Guild Wars 2

Hello John, is it intended that people have to buy the base game a second time or just a bug? (I hope it’s a bug)

Eight Samurai.6840:

So if an existing player buys the ‘core game’ again then shouldn’t we get 5 character slots for buying it again?

You do.

If you don’t link to your existing account.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

Good one, but now’s really not the time I think.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

I like how there is no word why we need to buy the core game again in this post.

We really need some clarification on whats going on here.

Honestly the price isn’t the problem. It was to be expected. I just don’t want another account!

Harrier.9380:

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

Good one, but now’s really not the time I think.

agree….company you work for may or may not be kittening over existing players.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

Good to see you guys are reading the threads. Will there be any comments on the issue soon?

Ashen.2907:

Eight Samurai.6840:

So if an existing player buys the ‘core game’ again then shouldn’t we get 5 character slots for buying it again?

You do.

If you don’t link to your existing account.

And if we don’t want to have 5 new character slots, but just the expansion? There’s no option for this?

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

Do we get to purchase 1x and apply the “expansion” to all our accounts?

Or are we forced to buy the game again with expansion for every single account we own?

Figured for $50 they would at the very least let us have a character slot. Factions and Nightfall at least had the courtesy to give us one for each new profession that they added.

I’m sure the response will be …no response …but if there is a response, it will be along the lines of “you are paying for the expansion and getting the core game for free”.

Marketing 101.

John i dont think it is in your best interest to jest peoples at this particular point in time.

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

this is the kind of people that really makes me angry, blizzard has been robbing people for years…..

yet, you don’t wanna pay for a game that is b2p with NO sub !!!

Man, I hope the door hits you on your way out, really hard.

Drakonath.7096:

Why is the core game included in the HoT Xpac? That means everyone who’s been playing since launch and helped support the game from the start is paying extra when compared to someone who just preordered HoT right now. This makes no sense ?

Making the people who believed in this game from the start pay more is a slap in the face honestly

There needs to be a different offer for players who already have an account. Or else we should be able to purchase each tier of the Xpac Preorder minus the cost of the core game.

Can’t believe they pulled something like this

Or, it could be that the expansion itself is $50, but in an attempt to attract new players the core game comes ‘free’ to them if they bought the expansion at the same price as the rest of us.

It’s a common marketing and economic tactic that works wonders, not a single quality MMO hasn’t done something like this before.

I See No Tomorrow.7302:

I’m pretty sure GW: Eye of the North was a lot cheaper than $50. HoT being this price if you already own the base game is just silly.

EotN was $34.99, which was likely chosen due to its smaller size. I figured they would do the same with HoT. Whether HoT actually offers the amount of content you would traditionally expect out of a full expansion is another question. Either ArenaNet’s trying to pull something, or HoT has a lot, and I mean a lot more content than they’ve hinted at. Guild halls for example take up an entire zone and even features dueling, though unfortunately, all that content is locked behind guilds.

upsdn.5426:

Carbon Footprint.3421:

This isn’t for current players, only new players. They only care about new money not old money.

Then why is it in the gem store?

For the rich/desperate suckers who want to waste the money just to be in the beta.

CrimsonDX.4821:

People forget that we pay no sub fee and receive whole expansions worth of content for free on a regular basis.

Except the game is crippled and may as well be a trial edition without upgrades such as character slots, inventory bag slots, storage slots, etc… from the gem store.

Apolo.5942:

John i dont think it is in your best interest to jest peoples at this particular point in time.

John may want his posts go through PR before they are posted.

so cool anet, you are selling an expansion that gives core game and new content for 50 bucks. How bout this: I already own the core game, so I’ll buy JUST the expansion stuff for 30.

Savvy?

Disappointing. I never expected Anet to be this greedy. I can’t believe they aren’t including a free character slot for the Revenant.

$50 is a perfectly reasonable price given what we have already received (massive amounts of free content) and what we will be receiving (massive amounts of more free content going forward)

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

You serious?

Everyone is flipping out over your product, and you make jokes?

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

I see what you did there.

latinkuro.7304:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

this is the kind of people that really makes me angry, blizzard has been robbing people for years…..

yet, you don’t wanna pay for a game that is b2p with NO sub !!!

Man, I hope the door hits you on your way out, really hard.

I’m just letting them know what I feel is reasonable as a customer. It’s called having a spine.

BikerBeagle.3915:

I’m sure the response will be …no response …but if there is a response, it will be along the lines of “you are paying for the expansion and getting the core game for free”.

Marketing 101.

I think we were all thinking the same thing tbh… it’s kinda sad and pathetic what they are doing. Not only is there no new content at all in the past 3-4 months of this game since LS season 2, but now they are scamming existing players. They are going to lose A LOT of veteran players over this.

Honestly, if you’re hardcore enough to buy the expansion, are you really having Gold issues to buy an additional character slot? Because there will be a massive amount of players cashing in on the $4000 gems, gem prices will go down, and 800 gems will be significantly cheaper.

John Smith is technically fixing gems, here.

CrimsonDX.4821:

People forget that we pay no sub fee and receive whole expansions worth of content for free on a regular basis.

What if I wasn’t will to pay for that content? They can’t give it to me claiming it is free and then charge me for it later.

Before you pay $50-$100 for HoT at the in-game Gem Store, I implore you all to take a moment of silence and remember.

Remember Sam.

And, for the love of The Priory and all that is wise, remember Krewe Leader Dobbs.

Hold hope. Someday.

CrimsonDX.4821:

Taglor Anwamane.9468:

This is nothing short of an insult to every single one of those who have been loyally playing for so long. They’re giving new players the expansion practically for free in comparison!
And it’s not as if they’re offering a full game’s worth of content, either.

Get off your high horse.

Given the amount of free content they have given us since launch, this is nothing. Certainly far less than what we would have paid in total subscription costs since launch

+1.

While the execution is perhaps clunky, the value of the price is something we the customer cannot know until we play. It is entirely possible the new campaign against Morde will be as expansive and lengthy as the one against zhaitan — whether in entirely new maps or revisiting older ones with new instanced story areas.

It is possible that the content of the expansion is fully worth the 50$ price tag — which lets be honest, is pretty kitten common for an expansion of a AAA MMO — so please can we shelf the outrage for a bit? Until we KNOW it’s not worth it?

Finally: no one is forcing you to pre-order. If the price is outrageous to you, or you cannot stomach that they tacked on the core game so that new players dont’ have to shell out $110 to get into the game, then do not pre-order the xpac. Wait for launch. Wait to see if they lower the price, or offer a discounted “Account Upgrade” version in the gemstore. Or — and just hear me out on this one: wait until more information about the expansion is available and make an informed decision. Boom.

I like how anet isnt responding to ANY of the community outrage here, and on reddit, and in game. No one is happy right now. I don’t know, I’ve sunk so much into this game but this is insane.

The core game is included to get new people in. It’s not a kick in the face if you already have the core game. It’s a BONUS to friends, family, acquaintances you want to bring into the game.

There’s no sub, 50$ is fair for a AAA expansion with as much as HoT is giving us. If you want a better deal, buy the Ultimate edition for 50$ more that comes with some free stuff, a character slot, and… 50$ worth of gems.

John Smith.4610:

You rang?

Knocked, actually. You guys never answer the doorbell.

But while you’re here, I do wish to ask a question of you: Will there be a lower priced version of the expansion for those that already have GW2?

I realize that the answer may well be “It’s still under discussion” or “Not for preorder”. And I’m okay with that. I just want to know if the three preorder versions are the final, set in stone choices and the only choices we’ll have.

(includes**)

HoT is 50$, you are getting the base game for free based on that wording.

Bet you will when it goes on sale for $15-20. If anet wants to be lame I hope the majority will hold out with us.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

wow… just wow…

MANY people here are upset over the announcement your company gave and you use the time to make jokes. nice.

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

I feel that 35-40 USD would be a better option, the base game included is a bit of a slap to the face

CrimsonDX.4821:

$50 is a perfectly reasonable price given what we have already received (massive amounts of free content) and what we will be receiving (massive amounts of more free content going forward)

So is fine to charge now for the free content? I am a WvW player, so you can guess how many content I get for free in the last 2 years.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

This reply from a representative of Anet is APPALLING.

It is not free content if you have to pay for access.

I really believe in all my heart that it’s a bug I think they want to target new people right now, not the core gamers. Maybe we’ll get our pre-purchase in the course of this week or something?

can we have xpac only edition ? we already have the core game.. what would the existing players do with the core game that come free with it ? we wouldn’t be able to separate it anyway….

Kelnis.1829:

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

It’s okay to expect people to pay for the expansion. It’s not okay to expect them to pay for the core game again.

Does that make me a bad man for buying 4 WoW expansions at $60 each AND paying 15$ per month for around 4-5 years just to play a game?

I would buy it for that price but 50 bucks for an x-pac… I can get a brand new game… HOT isn’t adding that much content… I will def not get it!

Just sucks… I returned because the x-pac lol, now I will be gone again…

HatSimulator.9362:

I like how anet isnt responding to ANY of the community outrage here, and on reddit, and in game. No one is happy right now. I don’t know, I’ve sunk so much into this game but this is insane.

It hasn’t even been an hour.

PR systems take time, because you have to go to the people who write what you can and can’t say to the public, ask the company heads if it’s alright to do this, and then actually write up the response. I’d give it a few hours, at very most a day given the time of night in Seattle. then if there’s still no response, they’ve had ample time to say something.

JakeG.9620:

I really believe in all my heart that it’s a bug I think they want to target new people right now, not the core gamers. Maybe we’ll get our pre-purchase in the course of this week or something?

If it were really a bug, I think we’d have already seen the famous yellow “There will be a new build available in 10 minutes.” Because this is all people seem to be talking about in game.

Kelnis.1829:

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

we are not paying for the expansion we are paying for a game we already own. and are in the right to be angry! not everyone can afford to shell out $50-$100 on a whim.

Well I’ll just respectfully disagree