Guild Wars 2

No, if you buy HoT you get a free copy of the main game if you don’t already have it. There is no need for a xpac only version. We get so much free content that paying full price for an xpac is nothing.

MokahTGS.7850:

Well I’ll just respectfully disagree

Seconded.

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I agree that $50 dollars for the expansion is ridiculous for those of us who already own the game. $75 if you want any extras at all is just plain stupid. I have a household that all plays Gw2, and it gets expensive very quickly. Looks like I’ll be sticking to other online games. :/

But if you’re buying the core game + expansion you’re basically buying a new account. What would happen with the old account then?

I think the biggest point of contention for people I’ve been talking to is that the standard edition doesn’t come with a character slot. Consider the pricing in Guild Wars 1, and yes, I am aware it is a different game from another era. What you got for $50 was the expansion and two additional character slots. Makes sense, all of them but eye of the north came with two more classes. Why not throw a character slot into the standard edition? That would make a lot of people happier.

$50? Fine. I get it. Company needs to make money and as stated above, we get content regularly for free. Free. Let that settle in guys. Don’t be entitled, don’t be jerks. They need to make money at the end of the day to pay their people and to keep the servers running.

You may want to just tell people that you’re throwing in the base game for “free” to anyone who doesn’t have it just because people aren’t going to accept the line “includes the base game.” Just figured I’d put that out there so people stop being in such an uproar.

sorry but this is to expensive for me

And i know all of my friends wont come back at this price (they were waiting for the expansion, but noone is gonna pay so much for it).

Leaa.2943:

It is amazing how many people seem to feel they have rights to decide what should and should not be included and how much it should cost. The truth here is, you have nothing to say about this what so ever, and if you feel it is to much then don’t buy the game. …….

of course we have something to say about it and we should, we are not sheep, well most of us and what you suggest is what i intend to do, vote with my wallet.
And before you say it, i know Anet (or anybody else for that matter) will not miss me, i assure you it goes both ways.

Isn’t $40-$50 the standard price for an MMO xpac? I’m kinda confused since I paid $60 for WoW expacs and the upcoming FFXIV xpac is $40 (not counting the monthly fees).

Can anybody point me to a $20 expac? I can’t seem to find one.

MMOs commonly include the base game with their Xpacs to get new customers. I’m not sure why there’s so much whining about this — we’ve enjoyed the base game with tons of free content for years.

Remember when new players got free skins etc with new copies and old players didn’t?

Yeah, they have to attract new players.

JakeG.9620:

But if you’re buying the core game + expansion you’re basically buying a new account. What would happen with the old account then?

If you’re a new player, you pay at least $50 for both the core game and the expansion.

If you already have the core game, you’re paying at least $50 for just the expansion.

No no no no no no and no.

3 years of lies, 3 years of neglect, 3 years of being ignored, 3 years of infractions and silence.
Sorry but as a WvW player I feel even more ripped off here!

they are bundling something that would not have been sold other wise, and then mark up the price… zzzz

I agree, is a fair price for hours/price they are giving to us

CrimsonDX.4821:

$50 is a perfectly reasonable price given what we have already received (massive amounts of free content) and what we will be receiving (massive amounts of more free content going forward)

That free content is one of the main reasons Guild Wars 2 is different from other games. You’re saying that should suddenly change now?

50 bucks for an expansion that also includes the core game makes no sense for the community who already has the game itself. At least give us something that would benefit us as a community. I for one say that give us gems for the price we purchased the core game with. At least that benefits us when others are getting the core game for just buying the expansion.

The pricing is ridiculous. Nothing I’ve seen in this game justifies paying $50 for an expansion with a few new maps and no expansion slots, especially when I already have the base game.

They could have included at least 1 slot character on the 50$ one…

How is it a bonus? It isn’t like we suddenly have an extra copy of the game lying around. It isn’t going to be GW2 and HoT, as seperate entities.

Unless you mean we should take the copy we already paid for, and hand that and the serial number over? Which is technically true, but not a particularly elegant solution.

And, really, it isn’t the $50 that has most people upset. It’s the $50 for absolutely nothing besides access to the expanded content. Previous GW expansions at the very least included an expansion slot for new character classes at the base purchace price. With this, we’re being told just access is $50, another character slot will take an additional $25 to get (with fluff).

One could cynically assume that they are banking on people being cranky about that, and buying gems to get a character slot, instead.

Smoky Diamond.7468:

I agree that $50 dollars for the expansion is ridiculous for those of us who already own the game. $75 if you want any extras at all is just plain stupid. I have a household that all plays Gw2, and it gets expensive very quickly. Looks like I’ll be sticking to other online games. :/

Sounds like a plan. Tera → until WS → until Black Desert, sounds about right.

1- Well, that’s subjective. If you don’t feel like it’s worth $50, hold out till they have their sale a year from now and snag it.

2- Base game is included for free with purchase. Price would have been the same without it.

Speaking for myself, the price really doesn’t bother me. GW2 is my relaxing fun time after work so that already justifies me getting it

How to make it more fair:
Reduce price of core game to $20. Lower price of Expansion to $40. Offer a deal to buy both for $50. Ta da!

Khristophoros.7194:

latinkuro.7304:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

this is the kind of people that really makes me angry, blizzard has been robbing people for years…..

yet, you don’t wanna pay for a game that is b2p with NO sub !!!

Man, I hope the door hits you on your way out, really hard.

I’m just letting them know what I feel is reasonable as a customer. It’s called having a spine.

I’m so glad people like you exist, Khristophoros.7194. I will never understand fanboys. I hate myself for ever buying this game. We’ve been duped.

Kelnis.1829:

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

Some of us aren’t interested in buying a boatload of gems, and we’re not interested in some exclusive collectables or a physical box with a figurine or whatever. Like I truly get that you value and enjoy those types of things, but not all of us do.

There is not a reasonable option for those of us who only want to add the expansion to our existing accounts. That is valid feedback.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

Thanks for a second slap in the face. Your loyal players are clearly already upset so the support is resorting to giving sarcastic comments instead of dealing with the issue at hand? That’s what my money is going towards?

I think there should be another option of payment added to people who already have a core game. It’s unfair to the loyal customers who have been here since the first preorder. I have 2 seperate accounts and I refuse to buy 2 more core games on top of the ones I own already.

JakeG.9620:

I really believe in all my heart that it’s a bug I think they want to target new people right now, not the core gamers. Maybe we’ll get our pre-purchase in the course of this week or something?

its not a bug ingame you get the same price and on the tooltip in the shop it says the standard version can be used to create a new account OR UPGRADE so its a kittenty move from anet side and i do hope they rethink it like 35 € for a upgrade standard version or make an upgrade pack that has the same price but gives us a character slot

Don’t buy it then guys. Nobody’s twisting your arm. If it doesn’t sell, you’ll see sales and get it cheaper down the line.

You don’t buy a sandwich and say “The cheese was 6$, but the rest of the sandwich was free”.

Perfect example of ArenaNet’s dishonesty.

So, ArenaNet expects people to:

• Pay FULL price right now (it’s not even a pre-order, they’re calling it a pre-purchase)

• For a product we have NO IDEA when we will receive, since they have not given us even a release window, much less a release date

• Asking an ABSURD price for what is basically Living World Season 3 plus a few new skills.

• No new character slot, despite how the expansion comes with a new profession thus of course a lot of players will want to make a new character.

• AND, new players get the full game plus the expansion, while veterans, those who actually funded the expansion, get to pay the same price for less than half the same content.

This is pathetic. I knew ArenaNet was hurting for money, but this is way too much.

People, if you want a honest deal, go here:

http://store.steampowered.com

With the Summer Sale that is happening right now, you’ll find lots of games to keep you busy until this so-called expansion gets slashed to a decent price.

And to those of you who are buying HoT right now, all I have to say is: “a fool and his money…”

Kelnis.1829:

Hey, John Smith, bought the $99.99 version. The value isn’t what I’d call “ideal,” but I am one of the players that was looking to buy a physical collector’s edition ($150-200.) Overall, disappointed with the versions offered, but I was going to buy gems tonight anyway – ended up working out I guess. Also, HOW DARE YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR EXPANSION.

Sorry your official forums are full of vitriol instead of more constructive feedback.

Im sorry, in this situation you are the 1% and every single other person is the 99%. your voice doesnt mean more than every one elses just because you had 100 dollars to blow on gems

Maybe 50$ and a new slot could be nice for ppl that already have the core game

So, just bought the game a couple of weeks ago and was hyped for the expansion (since i thought it was free and I would’ve gotten it with the game anyway)

Well I was wrong about that.

So i’m on the verge of just dropping the game now, since it really makes no sense that they made me pay full price to buy the heroic edition (which was the cheapest they offered) and then trying to make me re-buy it and add an extra $10 for the STANDARD edition of the expansion.

And I finally just hit 80 and was having a lot of fun with the game too…
All I want is that if I have to get the expansion, I want to buy the expansion, not the game.

Also I find it very scammy that you allowed players to buy the game so close to the release of the expansion without letting them get the version with the expansion in the first place.

I just hope that something can be done about this, I want to play the game :/

alright.. boycott !

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

azizul.8469:

can we have xpac only edition ? we already have the core game.. what would the existing players do with the core game that come free with it ? we wouldn’t be able to separate it anyway….

Sure, one day. Until then you won’t get to be in any of the beta stuff and Anet doesn’t care that this might actually drive players away.

http://buy.guildwars2.com/store/gw2/en_US/html/pbPage.heartofthorns?cid=90:5::::Global:40:::

“A game serial code for account creation or upgrade for the Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns expansion and the award-winning Guild Wars 2 core game.”

It is also an upgrade. Think of the core game as a free bonus if you dont already have it.

You can still ask for a refund via a support ticket.

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

Most of the long time players pay minimum $60 when the game came out. Now Anet wants us to pay $50 for the xpac (which includes the base game). Basically making long time players pay $110 for the SAME content as NEW players who pay just $50.

Kenjiro.2671:

Also I find it very scammy that you allowed players to buy the game so close to the release of the expansion without letting them get the version with the expansion in the first place.

I agree, that was a very interesting choice on their part. You know, the choice to give us the middle finger.

They’ve been pricing the core game at $10 many times the past year, they’re just valuing it at $0 for this instance.

PITCHFORKS!

No new character slot is the ONLY thing we can see being a problem here, everything else is just extreme crying – the price is where they feel the work is worth – if you don’t you’re not required to pay since you’ll be able to compete just fine with the base game.

Haven’t been on in a while. I come back and see were able to pre- purchase HOT: Good! But 50 dollars for a Expansion for something a lot of us already own: NOT Good!

There better be more than a few maps skills and armor if you’re gonna get people to buy into this. Because you took big leap backwards with this one. Why do we need to pay the game again. If its tailoring towards the new people that will get into the game fine. But like me and others, we’ve been around since day 1 (3yrs)! This doesn’t do anything for us.

I get it… You’re trying to get your community to leave aren’t ya well you’re doing a fantastic job at that if you’re fishing for a compliment on this.

Seriously, I’d even pay 30 for this with just the expac. The core game is at least worth 20 dollars at this point, Anet really thinks the expac is actually the same amount of content as the base game?

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward is $40. Shut up.

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

I beg to differ.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/359480/

You guys realize that $20 is roughly the cost of any living story. IE one or partial sections of one kittenty map and maybe 3 missions right?

All of you people expecting this for $20 are just not thinking, at all. It’s pretty funny.

I agree the standard should have a character slot. I also expected it to cost $50 and you should have expected it too.

Given that Anet has sold GW for what, $5? in the past, I seriously hope that they drop the price to $44.99 and let the people cry about it.

TrunkMonkey.7589:

Most of the long time players pay minimum $60 when the game came out. Now Anet wants us to pay $50 for the xpac (which includes the base game). Basically making long time players pay $110 for the SAME content as NEW players who pay just $50.

You seem to be a generous fellow. Instead of looking at it as you’re being shafted, maybe look at it as being easier to get new people into the game. New blood is good, yes?

Same, I’m not buying it for $50.
Drop the core game from those bundles and drop the prices as well, then I will probably buy it (unless you keep it at $40-50).

Hahah.. plus with the recent ascended gear changes you guys made (5% – > 10% stat difference), I’m even more turned off supporting this game.

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

This is not a new mmo tho its a dlc for an existing one!

TrunkMonkey.7589:

Most of the long time players pay minimum $60 when the game came out. Now Anet wants us to pay $50 for the xpac (which includes the base game). Basically making long time players pay $110 for the SAME content as NEW players who pay just $50.

Here’s the fanboy response to you: “But hurr durr, this is a free-to-play MMO. Hurr durr, you already got so much free content over the years, hurr durr. Just because you spent money on increased inventory and bank space and skins and finishers and stuff, hurr durr, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to complain about normal xpack pricing, hurr durr.”

For the record, I’m on your side.

Ephemiel.5694:

The Rice Hat Samurai.5348:

waSte.8640:

Khristophoros.7194:

I am willing to pay $19.99 for an account upgrade that has the HoT content and includes a character slot. I am not interested in your products if you’re trying to scam me.

My thoughts exactly. Not buying at that pricepoint especially kitten off no character slot. LOL!

How is it a scam? Have you ever bought an expansion for an MMO before? News flash, they’re all $50+.

Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward is $40. Shut up.

Whoa! A whole $10 difference! What a game breaker!

Hell, even GW2’s monthly fee is higher.