LS instances.
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Well we take the story very seriously so therein lies the problem!
Chris
No offense is meant of course, Chris, but I don’t take the story too seriously. (For Dwayna’s grace, there existed the GW1 quest “Drakes on a Plain”!) I do like to keep it in mind, but . . .
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post.
you guys realize a ptr is a public testing realm, meaning everyone has access to it, and can freely share info if they choose? They wouldnt have any more advantage than they do now. Also ptrs tend to shift things like rewards/amounts/etc a lot from what i have seen.
I know what a PTR is. I also know there is a chance of it happening, where someone can identify what featured items are going to be high-ticket . . . and how to get them on Day One.
And I won ’t get into discussion over a PTR so much but I think a limited version of the open world which each player can drop into and not be connected to the rest of the game (say on a zone by zone basis) might be more useful than just dumping a live copy all together on there. Plus one extra PTR division/place for the LS instances.
There are big advantages to a PTR I agree. However lets save it for a CDI because it is quite complex.
There are definitely bugs and some external miscommunication with the system and I want to listen some more before discussing.
Chris
This is interesting.
Chris is saying there has been external miscommunication about the new system. Could it be that you guys realize you went too far with the removing of functions and level gating it too extreme, and it was not supposed to dumb down the game quite this much?
Hi Traveller,
No not really. I m referring to some videos etc that aren’t quite factually correct in all areas and thus there are some misconceptions being propagated by those that have not played the through NPE yet.
Chris
You mean the Magic Mike video? I played through the NPE and I found it to be pretty accurate from the point of view of a person playing on an alt.
Well it was at least incorrect in that he claimed the new patch was responsible for not being able to die in the tutorial instance, when that was true at least a year ago, when I discovered it. So not the new patch.
He did show that the compass in the charr area was broken. However, it isn’t broken in Queensdale. It worked perfectly.
So he found a bug and demonstrated it. Whee.
So you found ONE inaccuracy. Whee.
There are probably more..however the entire video is actually using humor to make fun of something most of which is a single bug that doesn’t affect Queensdale at all. It’s been used to assault a patch that is much larger than that one issue.
It muddies the whole patch situation. It’s not helpful. The whole bias is obvious from moment one. The video made the guy money, which I guess was his intention, but it was unfair, and didn’t help the game in any way shape or form.
That stuff will be fixed. The video won’t be forgotten.
Right, because Queensdale is the only starting zone in the game…
Actually the video covers more than just the compass. So yes, it does acknowledge that “the patch is much larger than this one issue.” If you’d actually watched the video, you’d know that.
And you can get rich off YouTube videos? I didn’t know that.
There are definitely bugs and some external miscommunication with the system and I want to listen some more before discussing.
Chris
This is interesting.
Chris is saying there has been external miscommunication about the new system. Could it be that you guys realize you went too far with the removing of functions and level gating it too extreme, and it was not supposed to dumb down the game quite this much?
Hi Traveller,
No not really. I m referring to some videos etc that aren’t quite factually correct in all areas and thus there are some misconceptions being propagated by those that have not played the through NPE yet.
Chris
You mean the Magic Mike video? I played through the NPE and I found it to be pretty accurate from the point of view of a person playing on an alt.
Well it was at least incorrect in that he claimed the new patch was responsible for not being able to die in the tutorial instance, when that was true at least a year ago, when I discovered it. So not the new patch.
He did show that the compass in the charr area was broken. However, it isn’t broken in Queensdale. It worked perfectly.
So he found a bug and demonstrated it. Whee.
So you found ONE inaccuracy. Whee.
There are probably more..however the entire video is actually using humor to make fun of something most of which is a single bug that doesn’t affect Queensdale at all. It’s been used to assault a patch that is much larger than that one issue.
It muddies the whole patch situation. It’s not helpful. The whole bias is obvious from moment one. The video made the guy money, which I guess was his intention, but it was unfair, and didn’t help the game in any way shape or form.
That stuff will be fixed. The video won’t be forgotten.
Right, because Queensdale is the only starting zone in the game…
Actually the video covers more than just the compass. So yes, it does acknowledge that “the patch is much larger than this one issue.” If you’d actually watched the video, you’d know that.
And you can get rich off YouTube videos? I didn’t know that.
Actually people have made careers off of using youtube……
There are definitely bugs and some external miscommunication with the system and I want to listen some more before discussing.
Chris
This is interesting.
Chris is saying there has been external miscommunication about the new system. Could it be that you guys realize you went too far with the removing of functions and level gating it too extreme, and it was not supposed to dumb down the game quite this much?
Hi Traveller,
No not really. I m referring to some videos etc that aren’t quite factually correct in all areas and thus there are some misconceptions being propagated by those that have not played the through NPE yet.
Chris
You mean the Magic Mike video? I played through the NPE and I found it to be pretty accurate from the point of view of a person playing on an alt.
Well it was at least incorrect in that he claimed the new patch was responsible for not being able to die in the tutorial instance, when that was true at least a year ago, when I discovered it. So not the new patch.
He did show that the compass in the charr area was broken. However, it isn’t broken in Queensdale. It worked perfectly.
So he found a bug and demonstrated it. Whee.
So you found ONE inaccuracy. Whee.
There are probably more..however the entire video is actually using humor to make fun of something most of which is a single bug that doesn’t affect Queensdale at all. It’s been used to assault a patch that is much larger than that one issue.
It muddies the whole patch situation. It’s not helpful. The whole bias is obvious from moment one. The video made the guy money, which I guess was his intention, but it was unfair, and didn’t help the game in any way shape or form.
That stuff will be fixed. The video won’t be forgotten.
Right, because Queensdale is the only starting zone in the game…
Actually the video covers more than just the compass. So yes, it does acknowledge that “the patch is much larger than this one issue.” If you’d actually watched the video, you’d know that.
And you can get rich off YouTube videos? I didn’t know that.
Actually people have made careers off of using youtube……
And those people have done a LOT more than a sarcastic GW2 vid. I was specifically referring to Vayne’s “the video made the guy money, which I guess was his intention,” comment.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
One of the advantages of having a large boxed expansion with a strong narrative and design focus with a complete plot, in addition to all the other benefits it brings.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
One of the advantages of having a large boxed expansion with a strong narrative and design focus with a complete plot, in addition to all the other benefits it brings.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
Well we take the story very seriously so therein lies the problem!
Chris
I am glad to hear that you take the story very seriously. Truth be told I was very seriously distraught when I heard about the changes to the Personal Story. I feel so bad for all the people who didn’t get a chance to fully experience it in all it’s original glory.
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What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
I don’t know that a PTR would really make market stuff more fair. I think you would actually want to disable things like Living World and market-affecting-info on a PTR. The main benefit of it, imo, would be to let us play with (and sometimes break) the stuff that has long-ranging effects. Like being able to help iron out bugs in the NPE might have been nice. Or being able to go on a PTR and play around with balance changes before they go live, so we can help catch anything that looks like it could work a bit better. That sort of thing.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
I don’t know that a PTR would really make market stuff more fair. I think you would actually want to disable things like Living World and market-affecting-info on a PTR. The main benefit of it, imo, would be to let us play with (and sometimes break) the stuff that has long-ranging effects. Like being able to help iron out bugs in the NPE might have been nice. Or being able to go on a PTR and play around with balance changes before they go live, so we can help catch anything that looks like it could work a bit better. That sort of thing.
the problem with disabling stuff on a test environment, is that you arent testing the actual interactions.
also, economic/reward stuff needs player review as well. Once againg there is no economic advantage to playing in a ptr, because its open to the public, people who want the info can look in the ptr forum, or reviews, and find out what is going on. Not only that but ptr often change these things due to feedback.
people suggest things like tokens, special drops, say rates are bad, etc. The people dont have an advantage the day of the main patch because everyone who wants to know, knows already.
the people who dont want to know, are the same people who tend to be behind the market anyhow.
Well its a suggestion i guess we ll see if it ever comes to more than just a suggestion
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
I don’t know that a PTR would really make market stuff more fair. I think you would actually want to disable things like Living World and market-affecting-info on a PTR. The main benefit of it, imo, would be to let us play with (and sometimes break) the stuff that has long-ranging effects. Like being able to help iron out bugs in the NPE might have been nice. Or being able to go on a PTR and play around with balance changes before they go live, so we can help catch anything that looks like it could work a bit better. That sort of thing.
You’ve essentially described a PTR right there, to a degree. Essentially a copy of the game that serves a purpose for players to typically test features that would change the core mechanics or bring about some other big change (Say for instance, new weapon type, race, or class) and we report out it, giving constructive feedback. I personally like the idea of having a PTR being held when big features or changes are coming to the game, so that we can get a feel of it before it hits the main servers.
I know some are concerned about whether ArenaNet is communicating with you and listening and responding to your feedback. As you saw with yesterday’s announcement, we do. All of us at ArenaNet play the game with you, chat with you and read your forum posts, and work on the things that we think will most delight and entertain you.
See you in-game,
Mike O’Brien
and what delight and entertainment are we supposed to take from this latest “feature patch”?
and what delight and entertainment are we supposed to take from this latest “feature patch”?
Whatever you see fit to go out and do.
For me, it’s tracking down collections on my veterans and playing with my Ranger more often now to see what they did to mess up my favorite class this time.
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I know on the patch notes it indicates that it focuses on helping Trahearne cleanse Orr and defeating Zhaitan. However, it doesn’t really specify in detail what does he mean by that. I think even the content designer Jeffrey Vaughn may not be on the same page as those who are expressing their complaints with the Personal Story. There also seems to be some mixed comments saying that they have confirmed that the “Greatest Fear” portion of the storyline was indeed removed and there are those that say that this is a bug which needs to be remedied ASAP.
The NPE is fine and all, but I think that if it means removing bits of the story that have been present in the game for 2 years, that’s just something I do not tolerate in the slightest. I would understand though that if it was not mentioned on the Story Journal so long as that event was played out in the game itself.
I look forward to you helping me, and the other members of the community who care about the story into giving us more insight regarding this and if possible get this fixed.
More or less when the change to dungeon ownership was announced we were assured that people abusing it to steal instances would be banned. Now we’re being told that’s not the case and unless they can be proven to be habitual in their ways nothing will happen. Is this really the company policy? It’s quite disheartening to see how the tone has changed in such a short time.
There are big advantages to a PTR I agree. However lets save it for a CDI because it is quite complex.
Chris
Are you suggesting one of those is incoming with that topic? I’ll have to rope my brother into talking with me about his experiences on PTRs.
If you all want to. NPE discussion first though (-:
Chris
Does his mean you have an ETA for a CDI revolving around the NPE? or just that a PTR discussion will have to wait until the NPE has had its time in the forums?
Currently the CDI is for Guild logistics and improved quality of life. So it’s more on the improving the social aspect of the game this time. The NPE discussion is basically what we are talking about on the general forums, I would say as there is plenty of feedback to be had, good and bad.
What about folks knowing the plot of Living World for example and leaking it?
Chris
What’s there to leak? “Dragon of the jungle shows up, wrecks people’s sheet, and we kill it.”
I’m more worried about people using the PTR data to work the Trading Post.
I cannot emphasize how important this is when this game is so ingrained with using the tp for every….EVERY…..reward. A few other players can have a massive effect on a tremendous amount of other players via the trading post.
you guys realize a ptr is a public testing realm, meaning everyone has access to it, and can freely share info if they choose? They wouldnt have any more advantage than they do now. Also ptrs tend to shift things like rewards/amounts/etc a lot from what i have seen.
My comment wasn’t really about leaking info so much as it was about the inability for players to garner rewards due to rather severe rng. That rng gating is also the reason those rewards are as susceptible to individuals utilizing the tp for gains.
If players had more reasonable means to work towards obtaining rewards w/o the need to resort to the tp, timing would not have such a large impact on the masses.
I understand the role of the tp and what it allows, but also I don’t know how I feel when it dominates in what I thought as supposed to be an action mmo rpg.
There are definitely bugs and some external miscommunication with the system and I want to listen some more before discussing.
Chris
This is interesting.
Chris is saying there has been external miscommunication about the new system. Could it be that you guys realize you went too far with the removing of functions and level gating it too extreme, and it was not supposed to dumb down the game quite this much?
Hi Traveller,
No not really. I m referring to some videos etc that aren’t quite factually correct in all areas and thus there are some misconceptions being propagated by those that have not played the through NPE yet.
Chris
You mean the Magic Mike video? I played through the NPE and I found it to be pretty accurate from the point of view of a person playing on an alt.
Well it was at least incorrect in that he claimed the new patch was responsible for not being able to die in the tutorial instance, when that was true at least a year ago, when I discovered it. So not the new patch.
He did show that the compass in the charr area was broken. However, it isn’t broken in Queensdale. It worked perfectly.
So he found a bug and demonstrated it. Whee.
So you found ONE inaccuracy. Whee.
There are probably more..however the entire video is actually using humor to make fun of something most of which is a single bug that doesn’t affect Queensdale at all. It’s been used to assault a patch that is much larger than that one issue.
It muddies the whole patch situation. It’s not helpful. The whole bias is obvious from moment one. The video made the guy money, which I guess was his intention, but it was unfair, and didn’t help the game in any way shape or form.
That stuff will be fixed. The video won’t be forgotten.
Right, because Queensdale is the only starting zone in the game…
Actually the video covers more than just the compass. So yes, it does acknowledge that “the patch is much larger than this one issue.” If you’d actually watched the video, you’d know that.
And you can get rich off YouTube videos? I didn’t know that.
Not necessarily “rich” but some people do seem to use it as one of their main source of income. Another source would probably include Twitch subscriptions.
Thanks for the chat last night it was a lot of fun. Just to let you know I am very busy all day and am doing WvW tonight so I might not be posting until tomorrow. I will do my best though. Meanwhile I am catching up.
Thanks for the chat last night it was a lot of fun. Just to let you know I am very busy all day and am doing WvW tonight so I might not be posting until tomorrow. I will do my best though. Meanwhile I am catching up.
Chris
WvW huh? Bag a couple terrible rangers tonight, okay?
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I’ll have to rope my brother into talking with me about his experiences on PTRs.