Guild Wars 2

Please don’t abandon SAB, it’s the absolute best event this game ever got. If you want us to not be distracted from living story then you could start by writing it a bit better instead of cancelling everything else. Here’s how “moved” I was when Belinda got rekt:

Random acts of kindness at #OCCUPYSAB2014 for a fellow gamer in despair of the SAB news.

Boneheart.3561:

Serbaayuu.3051:

So, I feel the need to state this because the community is going absolutely bonkers right now…

You ain’t kiddin’. I have a feeling the majority of people jumping on this “riot” are just going by word of mouth and didn’t actually read the interview.

I remember reading about a common complaint that the first season felt “disjointed”. Did Super Adventure Box contribute to that or did that issue not actually exist?

Super Adventure Box was not part of Season 1. It was released during Season 1. It was its own thing.

Ty so much Anet for showing up in great numbers at the NA rally today !
It was a pleasure to see that you shared our love of SAB may your soul ever be touched by Moto’s holy finger.

Just read the article, a lot of us want SAB back Anet, and the last portion of it promised to be a very interesting story, please bring it back between living world seasons at least! Can’t let my infinite coin go to waste :/
And I’m still waiting for red/purple Super skins!

protesters have now worked their way inside the box here in NA! When will Moto open the gates!

It is so beautiful inside that box.. our protesters over in EU cant get in there! D;

#PLZGETUSINSIDETHEBOX

ntx.2976:

Ty so much Anet for showing up in great numbers at the NA rally today !
It was a pleasure to see that you shared our love of SAB may your soul ever be touched by Moto’s holy finger.

Yeah it was really encouraging seeing some Anet guys and gals there!

SAB or riot :>

SAB is a self contained activity. It’s extremely well designed and widely beloved, considerably better than any of the other activities. They sold permanent access to it in the cash shop but disabled it temporarily, but later announced it was likely long term or permanent. Who ever made it was paid a lot of dev hours to make it, and they could still be making money selling infinite continues in the gem store. With all the angles to the SAB story, you have to wonder what kind of idiot is behind the decision to have it disabled at all ever, let alone long term. It’s extremely bad for everyone with the loss of revenue, upset people who want to experience it again or for the first time, and upset people who supported the zone with their cash only to be locked out for possibly years or forever.

How does a riot not break out? :P

#occupySAB2014 has hit Tarnished Coast!

Bring back Moto’s work!

lordkrall.7241:

Interestingly enough not many people did seem to miss SAB until the interview yesterday, and yet now it seems like it is the most missed thing ever released in the game.

People have been telling Anet to re-release a permanent SAB since Christmas 2013. The SAB threads have been popping up alot between then and now. Just because there wasn’t an SAB thread every single moment of every day doesn’t mean that people forgot about it. Yesterday’s protest proved that folks are waiting for it.

Considering Josh said he made it on his spare time, I’m not sure how much he was paid….

I’m also not sure that saying it won’t be released again during Living Story Season Two makes it long-term or permanently abandoned. I thought players were up in arms over how short Season Two was supposed to be, seeing it’s on ‘mid-season break’.

But, if people want to ‘riot’ about it…..not much can be said to people in that state of mind. /shrug

This video sums up my opinion, as always, well said WoodenPotatoes. This may calm some people down….

SAB is not a serious thing. Fractals on the other hand are.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Considering Josh said he made it on his spare time, I’m not sure how much he was paid….

I’m also not sure that saying it won’t be released again during Living Story Season Two makes it long-term or permanently abandoned. I thought players were up in arms over how short Season Two was supposed to be, seeing it’s on ‘mid-season break’.

But, if people want to ‘riot’ about it…..not much can be said to people in that state of mind. /shrug

The best part: The in-game riot was very entertaining to watch! I loved taking screenshots of the action too!

I was hoping for Anet to pop their tags in Rata Sum on the TC world but that didn’t happen.

The riot showed how much people love this game.

You can find all my screenshots here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/6#post4307970

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/6#post4308018

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/6#post4308056

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/6#post4308089

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Super-Adventure-Box-merged-1/page/6#post4308136

I was upset a little by SAB not returning, even mildly amused at first by people in Rata.

But now I’m sickened not only by the players, but by Anet for encouraging these people.

Through tumblr I have seen screen shots of people calling it a riot and comparing it to ferginson. And Anet are actually encouraging this by turning up and turning it into a game.

I literally broke down in tears and feel physically sick. I have friends there, right now. Barricaded in their house beause they are terrified about what’s going to happen to them and their family.

I cant even bring myself to go to rata sum because I don’t want to break down again.

As mods and gms shouldn’t you be stoppin this kinda of b.s. It’s not funny anymore, it’s not a game anymore. You are comparing the importance of a GAME to the value of real people. I’m just speechless….I can’t even bring myself to log in game because it makes me feel sick.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Considering Josh said he made it on his spare time, I’m not sure how much he was paid….

I’m also not sure that saying it won’t be released again during Living Story Season Two makes it long-term or permanently abandoned. I thought players were up in arms over how short Season Two was supposed to be, seeing it’s on ‘mid-season break’.

But, if people want to ‘riot’ about it…..not much can be said to people in that state of mind. /shrug

SAB 2 wasn’t completely done in his own time (however he did do a lot of overtime on it) and had “dismal” numbers according to their metrics, so why would any company want to work on something they think isn’t worth looking at anymore?
Look how long it takes for ANet to create a lot of their content takes based on their track record, and look at the ones they have stalled.
“Nothing’s off the table”.
It’s not hard to put the pieces together.

I think people should calm down a bit now, the interview never stated there removing SAB completely there just putting it on the back burner for the moment to focus on other things (Living Story etc).

It will return but just not yet, I would like to believe they can just flip the switch and turn SAB on with its current content for some people who have not had the opportunity to play it, its been gone for over a year almost but I guess we will have to wait and see.

Time to put in my two cents. Or 20 dollars, however you want to take it. Bring SAB back. There is no reason that the current living story should take all of the current development time, with the number of developers that Arenanet has for Gw2. I love the way living story is going now, but SAB has fans. If you are into making money on your game, you need to at least make the current levels permanent content and/or add the last 1-2 and THEN make it permanent content. Particularly with the neverending Continue Coin that most people, including I.. purchased.

Lazy development does not equal money or continuing patronage, and let’s face it.. other than WoW’s new expansion arriving soon there isn’t a game currently with as large of a loyal fanbase in the MMO market, and certainly not in the free to play niche Gw2 has. More effort please. This living story was too short for the break to come. Gw2 does not run on expansions, so living story should be virtually continuous with some exceptions such as holidays and as you can see the angry fans here.. SAB.

Bring back SAB, so many of us miss it. You guys at Arena Net may not find it worth your time working on a new world, but their is no reason to not let us play the levels that you already released.

I own an infinate coin, how about making it of use to us all again.

I have been to the EU protest, it was great fun, lots of nice people, very little rage and plenty of calm, polite discussion and hardly any trolls.

Everyone check out my SAB promotional RIOT video!
I really worked kitten it and it’s only 5min!

Enjoy!

Levistis.8356:

This video sums up my opinion, as always, well said WoodenPotatoes. This may calm some people down….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMGEGK7Sr4g

Calm people down?? He’s talking about why Anet isn’t working on new SAB levels while showing the already finished SAB levels that people are demanding to play. If anything he’s just refreshing people’s memories on why they are fighting to have them turned back on.

It would be nice to get the SAB back seeing as how there are hundreds of people doing nothing but petitioning for it in Rata Sum. There has never been a single person EVER petition for the LS, I would wager 99% of players would forgo any and all LS to get some decent permanent content.

But no, all we get is more LS content that we click as fast as we can to get through to get the mediocre rewards. Absolutely ZERO repeatability (other than for the achievements)

Yeah, let’s tone it down a notch, guys. I love SAB and I want to see it back too (Princess Miya still needs rescuing!), but there’s no need to turn it into a “riot” or threaten boycotts. The important thing is that we’ve made ANet aware that there’s still a lot of us who want to see it back, and that they shouldn’t discard SAB entirely just because W2’s reception was a flop compared to W1’s. (The right thing to do is to address the changes in direction that caused W2 to not be as popular and return SAB to be more like its roots; light-hearted, whimsical fun that you could complete when you had a spare 15 – 30 mins to fill.)

In the meantime, there’s no reason why Moto couldn’t open up SAB with the existing worlds for people to play through again in the meantime. Make the blue SAB skins available as drops and purchasable again with Baubles, and I guarantee you’ll still get a healthy amount of players in there farming for the skins.

So if this is true then all of us that brought the adventure box coin have wasted our money…. perhaps we should all put tickets in for the refund of the cost (both myself and my daughter brought gems with money to purchase theses items)

LaidGenie.3259:

So if this is true then all of us that brought the adventure box coin have wasted our money…. perhaps we should all put tickets in for the refund of the cost (both myself and my daughter brought gems with money to purchase theses items)

I’m going for the more positive route myself, i’m hanging on to that coin for dear life with the blind faith that i’ll be able to use it again!

Hello everyone! Alot of thanks to all of you who showed up to the Riot, we have surely made a great statement and have shown out support to the devs. We have raised the awareness and that hadnt happened if the combined forces of EU and NA hadnt helped us.

On the EU side i’d like to thank everyone for participating and joining me in Ratasum near the box, aswell as for the many great laughs and funtimes we’ve had!

-Regards, Riftguard Excell.

Rage.9723:

Peaceful? Many maps existed and the map that we were in had the most hardcore protest this game has ever seen. Too bad you got a care bear map. You do not know what you are missing. I do not not know what I am missing in your map, but if it is anything care bear like usual then I really don’t care.

The excitement comes and goes, it’s pretty chill right now. Earlier though…..

It was chill when I last logged on too, but I had fun earlier. All those nostalgic sound effects and music. The number of commander tags was also sort of hilarious.

Too much to ask for one red post in this thread?

Gerby.6219:

Too much to ask for one red post in this thread?

They probably don’t want to risk making things even worse. I mean trying to circle around the fact that they have no real response to give regarding this subject hardly helps anyone.

The interview GuildMag did was already bad enough, at no fault of GuildMag of course. There are actually two interviews done at around the same time that touch on SAB one of them was executed correctly by ANet in terms of the response given the other (GuildMag’s one) not so much. From PR PoV ANet really dropped the ball on that one. While knowing that their words would immediately be minced and analyzed by countless people, if you have nothing to say say that and be concise about it don’t say anything unnecessary.

The gist of it, they don’t want to make another statement from which only negative conclusions, or at the very least nothing positive, can be made out of.

Maybe that’s just me,but,has there ever been another player riot in-game for the removal of a feature?

No reply from the ArenaNet yet. Show must go on…

I just want to say that I loved the SAB and I would like it to return someday. Please don’t close that… box.

I do believe they have lost touch with the community. SAB is what we want!

SAB was the only reason your game was still on my computer.
Hint: It’s not anymore.

Why would you bring back a feature that a large population of your player base enjoyed? Oh wait nvm.

Xillllix.3485:

I have a friend who was also only waiting for SAB to come back. Today must have been a sad day for him learning it won’t happen any time soon.

What I miss about SAB is that you actually have fun with a party of friends, instead of doing it single-player-mode like the Living Story.

I have fun with a party of friends in the Living Story. What’s stopping you?

The irritating part about the interview is that the content all exists right now and someone has made the CONSCIOUS decision to deny us access to it, then they go and tell us that they won’t allow us access to it until some unspecified time in the not-near future.

Just turn it on and let us play Worlds 1-2 as we please!

And the party continues, with the SAB ninja!

Remember, this is a fun community event – please keep discussion respectful to players and devs alike no matter the opinion on the subject

(and yes that is Scarlet….)

:)

#occupySAB2014

Anet just listen us Bring Back SAB !!

This whole interview is a joke. They build a wall around themselves where they won’t and can’t say anything about the future of this game. Why is this company so reluctant towards information about their future content and releases? Their are a lot people working there, so I really wonder what the rest of their 300 people are doing

Gerby.6219:

Too much to ask for one red post in this thread?

You’ve got to be kidding….

The “riot” poses NO threat and letting it die is the best course of action. Posting here would just stir up a now smoldering fire. They have NOTHING to gain by saying anything official.

I watched the Woodenpotatoes video and it nicely sums up what is actually going on here. The idea that the sparse comments in that interview implied SAB would never come back is laughable….they just said it didn’t fit in with the current release flow.

I am adding this post I made on Reddit found on this link

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2dwyky/why_cant_super_adventure_box_be_permanent_content/

Now before we start. I want to stress out that the idea of making players more focus in their objective is complete bull. People role-play should Anet stop them from role playing. What about activities such as Evon Gnashblade’s survival game, karka toss, kreg ball and many more why aren’t they locked up somewhere nowhere to be seen for another billion years. If you are going to argue that you don’t earn anything significant out of it well guess what, so does Super Adventure Box you only get a few skins and a few achievements which some activities also provides and at worst you can always remove skins as a drop and force the players to actually grind for the skins by making it for themselves. So tell me a good reason why? the few lost players that will be playing Super Adventure Box. If so I challenge the statistics of how many players will be lost vs the actual number of people playing the game.

Also I would like to add that just because the world is happening and its current events are happening doesn’t mean you should hide other content that was made. Think of it this way if America goes on war with North Korea real time does that mean we can stop playing video games? the answer is obviously no. Removing a game within a game for a reason that just states it doesn’t match with living story is completely ignorant. There is very limited repetitive content that people are willing to do because it becomes extremely stale and boring after a while. It is the major reason why you keep losing fan base even after a good solid X amount of months.

That’s a way too literalistic reading. SAB W2 had bad metrics, for reasons that may or may not relate to how much people like SAB. SAB has been gone for over a year. Devs confirm that no one is working on SAB and has no plans to work on SAB until work on the other core game systems are improved, ie, never.

Based on that, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for players to assume that SAB is dead for all intents and purposes.

So they close every SAB post except for this one but still don’t talk to us? :S

Crise.9401:

Gerby.6219:

Too much to ask for one red post in this thread?

They probably don’t want to risk making things even worse. I mean trying to circle around the fact that they have no real response to give regarding this subject hardly helps anyone.

Acknowledgement would be a low-risk step in the right direction.

I believe that they’re currently working on how to word that. I’ll keep my eyes open. Would be very disappointing though if they tried to ignore this until it goes away quietly.

Smoothy.1085:

So they close every SAB post except for this one but still don’t talk to us? :S

They aren’t closed/they are all here—they have been merged.

BlueZone.4236:

“Nothing’s off the table”.

“Nothing’s off the table” is evasive PR fluff that does not mean anything. SAB has been removed from the game for a long time now. ANet has indicated it is not in active development, nor do they have plans to work on it in the foreseeable future. Is this what on the table looks like? If ANet is not willing to do it, SAB’s not going to program itself.

Poledra Val.1490:

the interview never stated there removing SAB completely there just putting it on the back burner for the moment to focus on other things (Living Story etc).

How much more removed can it be, before it’s “completely” removed? It’s not in the game. No one can play it. Even the SAB levels that were already finished, were deactivated. It does not take any development “focus” away from Living Story, to just let us access already finished content.

LaidGenie.3259:

So if this is true then all of us that brought the adventure box coin have wasted our money…. perhaps we should all put tickets in for the refund of the cost (both myself and my daughter brought gems with money to purchase theses items)

Please don’t be shy about requesting a refund, through the proper channels. You have every right to do so. I don’t know whether they will grant the refund, but at least it is communicating dissatisfaction to ArenaNet in a clear and positive manner. They sold you an item that has no function whatsoever, and can’t give us a commitment on when or if SAB will return. Unless ArenaNet has a plan for this, they should be issuing refunds on the coin without having to be asked.

Some people argue that giving people a refund on the coin is like unofficially saying that SAB will “never” return. I don’t understand that reasoning at all. ANet can bring back SAB whenever they want. They can put the Infinite Continue Coin back up for sale, as soon as they feel confident it will have a use again. Sure, there is the risk that players will be apprehensive about re-purchasing the coin a second time. That is not our fault.