Last night I saw everyone’s minis on Edge Of The Mists and it was pretty crowded then. I still can’t see them on any other PvE map except cities, so I’m really hopeful this is just a bug.
Last night I saw everyone’s minis on Edge Of The Mists and it was pretty crowded then. I still can’t see them on any other PvE map except cities, so I’m really hopeful this is just a bug.
Yes, I saw my mini when I was in Rata Sum with a lot of people around me, but in Plains of Ashford, where I’m all alone (in visual range at least), I got the message…
I can’t see my mini-pets, when I activate one all I get is “Miniatures have been hidden due to rising player population”. That’s across all characters in a myriad different locations.
This is a feature that is working as intended. If you have feedback regarding the feature, I would recommend creating or joining in a thread to discuss your thoughts about it.
Will they be offering any refunds for those who paid money/gems for minis but now can’t use them?
I can’t see my mini-pets, when I activate one all I get is “Miniatures have been hidden due to rising player population”. That’s across all characters in a myriad different locations.
This is a feature that is working as intended. If you have feedback regarding the feature, I would recommend creating or joining in a thread to discuss your thoughts about it.
Will they be offering any refunds for those who paid money/gems for minis but now can’t use them?
I’m really hoping this is a mistake, that maybe he was rushing to try and answer everyone and didn’t fully understand the issue.
If this was happening occasionally I’d agree that it’s working as intended – if you’re in a high population map the minis have to be hidden to reduce the load on the server. Just like particle effects and players.
But when they appear in LA and EOTM and then get hidden in a map that’s also telling you to leave due to low population something isn’t right. If that’s working as intended then it’s a really stupid intention.
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I just logged into Caledon on my character I made last night to test the new leveling experience. Got the “mini can’t be displayed because of rising population” message. Ok, fine, whatever.
Then, literally, a few seconds later I get a message saying they want to close this map due to the low number of players and asked if I would volunteer to be shuffled into a more populated map.
wow…. if i had known, i wouldnt have used the accbinding feature on ALL my minipets…. doubleclicking them from inventory should bypass this miniature disabling system right ?
IF ONLY I HAD KNOWN Q_Q
Yes this sucks on so many levels, the spent gems, gold and now the binding totally screws us all over….and no word from Anet apart from saying “working as intended”
GFrom this statement they must have known that minis wouldn’t display in game with the megaserver system so why promote it as a feature?
I’m glad that I didn’t buy any minis after the feature pack announcement was made, the prices on tp skyrocketed. I would be furious if I had spent a whole lot of money buying minis before the marvelous “feature pack”
I have bound all my favorites only to be able to see them in preview….really angry now.
If it’s a “feature” working as intended can we maybe opt out of it?
The minis work in dungeons, full party can see each other’s minis, but in PvE only if you refuse to leave map on prompt. Also, what is up with that? I load into a map and less than a minute later get prompted to leave it for another. Wouldn’t it make more sense to just prioritize players to the bigger map while they’re loading? :S
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
It’s a terrible change. You realize you are basically making minis useless for me, right? Majority of times I am on I am gathered with my very large guild. That means with this culling I will never see my mini. Why not make it something in Options that players can choose themselves? Please fix this.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Working as intended ? seriously ? I kinda understand other players minis being hidden but why hide the player’s own mini, this is beyond ridiculous, whats even the point of having minis now.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
So the intended result was for it to not work anymore?
Why wasn’t this told in the blog? Not exciting enough?
I actually bought my miniature pet to take it with me, not to store it as collectible. There was no problem in showing the mini pets before, so why is it now? Isn’t it just a skin, like other people said? I mean, it does not do anything, it does not fight, it’s just present to look nice! Please, A-net, find a solution!
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Are you serious? You’re kidding right?
I was in Dry Top yesterday and after a while I tried again to get my mini pet to show up and got the “rising player population” error. Not more than 2 minutes later I got a pop up saying due to player population declining the instance was going to close in an hour and gave me the option to switch to a higher populated instance. Does that make any sense to you? Even after I got the message about the instance closing after an hour my mini pet still refused to show up.
I find it hard to swallow that you make it so our minis will stay out when we change maps, add the whole collection in the wardrobe, encourage us to buy more mini pets from the gem shop (series 1 and 2 currently available again), then turn around and tell us we can’t use the kitten things. Thanks a lot. I bought that new mini 2 pack in the gem shop yesterday with that Chief and Svanir thing along with 2 packs of series 2, and that was before I found out about the “rising player population” problem.
Big Sigh. My Ranger was stylin’ for a small space of time this afternoon. She had her bear mini pet running along side her pet bear, and on her back was the new bear backpack.
Then I got the message that the Mega Server had to hide my mini bear
Lord love a cross-eyed duck Anet, you went through a whole lot of work to get our minis into the wardrobe, and allow us to keep them out with us, even if we zone….and now we can’t use them, and it is intended by you that we can’t use them, when the Mega Server page we are on starts getting too populated???
The whole point of the mega server is to maintain a healthy population level. Does this mean we cannot run about with our Minis the majority of the time????
I want to run about with my little mini friends like I did before this awful patch.
Lisa-Sad.
Edit-Just read Charrbeque’s post. Thumbs up Charr. I feel like you do.
Not seeing your own mini is something that should be addressed. But not seeing other people’s minis when culling is in effect? I can support that. You already have other players being replaced with low-res models when too many players are in the area; their minis disappearing is no different.
Not seeing your own mini is something that should be addressed. But not seeing other people’s minis when culling is in effect? I can support that. You already have other players being replaced with low-res models when too many players are in the area; their minis disappearing is no different.
The difference is that’s a choice. I don’t have low rez models or any of that. I don’t want it and I don’t need it. I like seeing other people’s minis. I can understand that people who don’t have as good computers might want the culling though. Which is why it should be a choice is Options and not something forced on us.
Ditto on all the mini posts. I paid for a lot of the miniatures I have and now I can’t use them because you can’t control server population properly (you were before) If we can’t use the minis when we want you should refund us the gems or currency we spent on them.
this is ridiculous and ruins the game for myself and quite a few other people. now im having trouble with my necro pets disappearing. this is wrong. we spent all that money and gems on mini pets and now you are taking that away… :-( i love both my mini pets and necro pets. thats why i got them. i like the pets.
THAT is the question I want answered. I see ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why everyone can’t have their minipet out. How can their intent be for NOBODY to hardly ever see their minipets anymore? This doesn’t need tweaking. It needs removing.
As some people have pointed out, you could have an entire zone filled with nothing but Rangers, and they aren’t going to remove their pets due to excessive strain on the servers.
The last Patch allows Account-shared Legendary weapons, so we have FAR more particle effects flying around than before. Sometimes it feels like the ground is covered in oil stains (I’m looking at you, Twilight.) And yet you force us to fight in battles with black streaks blocking my view.
You will NEVER convince me that displaying minipets in any way slows things down. When you “tweak” this feature that is “working as intended”, you had better tweak it so that nobody EVER sees that message again.
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While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Are we to take it then that the game actually is dying then?
That server merges disguised as a ‘megaserver’ was not enough and that now you have to reduce bandwith by any means necessary?
Edit:
Since the working as intended is to turn them off, will you be offering refunds on minis?
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
The issue is less with the feature and more with the feature not working correctly.
People are having their minis hidden in maps that are closing to not enough players or maps that have no players even visible in the area.
It seems to be functioning incorrectly atm.
As for working as intended I would say that other peoples minis should be hidden but never your own as my feedback.
Not seeing your own mini is something that should be addressed. But not seeing other people’s minis when culling is in effect? I can support that. You already have other players being replaced with low-res models when too many players are in the area; their minis disappearing is no different.
The difference is that’s a choice. I don’t have low rez models or any of that. I don’t want it and I don’t need it. I like seeing other people’s minis. I can understand that people who don’t have as good computers might want the culling though. Which is why it should be a choice is Options and not something forced on us.
In that case, minipet display should be tied to the culling option then. If you’d like to see more detailed models and minipets, then players can crank up the settings. If not, and they don’t mind not seeing minipets, then they can turn it down. Seems like a good compromise.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Wow. Just. Wow. So, there was this big push to get everyone to put their minis in the wardrobe, just so you guys could remove them from the game?
That has to be the most stealthy gold/gem sink I’ve ever heard of, and I’ve been playing games since the days when I was being eaten by a gru.
Working as intended, indeed.
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While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Appreciate you coming out and braving the storm and at least saying something. Wish I could say the same for the developers and designers who don’t really seemed concerned.
Please pass this single idea back to them:
The fact that this was all working for two years aside, if whatever the issue with your servers is now is such that it decides to not show me another player’s mini, then it should not show me the player, or the player should be a grey shell. My pet should be visible to me all the time. I’d rather see the mini of someone two feet from me than Skippy VonMcLeet and his flaming surf board. And where was the CDI on this topic.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Thank you for the reply, however it seems to be a rather big flaw. That said, glad you are working on it because I just had my mini surpressed and almost immediately after was asked to change maps because of the low population. I looked around, and nobody near me either. Seems to be a mighty glaring flaw if you ask me.
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
I forgot to mention. I went to Rata Sum yesterday to use the bank/exchange in the middle of the map. I must have saw at least 30 players around that area as well as the nearby crafting stations. Some had mini pets out and I was able to use mine as well. This whole “due to rising player population” is pure nonsense. I usually hang out at Dry Top. Although the zone is populated, players are spread out so I don’t see a whole bunch in 1 spot usually unless they are all working on an event. It doesn’t make sense that in a place such as Rata Sum you can display your minis with a whole bunch of players all congregated in 1 spot but not a zone where they are all spread out and you’re lucky to see 5 or more in your visual range.
Anet should just be straight with us. Mini pets can now only be used in the racial towns and home instances. Because those are the only places I’ve been able to use mine so far.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
So all the Euros and thousands of gold wasted for something I cant use. Thanks! This company never fails to amaze me.
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While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
OK, where can i request a refund for the gems i wasted on minipets? if its working to remove the users minipet there is an issue. I was not told that you would make my minipets useless after paying REAL cash to buy gems to buy mini sets to say this is working fine is disgusting i have yet to see my minis thanks to this terrible idea….
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If I had known about this ahead of time I wouldn’t have account bound my minis. I would have left them in my inventory and used them as I had before. At least I would be able to see them when I wanted.
If they do not fix this and just wait to see what is gonna happened as intended, I had to ask for a mini refund, since I just can’t see my minis. Why should I have a mini that can not be seen as I want, and why I got to find a empty map to see it? It’s really unbelievable that they still need time to evaluate and see if we will accept what they intended to do…. It’s obviously wrong that you can’t see your own mini at the time when you want it be there, and arenanet still need time to evaluate? That’s not an acceptable response.
If I had known about this ahead of time I wouldn’t have account bound my minis. I would have left them in my inventory and used them as I had before. At least I would be able to see them when I wanted.
Yep.. spent 300 gold on a mini I wanted because of the new option. Pretty bummed that it is hidden 75% of the time.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Firstly, thank you for sticking your neck out here to give us some sort of a reply. Its appreciated.
However, there is genuine anger here at this, as none of that information was available at all when you guys posted about the mini changes in the patch.
A lot of people including myself bought mini packs in the gem store, and spent a lot of gold in game only to find that all that was for essentially nothing.
There are still mini packs available in the store with no warning that they wont be able to be used in high population areas, which when you think about the mega-server that Anet was so excited to deliver just doesn’t make any sense.
The community is rightly peeved at this, as it just looks like a cash grab. I don’t mind spending in the store to support the game as I don’t expect people to work or design new features in the game for free, but after this I wont be doing so anymore.
Its just shocking that this feature was not mentioned pre- patch, and is an insult to the community that support the game. I dont normally get on forums to complain about this stuff, but after spending money that I had to earn IRL, I feel that I have the right as a customer.
I think that refunds should be given for those that want it, at the very least, the money returned as gems.
Overall I am very disappointed. Its funny how the new features that make the gem-store and access to it seamless, are working as intended. I do hope that Anet will resolve this issue quickly but I am not holding my breath.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
So go buy those new mini’s we just put up for sale so you can’t see them either. I hate to be bitter but I wish I would have checked the forums before adding mine to my wardrobe. I truly thought after reading the patch notes that this was a cool new feature for the players.
My question here is even with a decent gaming rig if populations keep increasing are eventually all players just going to look like a default character losing dyes and skins?
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
I can’t even summon the mini’s I paid for via the gem store. I feel like I got ripped off.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
So go buy those new mini’s we just put up for sale so you can’t see them either. I hate to be bitter but I wish I would have checked the forums before adding mine to my wardrobe. I truly thought after reading the patch notes that this was a cool new feature for the players.
My question here is even with a decent gaming rig if populations keep increasing are eventually all players just going to look like a default character losing dyes and skins?
I think what he meant to imply is that this is something they put into place until they can determine what sort of performance impact all these minis will have on the server. Since they’ll be out and about a lot more, it’s something they maybe didn’t have to worry about so much. Once they can gauge how they’re impacting server performance (if at all), they can then adjust the system to be more open to minis being around.
At least I hope that’s the case, it’ll be a real shame if it isn’t.
I truly hope that is case as well. If not it is kick when I’m already feeling down. I have bought most of the mini packs and special seasonal minis over the last couple years. I am one of the players who clicked my minis back up after I switched zones and usually carried a couple on each of my characters to change it up.
Should have expected this really. Seeing how the few previews also had this message (Wooden Potatoes outright mentions it) on the preview server that has very few people on them, they should have known that this will be a problem.
As for the “works as intended but we are looking into it”… I wouldnt expect anything until the next feature patch. When megaservers first came out they were “working as intended but we are looking for ways to improve it.”
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
I think its not.
Asking to be moved from a low population map, while the mini is hidden due to high population seems not to work as intended.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
While this is currently working as intended, it’s definitely something that we’ll be working on and tweaking in the future. We want you to be able to enjoy your minis so hang in there!
Look what they said in the news introducing new mini in gemstore:
“….Pick up the Mini Chieftain Utahein…… into the wide world!”
They should have mentioned that you have to be in a “EMPTY” world to see the mini…….
When will this intended terrible change be fixed? How long will Stephane’s future be?
