Why?
Random filler message that is ruining my point behind simply asking why, since there is a minimum character count for posting.
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Perhaps the OP doesn’t like being at a level that is divisible by 8?
Seems reasonable! MOAR LEVELS then!
Sigh…
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I really don’t see a need or good use for more levels. I vote no.
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Was wondering if maybe the GW2 team could raise the level cap from 80 to i dont know maybe 100 or something, give a little more.
I don’t see anything 100 levels would give that 80 wouldn’t, with the sole exception of invalidating all current gear. Which is something i’d really hate to see.
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Why? What would the point be?
Higher levels constantly being added to other MMOs are a means to invalidate gear and constantly push players up the gear grind treadmill of vertical progression.
Vertical progression in other MMOs is a big deal because it affects your performance and your capacity to participate in various amounts of content in that game.
This game has very little vertical progression that in no way affects your viability in the game or your ability to complete content.
GW2 focuses on a horizontal progression system which is completely different.
So – again I ask – why change the game’s entire design philosophy ?
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OP, you may find this useful: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/List-of-Common-Controversial-Forum-Topics/first#levelcap
7. GEAR PROGRESSION / LEVEL CAP RAISE
[~] Threads for reference:
[+] Arguments in favour:
- That other game has it; we’ve seen it done there and enjoyed it.
- A game without progression is pointless. We cannot feel good if we’re not progressing in the game, gear progression and level cap increase will refresh the game and bring people back.
[-] Arguments against:
- This game is about horizontal progression, not vertical progression. Primarily: skins. That’s why it’s nicknamed Fashion Wars (not Gear Grind Wars), and many people like it for that very reason. Other games squeeze out your money by introducing an obligatory new stat level with every patch; GW2 is honest with you: you paid once and you’re done, you won’t be artificially pushed to pay for the game to “keep up with others”. This is a thing a lot of people start appreciating at some point.
- Apart from players who simply enjoy challenges which come with gear progression, there is a considerable amount of players who need gear progression to establish psychological superiority (see also Open-world PvP and Dueling). These players are focused on infinite progression because they can use online video games as a compensation for unsatisfied offline desires (being “better” by comparing oneself to “noobs”). The above usually goes along with offensive behaviour (with as far as death threat whispers), which is not tolerated in GW2. To discourage this kind of players from joining the community, GW2 instead encourages players to work on horizontal progression (looks) or towards the minor long-term vertical goals like ascended and/or legendary gear, fractals personal reward level and PvP/WvW ranks. A considerable amount of players like GW2 for this “casual” atmosphere and would prefer to have as little unhealthy competition among players as possible.
- It contradicts the GW2’s concept of “pay once, come back when you want”. Casual-type players, unlike hardcore, do not like to be overwhelmed and left behind when they come back, they can as well drop the game altogether. Ascended rarity has already caused an uproar (and according to some claims, lead to many players leaving), while it is rather achievable for an active player and the stat difference can be outweighed by skill. Another level of rarity will split the community even more, possibly resulting in an exodus of players with buyer’s remorse.
- Challenge can be increased by giving new mechanics to enemies and by increasing their stats without raising the level cap. We can already see it done in zones like Silverwastes.
[=] Current state of affairs:
- “Gear progression” threads are met with negativity by those who bought the advertised casual “no gear treadmill” game, and with positivity from players from other games who are naturally used to gear progression and view it as an incentive to play. The negative approach is considerable.
20 level 80s and counting.
Adding levels doesn’t add anything to the game. We still gain skill points on level up, and, in order to avoid messing up traits, ANet would have to push the player’s access to traits from lv30 to lv50(!) I think that’d be a seriously unhealthy change, personally.
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No. Levels are artificial meaningless progressions. Games should have 0.
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NO!
Absolutely not!
Unnecessary!
Ugh I was just having this conversation with my coworker. I think I’ll go smack him just cause I can’t smack the OP.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Got 46 charaters who all vote no to increase the level cap, all looking at their wallet in panic.
Bad enough when patches makes some runes/sigils worthless and lots of them have to go and get new runes/sigils again.
Appart from that i dont see the need, since you need to redesign the traits to match the new levels and tons of other things need to be reworked to work with the level increase. Better if they focus on fixing some of the many bugs instead of making new bugs with useless level increase.
Same here. I do not want to buy new gear for my 20 characters…
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Tip : destroy all your armor, weapons and trinkets .. and grind out new stuff.
Since that is mostly what a new level cap does.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
they would increase the level cap to 82 for that negligible 2-5% increase in stats
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Was wondering if maybe the GW2 team could raise the level cap from 80 to i dont know maybe 100 or something, give a little more.
No. Absolutely not.
There’s no point. As it is the level cap is too high and they had to adjust the trait system to make levels past 60 actually mean something.
Also, resetting peoples gear and making them have to chase after the gear grind all over especially with ascended equipment and legendaries… if they raise the cap, I’m done with this game. I’m not doing these grinds again.
Level cap raise is not EXPANSION it’s REPLACEMENT. the progression is an ILLUSION.
If anything I wish this game would drop down to a cap of 30.
Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer
Don’t forget that raising the level cap is even more complicated in GW2 than other games, since it implies you’ll get more trait points. Even 2 more trait points would make some builds incredibly, incredibly OP. Everything in the game would need to be re-balanced from scratch.
Every game has to completely rebalance when they raise the cap, they have to create new ratings systems and everything and even then stats get stupidly inflated to where they no longer mean anything. All to propel the ILLUSION that you are progressing.
Level cap increases cause problems, they’re just not worth it.
Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer
