Guild Wars 2

Hey we almost forgot about dueling!
Will this feature ever be implented? Are there any plans for duels ingame now that more than a year has passed?

I think dueling is for spvp and wvw (all though wvw is a bit harder to get a good duel with ppl you know may be added in a system to let ppl changes sides say in OS). I think the ideal is to keep spvp wvw and pve all in there own zones.

The problem with dueling is, it wont be skill based or competitive.
Because the player who has the best PvE gear and access to all traits and skills will have an advantage to change tactics against the player who doesn’t.

Most people I know who take PvP seriously wont duel anyways, unless it’s in the sPvP arena where all players are truly equal in terms of having access to everything they need to strategies against their opponent.

DreamyAbaddon.3265:

The problem with dueling is, it wont be skill based or competitive.
Because the player who has the best PvE gear and access to all traits and skills will have an advantage to change tactics against the player who doesn’t.

Most people I know who take PvP seriously wont duel anyways, unless it’s in the sPvP arena where all players are truly equal in terms of having access to everything they need to strategies against their opponent.

You make it sound like getting access to all traits and skills is hard o_O

If they add it, they need to add a feature so I can auto decline all duels. If I wanna duel I will join WvWvW or sPvP. Not in my open world please.

mrauls.6519:

DreamyAbaddon.3265:

The problem with dueling is, it wont be skill based or competitive.
Because the player who has the best PvE gear and access to all traits and skills will have an advantage to change tactics against the player who doesn’t.

Most people I know who take PvP seriously wont duel anyways, unless it’s in the sPvP arena where all players are truly equal in terms of having access to everything they need to strategies against their opponent.

You make it sound like getting access to all traits and skills is hard o_O

^-^ My bad…
What I’m trying to say is, most PvP players I know only care about competitive PvP in equal grounds that they wont care about getting all that stuff from PvE in the first place. It can be very hard for a PvP player to play PvE contents he/she does not enjoy.

There for, dueling already happens in t-PvP arenas because of the accessibility to get right into the game rather than having to play contents you might not like just to do one that you do.

Not sure if that helped clear what I was saying or not.

Edit: And the fact that anyone can do that, kinda means it’s pointless to add dueling, is what Im getting at.

hey i love these threads! Watch as forum-goers perform daring feats of mental gymnastics to justify why dueling would be unsuitable for GW2 and why no one wants it!

+1 I would love for open world duels to be added. I would also love to see particle effects be fixed and all the other issues people have been complaining about since release. But at this point i’ve learned to keep my head down and keep checking achievements off the list like the game is intended to be played.

DreamyAbaddon.3265:

mrauls.6519:

DreamyAbaddon.3265:

The problem with dueling is, it wont be skill based or competitive.
Because the player who has the best PvE gear and access to all traits and skills will have an advantage to change tactics against the player who doesn’t.

Most people I know who take PvP seriously wont duel anyways, unless it’s in the sPvP arena where all players are truly equal in terms of having access to everything they need to strategies against their opponent.

You make it sound like getting access to all traits and skills is hard o_O

^-^ My bad…
What I’m trying to say is, most PvP players I know only care about competitive PvP in equal grounds that they wont care about getting all that stuff from PvE in the first place. It can be very hard for a PvP player to play PvE contents he/she does not enjoy.

There for, dueling already happens in t-PvP arenas because of the accessibility to get right into the game rather than having to play contents you might not like just to do one that you do.

Not sure if that helped clear what I was saying or not.

Edit: And the fact that anyone can do that, kinda means it’s pointless to add dueling, is what Im getting at.

+1 I like how you were friendly

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

MrPhazon.1370:

Hey we almost forgot about dueling!
Will this feature ever be implented? Are there any plans for duels ingame now that more than a year has passed?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Open-world-Duels-Merged
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Let-us-duel
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Duel-coming
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Duel-option
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/Duel-Option
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Having-a-duel-feature
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Why-can-t-we-Duel
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Dueling-where-is-it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Old-School-Dueling-System
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Duels-1vs1

It’s been discussed before….

yeah the last post was like 2 months ago. i think it’s fair to see whats up after 2 months and roughly 4-5 patches. This thread is probably just gunna get merged into the duels-megathread/graveyard.

Well there is actually no good reason to not have the option of duels. People who don’t want / need this feature will probably never even notice it’s there. However, it looks like either not enough people actually want it or the demanding masses are busy with more serious stuff.
Chances are this topic will get ignored to death and then burried.

im for dueling since day 1 and all iv get so far is pay us whit gems so we allow u to duel in s PVP whic i totaly and aboslity hate from the bottom of my hearth

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

There is a very good reason as to why there is no dueling in the game.

The game is balanced around 5v5 not 1v1.
Dueling would lead to massive amounts of threads with people whining about how X is much better than Y and how it is impossible to defeat A with B and so on.

Scrambles.2604:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

MrPhazon.1370:

Hey we almost forgot about dueling!
Will this feature ever be implented? Are there any plans for duels ingame now that more than a year has passed?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Open-world-Duels-Merged
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Let-us-duel
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Duel-coming
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Duel-option
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/Duel-Option
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Having-a-duel-feature
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Why-can-t-we-Duel
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Dueling-where-is-it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/suggestions/Old-School-Dueling-System
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Duels-1vs1

It’s been discussed before….

yeah the last post was like 2 months ago. i think it’s fair to see whats up after 2 months and roughly 4-5 patches. This thread is probably just gunna get merged into the duels-megathread/graveyard.

Except it is against the forums rules to create duplicate threads no matter how old they are. If your going to create a duplicate thread knowing it will me merged, then you should be posting in the merged thread in the first place. As to seeing “whats up” nothing has changed since release, no matter how many threads are made, the responses are still the same. You know what they say, asking the same question over and over again and expecting a different answer is a sign of insanity.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

You know what they say, asking the same question over and over again and expecting a different answer is a sign of insanity.

So many insane people... I blame the chemicals…

lordkrall.7241:

There is a very good reason as to why there is no dueling in the game.

The game is balanced around 5v5 not 1v1.
Dueling would lead to massive amounts of threads with people whining about how X is much better than Y and how it is impossible to defeat A with B and so on.

A) Pretty sure that’s speculation
B) We already have massive amounts of X is better than Y. Nothing to lose.

Hopefully not.

The last thing a game needs is 12yo kids spreading the "1v1 me I #rekt you m8" around.

We already have dueling in this game. Holy kitten keep up.

I hope open world dueling NEVER happens, in its own arena is kewl.

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

Colin Johanson mentions adding open world duels in this interview…it really couldn’t be a more straightforward answer either, haha. He says it at 14:11, the link wont start at that time for some reason.

Scrambles.2604:

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

Colin Johanson mentions adding open world duels in this interview…it really couldn’t be a more straightforward answer either, haha. He says it at 14:11, the link wont start at that time for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7CcwnfUdU

Thank You for that.

Pretty solid indication that it is something on ANet’s to do list, even if not at the top of the list. People who are interested in open world dueling should maintain some degree of presence, through forum posts and the like, to show that desire for the feature has not faded.

Man what the heck, A-Net adds quaggan tonics after 1 thread discussing about it, but doesn’t add dueling after several threads since release. :C

Avascar.9237:

Man what the heck, A-Net adds quaggan tonics after 1 thread discussing about it, but doesn’t add dueling after several threads since release. :C

Because the threads discussing it have more people who do not want it then do. The majority of players responding have said they do not want open world dueling and as long as we keep letting the devs know we do not want it hopefully we never will. That’s the one good thing about these never ending threads, they actually help to keep dueling away.

Scrambles.2604:

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

Colin Johanson mentions adding open world duels in this interview…it really couldn’t be a more straightforward answer either, haha. He says it at 14:11, the link wont start at that time for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7CcwnfUdU

Listen to it again he very well says “SOME DAY we would like to see it” but NOTHING definitive was said about it. So haha back atcha.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Scrambles.2604:

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

Colin Johanson mentions adding open world duels in this interview…it really couldn’t be a more straightforward answer either, haha. He says it at 14:11, the link wont start at that time for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7CcwnfUdU

Listen to it again he very well says “SOME DAY we would like to see it” but NOTHING definitive was said about it. So haha back atcha.

What else can you take away from that? He says it is a feature he “would like to add some day” but apparently has no specific or current plans to do so. I imagine adding dueling would take a good amount of effort.

He also acknowledges that you can do it in a round about way through custom arenas, but calls it “awkward.” Why else would he call it awkward unless he recognizes its not an optimal feature than can use improving??

Why do you care if open world dueling gets implemented? No one’s going to force you to duel if you don’t want to, jeez.

Scrambles.2604:

hey i love these threads! Watch as forum-goers perform daring feats of mental gymnastics to justify why dueling would be unsuitable for GW2 and why no one wants it!

+1 I would love for open world duels to be added. I would also love to see particle effects be fixed and all the other issues people have been complaining about since release. But at this point i’ve learned to keep my head down and keep checking achievements off the list like the game is intended to be played.

Hear, hear!

In for duels.

Mazreal Blackknight.1564:

If they add it, they need to add a feature so I can auto decline all duels. If I wanna duel I will join WvWvW or sPvP. Not in my open world please.

Open world is the best place for duels! Instead of a Decline option, how about a check box in options, same area as AE loot option etc.. this way no annoying windows for the players who don’t want to be bothered w/the request of a duel in the open world.

GW2 has too many great spots in the open world for fight clubs.

+1 for enabling duels

Im Mudbone.1437:

Scrambles.2604:

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

Colin Johanson mentions adding open world duels in this interview…it really couldn’t be a more straightforward answer either, haha. He says it at 14:11, the link wont start at that time for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7CcwnfUdU

Listen to it again he very well says “SOME DAY we would like to see it” but NOTHING definitive was said about it. So haha back atcha.

They also said that in GW2 there wouldn’t be a gear treadmill, and there you have it.

“haha back atcha”

lordkrall.7241:

There is a very good reason as to why there is no dueling in the game.

The game is balanced around 5v5 not 1v1.
Dueling would lead to massive amounts of threads with people whining about how X is much better than Y and how it is impossible to defeat A with B and so on.

The game isnt balanced around any given number. So excuses like that make no sense. Dueling is a 1v1 thing. Let the people who want to duel in pve. Who ever dosent give them an auto decline setting. Simple. Everyone one gets what they want.

Mosharn.8357:

The game isnt balanced around any given number. So excuses like that make no sense. Dueling is a 1v1 thing. Let the people who want to duel in pve. Who ever dosent give them an auto decline setting. Simple. Everyone one gets what they want.

Actually they have stated multiple times that the game is balanced around 5 players.

Why else do you think Dungeons are 5 players?
Or tournament-sPvP?

And no, not everyone gets what they want.
Adding a system like that WILL lead to people whining about how everything is unbalanced (this already happens when people try to fight 1v1 btw) and that will fill up the forums with threads demanding nerfs, which will take time from the devs that could be used for something useful instead.

there is no good reason to put it in the open world, if you want duels then it should stay in a duel arena, not somewhere where whiny kids can spam and troll the heck out of players.

really, ppl whine that they don’t want things like any other MMO but the moment ppl talk about duels, the one thing that ruins any PvE experience, it’s all yay saying.
i say, IF duels are in the game, let’s go all the way and add mounts while we’re at it.
you want one thing, accept the other, not “one thing but not the other”.

i can’t wait to report all the verbal abuse

Oh here we go…..

I want duelling

Dueling has been in the game for quite awhile now, so go for it. Thankfully, they have not added it to open world PvE so far. Since it’s such a bad idea, no doubt this is something they will undoubtedly add to the open world at some point in the future.

The only reason why I would oppose duelling is because then we will never have seperate balance between pvp and pve (like gw1 used to have) I’m still hoping GW2 will have this someday (some skills/traits already have).
But if PvE balance would not be changed for the sake of duelling, I don’t mind.

It seems rather obvious why they haven’t added dueling into the game.

It would distract from the actual pvp content already in game. And in terms of translation, duels in pve gear would translate poorly to tpvp. Which is where you are more likely to encounter 1v1 matchups.

While dueling would be a neat gimmick, they likely think that it would unnecessarily split the pvp audience.

What’s up with all the negative nancies saying that dueling is a bad idea?

Are you honestly refusing a potential new feature? No matter how many times it’s been discussed, it’s been discussed that much because people WANT it.

Unbelievable really. The amount of people resorting to the most unrealistic and far fetched reasons to not have duels astounds me.

Dueling is a must-have feature in every mmo and its primary objective is fun only. It’s like another activity to do, but here the ever-so-bright casual pve masters think that a new metagame or pvp scene will develop from it lmfao. Too funny.

Only in GW2 have I seen people against dueling the world. I don’t know if it’s because this game as a much more casual gamer that is afraid of any form of combat or what, but dueling in the world doesn’t hurt you.

I love dueling as I level, meeting in different areas of the world and dueling others. It’s awesome hosting tourneys in one zone, then next week another and so on, it’s nice to meet others and get some friendly duels going, sure give players an auto-decline if that helps, but a feature that encourages players to come together in the world, socialize and have fun, and players are against it? Go back to single player games with their boring static NPCs, some of us want our world to have spontanious gatherings, whether that’s dueling or even hang outs.

I agree with has been said, it’s shocking in 2014 we don’t have dueling, especially in a game that has been out since 2012. Even just dropping a dueling map would be awesome if that’s all that can be done with spectators.

Oh, and Anet, anyone who states dueling is pointless because of PvE gear doesn’t know what they are talking about, and don’t recognize what dueling is all about. Hate to break it to you Casuals.

TH

Razor.6392:

Are you honestly refusing a potential new feature? No matter how many times it’s been discussed, it’s been discussed that much because people WANT it.

Yes, people don’t want it because it WILL effect the rest of the game. Either in terms of balance, or in terms of actual concerns being buried beneath a massive flood of duel-related whining.

lordkrall.7241:

Yes, people don’t want it because it WILL effect the rest of the game. Either in terms of balance, or in terms of actual concerns being buried beneath a massive flood of duel-related whining.

How do you even live your everyday life with all these delusions inside your head? Just what evidence do you have to justify any of this?

Smh. Dem casual pve warriors.

I see duels as a sparring mode. You can test and train new combos, check out some damagenumbers on targets in full and realistic armor, including crits and conditions unlike those targetdummies.
The second use is for pure fun. How would it hurt anyone in this thread if I had a chance to duel my brother? Duels have never ruined anything in any game. There is nothing you can win or lose in a duel and nothing forces you to participate.
It’s really embarassing to see so many people actively fighting a feature- a toy- that by any means could never harm them. This is already like a religious thing. “We don’t want gays, because reasons! Deal with it!”

sorudo.9054:

there is no good reason to put it in the open world, if you want duels then it should stay in a duel arena, not somewhere where whiny kids can spam and troll the heck out of players.

really, ppl whine that they don’t want things like any other MMO but the moment ppl talk about duels, the one thing that ruins any PvE experience, it’s all yay saying.
i say, IF duels are in the game, let’s go all the way and add mounts while we’re at it.
you want one thing, accept the other, not “one thing but not the other”.

What a fine logic. First of all, if you don’t want to meet trolls better quit the internet. And then why stop there? Let’s drop dungeons, gear, stats and WvW. Omg almost every MMO has professions and skills, even hostile NPCs! that’s way to mainstream!! Your “point” boils down to “either copy every single detail or open a new genre”.

That kind of reasoning really fits a whiny kid who spams and trolls people.

Razor.6392:

lordkrall.7241:

Yes, people don’t want it because it WILL effect the rest of the game. Either in terms of balance, or in terms of actual concerns being buried beneath a massive flood of duel-related whining.

How do you even live your everyday life with all these delusions inside your head? Just what evidence do you have to justify any of this?

Smh. Dem casual pve warriors.

One concern some against dueling have is how the dueling crowd will behave in the PvE environment. You certainly are not helping your cause with your attitude in this thread.

No thank you.

chemiclord.3978:

Whelp… wild guess… if it has been brought up multiple times, and each time it isn’t even deemed worthy of a response by the powers that be… what do you think that should tell you?

Oh… that tells you to bring it up AGAIN? Oh. Okay then. Makes sense…

I remember a dev (Colin I think?) saying in an interview that dueling was on the “to-do” list, but with a pretty low priority.

But nice attempt at demeaning someone for wanting something you don’t like

Escadin.9482:

I see duels as a sparring mode. You can test and train new combos, check out some damagenumbers on targets in full and realistic armor, including crits and conditions unlike those targetdummies.
The second use is for pure fun. How would it hurt anyone in this thread if I had a chance to duel my brother? Duels have never ruined anything in any game. There is nothing you can win or lose in a duel and nothing forces you to participate.
It’s really embarassing to see so many people actively fighting a feature- a toy- that by any means could never harm them. This is already like a religious thing. “We don’t want gays, because reasons! Deal with it!”

sorudo.9054:

there is no good reason to put it in the open world, if you want duels then it should stay in a duel arena, not somewhere where whiny kids can spam and troll the heck out of players.

really, ppl whine that they don’t want things like any other MMO but the moment ppl talk about duels, the one thing that ruins any PvE experience, it’s all yay saying.
i say, IF duels are in the game, let’s go all the way and add mounts while we’re at it.
you want one thing, accept the other, not “one thing but not the other”.

What a fine logic. First of all, if you don’t want to meet trolls better quit the internet. And then why stop there? Let’s drop dungeons, gear, stats and WvW. Omg almost every MMO has professions and skills, even hostile NPCs! that’s way to mainstream!! Your “point” boils down to “either copy every single detail or open a new genre”.

That kind of reasoning really fits a whiny kid who spams and trolls people.

I’m still shocked that some people are actually against it. In 2012 and even 2013 people loved the idea and supported it massively, to this day I’m still waiting for the day that they implement it.

But now? Is this the new generation of gw2 players? The person you quoted sounds like the guy that joins a zerk only speedrun with his rampager rares and then whine because “trolls” kicked him asap. It’s really sad to see people frown upon cool features because of contrived and weird reasons that don’t even make sense.

Dueling in the open world to me is nothing more than a fun way to kill some time, to sit in weird places and fight it out while the 5th guy is on his way to CoF, or to try out some skirmishes before x world boss spawns, nothing important or serious. Leave those for the mists.

It must be painful to imagine how much these people must’ve been “trolled” by others in the past to outright refuse content where there’s a slight possibility of it happening again. Using that logic any new content would be a big NO since you can always get affected in some way!

No more new dungeons, there’s a risk of a guy kicking everyone at the end and ‘trolling’!
No more complex boss fights, some guy might screw it up purposefully!
No more LS, some guy will spoil it for everyone on release days!
No more new weapons, some guy might dump all his gold on them and proceed to control the market!

Razor.6392:

No more new dungeons, there’s a risk of a guy kicking everyone at the end and ‘trolling’!
No more complex boss fights, some guy might screw it up purposefully!
No more LS, some guy will spoil it for everyone on release days!
No more new weapons, some guy might dump all his gold on them and proceed to control the market!

GW2’s forums in a nutshell.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Razor.6392:

lordkrall.7241:

Yes, people don’t want it because it WILL effect the rest of the game. Either in terms of balance, or in terms of actual concerns being buried beneath a massive flood of duel-related whining.

How do you even live your everyday life with all these delusions inside your head? Just what evidence do you have to justify any of this?

Smh. Dem casual pve warriors.

One concern some against dueling have is how the dueling crowd will behave in the PvE environment. You certainly are not helping your cause with your attitude in this thread.

Do you think the sPvP people will abandon the mists to go duel exclusively in the open world? Do you think the people that do WvW will do the same?

“Dueling crowd”? what?

Sorry if I don’t help my cause when you guys just keep spamming nonsense. None of this has any evidence of it happening. I could say that introducing new fractals could somehow ruin the whole thing and try to sound serious about it, but in the end it would still be nonsense.

PS: You can always decline by the way.

Scrambles.2604:

hey i love these threads! Watch as forum-goers perform daring feats of mental gymnastics to justify why dueling would be unsuitable for GW2 and why no one wants it!