Guild Wars 2

Avoid being trolled in this thread as I am sure there are fingers hovering over LOCKED cause they do not like what they read and any excuse to lock the thread is eagerly awaited.

korelg.7862:

so much whining… if you don’t like it, don’t buy it

also, the funniest thing is that Norn look better on the Human tier 3 than the humans themselves xD

If there was a down vote, I would be using it right now.

Avster.1935:

korelg.7862:

so much whining… if you don’t like it, don’t buy it

also, the funniest thing is that Norn look better on the Human tier 3 than the humans themselves xD

Kid. It’s not whining, it’s proper understanding if what is being done incorrectly.

Sir, it is whining… what is so bad about having slightly reworked cultural armor available for all races? I mainly play Norn and let me tell you, I’d love to have those mid and heavy armor available for my human char… most cultural armor have really beautiful designs, it would be a shame to not use them more

korelg.7862:

Avster.1935:

korelg.7862:

so much whining… if you don’t like it, don’t buy it

also, the funniest thing is that Norn look better on the Human tier 3 than the humans themselves xD

Kid. It’s not whining, it’s proper understanding if what is being done incorrectly.

Sir, it is whining… what is so bad about having slightly reworked cultural armor available for all races? I mainly play Norn and let me tell you, I’d love to have those mid and heavy armor available for my human char… most cultural armor have really beautiful designs, it would be a shame to not use them more

Because people paid 160gold to buy and transmute their T3 armor and now you can just get it for ~60gold or $10.

I’ve been an avid anet supporter since day 1, but releasing t3 cultural in the gem store just infuriates me. is nothing sacred anymore? this just goes to show that they can and will flip any hard to achieve goal into a gem store item just to flip a few bucks.

anet, you are sending mixed signals. in one hand you work on content and goals to keep us playing, and on the other hand you give out the same rewards for free (no in game skill or requirements).

If you are going to give away the stuff we worked hard to achieve, what’s the point in ever working on anything again, I quit, fed up with this shananigans.

korelg.7862:

Avster.1935:

korelg.7862:

so much whining… if you don’t like it, don’t buy it

also, the funniest thing is that Norn look better on the Human tier 3 than the humans themselves xD

Kid. It’s not whining, it’s proper understanding if what is being done incorrectly.

Sir, it is whining… what is so bad about having slightly reworked cultural armor available for all races? I mainly play Norn and let me tell you, I’d love to have those mid and heavy armor available for my human char… most cultural armor have really beautiful designs, it would be a shame to not use them more

Because it took me the better part of 200 hours to get my first t3 set completed. And now people can buy look a likes for $10?

Talk about anet completely undermining the efforts of it’s player base. Huge slap in the face from anet.

I feel like arena net just spit in my face….

korelg.7862:

Avster.1935:

korelg.7862:

so much whining… if you don’t like it, don’t buy it

also, the funniest thing is that Norn look better on the Human tier 3 than the humans themselves xD

Kid. It’s not whining, it’s proper understanding if what is being done incorrectly.

Sir, it is whining… what is so bad about having slightly reworked cultural armor available for all races? I mainly play Norn and let me tell you, I’d love to have those mid and heavy armor available for my human char… most cultural armor have really beautiful designs, it would be a shame to not use them more

Making cultural armors available to all races is not the issue. in fact, most people would be fine if they did that. the issue is that they should all be equal in difficulty to get and now they are not. a lot of people worked really hard and for a long time to be able to earn those, just to turn around and see anet handing them out for free. anet just gave the finger to everyone that worked so kitten earning this armor. and that is unacceptable and very messed up.

What would have been acceptable is if anet offered a firey aurora that you could purchase and add to your existing t3 armor.

essentially making the t3 armor a prereq to the upgraded look. Why they don’t consult me on these things, I’ll never know.

You know none of you are going to quit over a skin, I’m sure many here already spent real money on it. You’re going to log back in like always and the beat will go on as intended after all the forum rage dies down.

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Beorn Saxon.4762:

What would have been acceptable is if anet offered a firey aurora that you could purchase and add to your existing t3 armor.

essentially making the t3 armor a prereq to the upgraded look. Why they don’t consult me on these things, I’ll never know.

They hate money and awesome ideas.

Aura slot next to trinket slots? Aura we can craft for, and buy, and some that are redonk effects but have legendary level’s of crafting to make? Sounds like an awesome horizontal progression idea to me.

korelg.7862:

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Um…? You do realize that now that anet has done this once, they have opened the gate to doing it for all items. If this is not beyond them, then neither are legendary skins. You can expect that when new legendary skins come out, the old ones will be in the gem store. This practice is unacceptable, period, on all levels. zich, nada, none, nope, shouldn’t happen, every, under any circumstances.

It’s unhealthy for the player base to be b**ch slapped by the developers. There are healthy alternate routes that they could have taken to make cash in the gem shop.

korelg.7862:

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

It undermines peoples efforts. I’m not sure why that is hard to understand. Players should never feel like the effort they put forth into obtaining an item in game was wasted time. That used to be a big deal to anet, which was why they made such a big deal about aesthetics and horizontal progression.

Would you be happy, if after 6 years of schooling you finally get your degree and then all of a sudden people can pay $10 to say they got the same level of education as you without putting in any effort or time?

korelg.7862:

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Neither are hard to get, you can buy both cultural armor and Legendaries with gold, legendaries just cost a bit more, not difficult at all so your reasoning is horrible regarding cultural armor.

Anyways, if there going to do it with 1 set of cultural armor they should do it with all, Id really like the asuran heavy set on my human warrior along with a twilight lookalike for 800gems as well. The damage is already done, the fact anet is not posting in threads like this just shows that they have no intention of going back on it and this is the new direction they are going with gemstore armor, reskins of old armor.

gennyt.3428:

You know none of you are going to quit over a skin, I’m sure many here already spent real money on it. You’re going to log back in like always and the beat will go on as intended after all the forum rage dies down.

no, i won’t quit over 1 small thing, but i will quit over 100 small things, and we are getting pretty close to that. I’ve already decreased my gw2 game time down to about 8% of what I used to play on a weekly basis bc I’m getting tired of this shinanigans.

korelg.7862:

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

If I sold you something expensive and a cheaper version was released that works just as well, would you feel ripped off? That you overpaid? This is not solely about other races getting what was supposed to be exclusive to humans, it’s also about a perceived loss of value for what we already own.

It’s one thing to give a discount for an item. It’s another to blatantly rip off another skin marketed as exclusive and then sell it for a lower price when the original is still available with no changes.

In short, causing an outrage in your player base is a horrible idea, unless you really want to be voted worst company of all time.

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

korelg.7862:

but… why is that an “issue”?

>I got an item with a certain amount of effort and I enjoyed it
>new version of said item comes out cheaper

up till that point I see no problem whatsoever and I don’t wanna think that the problem is that now people can get this new version with less effort… i’d understand that for Legendary skins maybe, but cultural armor is really common and easy to get, also you know who got it the “hard” way and who got it from the gemstore just by looking at the weird fire effect

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

The problem is an absolute disrespect for lore, people’s permanent choices, and a singling out of a single race and armor class. It is just a slap in the face seeing sylvari and norns charading in my human’s CULTURAL armor that is meant to be a sign of racial pride, and pride in the choice that I made in the beginning of the game to roll a human. Cultural armor is one of the few defining features of a race along with racial elites. Now there is less and less reason to justify having rolled a human. Norns already get WAY better elites (snow leopard), and now they get to wear our armor too. Just great. Might as well kill off humans for good in the next living story.

korelg you are not thinking straight…seriously.

Cultural Armor is supposed to be UNIQUE to each race, why even have them in the first place if that is not the case?

Also people working hard to get an armor vs. buying it off the gem store, can you not even see the problem in that? … :|

The trend it seems is that most (if not all) armor sets are direct gem shop purchases. This game is supposed to have cosmetic horizontal progression yet all the cool stuff is on the gem store. How the hell are we supposed to “progress” then? We are being force fed with this Living Story crap too…and don’t start on “play for fun” with me, I WvW for fun, so there’s that.

Honestly the direction ArenaNet is going is bad. Really bad. With other AAA MMOs on the horizon like Wildstar and EverQuest Next, I wonder how GW2 will survive…

fellyn.5083:

Would you be happy, if after 6 years of schooling you finally get your degree and then all of a sudden people can pay $10 to say they got the same level of education as you without putting in any effort or time?

Not sure if the analogy holds up since people could always wave their credit card at the armor in question.

What is funny is that they actually took the time to take the T3 human cultural skin, and re-skin/re-clipping on male and female characters and do it for every race.

It’s ok, ANet. Everyone makes mistakes. Now give me Snow Leopard on my human ele to make up for it.

Ashen.2907:

fellyn.5083:

Would you be happy, if after 6 years of schooling you finally get your degree and then all of a sudden people can pay $10 to say they got the same level of education as you without putting in any effort or time?

Not sure if the analogy holds up since people could always wave their credit card at the armor in question.

even if you did buy it previously, it would have cost 4x the amount of gems it now costs. so now it’s “hey, you can get it instantly at 1/4 the price and we’ve update the look.”

Substance E.4852:

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

more like:

>I buy my coffee at 8am
>suddenly 12pm all coffee 50% off!
>oh man that totally devalues my morning coffee

you got your cultural armor 1st, and it was exclusive for a while and it still is to a certain degree, cause the difference between cultural and gem store is quite notorious

should there be a limit on what skins they should and shouldn’t re-use? of course!, but I think cultural armor is not hard enough to get to be so mad

korelg.7862:

Substance E.4852:

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

more like:

>I buy my coffee at 8am
>suddenly 12pm all coffee 50% off!
>oh man that totally devalues my morning coffee

you got your cultural armor 1st, and it was exclusive for a while and it still is to a certain degree, cause the difference between cultural and gem store is quite notorious

should there be a limit on what skins they should and shouldn’t re-use? of course!, but I think cultural armor is not hard enough to get to be so mad

Care to explain how it is exclusive in any way? Last I checked it can still be purchased for 120g. Please go troll somewhere else.

korelg.7862:

Substance E.4852:

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

more like:

>I buy my coffee at 8am
>suddenly 12pm all coffee 50% off!
>oh man that totally devalues my morning coffee

you got your cultural armor 1st, and it was exclusive for a while and it still is to a certain degree, cause the difference between cultural and gem store is quite notorious

should there be a limit on what skins they should and shouldn’t re-use? of course!, but I think cultural armor is not hard enough to get to be so mad

Except for there is no other racially exclusive armors in in the game. Reskin dungeon armor if you have to reskin anything at all. But no matter how you look at it it’s lazy and a money grab and that’s all it is.

Not to mention the fact that it totally breaks the lore behind cultural armor as well.

korelg.7862:

Substance E.4852:

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

more like:

>I buy my coffee at 8am
>suddenly 12pm all coffee 50% off!
>oh man that totally devalues my morning coffee

you got your cultural armor 1st, and it was exclusive for a while and it still is to a certain degree, cause the difference between cultural and gem store is quite notorious

should there be a limit on what skins they should and shouldn’t re-use? of course!, but I think cultural armor is not hard enough to get to be so mad

You do realize that people could have bought their T3 this time yesterday right? We didn’t all get it months and months ago nor do we all live online to the point that we can just fart away 160gold on something that’s suddenly 60gold as hard as that might be to understand.

Avster.1935:

korelg you are not thinking straight…seriously.

Cultural Armor is supposed to be UNIQUE to each race, why even have them in the first place if that is not the case?

Also people working hard to get an armor vs. buying it off the gem store, can you not even see the problem in that? … :|

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The trend it seems is that most (if not all) armor sets are direct gem shop purchases. This game is supposed to have cosmetic horizontal progression yet all the cool stuff is on the gem store. How the hell are we supposed to “progress” then? We are being force fed with this Living Story crap too…and don’t start on “play for fun” with me, I WvW for fun, so there’s that.

Honestly the direction ArenaNet is going is bad. Really bad. With other AAA MMOs on the horizon like Wildstar and EverQuest Next, I wonder how GW2 will survive…

well I never liked the race-lock to begin with, but you do raise a valid pont here, this game started with a very lacking gem store, but now it is getting way too much in comparisson to what we get in game, Anet has added ZERO new sets of in-game armor, only a couple of helmets and back pieces (extremely lame back pieces)

korelg.7862:

Substance E.4852:

korelg.7862:

You guys are being quite childish here, If you have your cultural armor and you like it, be happy, you should not care if someone else is getting it for 1 silver a piece, good for them, I have my stuff, I enjoy it, that’s all that matters

Suppose you are in line to get coffee and your bill is $5 for a large. You pay and then the next guy pays $2.50 for the same large amount of coffee in a cup with a red lip. No rational human being is going to go “Welp, as long as I got my coffee I don’t care that he got the same thing at half the price for no reason.”

more like:

>I buy my coffee at 8am
>suddenly 12pm all coffee 50% off!
>oh man that totally devalues my morning coffee

you got your cultural armor 1st, and it was exclusive for a while and it still is to a certain degree, cause the difference between cultural and gem store is quite notorious

should there be a limit on what skins they should and shouldn’t re-use? of course!, but I think cultural armor is not hard enough to get to be so mad

Dude, the T3 human cultural still costs the same so your analogy is way off. The huge problem here is that every race can now get a cheaper and improved version. This makes the armor worthless. Also do tell me why it is the only cultural available to everyone, simply put it’s completely unfair.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Ashen.2907:

fellyn.5083:

Would you be happy, if after 6 years of schooling you finally get your degree and then all of a sudden people can pay $10 to say they got the same level of education as you without putting in any effort or time?

Not sure if the analogy holds up since people could always wave their credit card at the armor in question.

even if you did buy it previously, it would have cost 4x the amount of gems it now costs. so now it’s “hey, you can get it instantly at 1/4 the price and we’ve update the look.”

So a year after its release the price went down ? Thats a pretty common phenomenon.

I personally do not think that cultural armor should have been put in the gemstore for use by other races, but the complaints about people being able to buy the armor rather than earn it in game for human characters doesn’t really have much merit IMO.

korelg.7862:

Avster.1935:

korelg you are not thinking straight…seriously.

Cultural Armor is supposed to be UNIQUE to each race, why even have them in the first place if that is not the case?

Also people working hard to get an armor vs. buying it off the gem store, can you not even see the problem in that? … :|

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The trend it seems is that most (if not all) armor sets are direct gem shop purchases. This game is supposed to have cosmetic horizontal progression yet all the cool stuff is on the gem store. How the hell are we supposed to “progress” then? We are being force fed with this Living Story crap too…and don’t start on “play for fun” with me, I WvW for fun, so there’s that.

Honestly the direction ArenaNet is going is bad. Really bad. With other AAA MMOs on the horizon like Wildstar and EverQuest Next, I wonder how GW2 will survive…

well I never liked the race-lock to begin with, but you do raise a valid pont here, this game started with a very lacking gem store, but now it is getting way too much in comparisson to what we get in game, Anet has added ZERO new sets of in-game armor, only a couple of helmets and back pieces (extremely lame back pieces)

yeah i agree with time the gem store has evolved into a bit of a monster and its becoming clear that the gem store is starting to suck the life out of the game and we need to say something about it and get our opinions heard before this game starts selling patches in the gem store…

Ashen.2907:

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Ashen.2907:

fellyn.5083:

Would you be happy, if after 6 years of schooling you finally get your degree and then all of a sudden people can pay $10 to say they got the same level of education as you without putting in any effort or time?

Not sure if the analogy holds up since people could always wave their credit card at the armor in question.

even if you did buy it previously, it would have cost 4x the amount of gems it now costs. so now it’s “hey, you can get it instantly at 1/4 the price and we’ve update the look.”

So a year after its release the price went down ? Thats a pretty common phenomenon.

I personally do not think that cultural armor should have been put in the gemstore for use by other races, but the complaints about people being able to buy the armor rather than earn it in game for human characters doesn’t really have much merit IMO.

Just because the armor has been in game since launch doesn’t mean most people have had it since launch.

Suppose two days ago you just finished earning the gold to buy the T3 human set. You spend the 160 gold to buy it and transmute all 6 pieces and then two days later you log in to find the armor you just spent all that money, money that took a lot of effort to earn, suddenly became a waste as you can now just buy the same armor for about 60g with flame effects on top of it or just throw $10 at your screen.

It’s also doubly silly to expect stuff to get cheaper with time in an MMO since inflation does the exact opposite.

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

and no one should really care what other people wear or why.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

It still makes the human light t3 worthless when compared to other t3 cultural because everyone can replicate the look to an extent. If they made all the culturals available to everyone it wouldn’t be such a big issue and then your argument would hold some merit as some people prefer the default version.

But human light wearers are getting cheated right now, especially the ones who already have the armor.

fellyn.5083:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

what lore is there really behind the armor? quite frankly no armors in the game have any real lore they are sort of just there………….

This is insulting. These skins were supposed to be some of the PvE end game rewards. Is this a joke?

I haven’t logged in since this patch went in today. I’m taking a break.

Deth.4109:

fellyn.5083:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

what lore is there really behind the armor? quite frankly no armors in the game have any real lore they are sort of just there………….

Have you even seen the sylvari armor? Most of it is either morphed plantlife or grows directly out of their bodies. Charr armor is designed perfectly to fit a charr and is covered in cultural motifs. Same for asura. They got away with this because every non cultural armor is just human armor stretched to fit the other races.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Let’s take this to the extreme. Would it be totally okay if Anet decided to put a version of Twilight with a fiery hilt and put it in the gemstone for 1000gems? Because if I thought that the fiery hilt is silly, by your reasoning, even though they look similar, if I don’t like it and prefer the original twilight, I should shell out 3000g on the TP.

The point is that it undermines the hardwork of people have put into getting these armor (And I think it was even harder back at launch). Some people will just shrug it off, but a lot of here cares about that.

Substance E.4852:

Deth.4109:

fellyn.5083:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

what lore is there really behind the armor? quite frankly no armors in the game have any real lore they are sort of just there………….

Have you even seen the sylvari armor? Most of it is either morphed plantlife or grows directly out of their bodies. Charr armor is designed perfectly to fit a charr and is covered in cultural motifs. Same for asura. They got away with this because every non cultural armor is just human armor stretched to fit the other races.

ive seen it but lets get real for a second, what story or LORE is there behind any of those pieces? by your logic a glowing grass skirt is passable as slyvari cultural armor. to me lore based armor is a set or pieces directly tied to a certain character or story item like brhams armor or roxxes quiver.

Moka.9641:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Let’s take this to the extreme. Would it be totally okay if Anet decided to put a version of Twilight with a fiery hilt and put it in the gemstone for 1000gems? Because if I thought that the fiery hilt is silly, by your reasoning, even though they look similar, if I don’t like it and prefer the original twilight, I should shell out 3000g on the TP.

The point is that it undermines the hardwork of people have put into getting these armor (And I think it was even harder back at launch). Some people will just shrug it off, but a lot of here cares about that.

with out the aura or footfalls or even the functionality of a legendary is it even really twilight?

I have lost faith in ANet. To get my cultural T3 on human, I had to spend weeks farming orichalcum on 7 of my lvl 80 characters. Those were 2.5 hours of my life every single day, just running around mostly hideous zones (orr) full of extremely annoying cc heavy enemies that just never give up on chasing you, endlessly contested waypoints and random events happening all over the place. I did not like farming orichalcum one bit. It made me depressed and lethargic to the point that I stopped doing anything else in the game until I had enough gold to get the items I had wanted, human cultural t3 amongst them included.

Can you imagine my disappointment every single time I see it on a trading post, non human character or even humans themselves? It’s the same piece of armor, with additional effects that are just PERFECT for ele such as the toon that wears mine!

What frustrates me the most is the fact, that I have spent hours of my life slaving away inside a freaking game [underline]working[/underline] towards getting the set, when an updated version is a swipe of a credit card away, immediately and without any effort. It’s not about the price of the item at all, like majority of the people here complain about. It’s about the effort put into it and the feeling of disappointment that makes me question my willingness to play this game ever again.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

It very much does devalue it, many people spent a long time working on that armor, as it was much like getting a legendary, it showed off ones work, not that they have a credit card. Sure people can tell the difference between the original and the new, but part of playing any race is getting that armor that only they can, well that’s now out the window. So now that other races can wear other cultures armor, they might as well make it to where to can get other races skills as well.

as for “It’s an armor skin.” so are legendries, should they just sell those skins too? because as you said it nothing more then a skin.

So there is hope my human warrior can get the Norn T3 Heavy Amor? I have always wanted that set. It’s only fair at this point. Arena make this happen.

Deth.4109:

Substance E.4852:

Deth.4109:

fellyn.5083:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

what lore is there really behind the armor? quite frankly no armors in the game have any real lore they are sort of just there………….

Have you even seen the sylvari armor? Most of it is either morphed plantlife or grows directly out of their bodies. Charr armor is designed perfectly to fit a charr and is covered in cultural motifs. Same for asura. They got away with this because every non cultural armor is just human armor stretched to fit the other races.

ive seen it but lets get real for a second, what story or LORE is there behind any of those pieces? by your logic a glowing grass skirt is passable as slyvari cultural armor. to me lore based armor is a set or pieces directly tied to a certain character or story item like brhams armor or roxxes quiver.

Lore isn’t just specific stories. It’s things that define in game cultures as well. It’s why the sylvari all use plants as clothing, tools and architecture and why you hardly ever see any charr spellcasters.

Deth.4109:

Moka.9641:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Let’s take this to the extreme. Would it be totally okay if Anet decided to put a version of Twilight with a fiery hilt and put it in the gemstone for 1000gems? Because if I thought that the fiery hilt is silly, by your reasoning, even though they look similar, if I don’t like it and prefer the original twilight, I should shell out 3000g on the TP.

The point is that it undermines the hardwork of people have put into getting these armor (And I think it was even harder back at launch). Some people will just shrug it off, but a lot of here cares about that.

with out the aura or footfalls or even the functionality of a legendary is it even really twilight?

I think I wasn’t clear, it’s exactly like twilight. It retains functions like switching stats(although that would be kinda P2W in the gemstore imo lol..) , aura, footfalls, etc. Only difference is the fiery hilt. It’s not the best example, but I want to take something extreme and apply his reasoning.

I’m on both sides of this. It’s conflicting.

On the one hand, I very much understand the anger. I have human heavy t3 on my guardian. It was bought over a year ago, back when loot was arguably much worse. I farmed materials to sell for months, and by the time I got the money to buy my set, I muted it onto him and promptly quit the game for seven months. I was just that burnt out. If heavy t3 gets the same treatment as the light t3, I’m not sure how I’d feel.

That being said, I bought this armor. I didn’t think I would, and I agonized over it for a while. However, I just couldn’t resist how good it looked on my male Sylvari necro. It was just… perfect. It totally fit my image of him, and it came out of the blue. I’ve been admiring it on him since I bought it hours ago.

So, in all, I’m not sure I agree with this possible new trend. Still on the fence as to whether I think it’s a good thing or not. I do certainly think it’s lazy to a degree, and I feel for those who slaved to get the normal t3 – especially those who just bought it. I can’t stop admiring my character, though…

Substance E.4852:

Deth.4109:

Substance E.4852:

Deth.4109:

fellyn.5083:

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This entire thread is proof positive that people want to be raging mad about anything and everything…
Must be the cool thing to be on the internet these days…

It’s an armor skin. One that if you don’t like you don’t have to buy. It doesn’t magically devalue the original at all.
Sure, anyone on any race can wear it (as long as they are light armor) so long as you don’t mind looking like a walking torch.
If a fire motif isn’t your thing though, and you want that armor, then guess what? You still have to be a female human light armor wearer and have the gold to spend.

The differences are obvious and nobody is going to mistake someone who bought their t3 human cultural light armor with someone who bought the skin off of the gem store.

Actually that’s exactly what it does. Devalue the time and effort people put into getting their t3 armor.

And breaks the lore behind cultural armor into tiny little pieces, stomps it into fine dust, and then finally sweeps it up and throws away in the trash, as well.

what lore is there really behind the armor? quite frankly no armors in the game have any real lore they are sort of just there………….

Have you even seen the sylvari armor? Most of it is either morphed plantlife or grows directly out of their bodies. Charr armor is designed perfectly to fit a charr and is covered in cultural motifs. Same for asura. They got away with this because every non cultural armor is just human armor stretched to fit the other races.

ive seen it but lets get real for a second, what story or LORE is there behind any of those pieces? by your logic a glowing grass skirt is passable as slyvari cultural armor. to me lore based armor is a set or pieces directly tied to a certain character or story item like brhams armor or roxxes quiver.

Lore isn’t just specific stories. It’s things that define in game cultures as well. It’s why the sylvari all use plants as clothing, tools and architecture and why you hardly ever see any charr spellcasters.

i see plenty of random charr npcs doing all manner of odd things, hell the flame legion has plenty of spell casters.