Guild Wars 2

The Dreamer is amazing, keep it as it is.

Also people who don’t like the sound effects of Quip and Dreamer now have alternatives in the form of Hope and Chuka and Champawat.

Honestly, I don’t mind the sounds with the Legendaries. The changes would be a good idea though. There are a ton of comments on the forums about them.

Now as for the hissing in the Airship… What is Keenan’s account name? I’ll send them 100 gold to show my appreciation!

The changes sound perfectly fine to me, although I haven’t finished either yet, but I do look forward to them eventually.

I think it depends on what the new sounds are. Is it possible to get any more detail on that? Maybe hear it (as a youtube video or something)?

The Dreamer is my favourite legendary and main weapon but I’m actually largely indifferent to the sound it makes. It’s not why I like it, but it also doesn’t bother me, so I wouldn’t mind it being changed, but that does depend on what the new sound is.

For what it’s worth I prefered the old sound which was ‘slower’ and ‘deeper’, it sounded more like a horse neighing than the current one and was less shrill which seems to be the main complaint about the current one.

I’d prefer just being able to uniquely turn off the Dreamer and Quip sound effects from user preferences (ie. have a slider specifically for gear sounds), but if that’s too much effort then replacing them with something less intrusive would be great. They are hugely bothersome for me, and having to constantly battle my sound volumes based on who is playing nearby me at any given time is very frustrating.

I dont own the Dreamer nor do i want it, I already hate it when others use it around me. I welcome any change that makes this bow less annoying.

I love the Dreamer, and ponies are cute, but that being said, I don’t like the neighing that much. (it’s a bit noisy)

Any magical, cute, glittery sound as a replacement would make me happy.

easiest fix in my opinion, turn down the volume for sound (you can leave NPC/dialogue volume up if that’s a concern to you)

Going to sound odd but is a simple solution to this problem be we unlock two skins of the same look meaning if we wish to have a normal weapon sound we could skin the normal sounding one over the legendary sound one? Also could be a solution for people who dislike footsteps or something ? Allows different people to both eat their cake….. I actually skin my predator just for reason the sound of it gets irritating after a while. Love the look or it though.

I don’t personally have one, but I think many players pursued the Dreamer because of the sound. It would be highly unfair to them to change its behavior in such a significant manner appease a handful of forum complainers.

Keesh.5689:

Going to sound odd but is a simple solution to this problem be we unlock two skins of the same look meaning if we wish to have a normal weapon sound we could skin the normal sounding one over the legendary sound one? Also could be a solution for people who dislike footsteps or something ? Allows different people to both eat their cake….. I actually skin my predator just for reason the sound of it gets irritating after a while. Love the look or it though.

That wouldn’t really work, since a lot of the people who complain about these weapons (particularly the Dreamer) aren’t using it themselves, they’re just annoying by other people using it within their hearing.

So this wouldn’t help them at all, and may lead to some of the…less civil individuals putting undue pressure on the user to swap to the other skin.

Make that I can’t hear the dreamer sounds if I don’t have the weapon. If people made it and they enjoy the sound effect, that’s fine, but if I play with someone who has the dreamer, the auto attack sound is rather annoying in my opinion. Only the weapon owner should hear the sounds.

Please don’t change these weapons. They both have a lot of character to them and considering that people have made these weapons for these reasons, it would kind of blow to have that taken away from them.

I understand some people don’t like these extra noises, so a little “disable weapon noises” would probably be the way to go.

Thanks <3

Keep dreamer the same as it is. Its part of the whole package.
Will say keep quip the same too, but I can’t remember its sounds. Don’t think I’ve encountered that many quip users.

As a player who acquired both Quip and The Dreamer primarily for the sound effects, I would be considerably upset if they were changed. That’s perhaps the ONLY appeal of Quip. The Dreamer still has sweet unicorn projectiles, but it’d certainly be a step down to lose those sounds.

yes plz! Playing my thief with the dreamer is soo annoying to listen to. And i get contant complaints from ppl around me cause of it

Please dont change quip and dreamer.

The Dreamer is amazing, please don’t touch it

Rather than a minor change to these two specific items, I’d rather have a toggle or slider in the preferences to mute anything that can be considered as an annoyance. The Dreamer and Quip are indeed very annoying for the surrounding players but the Job-o-Tron tools/backpack are just as much annoying for example. Thankfully I can already mute the flutes by lowering the player instruments bar.

Can you make Mjolnir to also have sound of Conjured Lightning hammer?

I have quip on my engi, you dont hear it hardly since I’m in kits most of the time. the only skill where the sound of quip gets old is thiefs unload.

most of the time the sound of quip or the pony bow brings a smile to me, if the sounds where altered i think it would be a huge kick in the guts for alot of people that have made these legendarys

As a fan of the Dreamer, please don’t change it. I couldn’t hear it from my friend using her newly crafted bow (not sure why), and I was really disappointed. As for Quip, I don’t often see it really so it doesn’t bother me either way.

If you ultimately decide to change them, can we please hear them before the change goes live and have a poll? I was really bummed when Kraitkin’s nightmode was removed, so I just ask that you take as much care as possible with changing legendary weapons.

Please do not change the sound effects of the weapons. People have spent tremendous amounts of time and gold to get the weapons and like the weapons how they are. Taking things away from them would be a first for gw2 and a slap in the face for everyone that worked hard to get those effects.

Anything that removes the possibility that I will ever again be subjected to the horrific sound of ‘that’ bow for extended periods, gets my vote.

I made two quips for the sound and look, if that was changed I would be disappointed with the legendaries I crafted.

Personally I find quip annoying, the dreamer less so but for me it’s the spamming that annoys me more than anything.

Nothing worse than seeing a thief spamming unload with quip in LA or when we’re waiting somewhere just to annoy people. So maybe an avenue to explore is making the sounds happen more on skill activation than per projectile launched?

I also liked OneUP’s suggestion of making it only play for the owner and not everyone else who will hear default sounds. Would solve many issues with sounds people find annoying not just on these 2 high profile sounds.

I love that effects and i’m absolutely not annoyed listening them, furthermore it was the main motivation for me for making the Quip.
The only proposal i’d like is to add a button in the options to mute weapon’s sound, so who really gets annoyed will just deactivate them.

Please don’t do it.

I think that the sound effects are an integral part of those legendaries, and they should not be changed. This isn’t a sure upgrade, like Kudzu’s bowstring, or Minstrel’s draw effect; this is a change, and while it will be an upgrade for some, it will be a downgrade for others, and this should be avoided with such expensive skins. Some players made the weapons specifically for the sounds.

I own neither of these weapons myself, and it’s rare I find someone who does. But it would be like reducing the size or duration of my Eternity’s footfalls or trail. Some players might want that, but I certainly do not.

I find the sounds that both these weapons make to be extremely obnoxious. This would be fine if I could avoid hearing them by simply not using them, but if other players have them equipped I have to listen to them nonstop. In a lot of situations this kills immersion in the game since they are basically novelty weapons, at least as far as the sounds are concerned.

I understand that some people may enjoy these effects, so I would really just prefer an option that is something like “use default sounds for other players”. If that is not technically possible, then I think the suggestion of giving them a different sound effect with a small chance to make the original effect is a good one.

DO NOT make ANY changes to the sounds made by Quip/Dreamer. I’m slowly working my way to making Dreamer, specifically because of the way it sounds.

And I won’t be happy if that changes.

No changes for me thanks.

I don’t have either Legendary, and I do find them HUGELY annoying, specially when three or four are in the same area like a world boss, or when the owner spams the fire in town just annoy those sorting out their banks. They might think it is cute but they are just being kittens.
That said, I think it would be unfair on owners to change it. I would much prefer a button where I could turn off the extreme weapon effects for myself without losing normal combat sounds.

At the very least please allow for other people to get rid of the noise. I can’t stand it when someone is right next to me firing horses in every direction. Enjoy your legendary, but please don’t ruin my experience for it.

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I don’t have either Legendary, and I do find them HUGELY annoying, specially when three or four are in the same area like a world boss, or when the owner spams the fire in town just annoy those sorting out their banks. They might think it is cute but they are just being kittens.
That said, I think it would be unfair on owners to change it. I would much prefer a button where I could turn off the extreme weapon effects for myself without losing normal combat sounds.

About as unfair as when they added these sounds …

Keesh.5689:

Going to sound odd but is a simple solution to this problem be we unlock two skins of the same look meaning if we wish to have a normal weapon sound we could skin the normal sounding one over the legendary sound one? Also could be a solution for people who dislike footsteps or something ? Allows different people to both eat their cake….. I actually skin my predator just for reason the sound of it gets irritating after a while. Love the look or it though.

Hmm, ‘sound skins’? If GW2 were being written from scratch an item owner could pick one but other people could override all other sounds in the game …. maybe even have sound sets of those preferences?

Sounds are a bit tricky. Something that is fingernails on the blackboard to one person will be musical ambrosia to someone else.

I made quip becuse I love the sound and effects it has, please don’t change it. Thouse that don’t like the sound don’t have to make it, thay can use a diffrent skin.
If you do want to change something on it, the foot prints could be made a little more noticeable. Maybe more of a pop when you step or more streamers, brighter colours?

I strongly vote for changing their sounds!

No change please. I own Quip and built a whole character around using such a silly weapon.

I’d be willing to trade the sound for much more prominent visual effects though.

Ive started on “The Dreamer” as my next project in gw2, and it is to 99% because of the sound. I like it. I like the annoying whinnying, because its special, its unique. Which, tbh, should be for every legendary.

Imo, most legendaries arent really that special, and for most weapons I actually prefer gemshop skins.

Not “The Dreamer” though. And thats really mainly because of the sound, it makes this legendary really legendary.

Now… I can understand people getting annoyed by it, its like the Ho-ho-tron bells. Once you are annoyed by it, it can really tick you out, because you start focusing on it.

So how about a compromise? I know its not easy to realize, but maybe we could get a slider in sound options to turn down (or up !) legendary weapon effects?

Personally, until we get more information, Im stopping my project right now. Im not gonna spend time farming for a weapon I like because of the sound, just to get it nerfed into nothingness in the future. I already have Nevermore, which Im not allowed to use anymore because of the ravens. Im not gonna risk another legendary to become useless to me.

So, while Im grateful about getting notified about some planned changes, at the same time the prospect of ANY changes to the sound of “The Dreamer” make me just not wanting to have it anymore.

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If special sounds arent annoying to anyone anymore, they are mundane background noises, not worthy of a legendary item. Its actually imo the biggest flaw nearly all legendary weapons have. Take Bolt for example. The graphics are nice-ish, the animations are cool. The sounds are boring. Or Twilight. Graphics are supberb, animations really good, sounds non existent.
Its like a dimension is missing with those legendaries.

I do not own any of these, but i have to say that if there was a button to mute dreamer, it would be first thing in settings i set. It is sooooooooo annoying. Please change it.

Please. Just classify the sounds of Legendary Weapons as Musical Instruments (such as the Glint hymn – even though it’s not a Legendary weapon). There is already a sound FX adjustable slider for it.

If you don’t enjoy the sounds, you are going to have to make the decision to lower the volume or completely mute Legendary weapon sound FX with all musical instruments and vice-versa. Have it be an option that the Players can control rather than an update no one has control over.

They need to go asap

I say absolutely do not change them. The sounds could be the entire reason people made them. Never remove features from something like a legendary, that would be a slap in the face. A chance to play the sounds is nothing like always playing the sounds they’ve always made for 4.5 years. It’s far too late. It’s a vocal minority complaining about them.

I have both and would be extremely frustrated if this change went live. Again, they’ve been the same way for 4.5 years and very likely people made them with the sounds they make as part of the decision to sink potentially hundreds of hours of effort into them with no reason to think they’d ever be changed.

Emphatic no.

My biggest problem with Dreamer has always been the frequency. An internal cooldown of 5-10 seconds or only triggering it on non-autoattack skills would greatly reduce the annoyance.

Possibly as a suggestion, see if it sticks, fire off a pony once per cooldown, change the pitch off the irritating whinny (make it lower), and on shots during the cooldown, make it a mellow sprinkling while firing pixie dust. Seems apropos.

I find The Dreamer’s constant neighing really annoying.

And it is obvious other players run around firing it when no enemies are around just to troll people(You know who you are!).

Maybe make the neighing sound trigger every 3-5th shot? That way it keeps its character.

There seem to be less players with Quip, or at least they don’t use it as much to troll, so I got no problem with that one.

Imho the best option would be to add a sound option to mute all weapon sounds – quip sounds, dreamer sounds, storm bow one, hunter, astralaria or now beastslayer rifle one (other people also said that). So a player can individualy enjoy/be rid of that noise.
Another thing that came into my mind is that I love my quip sound (and I made it for the sound) but I hate other people’s dreamer’s one so… maybe an option to mute all weapon sounds with the additional option to mute all other players’ sounds but mine. This could also be used in character voices – we have option to mute all voice (retreat!, wahs the pain away! I can outrun a centaur!, etc…) and it would be cool to have an option to hear your character’s voice, but not others…

Is it possible to keep the sounds the same for the wielder, while toning them down for bystanders?

Since we are changing sounds, how about the Whisper’s Secret Pistol? It has a suppressor, so… should sound different, right?

I hate the sounds, they’re very annoying, but I understand people have crafted them for that reason, so:

• The idea of your designer sounds okayish – if it’s rare enough, it’s tolerable – but still rare distinct sounds for no apparent reason can become distracting in challenging content.

• Alternatively, these sounds can play only for the wielder (client-side), and not to other players.

• Or these two ideas can be combined: always on for the wielder, but a very rare chance for other players.