Guild Wars 2

Well here are mine.

Ok, this should be the main mounts thread from now on.

edit: this was for the pre-merged GIF thread. Rest in merged mediocrity, poor thread

I found another one:

All together now!

Mounts in this game would seem silly unless they were all mechanical or such. When we have animals as playable races and minor races/cultures that we deal with it just seems too silly.

Cats, rats (skritt, perhaps mice?), frogs, polar bears, 2 legged upright walking chicken birds, horses, heck even plants! You see where I am going? Sure dolyaks may be the exception but still….

And that’s not even going into the discussion about waypoints, small maps and even world. If anything we MAY get some sort of flying in the future. No I am not talking about gliding, that is nothing more than falling in style and with some sort of control.

No I mean actual flying (google Perfectworld if you must) where we can stay in the air and even ascend up. This could bring in a lot more exploration and bring back the hype to the game that the verticality with water combat had first promised.

Lets face it water and water combat failed. Why did it fail? If you don’t take into account all of the bugs associated with it. Mainly because we are forced to use different weapons and skills that we are not used to using and which are usually worse due to many different reasons. One example could be that when we build our builds we mainly spec for land and thus we lose a lot of that in water.

Looking back to flight just imagine it as water combat without all those bugs and with our usual skills and weapons.

When Anet brought gliding to central Tryia they mentioned in 1 of their vids when they were playing around with the idea and tested it they got super excited about it, especially for WVW.

They had ideas of having air combat, you fly in and could even attack towers/castles with aerial combat. I can see this still happening in the future, just not yet. Why not yet? Well, for a start not everyone has access to gliding so that would be kind of unfair. Add to that we still do not have actual flying but a weaker version like I said earlier. But if we look ahead to the next expansion we could ask ourselves this: “okay Anet gave us gliding last time which was a BIG improvement to the game, what can they give us this time?” Actual flying would not really seem unlikely to me. Especially taking into account their ideas about the aerial combat they dreamed of. Also take into account when the next expansion hits, HOT will probably be given to everyone. So that opens up the door to aerial combat possibilities to some extent. So I have hopes.

Summary: traditional mounts as other games do it? Unlikely. Dreams of future actual flying with possible air “mounts”, gliders, wings, misc contraptions which could act like mounts but for air? Not as unlikely or as far fetched as you may think – hopeful/wishful thinking.

Paulytnz.7619:

Lets face it water and water combat failed. Why did it fail? If you don’t take into account all of the bugs associated with it. Mainly because we are forced to use different weapons and skills that we are not used to using and which are usually worse due to many different reasons. One example could be that when we build our builds we mainly spec for land and thus we lose a lot of that in water.

I actually think water combat failed because it’s too confusing/hard for a good chunk of players (on top of few to no utility skills [lolthieves] and difficult meleeing). I mean, we are looking at things like the NPE and continuous nerfs to things that require some sort of onscreen awareness.
Of course, if you keep butchering every aspect of the game that actually has any form of underwater combat people can never get used to it in the first place. But seeing how there aren’t even BL skins for UW weapons for a good while now (and I think confirmation that there won’t be new UW legendaries either), I think it’s really time to just scrap underwater combat as a whole. Clearly it’s going nowhere and remains yet another kitten idea that had great potential but was ultimately left to rot.

Sourde Noire.5286:

Paulytnz.7619:

Lets face it water and water combat failed. Why did it fail? If you don’t take into account all of the bugs associated with it. Mainly because we are forced to use different weapons and skills that we are not used to using and which are usually worse due to many different reasons. One example could be that when we build our builds we mainly spec for land and thus we lose a lot of that in water.

I actually think water combat failed because it’s too confusing/hard for a good chunk of players (on top of few to no utility skills [lolthieves] and difficult meleeing). I mean, we are looking at things like the NPE and continuous nerfs to things that require some sort of onscreen awareness.
Of course, if you keep butchering every aspect of the game that actually has any form of underwater combat people can never get used to it in the first place. But seeing how there aren’t even BL skins for UW weapons for a good while now (and I think confirmation that there won’t be new UW legendaries either), I think it’s really time to just scrap underwater combat as a whole. Clearly it’s going nowhere and remains yet another kitten idea that had great potential but was ultimately left to rot.

It’s sad really as I did like underwater combat myself personally. But I play every class and have experienced them all to world complete so I know how each of them play waterwise. Some classes were just more suited for it than others (ranger was one of my faves for example). Heck look at the mess Rev was when it first came, they had practically NO support at all for water and that bug took a while to get fixed (land and water stances chosen would always revert back).

And yes you are right the more they take water combat out of the game of coure it just adds to the problem. First PvP and then WvW. Add to that as you said no new wep skins or water areas in any of the new maps after Southsun it all points to them giving up on it.

Then we look at what they did with HOT. Add more to the verticality for exploration and stretching out game content. It’s like going in the opposite direction of water combat but at the same time kind of the same thing.

Which gets me back to topic – Air mounts yes please- after actual flying is added of course! No one can use the old cry of “but we have wp’s what’s the point?” We have no WPs in the air and even if you are close to the area it can take a while to get vertical again and reach that area/content. Claiming the maps are too small is also now redundant as the verticality and many layers can greatly expand to the sizes of the maps. Heck they could even go back to the old Tyria and add more layers for air content if they felt like it. Adding NEW exploration/content without having to really create totally full new maps.

So the only question that now remains is this. Anet, when is my flying Harley coming? Oh and of course my Engi main is still waiting for his Tommygun Kit…..

Doesn’t seem worth it, there are already waypoints and it isn’t a fully open-world so any journey is bound to be short lived. There alternatives if you wish to get your mount fix.

extra graphics needed would also destroy the little fps so no unneeded

OH BOY

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Why would you ruin the challenges of gliding, like the longest glide ap in TD for a flying mount. Anet has set precedence for mounts. They are golems, brooms, carpets, the digging tool. If your ideal of a mount differs then find the game with mounts that match your definitions. If you want flying mounts, go back to wow.

Deedrick.4372:

Why would you ruin the challenges of gliding, like the longest glide ap in TD for a flying mount. Anet has set precedence for mounts. They are golems, brooms, carpets, the digging tool. If your ideal of a mount differs then find the game with mounts that match your definitions. If you want flying mounts, go back to wow.

Who are you talking to exactly? If you are talking to me I never played WoW past 30 mins of a free trial. I could tell right off the bat it was garbage and not for me.

Who said anything about ruining gliding or the challenges we currently have with them? Ask yourself this question: “when I bought HOT did I get gliding straight away or did I have to work for it?” The answer of course is you had to EARN it. Now in any new expansion we should expect new masteries to come and with that any rewards from those to be earned. So by the time you have your actual flying you should have easily over come any of the gliding parts of the game and their challenges. Going back to that content with actual flying could actually be just another way to totally explore that area and see anything you may have missed beforehand when your airborne abilities were limited. This is pretty much what gliding in Tryia does for us. Should we also not have that, are you asking for them to take that away also?

Also add to the fact that you will probably have to have HOT and beaten it to be able to even experience another expansion so again you should have already done that content. Well that is if they continue with their current trend – Having to buy LS2 and beat it before you can get HOT and do that.

What I said and what I could see them doing was in response to a video I watched of anet Devs/staff saying how excited they were for gliding to come to Tyria. And all the possibilities that they could do with that. Heck if anet staff were already thinking something like this and excited about it who are you or anyone else to say “no, go play wow” or whatever?

Relax, take a chill pill, it’s not like I made this thread and was actually suggesting it as a serious suggestion. Heck I even ended my posting with “wishful thinking” or “dreaming” or some such. I suppose you took my flying Harley and Tommygun as serious as well (but in all seriousness Anet, Tommygun – make it happen!).

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

I found another one:

All together now!

Omg ppl ur really sick, those poor horses.

I was on the “let’s have mount!” train when the game was first released. Every other game has them, so why not GW2?

Well, after playing a good bit at release, and then off and on the last few years, I got off that train. The fast travel system with waypoints makes mounts completely unnecessary. Mounts would only serve as a way to flaunt gold/gems, and crowd important NPCs.

/deadhorse.gif

theerrantventure.9185:

I was on the “let’s have mount!” train when the game was first released. Every other game has them, so why not GW2?

Well, after playing a good bit at release, and then off and on the last few years, I got off that train. The fast travel system with waypoints makes mounts completely unnecessary. Mounts would only serve as a way to flaunt gold/gems, and crowd important NPCs.

/deadhorse.gif

And more importantly another item to put in the cash shop and reskin countless times and colour variations.

Well i dont mind mounts, what i do mind is the lack of waypoints in HOT maps… most of them are also contested!! so to all the people saying we dont need mounts, what about HOT zones? i really dislike those zones because you have to walk ALLOT of there, and @ ANET fix those kitten contested waypoints! some arent even being attacked and still contested

nicknamenick.2437:

Well i dont mind mounts, what i do mind is the lack of waypoints in HOT maps… most of them are also contested!! so to all the people saying we dont need mounts, what about HOT zones? i really dislike those zones because you have to walk ALLOT of there, and @ ANET fix those kitten contested waypoints! some arent even being attacked and still contested

I will never understand why we have contested waypoints. People would do more events if they could jump right into action. Sometimes people on map chat say “Event here – linked contested waypoint”. I run there from a “free” waypoint aaand the event ends just before I arrive! Ugh, I hate it.

I want more “toy mounts” like the magic carpet, broom stick, etc. But I want to be able to use all my movement abilities while riding them. Like “Rocket Boots” on engie, various sword and greatsword skills on warrior, blink for Mesmer, ride the lightning for ele, etc.etc.etc.

I just want to use all the movement skills I already have while riding a purely cosmetic mount.

Again?!

These threads are hilarious

These threads are a symptom of the fact that waypoints in HOT zones are rarely reliable with the exception of the one at the zone entrance.

You all may beat the dead horse but if ANET keeps making zones with shoddy waypoints the horse will keep trying to rise and feast on our brains like the zombie it is.

lioka qiao.8734:

These threads are a symptom of the fact that waypoints in HOT zones are rarely reliable with the exception of the one at the zone entrance.

If you look back through the kittening multitude of threads on this forum, you’ll see that people wanted fewer waypoints per zone. They liked it when they did it in Dry Top and Silverwastes. They felt that lots of waypoints made the world feel too small because we could get around too easy. “We” got what “we” asked for.

Regardless of that, people have always wanted mounted (with speed boosts) claiming that it would make the world feel more expansive. More immersive. Because we wouldn’t be using waypoints.

Well guess what… we’re using our feet. We’re not using waypoints. We have the speed boosts.

Mounts aren’t going to make that kitten better.

Gliding in Tyria is great because it gives you an edge but it’s not overpowered. As previous posters said, it’s not flying, it’s “falling with style”.

Flying, on the other hand, would break many parts of the game. Just look at the “back peddling” Blizzard had to do when they realized flying broke WoW.

Between speed boosts, gliding and a multitude of waypoints, I think we’re fine without mounts or flying here.

Another one?
People, please just look at it. I think it is already mashed enough.

I saw a Haiku recently about Mounts in Gw2:

No no no no no
No no no no no no no
No no no no no

edit: Not to say that I don’t want them myself, but this topic has been around for 3 years, and the answer has pretty much been the same. No.

Soleil.1304:

I didn’t know mobs had mounts. Wow the alliance is dumber than the mobs.

Hunters have pets that are more than big enough to ride, yet never does… Just dumb, very very dumb. Every tribe in historical existence has used animals as mounts if they were able to tame big enough livestock.

Ah, so you’ve just arrived from WoW, and think we should have mounts because they do.

Mounts have already saved the game. There was an epic battle between gw1 and gw2. Sadly, the records have been lost. The mounts saved Tyria but died in the process, sacrificing themselves so that we may live. That’s why there are no mounts anymore. May they live forever in our hearts.

Just get two mini pets and use them as roller blades.

Soleil.1304:

An entire world with no mounts for player NOR NPC’s is just too unrealistic. Every civilization has used them and yet Tyria can’t figure out how to tame a few? How dumb are these inhabitants? I’m sure humans will have a chance against the centaurs if they had mounts. The tactical advantage is obvious and yet the humans don’t have a cavalry?

Suggestion: Release a Black Lion mount in a similar timing as the Black Lion Weapon Skins. Each new release will have 1 new mount. Cost: 1700 gems or equivalent.

First of all this game doesn’t need saving. If it DID, mounts wouldn’t do it.

Second of all, as mentioned by others, mounts do exist in HoT for some enemy npcs.

Third, mounts are not necessary from a game standpoint. so many mechanisms already exist. that being the case, I WILL agree that its a tad unrealistic; humans and others WOULD be using mounts from a story perspective.

From a game mechanics perspective, however, it isn’t necessary.

Hm. Just had a thought. What if mounts were included in the game, but as either a weapon set (“my warrior just equipped the Cavalier elite spec, which allows me to equip the Mounted Lance weapon… a two handed weapon that also assigns me to a mount!”) or, perhaps, an elite skill ("once my cavalier, actives the “Mount Up!” elite skill, I’m mounted until someone breaks my breakbar and forces me to dismount, thus setting my elite skill on recharge") or something like that.

Just an idea. But making it part of the skill set system in some regard and give it some skill-based advantages could possibly work.

But as before, it isn’t necessary.

Tiger Ashante.1792:

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

I found another one:

All together now!

Omg ppl ur really sick, those poor horses.

Just beating the dead horse and tenderizing the meat before the dead topic gets slaughtered… enjoy

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Tiger Ashante.1792:

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

I found another one:

All together now!

Omg ppl ur really sick, those poor horses.

Just beating the dead horse and tenderizing the meat before the dead topic gets slaughtered… enjoy

Oh…I think its been tenderized and slaughtered long ago. Cooked….masticated…digested…passed…spread as fertilizer…sprouted as fresh grass…and fed to next generation of horses to beat. Its been that long.

the only time i would see Mounts a Viable choice is if We went Back to Cantha and fort through the Jade wastes where no Asura has ever walked.

only if the maps get bigger and the way points are more Spread apart aka the Desert can’t realy have the Elona desert on Multipul levels maybe ground and a first floor but apart from that in the games current state with the small areas on Multipul levels gliders+waypoints are enough.

I don’t log in to the forums for a few days, and THIS is what happens?

Endless Soul.5178:

I don’t log in to the forums for a few days, and THIS is what happens?

Scary, huh?

Kittening filter

Burn this thread

Paulytnz.7619:

Deedrick.4372:

Why would you ruin the challenges of gliding, like the longest glide ap in TD for a flying mount. Anet has set precedence for mounts. They are golems, brooms, carpets, the digging tool. If your ideal of a mount differs then find the game with mounts that match your definitions. If you want flying mounts, go back to wow.

Who are you talking to exactly? If you are talking to me I never played WoW past 30 mins of a free trial. I could tell right off the bat it was garbage and not for me.

Who said anything about ruining gliding or the challenges we currently have with them? Ask yourself this question: “when I bought HOT did I get gliding straight away or did I have to work for it?” The answer of course is you had to EARN it. Now in any new expansion we should expect new masteries to come and with that any rewards from those to be earned. So by the time you have your actual flying you should have easily over come any of the gliding parts of the game and their challenges. Going back to that content with actual flying could actually be just another way to totally explore that area and see anything you may have missed beforehand when your airborne abilities were limited. This is pretty much what gliding in Tryia does for us. Should we also not have that, are you asking for them to take that away also?

Also add to the fact that you will probably have to have HOT and beaten it to be able to even experience another expansion so again you should have already done that content. Well that is if they continue with their current trend – Having to buy LS2 and beat it before you can get HOT and do that.

What I said and what I could see them doing was in response to a video I watched of anet Devs/staff saying how excited they were for gliding to come to Tyria. And all the possibilities that they could do with that. Heck if anet staff were already thinking something like this and excited about it who are you or anyone else to say “no, go play wow” or whatever?

Relax, take a chill pill, it’s not like I made this thread and was actually suggesting it as a serious suggestion. Heck I even ended my posting with “wishful thinking” or “dreaming” or some such. I suppose you took my flying Harley and Tommygun as serious as well (but in all seriousness Anet, Tommygun – make it happen!).

Maybe you should take that ‘’chill pill’‘, and i agree with a person itself about flying in a GW2 would be a really bad, and someone mentioned also about not to use a instant travelling from any map corner to any waypoint you have in a your world map. Far more effective and faster then flying. Wich i will even wont believe a people would use a flying as they try to ’’defend’’ it. They would take a fast travel to want it waypoint wich is closest where they wanna and fly around in that ‘’small focused’’ area.

A World of Warcraft has many points wich are more better then in a Guild wars 2, and has its own flaws. I personally dont like that flying either in a WoW, but a game doesnt offer a fast travel unless you are a mage and only able to portal a certain places. Otherwise a long ’’travelling’’ time. Also there are places in a world of warcraft where you need to have a flying mount to get there. Unlike a GW2 doesnt offer that wich is ’’required’’ or you dont get excample in that specific dungeon/raid portal.
( i start it a wow in a classic and stopped permanently playing it after test it a little bit WoD and its raids etc…a best expansion was TBC. )
Back to a Guild wars and to a Topic about flying. It wont ‘’save anything’’ well not in my mind. I am still waiting ‘’ no roles’’ and excellent build diversity option wich is avaitable at any aspect in higher end gaming, and not ’’forced’’ to choose some in my mind ’’stupid’’ ELITE stuff if i wanna do anything worthy in my playing experience or only focus one certain build in a higher end gaming per aspect of a game. Its so stupid in a game. Even a games wich has these ‘’roles ’’ has more diversity then in here. What picture i have get so far. PVE so far has felt ‘’flat gaming experience’‘, but expected builds only wich are ’’suitable’’. Even a game offer a nice mechanisms still it sucks heavily when it comes of ‘’freedom of choice of a build’’ wich wanna focus. Fix this and i raise my hat and say i would recommend a game to my friends.

Other way a ANET has done fair nice job with its game. I like lore/story, open world events, professions like huntsman or weaponsmith has been ’’annoying’’ enough to get all possible recipies from a certain skill level range. Still Swtor offers a worse one..hehe.
Music and graphics. Ofcourse not to forget they have not forgot that a gaming area are in a ground/underwater and not have gave a people ability bypass a stuff like it go over a hands in a World of Warcraft even a content was totally build for a ground playing and really easy enough have flyingpoints to get so close where you want it.
Honestly nowadays i would not even recommend a World of warcraft to anyone anymore because of those little additions they have added wich have been not for my taste, and a person who is similar to mine i would definely say. You can try but i dont recommend. Plenty of better games out in there. Just my opinions.

This has become the official “Dead horse gif/image” thread. And it’s great! Because we probably need a deadhorse thread more than we need mounts. Because mounts, as it was said over and over, are not only useless, but largely unwanted because we’d have something else useless to pay for with gems.

Or maybe we did have mounts, but the above images show what happened to them. You missed your chance guys!

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only time i would see Mounts a Viable choice is if We went Back to Cantha and fort through the Jade wastes where no Asura has ever walked.

only if the maps get bigger and the way points are more Spread apart aka the Desert can’t realy have the Elona desert on Multipul levels maybe ground and a first floor but apart from that in the games current state with the small areas on Multipul levels gliders+waypoints are enough.

We do not longer need to use Junundu wurms, we can just use airships…

I think it would be fun to be able to work towards a mastery that lets you earn the ability to ride a dolyak and other creatures. It would be like unlocking the gilders where we’d get a basic animal to ride. Then if we wanted a different mount that opens it up so you guys can make fancy ones to sell in the gem store. When you master mounts it would give a 25% speed boost like if you had a speed signet on your character. That hylek looks like he is having fun riding that beetle in Tangled Depths.

Google “GW2 Mount forum” and you’ll understand the following….

oh, such an unique and new idea

No mounts in gw2! Go play WoW if you want mounts!

We do not want mounts in gw2, we never wanted mounts in gw2, mounts are not needed in gw2 because we have over 400 waypoints and it goes faster to waypoint then using a mount.

I understand all you people coming from other mount games that this is a thing, it was for me too when i joined here and i could not really grab how the waypoint system was working, but just drop your mount hopes, they wont happen, use waypoint and speedbuffs.

Bomber.3872:

No mounts in gw2! Go play WoW if you want mounts!

NO raids in gw2! Go play wow if you want raids! Oh wait…

Ragnarox.9601:

Bomber.3872:

No mounts in gw2! Go play WoW if you want mounts!

NO raids in gw2! Go play wow if you want raids! Oh wait…

I agree! Thats why raids are a total fail and need to be removed as soon as possible!

I would say that there will never be mounts in GW2, but Anet added raids, so any dumb unwanted addition is possible.

narwhalsbend.7059:

I would say that there will never be mounts in GW2, but Anet added raids, so any dumb unwanted addition is possible.

You’re right, looking at the present status of the game, mounts may even be a solution to retain some players.

Mishoo.5918:

narwhalsbend.7059:

I would say that there will never be mounts in GW2, but Anet added raids, so any dumb unwanted addition is possible.

You’re right, looking at the present status of the game, mounts may even be a solution to retain some players.

I am one of those Anet Fanboi’s that tend to defend the game (because it really is unique and amazing) but bringing mounts into the game would be a clear signal to me the game is in big trouble.

Aren’t gliders, the witch broom and the flying carpet mounts?

Wow, such constructive responses. I think the dolyak idea sounds like the quintessential GW2 mount, and I personally would love to see such an idea implemented. But as has been stated before, mounts coming into the game is an unlikely prospect, particularly with the effort invested into gliding. Impossible? Well, as has also been stated, no raids…

The time for constructive responses was 2394289340 “mounts plz!!!!!” threads ago. Someone was even kind enough to link to two of them, and both include many of the constructive reasons why mounts are not only useless, but a bit of a turn off to many players. Because no one thinks for a second that Anet will make these mounts available outside of gem store a’la flying broom and carpet aesthetics. At best you’ll be sitting pretty on top of a dolyak unable to use any real skills. And REAL mounts with mount specific skills are really not desirable enough to make a huge thing of it.