Guild Wars 2

frans.8092:

Prophet.6257:

DiazKincade.2891:

Prophet.6257:

Agreed.

I’m not expecting dwarfs anytime soon (if ever) but it is well within ANets ability and general fantasy reason to have the dwarfs return as a playable race. Nothing is ever permanent in a fantasy world. Things may be unlikely and not what certain players/readers/viewers/etc want but that doesn’t disqualify them. In fact I would say it makes them a bigger surprise and adds more gripping lore.

No offence but what you guys are talking about is often considered bad story writing. When something is stated as being permanent in any genre of story writing and then the writer falls back on that its basically the same as a lie. It also as I stated normally comes about as a Deus ex Machina, God of the Machine. In other words it takes an act of god to revert something. When a story uses such a mechanic the story always seems to fall flat and ends in an anticlimactic way.

Permanence in a fantasy makes for a better story. And yes permanence is permanent in fantasy story’s. The ones that go against that have always felt anticlimactic and dull.

What are you talking about?

Surprising the audience, come backs, plot twist, etc. make stories exciting.

I suppose every retcon could be considered a plot twist. But cheap tricks don’t fool me into buying a cheap trick as an exciting story element. Bringing dwarves back doesn’t fall into the category exciting plot twist, but into the bad story writing category. Sorry, maybe I am to demanding, but that is just what it would be to me.

Maybe…just maybe they might let us play as stone dwarves? It would fall a bit niche with the whole idea that they’re supposed to be going extinct but honestly the population of Tyria seems to fluctuate uncontrollably and what they define as near-extinct might not be what we define as near-extinct. After all the work my Legendary Vanquisher went through, you’d think there wouldn’t be any wildlife left in Tyria.

hannah mee.7925:

frans.8092:

Prophet.6257:

DiazKincade.2891:

Prophet.6257:

Agreed.

I’m not expecting dwarfs anytime soon (if ever) but it is well within ANets ability and general fantasy reason to have the dwarfs return as a playable race. Nothing is ever permanent in a fantasy world. Things may be unlikely and not what certain players/readers/viewers/etc want but that doesn’t disqualify them. In fact I would say it makes them a bigger surprise and adds more gripping lore.

No offence but what you guys are talking about is often considered bad story writing. When something is stated as being permanent in any genre of story writing and then the writer falls back on that its basically the same as a lie. It also as I stated normally comes about as a Deus ex Machina, God of the Machine. In other words it takes an act of god to revert something. When a story uses such a mechanic the story always seems to fall flat and ends in an anticlimactic way.

Permanence in a fantasy makes for a better story. And yes permanence is permanent in fantasy story’s. The ones that go against that have always felt anticlimactic and dull.

What are you talking about?

Surprising the audience, come backs, plot twist, etc. make stories exciting.

I suppose every retcon could be considered a plot twist. But cheap tricks don’t fool me into buying a cheap trick as an exciting story element. Bringing dwarves back doesn’t fall into the category exciting plot twist, but into the bad story writing category. Sorry, maybe I am to demanding, but that is just what it would be to me.

Maybe…just maybe they might let us play as stone dwarves? It would fall a bit niche with the whole idea that they’re supposed to be going extinct but honestly the population of Tyria seems to fluctuate uncontrollably and what they define as near-extinct might not be what we define as near-extinct. After all the work my Legendary Vanquisher went through, you’d think there wouldn’t be any wildlife left in Tyria.

The whole concept of the Vanquish titles in GW1 was Anet’s (not so)veiled attempt at prolonging the game’s lifespan. It was not, and should not be considered a part of lore. The dwarves are near extinct because they can not make more, and they are losing a never ending battle against Primordus, who can create more minions at will. The battle the dwarves are in is so one sided its not even funny. That and the fact that ALL dwarves are almost overwhelmed with the constant “Destroy all Destroyers” mentality that was “given” to them by the ritual. “Inflicted” would be a more apt term but that’s just semantics. As for Ogden, who was a priest of the Great Dwarf, he has just extended that mentality to “Destroy all Elder Dragons” because he sees the writing on the wall. The dwarves are failing.

I don’t see how killing off another one of the ancient races actually adds anything to the game (addition by subtraction?) Unless they are trying to cut all ties to the past for in game characters and I concede that may be possible.

Jotun (idiots)
Mursaat (evil and hidden)
Forgotten (no where to be seen, maybe dead)
Seer (dead)
Dwarfs (sure lets kill of the last ties to Tyria’s past)

I think the argument can be made why they shouldn’t be playable for reasons some of the previous posters have stated to add a more serious tone to the story, but how much will it really add? Making a race that VERY few of the player base has actually encountered in GW2’s Tyria finally snuffed out? Sure people that have followed the lore from GW1 will recognize it but I would argue several GW1 players (well in my circles at least) wanted to play as the dwarfs in GW2 not see them killed off.

Also, GW2 does not use a consistent serious tone. You can argue they should but currently it’s more lighthearted with the occasional bit of seriousness sprinkled in. The art design alone makes the game come across and “playful” and “fun”.

Quaggans foo -.- id die a bit with happiness if they were added

Prophet.6257:

I don’t see how killing off another one of the ancient races actually adds anything to the game (addition by subtraction?) Unless they are trying to cut all ties to the past for in game characters and I concede that may be possible.

Jotun (idiots)
Mursaat (evil and hidden)
Forgotten (no where to be seen, maybe dead)
Seer (dead)
Dwarfs (sure lets kill of the last ties to Tyria’s past)

I think the argument can be made why they shouldn’t be playable for reasons some of the previous posters have stated to add a more serious tone to the story, but how much will it really add? Making a race that VERY few of the player base has actually encountered in GW2’s Tyria finally snuffed out? Sure people that have followed the lore from GW1 will recognize it but I would argue several GW1 players (well in my circles at least) wanted to play as the dwarfs in GW2 not see them killed off.

Also, GW2 does not use a consistent serious tone. You can argue they should but currently it’s more lighthearted with the occasional bit of seriousness sprinkled in. The art design alone makes the game come across and “playful” and “fun”.

You forgot Margonite. I have no clue what happened to them when Abaddon died… do they still exist, cause hell, concept art looks beautiful.

Also, can you imagine Margonite + Chronomancer (see picture 2).

Sirendor.1394:

Prophet.6257:

I don’t see how killing off another one of the ancient races actually adds anything to the game (addition by subtraction?) Unless they are trying to cut all ties to the past for in game characters and I concede that may be possible.

Jotun (idiots)
Mursaat (evil and hidden)
Forgotten (no where to be seen, maybe dead)
Seer (dead)
Dwarfs (sure lets kill of the last ties to Tyria’s past)

I think the argument can be made why they shouldn’t be playable for reasons some of the previous posters have stated to add a more serious tone to the story, but how much will it really add? Making a race that VERY few of the player base has actually encountered in GW2’s Tyria finally snuffed out? Sure people that have followed the lore from GW1 will recognize it but I would argue several GW1 players (well in my circles at least) wanted to play as the dwarfs in GW2 not see them killed off.

Also, GW2 does not use a consistent serious tone. You can argue they should but currently it’s more lighthearted with the occasional bit of seriousness sprinkled in. The art design alone makes the game come across and “playful” and “fun”.

You forgot Margonite. I have no clue what happened to them when Abaddon died… do they still exist, cause hell, concept art looks beautiful.

Also, can you imagine Margonite + Chronomancer (see picture 2).

O_O

These would be so awesome to play as. They just look so freakin’ cool.

Here’s what would be nice for a change, an amphibious race from another continent but living in the sea and in more modern settings than the primate kindergarten of the Quaggans.

The Largos would only be acceptable if their faces are actually masks, I would like them to have a normal humanoid or aquanoid face.

Sirendor.1394:

You forgot Margonite. I have no clue what happened to them when Abaddon died… do they still exist, cause hell, concept art looks beautiful.

Also, can you imagine Margonite + Chronomancer (see picture 2).

Margonite are most likely are gone/dead, if anything they could still be around in the Realm of Torment with Kormir but that is really unknown at this point.

As for the Chronomancer they could become part of GW2 but most likely will not happen.

Also in theory they could bring back the Dwarfs but it would have to take place after Primordus was killed. But Give there is no known number of Dwarfs alive they are most likely gone.

Kodans, I guess. They seem really nice, though I guess you can relate them a lot to the Norn, what with the whole bear obsession.

Other than that, Iunno. I like the myriad of races and whatnot, but I am kinda content playing as a human.

No bars, I want largos and krait.

But of those likely to have a chance of becoming playable, aside from totally new races, there is only largos, kodan, and tengu to really choose from. Maybe Joko’s undead. Maybe.

Silalus.8760:

Vavume.8065:

Risen, I want an undead thief to add to my collection of thieves.

Kinda surprised there’s only one vote for this so far.

Why wouldn’t the death of Zhaitan perhaps leave a few of the undead with free will? Seems reasonable to me, and while it’s been done before the undead are usually mighty, mighty popular amongst players, creative or not…

Personally, though, I’d pay for a Skritt.

As seen in Arab explorable, Zhaitan’s defeat hasn’t altered the risen’s personality at all.

If people want undead, the only chance they have is Joko’s nation of living and undead in Elona.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

No bars, I want largos and krait.

But of those likely to have a chance of becoming playable, aside from totally new races, there is only largos, kodan, and tengu to really choose from. Maybe Joko’s undead. Maybe.

Silalus.8760:

Vavume.8065:

Risen, I want an undead thief to add to my collection of thieves.

Kinda surprised there’s only one vote for this so far.

Why wouldn’t the death of Zhaitan perhaps leave a few of the undead with free will? Seems reasonable to me, and while it’s been done before the undead are usually mighty, mighty popular amongst players, creative or not…

Personally, though, I’d pay for a Skritt.

As seen in Arab explorable, Zhaitan’s defeat hasn’t altered the risen’s personality at all.

If people want undead, the only chance they have is Joko’s nation of living and undead in Elona.

That’s a great point. I wonder what Joko is up to these days. I always liked that character.

Undead could work in that instance but I hope it has some sort of different spin on it than the Risen. I don’t really have a way in mind but im sure Anet could figure osmething cool out.

At the rate things are going Joko will be part of living story 12 and Cantha 18.
Based on the fact that living story 2 might have us fighting the 2 second dragon…might.

Joko’s undead could work, but the biggest question what races would it be of, Humans and Charr, maybe Norn, and Asura Too. Sylvari most likely will not work, but it is always possible that given that it seams to be a different type of magic it may work on them.

Also we know that Joko most likely it busy keeping his troops in order to keep Kralkatorrik minions at bay, and of course the Risen from Orr, but they most likely are all dead now given that Zhaitan is dead.

Edit: Hybarf Tics….It looks that way, but i will not hold my breath that it will happen till i see it and yes i know you said might.

frans.8092:

Conncept.7638:

Players said similar things about Charr, Norn, and Asura from GW1.

They are still not playable races in GW1.

That was the point… I didn’t specifically state they argued against their addition to GW1, GW1 ran for years after GW2s initial announcement and there was plenty of speculation and argument about what could and could not be added to GW2 based on GW1.

I like the human risen race. I would love to make an evil mage with that look. Pure death.

Oh, almost forgot. The Icebrood race looks cool. Would really enjoy a warrior or guardian Icebrood character.

GuildWarsPlayer.5608:

I like the human risen race. I would love to make an evil mage with that look. Pure death.

Oh, almost forgot. The Icebrood race looks cool. Would really enjoy a warrior or guardian Icebrood character.

Icebrood are evil. Risen are evil. Palawa Joko’s group are not “risen”, they are just a mix of undead and living subjects. If you are wanting to play as an undead race, hold out hope Palawa Joko isn’t a complete evil overload (like cantha’s emperor is). As for the undead in Palawa Joko’s group….I don’t think norn made it that far south, or charr, or asura. But a large period of time has passed so who knows. That said most of Palawa Joko’s undead have been dead for far longer than even orr’s if memory serves. (They are all mummy like undead if I recall. Palawa Joko was stopped long before orr was sunk. Though I could be getting my lore mixed up. I never really looked that heavily into Palawa Joko.)

Kodan, for sure.

I still want

1.) Hylek
2.) Tengu
3.) Kodan
4.) Skritt
5.) Dwarves

In that order preferably, but I’ll take what I can get at this point. I’m pretty sure if we are getting new races ever that Tengu would be first. From what I remember a lot of the assets for them were pretty much built… well sort of. Kodan seem to be an obvious second on ANets list because their close ties in lore and the events with the Norn and Jormag. The rest could be just a pipe dream to be completely honest.

Hylek would be a pain in the butt to redo all the armor on. Dwarfs have a TON of lore difficulty to deal with. Skritt seem pretty easy to rework. They could be a solid 3rd or 4th. Largos are a nice “dark elf” addition to the game. People in general seem to be all for them. The Centaurs would have a lot to overcome. I think ANet commented on how difficult it would be to actually have them as playable (Still they would be kind of neat). As far as adding undead goes I don’t think we have any comments from ANet one way or the other.

Personally I would like AS MANY RACES AS POSSIBLE. I love diversity in MMOs and am a big fan of creative freedom fro the player. More races, More classes, more weapons, and more zones. I am also well aware how much that is asking and it’s a LOT.

Kodan/Tengu. Not sure which race I like more.

Zanshin.5379:

Kodan, for sure.

While I do love the lore behind the kodan, and that it is a brand new race in terms of lore (wasn’t in gw1) they would need to overhaul all the current codan as they are all pretty much clones. Also I would much rather see more diversification between males and females (one reason why I don’t care for charr and asura. they feel the same until they speak.) All that said these also kinda look more like perma bearform norns. The body tattoos and general “northern influence” is what does it I think.

Those pics are pretty nice though and do show possibilities in facial options. (If they are considered I just hope they don’t go simple again like with charr/asura. I like seeing different model designs based on the gender. It makes the game feel more realistic…not counting all the skimpy fan service armors. While they are nice I don’t find them very appealing to run around in all the time. Personal preference I guess.)

Tengu or Largo are the races i’d like :]

Centaur! i love to watch a cavalry legion in WvW. RIDE FOR RUIN!!!

Chronomancer was a profession that was to be introduced in GW: Utopia. When Utopia got scrapped, so did the Chronomancer.

I do believe ArenaNet has said that it wouldn’t be in GW2. Though I don’t know where you can find their exact post on it. Not that it matters – This is ArenaNet and they do what they want, even if it means going back on their word.

New continent with elves and dwarves as an expansion. Id pay 60 more buxx for that.

SKRITT
Shineyyyyyzzzz

i want to play a tree. or a bush.

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

DiazKincade.2891:

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

I don’t even think I’ve seen risen centaur, for that matter.

I agree that Tengu at this point is the most likely candidate for the next playable race, but I’m still hoping (even if it’s not very likely) that centaurs will eventually make their way into the playable category. Ulgoth is dead, and heck, if charr could ally with humans…

Let’s see …

Largos
Centaurs
Skritt
Tengu
Quaggans ?

But I’ll play pretty much anything really if it’s nicely done.

AsaPrime.2179:

Centaur! i love to watch a cavalry legion in WvW. RIDE FOR RUIN!!!

But then the enemy will outrun you.

DiazKincade.2891:

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

Remember the Sylvari don’t show up as the Risen either….

Sylvari die before they are corrupted.

Dusty Moon.4382:

DiazKincade.2891:

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

Remember the Sylvari don’t show up as the Risen either….

Yes but they are arguably also considered “dragon Minions” already. (The signs are heavily pointing in favor of but the evidence is still not concrete imo) Can’t corrupt something already corrupt. They just lack (mostly) the dragon’s influence due to Ventari’s tablet.

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

I want to point out something about the Largos, they do not make much contact with Land people, But they do make contact with water people since they are water. Also you gotta remember that just because they do not make contact with our part of the world doesn’t mean there isn’t a part of the world that they are in contact with much more. For all we know they are most likely looking for ways to fight the bubblez because he could be a current threat to them. There lore never says that they would never ask for help if it is needed. They can be playable because in theory we do not know the amount of population of there race and that leaves it wide open. You can also factor in the fact that there is not much know about them.

I still support that the Tengu will be the first new playable race and the Largos will most likely come in second.

Tengu are not rises because they have the wall and most likely kill there own people before they can become that, its also possible they have a ancient item that stops that, but do remember they are dealing with Primordus minions.

As for the sylvari, most likely are dragon minions and there are plenty of theory’s out there and such.

Here is a thought, Why have we not seen any undead dwarfs, or any of Primordus minions made of dwarfs given they are now rock….

DiazKincade.2891:

Dusty Moon.4382:

DiazKincade.2891:

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

Remember the Sylvari don’t show up as the Risen either….

Yes but they are arguably also considered “dragon Minions” already. (The signs are heavily pointing in favor of but the evidence is still not concrete imo) Can’t corrupt something already corrupt. They just lack (mostly) the dragon’s influence due to Ventari’s tablet.

They are not Dragon Minion’s – if they were there wouldn’t be 2 Factions – one Dark (Nightmare Court) and one not. Until there is absolute proof of that – I will doubt that.

I think because they have Ventari’s Tablet teaching infused in them, in the Dream, I think this may make them mostly incorruptible.

Dusty Moon.4382:

DiazKincade.2891:

Dusty Moon.4382:

DiazKincade.2891:

Dondarrion.2748:

Not meant as trolling, but Largos will never be playable. They’re an elusive race who shie away from too much contact with other people and operate mostly on their own as hunters of some sort of prey. Anet cannot suddenly retcon their whole background and have hundreds of thousands Largos out and about in the open world…

Tengu are the obvious candidate of next playable race. Nowhere found as mobs, we know they have a starter area/hub in Dominion of Winds and it just makes sense.

Interesting note. Tengu don’t even show up as risen. I don’t think they have been corrupted anywhere. The only major race with a major city that hasn’t been corrupted. Largos on the other hand always seem to pop up as risen priestesses of Dwayna. Just thought I’d point that out.

Really makes you wonder….do they cremate their dead?

Remember the Sylvari don’t show up as the Risen either….

Yes but they are arguably also considered “dragon Minions” already. (The signs are heavily pointing in favor of but the evidence is still not concrete imo) Can’t corrupt something already corrupt. They just lack (mostly) the dragon’s influence due to Ventari’s tablet.

They are not Dragon Minion’s – if they were there wouldn’t be 2 Factions – one Dark (Nightmare Court) and one not. Until there is absolute proof of that – I will doubt that.

I think because they have Ventari’s Tablet teaching infused in them, in the Dream, I think this may make them mostly incorruptible.

Being a dragon minion doesn’t mean they are directly controlled by a dragon. Look at Glint and the little chicken in arah explorable p3 (Twitchy). They never lost their “Dragon minion” form but they lost the influence of the dragon. Are they still corrupted? Yes. Just not driven to kill. And technically there are 3 “factions” of sylvari. 2 from the pale tree and 1 from “another tree”. The nightmare court could easily be said to be influenced by the nightmare within the dream. That nightmare, as any sylvari player knows, was a giant plant dragon. Mordremoth is the jungle dragon, and for all intents and purposes has been asleep (as far as the story tells us) until potentially Scarlet’s intervention. Sleeping dragons don’t really have that much influence (some, just not go kill everything like Zhaitan, Jormag, and Kralk’s minions.)

The main argument stating that they might be dragon minions comes from the wiki on the pale tree itself: “The seed which sprouted the Pale Tree was found in a cave containing many others like it, guarded by powerful plant creatures.” Ventari’s tablet just gave them a philosophy for the pale tree sylvari to follow. The nightmare court fight against that philosophy.

Battousai Kenji.9053:

~~Tengu are not rises because they have the wall and most likely kill there own people before they can become that, its also possible they have a ancient item that stops that, but do remember they are dealing with Primordus minions.

As for the sylvari, most likely are dragon minions and there are plenty of theory’s out there and such.

Here is a thought, Why have we not seen any undead dwarfs, or any of Primordus minions made of dwarfs given they are now rock….

The Tengu are not actually openly attacking Primordus minions. They are more like that old cranky guy on the block screaming “Get off my lawn!” at anything remotely hostile. (Which was clearly evident during the invasion of LA. They shot at everyone without a care in the world.) It is also possible that both the Tengu and the Dwarves (pre-stoning) had cremation traditions. That or dwarves turn to stone when they die (Returning to the earth as dwarves are often reported of doing in numerous mythos). There is also the posibility that when the humans arrived in tyria the dwarves left the area around Orr (if they were ever there in the first place), preferring the mountainous, colder climate in the shiverpeaks. (Dwarves were only found in the shiverpeaks in any large numbers.) As for no dwarven destroyers, take a look at gw1 destroyers and you will see a major change in appearances. The only one that stayed somewhat the same was the Troll destroyers. they basically just lost their tails. (A good example of a sleeping dragon vs a non-sleeping dragon perhaps?)

From the wiki “They (destroyers) are forged from the molten heart of their master—Primordus”. Primordus is the only known dragon that doesn’t corrupt creatures. He sculpts them. Why has he never made a copy of a dwarf? Because they don’t, on their own, have very good combat traits when compared to other creatures. They are short, and sturdy sure, but their reach is limited, and speed is slow. Compared to a crab destroyer they are also less stable on their feet (You can’t beat multiple legs with just 2) and crabs also have inbuilt weapons with their claws. Trolls are faster and have a much greater reach, and in addition to those harpies can fly. Its not like Primordus can make perfect copies to try and infiltrate the dwarven line, so there is no need for him to make dwarven destroyers.

It is also possible that the “blessing” of the Great Dwarf protects them from such things, but given the above mentioned tactical notes I doubt this is the cause.

DiazKincade.2891:

The Tengu are not actually openly attacking Primordus minions. They are more like that old cranky guy on the block screaming “Get off my lawn!” at anything remotely hostile. (Which was clearly evident during the invasion of LA. They shot at everyone without a care in the world.) It is also possible that both the Tengu and the Dwarves (pre-stoning) had cremation traditions. That or dwarves turn to stone when they die (Returning to the earth as dwarves are often reported of doing in numerous mythos). There is also the posibility that when the humans arrived in tyria the dwarves left the area around Orr (if they were ever there in the first place), preferring the mountainous, colder climate in the shiverpeaks. (Dwarves were only found in the shiverpeaks in any large numbers.) As for no dwarven destroyers, take a look at gw1 destroyers and you will see a major change in appearances. The only one that stayed somewhat the same was the Troll destroyers. they basically just lost their tails. (A good example of a sleeping dragon vs a non-sleeping dragon perhaps?)

From the wiki “They (destroyers) are forged from the molten heart of their master—Primordus”. Primordus is the only known dragon that doesn’t corrupt creatures. He sculpts them. Why has he never made a copy of a dwarf? Because they don’t, on their own, have very good combat traits when compared to other creatures. They are short, and sturdy sure, but their reach is limited, and speed is slow. Compared to a crab destroyer they are also less stable on their feet (You can’t beat multiple legs with just 2) and crabs also have inbuilt weapons with their claws. Trolls are faster and have a much greater reach, and in addition to those harpies can fly. Its not like Primordus can make perfect copies to try and infiltrate the dwarven line, so there is no need for him to make dwarven destroyers.

It is also possible that the “blessing” of the Great Dwarf protects them from such things, but given the above mentioned tactical notes I doubt this is the cause.

Inside there wall they are being attack by Primordus minions as we know from the Tengu them selfs. cremation traditions is possible with both races. As for dwarfs most of you say is true, i just saying its possible, but i will say its most likely not happening. Wiki does point out the truth.

Battousai Kenji.9053:

DiazKincade.2891:

The Tengu are not actually openly attacking Primordus minions. They are more like that old cranky guy on the block screaming “Get off my lawn!” at anything remotely hostile. (Which was clearly evident during the invasion of LA. They shot at everyone without a care in the world.) It is also possible that both the Tengu and the Dwarves (pre-stoning) had cremation traditions. That or dwarves turn to stone when they die (Returning to the earth as dwarves are often reported of doing in numerous mythos). There is also the posibility that when the humans arrived in tyria the dwarves left the area around Orr (if they were ever there in the first place), preferring the mountainous, colder climate in the shiverpeaks. (Dwarves were only found in the shiverpeaks in any large numbers.) As for no dwarven destroyers, take a look at gw1 destroyers and you will see a major change in appearances. The only one that stayed somewhat the same was the Troll destroyers. they basically just lost their tails. (A good example of a sleeping dragon vs a non-sleeping dragon perhaps?)

From the wiki “They (destroyers) are forged from the molten heart of their master—Primordus”. Primordus is the only known dragon that doesn’t corrupt creatures. He sculpts them. Why has he never made a copy of a dwarf? Because they don’t, on their own, have very good combat traits when compared to other creatures. They are short, and sturdy sure, but their reach is limited, and speed is slow. Compared to a crab destroyer they are also less stable on their feet (You can’t beat multiple legs with just 2) and crabs also have inbuilt weapons with their claws. Trolls are faster and have a much greater reach, and in addition to those harpies can fly. Its not like Primordus can make perfect copies to try and infiltrate the dwarven line, so there is no need for him to make dwarven destroyers.

It is also possible that the “blessing” of the Great Dwarf protects them from such things, but given the above mentioned tactical notes I doubt this is the cause.

Inside there wall they are being attack by Primordus minions as we know from the Tengu them selfs. cremation traditions is possible with both races. As for dwarfs most of you say is true, i just saying its possible, but i will say its most likely not happening. Wiki does point out the truth.

They are being attacked by primordus minions but they are not actively trying to destroy him. They are just defending their land. I do find it interesting that on the wiki “Dominion of Winds” is clearly defined and is actually counted as a “Major City” along side DR, Rata Sum, LA and the others. I really hope they do add tengu at some time later on down the road but I also hope they add a new class along with them (a heavy preferably) cus I already have an 80 of every class lol.

Margonite

I know they only were used in GW: Nightfall but they’re are such an interesting race and a campaign based on them would be awesome.

What about a new race we have not seen before or yet. I would like a draconic race of some sort. Perhaps born from the dragons somehow. I not sure how to work it into the story but maybe there’s a dragon we don’t know of or maybe some relation to glint. I dunno, I would just like to see a race like this

mnwolfboy.9348:

What about a new race we have not seen before or yet. I would like a draconic race of some sort. Perhaps born from the dragons somehow. I not sure how to work it into the story but maybe there’s a dragon we don’t know of or maybe some relation to glint. I dunno, I would just like to see a race like this

There are only 6 dragons, Zhaitan (Risen), Jormag (Icebrood), Kralkatorik (Branded), Primordus (Destroyers), Mordremoth, and the deep sea dragon fondly referred to as “Bubbles”. As far as we know they don’t have any draconic races. As for Glint, she was freed from Kralkatorik’s influence by the forgotten a long time before even GW1. At this stage in the game it would be rather difficult for them to just “Add a new random race” to the list we already have. Also the only dragon we know of that creates things “from themselves” is Primordus. The others corrupt things through various means. Mordy and Bubbles are still unconfirmed as to what or how they corrupt things, but the dragons all have been painted as “black”. In other words, Enemies. If they did add a draconic race it would not be tied to them at all, but even then I highly doubt they will even add a lizard sentient race.

As for the potential for things being in the other parts of the world, Cantha has only humans (Thanks to the xenophobic emperor), and Elona is made up of Humans and Undead (not related to the risen). There has been no other mention of any other races that are “sentient” in either of those regions. Going on the rule of numbers, If the Largos are “scarecly seen” and the dwarves are “near extinct” an unknown and never before mentioned race has even less of a chance of being playable. Nice idea but it will never happen. Sorry to pop the bubble.

Back in January, I posted another wish for new race… if we ever go to Cantha, I’d love to see them become playable seeing as they’re humanoid and could make a nice addition if Anet venture a little outside the comfort zone and revive the Wardens (GW1 wiki).

250 years have passed; Shiro is “gone” so maybe they can see past their somewhat limited role as Protectors of the Echovald Forest and are no longer zealous/mad about their intent to take it all out on humans but maybe for a plot in Cantha they can have Echovald as their starting zones and from there move out into the world.

They would look quite unique in character creation and are a humanoid (formerly human) race and maybe prove an interesting alternative to Sylvari as another “forest people” without Anet having to introduce the stereotypical elves/dwarves.

I’ll also add the other thing I wrote back then concerning all those requests for typical elves and dwarves to become part of Tyria;

In my opinion for the GW universe; anyone asking for elves/dwarves; WoW → that way or LotRo <- that way… embrace the fact that dwarves are extinct and elves are non-existant.

Dondarrion.2748:

Back in January, I posted another wish for new race… if we ever go to Cantha, I’d love to see them become playable seeing as they’re humanoid and could make a nice addition if Anet venture a little outside the comfort zone and revive the Wardens (GW1 wiki).

250 years have passed; Shiro is “gone” so maybe they can see past their somewhat limited role as Protectors of the Echovald Forest and are no longer zealous/mad about their intent to take it all out on humans but maybe for a plot in Cantha they can have Echovald as their starting zones and from there move out into the world.

They would look quite unique in character creation and are a humanoid (formerly human) race and maybe prove an interesting alternative to Sylvari as another “forest people” without Anet having to introduce the stereotypical elves/dwarves.

I’ll also add the other thing I wrote back then concerning all those requests for typical elves and dwarves to become part of Tyria;

In my opinion for the GW universe; anyone asking for elves/dwarves; WoW -> that way or LotRo <- that way… embrace the fact that dwarves are extinct and elves are non-existant.

We will not be able to go back to Cantha until ALL the Elder Dragons are gone. The Emperor closed off Cantha to the rest of the world when Orr was resurrected.

The Wardens were evil and as such, we would not be playing them.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Dondarrion.2748:

Back in January, I posted another wish for new race… if we ever go to Cantha, I’d love to see them become playable seeing as they’re humanoid and could make a nice addition if Anet venture a little outside the comfort zone and revive the Wardens (GW1 wiki).

250 years have passed; Shiro is “gone” so maybe they can see past their somewhat limited role as Protectors of the Echovald Forest and are no longer zealous/mad about their intent to take it all out on humans but maybe for a plot in Cantha they can have Echovald as their starting zones and from there move out into the world.

They would look quite unique in character creation and are a humanoid (formerly human) race and maybe prove an interesting alternative to Sylvari as another “forest people” without Anet having to introduce the stereotypical elves/dwarves.

I’ll also add the other thing I wrote back then concerning all those requests for typical elves and dwarves to become part of Tyria;

In my opinion for the GW universe; anyone asking for elves/dwarves; WoW -> that way or LotRo <- that way… embrace the fact that dwarves are extinct and elves are non-existant.

We will not be able to go back to Cantha until ALL the Elder Dragons are gone. The Emperor closed off Cantha to the rest of the world when Orr was resurrected.

The Wardens were evil and as such, we would not be playing them.

The Canthan emperor is also horribly xenophobic. Chances are the wardens and any other sentient, non human race was wiped out or fled Cantha (Like the tengu).

Just to be clear, from the wiki :“He (Emperor Usoku) raised the Canthan military, spending millions in gold to arm his troops, and then swept the countryside. He defeated the Luxons and the Kurzick, incorporating these disparate people back into his nation.~~Usoku unified Cantha behind a strong national identity and began to purge the lands of rebels, the sick, and any non-humans such as the tengu; it wasn’t long before his embassies started to follow isolationist policies. His regime was ironclad, tyrannical, and fierce.”

He basically dissolved the Luxons and Kurzicks back into the canthan society as well, because they were still fighting each other and the emperor didn’t want that. So it is highly improbable to expect any new races to come out of Cantha, playable or otherwise. (Though tengu may wish to try and get their homeland back eventually, atm they seem quite happy behind their apparently impenetrable walls…which didn’t go deep enough it would seem to stop destroyers.)

Yes, and history shows that forcing disparate cultures into one big nation/empire stays just like that forever…? No Emperor can successfully and forever dissolve separate cultures that have centuries of history to their name and not expect uprising. Tyrannies will be overthrown, either due to internal unrest or like you say, Tengu could invade to regain their homeland.

My assumptions (if we ever go back to Cantha) are the Empire will fall due to cultural differences and strife and we’ll see Luxons and Kurzicks splitting out as discontented factions again, etc.

I’m not reading 4 pages worth of posts, but I’ll throw my two cents in for the original question. What races would I want to play most? Well, there are three. Those would be Largos, Tengu, and Kodan. Tengu I’ve wanted since GW1, especially since there was one in Factions that you could hire. While Largos and Kodan are new, each seems to have a rich history and a complex social system that I’d dearly love to explore.

Relshdan.6854:

Centaur……has that ever been possible in an MMO?
Aesthetically great -looking…….designing them during character creation would be a blast.

….and for those clamoring for mounts, you could pretend.

Shadowbane had centaurs and minotaurs and all kinds of weird crap. Such an innovative game, I still kind of miss it.

Largos. They would have great customization with their wings/fins Not interested in non-humanoid races.