Guild Wars 2

Ayrilana.1396:

Syosha.5917:

Gkitten24:

Iason Evan.3806:

Ayrilana.1396:

Agemnon.4608:

Raxzor.5946:

First and foremost, release an official statement on your official forums!
Second, extend the event for a week.
Third, scrap the gold required for rewards.
And lastly give more blooms, as new players are not going to want to grind, grind, grind!

+1 especially on the gold requirement. Problem with it, especially at its current cost is the gold will simply be deleted from the game. All those hard won drops and vendoring will go poof and not into the hands of another player on the TP where it can actually circulate.

It’s better in the long run for that gold to be removed.

I wouldn’t even agree with you even if we were earning gold in this event which we aren’t. Even with the terrible Pavilion 2.0 Event where we had to use currency+gold to get so called rewards from the vendor, at least that event gave you drops. If you find this rewarding in any way shape or form, enjoy it. This is a bad event for new players as they have a lack of gold and they are getting no karma, no drops, no gold, and no xp to boot and it’s bad for vets because many of us have some/most/all of the items from the reward vendor.

Please explain why you think a reward vendor for an event specifically aimed at new players needs a gold sink. (ArenaNet’s own recommended level is to be at least level 18). New players don’t have the gold to blow on this event. If I were new I’d rather go play where I was getting XP/Karma/Gold/Drops.

Agree completely. I don’t need the vendor rewards as I already have most of them. the only reason for me to do this event would be if loot drops..which it doesn’t. Even ‘normal’ loot would entice me to do this again!

Really disappointed.

Well…it’s been pretty clear for a while now that Anet doesn’t like giving loot to players. You either have to pay for your rewards or get none at all!!!

I honestly don’t remember an event that has come out recently where normal trash mobs would give loot; Scarlet invasions, maybe?….

And remember all of the complaints where people would farm mobs rather than complete the events?

Yes, I remember those complaints. But the problem isn’t with completing the events, the problem is where/what the player feels will give him the better reward. Event completion gained you less rewards over-all than just farming the mobs would. I mean, just look at how most of the dynamic events in the game are ignored. You get more for killing monsters than you do for completing the event.

But…that’s just my opinion so….there’s my 2 cents. Have an awesome rest of the day!

The amount of salt generated by the mess up is pretty negative, I believe you should just cancel event and redo it when its fixed. It’s not a good impression for the new players experiencing it. Barely anyones wanting to do the events now because it doesn’t feel rewarding. Send a in game mail to everyone and address the situation, that should be easy enough.

This has been covered already, but the design that mobs drop no loot or events give no karma is bad. Ive done 4 whole events now and im tired of it, no sense of progression and reward.

Go back to the Aetherblade invasion, the championfarm back then was fun.

I agree 100%. Even if they fix the event most people now feel it is pointless and have moved on. Most of my guild have just gone back to do the dailys, PVP and dungeons and have said the whole event is meh.

I ended an event with 14 stacks. I stayed, revived players, put up boons, and dps’d.

Someone else on the map ended with 27 stacks. Just Waypoint jumped.

Confused why an event rewards poor team playing over working together as a group. o.o’’

Exactly, my guilds done the exact samething and just left the event, not even bothering with it because of the bad taste in their mouth.

Cancel this nonsense right now and rethink your valuation of your player’s time and effort. Even if the events were giving rewards it’s way WAY too low and there’s way WAY too much down time between events. This is worst designed content Anet has ever released, and that’s not a good sign for the future. You should be getting better.

are the people who got rewarded a consistent 5 blooms being given more when the rewards are given to those who didnt get anything or are those who got 5 blooms stuck with that and that’s it .

Cancel this nonsense right now and rethink your valuation of your player’s time and effort. Even if the events were giving rewards it’s way WAY too low and there’s way WAY too much down time between events. This is worst designed content Anet has ever released, and that’s not a good sign for the future. You should be getting better.

I would have to agree, as well.

The bickering and complaining never stops in map chat. It’s too toxic for me to want to continue.

New players will get a bad taste in their mouth.

We can wait. Please just take it down and fix it and allow everyone to enjoy it when it’s brought back up. Thank you.

I work this weekend sure people do as any one can tell you, but I can still play around 4-5hrs 6 if im an idiot. So The difference here is its 4 days and with the possibility of getting 0-5 tokens per rewards feels just wrong. Having an instance where new people are not able to level off the event kind of hurts, after the F2P announcement its kind of odd that they would have 10g already out side of RMT.
My personal concern is that the 0-5 statement for the tokens is harsh where some items cost 30 tokens and others in the hundreds. To get that many tokens with the possible aspect of getting 0 just is gross. Seeing people get nothing for doing it for 1-2hrs feels bad. If I was new and this was my 1st live event I would not be to happy about my purchase. Please either extend the event or set the tokens received to reflect the amount of time and effort placed into the events. You hyped this event in many ways, I was very excited to see what would happen. Now once I leave work its do some dungeons, pvp and maybe a fractal or two. I might try the world event who knows. Just a feel bad if I was new or had recently bought the game sorry Anet this event just feels lame now.

Who would have guessed.

yeah, I hate that.

Yes, how dare they use a system where you are, sooner or later, guaranteed to get the exact reward you want rather than hoping that you get a good random drop?

Its a good thing it is a currency, esp as ppl have asked for currency based rewards time and time again.

They should however, be in the currency wallet. Its designed for this exact purpose

ANet,

We need the totals we can expect from drops in this event. I applaud you for your effots to fix the bugs and am glad we can expect the rewards in a few days, however, I have an issue; I have no frame of reference to know whether this event is “for me”. The reason I say this is because I’d quite like some of the items in the event but I don’t know much I’m being rewarded for each event completion — and I’m not likely to find out for several days — so this means I don’t know if my efforts in this event are in vain or not.

Please release the numbers we can expect to farm – you owe us this as the content is released without this crucial info (your fault, let’s face it).

Sorry to be here complaining, I do truly enjoy your game otherwise.

It looks like just another poorly thought out, poorly implemented and poorly tested zerg rush to me.

Same here. If it’s so little we can only get one or two items, I might just not bother with it rather than farm the same boring set of events over and over and over. This event needs more enemies to fight, and many fewer vines to hit.

I doubt they’re going to stop it now it seems. I really hoped that they would have by now but seems we’re just going by the seat of our pants now. Good Luck guys, don’t think I’m going to play anything live like this, every time there’s a update they break something and creates a terrible atmosphere.

With The Mordrom Are Coming event, we are given another token to farm. Wouldn’t it be nice if I could convert the 20 Found Belongings and 379 Found Heirlooms I still have in my inventory for the blossoms or for Festival Tokens (to add to my stack of 220 left over)?

Uhm. I didn’t get to play this event yet, so i’m wondering…. what happened exactly? Why are you guys so kittened? O_o

Sir Alric.5078:

Uhm. I didn’t get to play this event yet, so i’m wondering…. what happened exactly? Why are you guys so kittened? O_o

The event is severely bugged at the moment, not dropping the rewards. People are very mad because of this. Anet has stated they will fix this and compensate for the rewards. I personally, though a bit disappointekitten ot overly bitter about the whole thing, especially if they said the want to fix it.

Lol, the negativity on chat can’t be good for the new f2p players. When players are upset, they chat about all negative stuffs anet has pulled off over the years. Not good.
Cancel and push it back till it’s fixed.

Sir Alric.5078:

Uhm. I didn’t get to play this event yet, so i’m wondering…. what happened exactly? Why are you guys so kittened? O_o

Theres a bug preventing rewards. Its being fixed, but unless you look at social media or forums, players in game dont understand what is happening and why 30mins of time is giving nothing. Thus the spiral of arguing. Its not pretty in map chat…

Plus the rewards vendor is expensive (seemingly) and some ppl dont like the event (seems as expected to me, but each to their own)

or, given the addition of the wallet to fix exactly this problem, why are we still using token items at all?

Gray.9041:

or, given the addition of the wallet to fix exactly this problem, why are we still using token items at all?

Because they want you to buy more bags and bank tabs.

Gossett.4238:

Sir Alric.5078:

Uhm. I didn’t get to play this event yet, so i’m wondering…. what happened exactly? Why are you guys so kittened? O_o

The event is severely bugged at the moment, not dropping the rewards. People are very mad because of this. Anet has stated they will fix this and compensate for the rewards. I personally, though a bit disappointekitten o overly bitter about the whole thing, especially if they said the want to fix it.

I see. Guess i can undestand the rage now. Thank you for the info. XD

Syosha.5917:

Ayrilana.1396:

Syosha.5917:

Gkitten24:

Iason Evan.3806:

Ayrilana.1396:

Agemnon.4608:

Raxzor.5946:

First and foremost, release an official statement on your official forums!
Second, extend the event for a week.
Third, scrap the gold required for rewards.
And lastly give more blooms, as new players are not going to want to grind, grind, grind!

+1 especially on the gold requirement. Problem with it, especially at its current cost is the gold will simply be deleted from the game. All those hard won drops and vendoring will go poof and not into the hands of another player on the TP where it can actually circulate.

It’s better in the long run for that gold to be removed.

I wouldn’t even agree with you even if we were earning gold in this event which we aren’t. Even with the terrible Pavilion 2.0 Event where we had to use currency+gold to get so called rewards from the vendor, at least that event gave you drops. If you find this rewarding in any way shape or form, enjoy it. This is a bad event for new players as they have a lack of gold and they are getting no karma, no drops, no gold, and no xp to boot and it’s bad for vets because many of us have some/most/all of the items from the reward vendor.

Please explain why you think a reward vendor for an event specifically aimed at new players needs a gold sink. (ArenaNet’s own recommended level is to be at least level 18). New players don’t have the gold to blow on this event. If I were new I’d rather go play where I was getting XP/Karma/Gold/Drops.

Agree completely. I don’t need the vendor rewards as I already have most of them. the only reason for me to do this event would be if loot drops..which it doesn’t. Even ‘normal’ loot would entice me to do this again!

Really disappointed.

Well…it’s been pretty clear for a while now that Anet doesn’t like giving loot to players. You either have to pay for your rewards or get none at all!!!

I honestly don’t remember an event that has come out recently where normal trash mobs would give loot; Scarlet invasions, maybe?….

And remember all of the complaints where people would farm mobs rather than complete the events?

Yes, I remember those complaints. But the problem isn’t with completing the events, the problem is where/what the player feels will give him the better reward. Event completion gained you less rewards over-all than just farming the mobs would. I mean, just look at how most of the dynamic events in the game are ignored. You get more for killing monsters than you do for completing the event.

But…that’s just my opinion so….there’s my 2 cents. Have an awesome rest of the day!

Exactly his – it’s all about the carrot on the stick. You do something for the reward it give otherwise what is the point? I can go elsewhere in the game and have the same amount of ‘fun’ smashing mobs and getting something for it in the end.

We have to many currencies as it is, though. Problem is, the more currencies you add, the more confused new players get. I coulda swore Extra Credits did a thing on this, but I can’t for the life of me remember which episode it was in. Regardless, token, , or currency bloat can be a big problem in MMOs.

Kravick.4906:

We have to many currencies as it is, though. Problem is, the more currencies you add, the more confused new players get. I coulda swore Extra Credits did a thing on this, but I can’t for the life of me remember which episode it was in. Regardless, token, , or currency bloat can be a big problem in MMOs.

It can be yes. TSW did a bold move merging everything into almost a single currency for everyything, incl raid gear. Ie what Karma was hoped to achieve.

Again, im kinda ok with it here, but currencies must be in the wallet. That reduces a lot of the problems straight off.

What’s the alternative? I can think of 3:

1) All the events reward a fixed item, either all the same one or one for each map/event type. This would drastically decrease the incentive to repeat the event, and there would have to be fewer rewards which would mean some players wouldn’t be interested in any of them.

2) The rewards are random. I’m not sure I even need to explain why this would be a bad idea, but the short version is a lot of people would get items they don’t want, some people would never get the ones they do want, and everyone ends up frustrated.

3) They reward a currency that already exists, which means some players would already have a stockpile and could get all the rewards without even participating. Maybe not a terrible thing, but it does defeat the point of the rewards, which is to get players to participate.

Randulf.7614:

Its a good thing it is a currency, esp as ppl have asked for currency based rewards time and time again.

They should however, be in the currency wallet. Its designed for this exact purpose

Haven’t been able to play yet, but are you saying that the new “currency” is yet another inventory clogging token, even after the wallet redesign and all the kittening and moaning it took to get bandit crests, geodes, etc. into it?

Surprising? No. Disappointing?
sigh Par for the course, I guess.

Special events have special currencies. When the event is over there is no way to get more and while they keep the NPC around to cash them in the left over are game tokens found in your junk drawer from a long dead arcade.

What I would like is some notification as to if these left over reward tokens will ever be used again so I can flush them or not. I ended up tossing a tri-key only to find out they dropped the chest into the new Lion’s Arch. Gee, thanks. Now I don’t want to get rid of anything anymore.

Besides all the lameness to its blooming rewards, also the lore is completely missing;

An email pops into your email box stating something is going on. and that’s it. no map cinematics, no actual npc’s with interesting dialogs on the maps regarding the event, nothing, oh yeah a vendor with super expensive stuff we’ll never be able to buy with the event begin broken in the first place and only 3 days left… awesome.

This feels indeed like a quick and cheap diversion to keep us busy. Yes you could say some aspects of this event leave some room for improvement…

I really do hope HoT will be nothing like this.. That makes me think that maybe this is bad on purpose to make HoT stand out even more.. we’ll see

I can understand that the mordrom blossoms are PvE/lore based. But can’t there be some collector who still is looking for other tokens and giving out the blossoms in exchange?

Danikat.8537:

What’s the alternative? I can think of 3:

1) All the events reward a fixed item, either all the same one or one for each map/event type. This would drastically decrease the incentive to repeat the event, and there would have to be fewer rewards which would mean some players wouldn’t be interested in any of them.

2) The rewards are random. I’m not sure I even need to explain why this would be a bad idea, but the short version is a lot of people would get items they don’t want, some people would never get the ones they do want, and everyone ends up frustrated.

3) They reward a currency that already exists, which means some players would already have a stockpile and could get all the rewards without even participating. Maybe not a terrible thing, but it does defeat the point of the rewards, which is to get players to participate.

1) If it’s an area I don’t like, I’m not going to play in that area anyway. For example: Dry top. I mapped the area and rarely did any events. So I was not able to obtain any of the fossil weapons. If they had stuck with karma or gold, then I could farm an area I like and get the fossil weapons I want. There is absolutely no reason to lessen rewards in any area.

2) Rewards don’t need to be random. They could sell everything like they do now, buy from a merchant in the area.

3) I don’t have a problem if some players have billions of a currency and can buy whatever they want. They should be able to buy whatever they want since they play the game all the time.

Heck, I was a bit disappointed when I found out the event was only going to last 4 days, but after the brouhaha with rewards and bugs, I’m not even sure I even want to check it out now.

Who am I kidding, right? I know I’ll check it out, but I won’t be the least bit upset if they opt for a mulligan.

They wont cancel it, look what happened with the golem rush week, they just let it play out and didn’t say a word…

Guys you’ll get the rewards you’re owed just delayed.. Its really not a big deal.

I’m not happy with this event at all. Did a single circuit, no rewards, and dc’d in one, so won’t get anything for that one. Since there are no rewards, I have no idea how many events I would need to do to have enough blooms to buy what I want from the vendor. Also, the idea of having to tag an event, way point to next event, tag, move to next event, etc etc is horrible game play idea.

Mordrem invasion need to have last boss in there events that give good loot,if you are running around and tagging all the events you will get 3-4x more stacks than players that stay and finish the events and I think it totally unfair system.

Mojo Gris Gris.5941:

Haven’t been able to play yet, but are you saying that the new “currency” is yet another inventory clogging token, even after the wallet redesign and all the kittening and moaning it took to get bandit crests, geodes, etc. into it?

They’re not going to add a temporary currency to the wallet.

Yeah its stupid, when after 30 mins people are posting how they have 25+ stacks and are proud of it, despite the fact that they just leached every event they possibly could, this stacks idea is just terrible and just promotes leaching.

If the mobs dropped any kind of loot I may be more inclined to stay.

But as it is, nah kitten that, meteor shower and move on. :^)

What if… it’s a trap. If ArenaNet is going to retroactively reward players due the bug, that means they’re tracking it. Anyone with 30+ stacks is obviously leeching. Let’s see if ArenaNet takes this opportunity.

One day, hopefully they fix the contribution system. That day will be gloriously filled with complaints. Unfortunately, it will likely never happen for various reasons (too taxing on the servers, events won’t be casual friendly).

This is very sad to see that Arenanet continues to promote tag’n’run mentality.

Please don’t make this bullkitten mandatory in HoT.

Coulter.2315:

Guys you’ll get the rewards you’re owed just delayed.. Its really not a big deal.

It actually IS a big deal, and here is why.

People have done the math illustrating that if the reward was in fact 5 blooms, it would take all but 4 hours of the available time to actually get a skin from the vendor, thus effectively making them impossible (and thus pointless).

They are expecting people to simply do the events while receiving no reward while simply promising some reward later that no one knows about. That sound like something you want to do? You want to farm events for 5 hours and end up with 25 freaking blooms at some point? They have skirted the issue literally all day, from the moment this started happening and some people reported the amount they actually got. Every single thread about the Mordrem event has someone asking for clarification on if 5 is the actual number only to be repeatedly ignored while having other questions answered by Gaile. There is simply no way that question was not relayed and it is being skirted for some reason. What that is, who knows, but it definitely does not look good.

I agree that we should stop this event and the restart again at a later time when the kinks and bugs have been fixed so that everyone, new and old, can enjoy the event more.

Thanks just #my2cents

The event will end up like the Scarlet Invasion ones did: people will tag the events, and then leave them to tag the next one without finishing the first one (expecting other people to finish it for them). Yay. :\

Mordrem Invasion reward scheme (once Anet gets it working) is faulty by design – your blooms scale by the number of incursion events you partake in. This makes tagging in to as many events as possible the most effective means of getting the blooms and the rewards behind them. However, tagging and running to next event is quite counter-intuitive, and can hurt the cooperative effort of the map. So, that’s the problem explained, now for the fix.

Make each incursion two events. The first event is as is right now, but doesn’t increase the event counter that your blooms scale to. The second one triggers once the first is completed, scales to the amount of players present (in order to not die too quickly, so as to not prevent people present getting their credit, but fast enough that you need to be in the vicinity to make it), and counts for the incursion counter. Of course, some would still attempt to tag the second event and run, but sticking around for the full event would be far more lucrative than it is now.