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Posted by: Arkard.3970

Arkard.3970

Are you fricking kidding me? Not only is it based on wins, it’s BOTH solo and team? That’s beyond silly.

Yes, we know you have an unhealthy obsession with attempting to resuscitate your attempt at an “e-sport.” If anything, the achievements should be similar in nature to the regular spvp ones, but just in arena instead of hot join.

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Posted by: SnowHawk.3615

SnowHawk.3615

wait… what?!

Are you serious?? How stupid.
So I guess ill be browsing forums in hopes of a team that is located within my tiny server of DR that will accept me just so I can get pvp daily.

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Posted by: PainShot.7154

PainShot.7154

Yes, we know you have an unhealthy obsession with attempting to resuscitate your attempt at an “e-sport.”

i LOL so kitten that, and not because its funny…

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Posted by: Q ho.3514

Q ho.3514

Yes pls force us to do even more stuff if we don’t want to lose any more AP coz of studid daily system , and what even worse add dailes that we can fail coz of other ppl in our team and not our performance

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

You may want to take a read through the thread in my signature

may I ask, what are the new dailies? X number of wins in each arena? How many wins, and is there anything else?

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

The worst possible scenario. Daily five solo queue wins and three team queue wins. 8 wins total. Considering queue and prep times, the nature of matches and the fact that winning team arenas is painful if you dont have a squad playing on the accord every single day, I roughly estimate that doing those wins can take even 3-4 hours of time if you have bad luck with team rolls.

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

Wait wait wait, are you serious that it is 5solo and 3team wins?

Didn’t they try the wins in team arenas before and it did not go over very well?

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Posted by: ahuba.6430

ahuba.6430

You still got the old dailies, why are you freaking out?

I’m sorry this is ridiculous. The nerve of you ap farmers to think that you SHOULD be able to get ALL possible daily APs, and that anet should cater to your farming needs, instead of also giving pvp players means to get aps (tell me how much aps are there to get in pve vs in pvp?). I know pvp players are a minority, but there are people that don’t touch pve at all and that deserve the achievement points chests too.

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

Wait wait wait, are you serious that it is 5solo and 3team wins?

Didn’t they try the wins in team arenas before and it did not go over very well?

I am dead serious. Separate achievements for solo and team arena.

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

You still got the old dailies, why are you freaking out?

Thread in my signature will explain why

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

Wait wait wait, are you serious that it is 5solo and 3team wins?

Didn’t they try the wins in team arenas before and it did not go over very well?

I am dead serious. Separate achievements for solo and team arena.

They said there would be 4 additional AP given out. Are these each worth 2 AP or are there other achievements to go with them?

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

Wait wait wait, are you serious that it is 5solo and 3team wins?

Didn’t they try the wins in team arenas before and it did not go over very well?

I am dead serious. Separate achievements for solo and team arena.

They said there would be 4 additional AP given out. Are these each worth 2 AP or are there other achievements to go with them?

Win 3 solo. Get 1 point. Another achievement unlocks to win 2 more solo. Get another point.
Win 2 team. Get 1 point. Another achievement unlocks to win 1 more team. Get another point.

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Posted by: Adminir.8140

Adminir.8140

This is beyond ridiculous. I am utterly speechless. My complete excitement for everything this patch has to offer went out the window the moment I opened my achievements tab.

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

This is beyond ridiculous. I am utterly speechless. My complete excitement for everything this patch has to offer went out the window the moment I opened my achievements tab.

For me its kind of official. After spending over 1 year playing GW2 and collecting AP as this is my playstyle in any game I play (to the kitten with the leaderboards). If this change is not going to be retracted in some way until next patch, I am leaving GW2 for good and going to pick some other MMO for regular play (deciding which might be a hard part). I will not spend 6 hours every day just doing dailies here. Not a chance. Or I will end up insane. This will need a radical detox treatment to work. Uninstall and never look back. I did it once with Star Wars Galaxies to which I became addicted too much (was playing like 8h per day at some point). Was hard for few weeks but it worked out. Yes, I know you dont care. And I dont care that you dont care. At least one slot on leaderboards will open up for people who care about it. So at least someone will end up happy, right? Right?

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

Careful Awe, people are not going to understand our type of play style. Unfortunately it has become clear that Anet is included with them.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

This is truly silly. I think Anet wants to burn achievement hunters out? 1 daily team arena win would be bad enough.
I thought anet learned from the past debacle with the 3 tpvp wins per day.

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Posted by: Luthan.5236

Luthan.5236

And how are the rewards? Should be 10 times worth the usual rewars. Otherwise I’ll ignore it and just do PvE dailies for laurel(and other more important stuff coming with the reward).

Mainly doing PvP dailies for laurel in case I should not have time to do the PvE dailies and go to each maps(sometimes need to do on more than 1 map and running around).

Seems really like they would need to hotfix it fast if it really is 5 wins solo q 3 wins team q.

1 win from one of those of those should be enough. I mean we already have monthly: 20 wins. And that would mean 4 days = monthly.

And nobody should be forced to to team q.

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

Careful Awe, people are not going to understand our type of play style. Unfortunately it has become clear that Anet is included with them.

I know Ewon. I think it has been discussed with depth in the last thread and several other before that. People who claim that we are minority are correct. But this does not change the fact that “completionism” is a playstyle that some of us like you and me follow. I will not allow some video game, even as good as GW2, to destroy my daily (pun not intended) life. Current daily system (before this patch) was already close to limit I could tolerate. New change pushes it far beyond this treshold.

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Posted by: RoRo.8270

RoRo.8270

The answer to this is simple stop doing dailies nobody cares about achievement leaderboard. Stop making petty threats that you are quitting you are obviously masochists which is the reason you spend your free time on things you don’t enjoy.

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Posted by: Ewon.5903

Ewon.5903

Careful Awe, people are not going to understand our type of play style. Unfortunately it has become clear that Anet is included with them.

I know Ewon. I think it has been discussed with depth in the last thread and several other before that. People who claim that we are minority are correct. But this does not change the fact that “completionism” is a playstyle that some of us like you and me follow. I will not allow some video game, even as good as GW2, to destroy my daily (pun not intended) life. Current daily system (before this patch) was already close to limit I could tolerate. New change pushes it far beyond this treshold.

100% agree. It looks like I will have to put some thought into making a hard decision based on this. It’s not only this update, but now clearly knowing that ANet doesn’t give a kitten about us.

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Posted by: Luthan.5236

Luthan.5236

Yes, I know you dont care. And I dont care that you dont care. At least one slot on leaderboards will open up for people who care about it. So at least someone will end up happy, right? Right?

You are right. Nobody cares if someone at the bottom of leaderboards who does not even know about PvP and only plays to get AP leaves the game.

Yes pls force us to do even more stuff if we don’t want to lose any more AP coz of studid daily system , and what even worse add dailes that we can fail coz of other ppl in our team and not our performance

You don’t lose AP. You just decide not to get a few 1 AP daily achievements because you don’t want to do them. If you really are one of these people that do all the achievements only to get that 1 AP… then I think you need help.

There is tons of more stuff like living story where you constantly can get some easy 50-100 AP with each release.

Dailies you do because you like to play the game and maybe for the nice little reward chest. Not for 1 AP… lol

You still got the old dailies, why are you freaking out?

I’m sorry this is ridiculous. The nerve of you ap farmers to think that you SHOULD be able to get ALL possible daily APs, and that anet should cater to your farming needs, instead of also giving pvp players means to get aps (tell me how much aps are there to get in pve vs in pvp?). I know pvp players are a minority, but there are people that don’t touch pve at all and that deserve the achievement points chests too.

Yeah that’s fun. For me it would really have a bad impact on quality of life if I myself had to get all AP and play everyday only to get every single 1 AP from each daily. I think there are also other fun games and stuff you can do in GW2 besides the AP and a lot of ways to still earn enough AP so you don’t need to get all of them.

The need to get all of them… it really seems like a compulsive disorder. I think people would have more fun with the game and with their life if they somehow managed to take it less seriously and play it only for fun and not forcing themselves to get every single AP while missing some other stuff they could have done in that time(which is more fun).

Glad I stopped that early. To be honest: At the beginning I thought I also wanted to get all the stuff. But with the first minis and expensive stuff which was limited in store(I don’t want to farm hours for gold or pay tons of real money) I learned it fast and was able to get away from the “I need everything”. Since then much more fun and less trouble on my mind.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

The 4 AP easily add up. 1460 points per year! Thats nothing to sneeze at. I think the top 100 should work/stick together and boycot the new achieves.

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Posted by: Serendipity.8326

Serendipity.8326

This is ridiculous. Even people who pretty much play pvp only and have a couple of hours to spend on it each day might struggle to complete them. And why don’t we increase the monthly to 200 wins while we’re at it?

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Posted by: Flytrap.8075

Flytrap.8075

Yes, I know you dont care. And I dont care that you dont care. At least one slot on leaderboards will open up for people who care about it. So at least someone will end up happy, right? Right?

You are right. Nobody cares if someone at the bottom of leaderboards who does not even know about PvP and only plays to get AP leaves the game.

Yes pls force us to do even more stuff if we don’t want to lose any more AP coz of studid daily system , and what even worse add dailes that we can fail coz of other ppl in our team and not our performance

You don’t lose AP. You just decide not to get a few 1 AP daily achievements because you don’t want to do them. If you really are one of these people that do all the achievements only to get that 1 AP… then I think you need help.

There is tons of more stuff like living story where you constantly can get some easy 50-100 AP with each release.

Dailies you do because you like to play the game and maybe for the nice little reward chest. Not for 1 AP… lol

You still got the old dailies, why are you freaking out?

I’m sorry this is ridiculous. The nerve of you ap farmers to think that you SHOULD be able to get ALL possible daily APs, and that anet should cater to your farming needs, instead of also giving pvp players means to get aps (tell me how much aps are there to get in pve vs in pvp?). I know pvp players are a minority, but there are people that don’t touch pve at all and that deserve the achievement points chests too.

Yeah that’s fun. For me it would really have a bad impact on quality of life if I myself had to get all AP and play everyday only to get every single 1 AP from each daily. I think there are also other fun games and stuff you can do in GW2 besides the AP and a lot of ways to still earn enough AP so you don’t need to get all of them.

The need to get all of them… it really seems like a compulsive disorder. I think people would have more fun with the game and with their life if they somehow managed to take it less seriously and play it only for fun and not forcing themselves to get every single AP while missing some other stuff they could have done in that time(which is more fun).

Glad I stopped that early. To be honest: At the beginning I thought I also wanted to get all the stuff. But with the first minis and expensive stuff which was limited in store(I don’t want to farm hours for gold or pay tons of real money) I learned it fast and was able to get away from the “I need everything”. Since then much more fun and less trouble on my mind.

Basically exactly what this guy said.

These daily “collectors” are going to have a heart attack when ANet releases versions that are specifically tuned towards dungeons and WvW.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

i dont wanna play kitten team arena – im solo player

we know in your NA the teams dieing and whine about – but seriously – i dont care

dont force us to go team arena – we dont like team arena

make it 5 wins soloQ OR 3 wins teamQ

but not both – so its just silly

you start this bull with 3x ranking bonus soloQ and 5x teamQ and now this

stop forcing us to go team arena – team arena is biggest bullcrap in this game

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

Its not about getting APs in other ways. You simply cant ignore 4 dailies if you want to compete on the leaderboard.

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Posted by: Arkard.3970

Arkard.3970

Does anyone remember when they had the win a tourney match achievement as part of the SPvP daily? It was only for a short time and was quickly removed because it was ridiculous. I had fears this would occur today, but thought the better of it because I assumed the dev team learned their lesson.

Instead they have exceeded my expectations at how royally they could bungle this. 8 wins. I’d say that’s 8 times harder, but that’s wrong – it’s even HARDER since you have to do both solo and team wins.

Was it really so hard to do a copy and paste of the regular spvp achievements but for arena? Those are fair. Or heck, even change wins to games played? So many options make sense, but this isn’t one of them.

You can argue about AP all day, but I don’t think anyone can dispute a design decision like this is poor when it turns people off from the content and the game in general.

Please address this ASAP.

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Posted by: Sudden.8729

Sudden.8729

Its not about getting APs in other ways. You simply cant ignore 4 dailies if you want to compete on the leaderboard.

So should PVE’ers complain about WvW achievements and PVP achievements they aren’t getting?

Seriously, all the QQ about AP leader board placement? Here is my two cents. If you want to be at the top of the leader board for GAME ACHIEVEMENTS then expect to have to play ALL avenues of the game. After all, they are called ACHIEVEMENT points.

For those saying “I am going to buy a new game because of this” then please do. You will be one less farmer I don’t have to worry about screwing up my game cause you don’t know what tranquility is… I would prefer to have more actual PVP’ers in my arena matches instead of AP farmers. That is the ONLY thing I don’t like about the daily, is it is going to encourage AP farming in areas that was intended for players that are experienced.

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Posted by: Xaphan.8745

Xaphan.8745

Please change this ASAP, that’s just too much for dailies achievements…

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

It’s almost like they are making some changes to PvP to make the experience worse, to try and drive people away from consistently playing.

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Posted by: Sudden.8729

Sudden.8729

It’s almost like they are making some changes to PvP to make the experience worse, to try and drive people away from consistently playing.

I don’t play PVP to get on an Achievement leader board, I play it because I like the game. I played it before any leader board was in GW2 and will play it if they said tomorrow they are getting rid of leader boards.

So no, it does nothing to push any player away who actually plays the game… to play a game.

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Posted by: nekretaal.6485

nekretaal.6485

SPvP players really want a bunch of pvE grinders uninterested in pvp to suddenly show up?

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Posted by: Rigel.5789

Rigel.5789

If you don’t care for the achievement points leaderboards, there is absolutely no reason for you to post in this thread. There are people out there who do, and I’d be very surprised if any of them would go out and support this. I am a dedicated sPvP player aswell as an achievement hunter. And for all it’s worth I wouldn’t mind more achievement points available in sPvP, but in permanent categories rather than dailies. tbh. By the time you get any of these “optional” dailies you will already have your daily complete anyway so the only reason I can see for it being added is to add more achievement points into the daily cycle. It makes no sense whatsoever to do so. It doesn’t add anything of value to the sPvP community and it just adds alot of frustration and annoyance to the achievement hunting community.

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Posted by: Adminir.8140

Adminir.8140

If you don’t care for the achievement points leaderboards, there is absolutely no reason for you to post in this thread. There are people out there who do, and I’d be very surprised if any of them would go out and support this. I am a dedicated sPvP player aswell as an achievement hunter. And for all it’s worth I wouldn’t mind more achievement points available in sPvP, but in permanent categories rather than dailies. tbh. By the time you get any of these “optional” dailies you will already have your daily complete anyway so the only reason I can see for it being added is to add more achievement points into the daily cycle. It makes no sense whatsoever to do so. It doesn’t add anything of value to the sPvP community and it just adds alot of frustration and annoyance to the achievement hunting community.

Exactly this. There is ZERO value added with this change, whichever side you are on. Dedicated sPvPer’s are going to see an influx of non PvP players who are attempting to get these new dailies. Dedicated AP hunters are now going to have to spend a ridiculous amount of additional time in order to obtain these as well. I don’t see anyone winning in this scenario.

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Posted by: Sokos.4798

Sokos.4798

Well i can’t do them now even if I wanted cause i got dishonorable for the 1st time. So no 4 ap for me.

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

I would really appreciate if someone from Arena could drop a few words regarding this. If this design will stay in permanently? Are you happy with how it works? What was your design goal and/or intention? If you could confirm this now, it would save me a month or so of playing something that I am bound to quit anyway. Becouse if nothing will be said about it until next release I will just assume its going to stay like this and I will quit anyway. For sure I am not going to buy any gems until I know how this will end up so its not like there is something to gain for Arena.

Look, I know this is your game. You can do whatever you want with it. Its fine. I would just be really greateful if you could acknowledge something that breaks the game for me and few other completionists (as apparent from several threads about AP dailies overall). If you believe that your design is for the greater good and players like me are an acceptable collateral then fine. I will accept that and try to move on. I just really think that I deserve at least some form of answer after all the fanatic support I gave to Arena and GW over the years.

I would also appreciate if people could refrain from throwing aggresive remarks about how stupid/pathetic/whatever my playstyle is. There are many playstyles out there. And this one is mine. I dont judge others.

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Posted by: Rigel.5789

Rigel.5789

I would really appreciate if someone from Arena could drop a few words regarding this. If this design will stay in permanently? Are you happy with how it works? What was your design goal and/or intention? If you could confirm this now, it would save me a month or so of playing something that I am bound to quit anyway. Becouse if nothing will be said about it until next release I will just assume its going to stay like this and I will quit anyway. For sure I am not going to buy any gems until I know how this will end up so its not like there is something to gain for Arena.

Look, I know this is your game. You can do whatever you want with it. Its fine. I would just be really greateful if you could acknowledge something that breaks the game for me and few other completionists (as apparent from several threads about AP dailies overall). If you believe that your design is for the greater good and players like me are an acceptable collateral then fine. I will accept that and try to move on. I just really think that I deserve at least some form of answer after all the fanatic support I gave to Arena and GW over the years.

I would also appreciate if people could refrain from throwing aggresive remarks about how stupid/pathetic/whatever my playstyle is. There are many playstyles out there. And this one is mine. I dont judge others.

I’ve thought about quitting the game countless times before, but I always logged in to do the dailies and it kept me playing. This however is not something I’m gonna waste 5 hours of my day every day to do, any day now this adventure may be over.

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Posted by: Persie.4701

Persie.4701

change this senceless daily kitten… as soon as possible…

create weekly or so…

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Posted by: Oraith.1732

Oraith.1732

“Please adress this ASAP” “Need fix ASAP” “Plz anet make this easier ASAP”

Jesus Christ guys. People that do a mix of soloQ and teamQ are going to get slightly more daily AP than others. Why the hell is that a problem? Because you won’t be able to keep up? Sorry but if you aren’t able to adapt/do different content, why the hell do you call yourself an AP hunter? Just call yourself a AP farmer, because that’s all you are willing to do, farm. If they made more achieves obtainable in kitten y ezpz hotjoins you wouldn’t be complaining. Why? Because hotjoins are easy, where as teamQ/soloQ you have to try to actually win.

Guess what guys, it’s called soloQ for a reason, you can queue solo. Yes, you are going to lose some matches which may prolong the process, but hey what’s an achievement if you aren’t working for it? As for teamQ, it is almost as easy as getting a dungeon group together. Find four people to do it with and run the queues (you can even duo Q if you want). Again, if you and you partners aren’t that great it will take some work but if you really want the extra AP to compete then you will have to get better and learn the game-type.

Also do you really think Anet is that stupid that they think extra AP points are going to bring in esports? You think that Anet thinks the old teams are going to go “Hey guys look you can get extra AP by doing pvp dailies, lets go back to the game!”. No, they won’t, and arena net doesn’t believe that they will come back for that reason. I hope that the AP hunters that are willing to do more content will rise to the top due to the amount of QQ, because they deserve it.

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Posted by: Awe.1096

Awe.1096

I hope that the AP hunters that are willing to do more content will rise to the top due to the amount of QQ, because they deserve it.

Sure. If someone is willing to spend 6 hours each day just doing dailies he by all means deserves to be at the top. Sky is the limit. This is however not something I am willing to do. If this is what Arena intends than I will accept it with a heavy heart and just leave. I promise I wont post any “QQ” after I do so. I am just among those who are raising an issue and asking for acknowledgement (becouse so far Arena didnt took any firm stance in feedback response regarding this subject)

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Posted by: Rigel.5789

Rigel.5789

“Please adress this ASAP” “Need fix ASAP” “Plz anet make this easier ASAP”

Jesus Christ guys. People that do a mix of soloQ and teamQ are going to get slightly more daily AP than others. Why the hell is that a problem? Because you won’t be able to keep up? Sorry but if you aren’t able to adapt/do different content, why the hell do you call yourself an AP hunter? Just call yourself a AP farmer, because that’s all you are willing to do, farm. If they made more achieves obtainable in kitten y ezpz hotjoins you wouldn’t be complaining. Why? Because hotjoins are easy, where as teamQ/soloQ you have to try to actually win.

Guess what guys, it’s called soloQ for a reason, you can queue solo. Yes, you are going to lose some matches which may prolong the process, but hey what’s an achievement if you aren’t working for it? As for teamQ, it is almost as easy as getting a dungeon group together. Find four people to do it with and run the queues (you can even duo Q if you want). Again, if you and you partners aren’t that great it will take some work but if you really want the extra AP to compete then you will have to get better and learn the game-type.

Also do you really think Anet is that stupid that they think extra AP points are going to bring in esports? You think that Anet thinks the old teams are going to go “Hey guys look you can get extra AP by doing pvp dailies, lets go back to the game!”. No, they won’t, and arena net doesn’t believe that they will come back for that reason. I hope that the AP hunters that are willing to do more content will rise to the top due to the amount of QQ, because they deserve it.

If it was permanent achievements I would not mind. However now you will need to spend 5-6 hours of your day on repeating the same content every single day. Why would anyone want to tolerate this? We’re talking quality of life here. Sure make achievement points hard to obtain, but do permanently instead of forcing someone to do the same stuff every day.

Alot of people are completionists, this is what keeps them playing. When the point comes where they realise.. “You know what, why shuld I tolerate this anymore?” and stop, they will also quit the game. And as you cans ee from the topics arising lately this does look like it is a majority of the games completionists.

I do enough sPvP as it is. I enjoy it and I don’t mind doing it. But having to hop on and do 8 wins a day sounds completely absurd. Currently 13th in solo queue EU (although I must admit I don’t really value that at all) and at the same time an achievement hunter (fairly behind on permanent points cause I’m a procrastinator) but I have done most dailies and monthlies since launch.

It has nothing to do with adapting to different content. There are already numerous WvW, PvE and sPvP achievements that you will have to do if you want to get anywhere on the leaderboards, so your point there is completely flawed. If you aren’t a part of the completionist community I don’t really see why you decide to comment here because you obviously just come in here to say we are all wrong in how we play the game and that this is how completionists should play. There are plenty of other achievement systems out there that look much more appealing at this point and if Anet decides to give us the easy solution to drop out and find something else to do that is their loss. That is also why we try to give them a heads up that we as a community aren’t very satisfied with these changes and something has to happen before it is too late.

Look at our arguments, tell us why these achievements should be in the game. That is when I will listen to your comment. Because frankly, I don’t see any particular reason for any community in this game to have these achievements.

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Posted by: Sergoros.4398

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Guess anet hates achive hunters :’(

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Posted by: Cush.4063

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Wow, I feel really embarassed to be a gw2 player reading this thread. For one I don’t think it’s THAT big of a deal but the fact that everyone is rage quitting here is pathetic. Seriously, everyone is acting like a 12 year old and flaming and spamming their hate. All you really need to do is write a respectful comment with your criticism to put the point across. The way you all act is really childish.

“Anet, is there anyway that you could please reduce the amount of wins it costs for a daily as it seems it is a bit much and hard to achieve. Reasons being…..”

All you all had to say really. Tbh, it’s only a daily and I’m sure you can complete enough of these dailies in a month in order to get your monthly. Not to mention it seems as though Anet is trying to push getting together as a team which I think is a great idea although it might be a little rough. I think they could reduce the team wins down to 1 and give you the amount of points for 2 wins in that one win. Is it really that bad that you guys don’t want to play as a team? It’s a lot more fun playing in a team just to let you know. shakes head

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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Way to miss the point Cush.4063. Maybe you should have read the thread more carefully.

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Posted by: Rigel.5789

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Wow, I feel really embarassed to be a gw2 player reading this thread. For one I don’t think it’s THAT big of a deal but the fact that everyone is rage quitting here is pathetic. Seriously, everyone is acting like a 12 year old and flaming and spamming their hate. All you really need to do is write a respectful comment with your criticism to put the point across. The way you all act is really childish.

“Anet, is there anyway that you could please reduce the amount of wins it costs for a daily as it seems it is a bit much and hard to achieve. Reasons being…..”

All you all had to say really. Tbh, it’s only a daily and I’m sure you can complete enough of these dailies in a month in order to get your monthly. Not to mention it seems as though Anet is trying to push getting together as a team which I think is a great idea although it might be a little rough. I think they could reduce the team wins down to 1 and give you the amount of points for 2 wins in that one win. Is it really that bad that you guys don’t want to play as a team? It’s a lot more fun playing in a team just to let you know. shakes head

You do not seem to understand that this is the tip of the iceberg. There has been complaints about daily achievements by the achievement community for a very, very long time. They already tried this exact thing before and removed it. It did not work then and it will not work now. It has nothing to do with not wanting to have a team and play sPvP. It has something to do with having to spend 6 hours a day repeating the same tasks to be able to “complete” all dailies. With all the complications of having a team, does getting them together and playing for several wins every day without exceptions sound simple to you?

People get enjoyment out of games in different ways, if you go on about being embarassed about other people because they enjoy a game in a different manner then that is your problem. I don’t go about telling other communities how they should do their thing. This is a problem that only affects the achievement community, and after well over a year of being ignored this is the last straw that is pushing a lot of us across that line where we simply do not want to put up with the nonsense anymore.

Now the way you talk down on other players is what is truly pathetic. If the topic has no interest to you, you should move on. I don’t see you gaining anything from having these achievements in the game so I don’t see the reason why you should argue against those of us that have problems with it.

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Posted by: Sudden.8729

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Its 4 Ap??? Really, people…

Here is what it did do. It allowed people who actually play PVP strictly, rather than PVE, a chance to get FOUR more points a day. Is it big, no. That is what is ok for all you achievement farmers out their, it is not that big.

Let’s break this down for the QQ’ers. 8 Wins. More than likely you will NOT get eight wins in a row in a timely fashion. This type of progress would probably take a minimum of 3 hours, more than likely longer. Now for you AP Farmers out their, what could you do for three hours to supplement the FOUR points you would be missing. Maybe do what you appear to desire to do the most, go farm. Agent of Entropy is 2 AP every time you salvage 200 things. I bet in approximately 3 hours you can get 400 items to salvage. Bet you will make more money than the PVP’er too. The PVP player loses out on both time and probably money in this scenario. I hope they had more fun though

It’s four points. Its not the end of the world. Suck it up, don’t get your panties in a bunch over something PVP’ers can get over PVE’ers. PVE’ers still get the better end of the deal in regards to reward for time.

And for those that are a part of this “achievement community” , achievements in any game are a sub feature. The game itself is the feature. I don’t think I have ever heard any MMORPG fan say, “I can’t wait to play insert name here because the achievements are going to be amazing!” Don’t beat up Anet because you put a chore on yourself.

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Posted by: Arkard.3970

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Its 4 Ap??? Really, people…

Here is what it did do. It allowed people who actually play PVP strictly, rather than PVE, a chance to get FOUR more points a day. Is it big, no. That is what is ok for all you achievement farmers out their, it is not that big.

Let’s break this down for the QQ’ers. 8 Wins. More than likely you will NOT get eight wins in a row in a timely fashion. This type of progress would probably take a minimum of 3 hours, more than likely longer. Now for you AP Farmers out their, what could you do for three hours to supplement the FOUR points you would be missing. Maybe do what you appear to desire to do the most, go farm. Agent of Entropy is 2 AP every time you salvage 200 things. I bet in approximately 3 hours you can get 400 items to salvage. Bet you will make more money than the PVP’er too. The PVP player loses out on both time and probably money in this scenario. I hope they had more fun though

It’s four points. Its not the end of the world. Suck it up, don’t get your panties in a bunch over something PVP’ers can get over PVE’ers. PVE’ers still get the better end of the deal in regards to reward for time.

You realize Agent of Entropy is capped right? facepalm

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Posted by: Rigel.5789

Rigel.5789

Its 4 Ap??? Really, people…

Here is what it did do. It allowed people who actually play PVP strictly, rather than PVE, a chance to get FOUR more points a day. Is it big, no. That is what is ok for all you achievement farmers out their, it is not that big.

Let’s break this down for the QQ’ers. 8 Wins. More than likely you will NOT get eight wins in a row in a timely fashion. This type of progress would probably take a minimum of 3 hours, more than likely longer. Now for you AP Farmers out their, what could you do for three hours to supplement the FOUR points you would be missing. Maybe do what you appear to desire to do the most, go farm. Agent of Entropy is 2 AP every time you salvage 200 things. I bet in approximately 3 hours you can get 400 items to salvage. Bet you will make more money than the PVP’er too. The PVP player loses out on both time and probably money in this scenario. I hope they had more fun though

It’s four points. Its not the end of the world. Suck it up, don’t get your panties in a bunch over something PVP’ers can get over PVE’ers. PVE’ers still get the better end of the deal in regards to reward for time.

Agents of Enropy is capped at 250 points, Hobby Dungeon Explorer is capped at 200 points. Every permanent achievement is capped. Dailies however isn’t. 4 points adds up, if you ignore this for a year that is a whopping 1460 points. Assuming nobody does this except a guy ranked 600th on EU ladder, he could climb all the way to top 60 with these points. Also I am an sPvPer myself, I do PvP alot, but I do not see any realistic chance of me getting these PvP achievements because I rely on four other players to be online and available at the exact same times I am. It does not happen every day, and it does not guarantee me 8 wins in a day. And even if it did that means to theoretically max out the number of points you can get in this game you would have to spend approximately 6 hours every day of every week. 42 hours a week, on doing the same repetitive tasks. Now tell me that is fun. If you are a regular PvPer that doesn’t care about achievement points tell me why these 4 points would make a difference for you. In the bigger picture it really won’t make a difference, because you as most other players wouldn’t get these points consistantly every day unless you really set that as a goal and was ready to invest so many hours into the game. If that’s something you would like to do, then kudos to you. But many of us are not prepared to sacrifice that amount of time for something that is already taking up a big chunk of people’s days doing the same repetitive tasks.
You also do not seem to realise completionist doesn’t equal PvEer.

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Posted by: Sudden.8729

Sudden.8729

Is it, guess they need to fix the word “Infinite” then huh? facepalm

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

Plus 4 points a day sums up to 1460 points per year.

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